=== chris____ is now known as twpoint718 === twpoint718 is now known as twopoint718 [01:10] oh hello there. [01:10] Did Iseriously screw up the date? [01:10] yes [01:10] in the topic [01:11] I don't know why this is such a challenge [01:11] haha [01:13] Yeah... [01:13] what is wrong with me [01:14] calenderically challenged? === h00k changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-wi to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Wisconsin LoCo! | Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-wisconsin | Wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/WisconsinTeam | Forum: http://wisconsinloco.ubuntuforums.org/ | Mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wi | Meeting: Wednesday Nov 17 8:00pm Right Here! [01:14] I've never heard it be put that way, but apparently [01:14] ... it's a thing. [01:14] (I think I am too) [01:15] I'm not that terrible with dates or times normally, but I make myself look like a fool here. [01:15] haha [01:18] i'm terrible with it usually [01:20] and I just am with, you know, the *entire* state. [01:20] oh well. [01:55] Hey, 5 minutes. [01:56] i can hear the clock ticking [01:57] timtierney ran away. [01:58] can you blame him? there's a meeting coming! [01:58] yeah, they're pretty high-stress [02:00] exigraff, jrolland-ubuntu, jrolland-kubuntu, lostson, nickmoeck, ripps, sgtd, spikeb, twopoint718, uberushaximus: Anyone around for the meeting start? [02:00] braxtonschafer: you too! [02:01] I am! [02:01] Whooo! [02:01] woooooo [02:01] cool. [02:01] love these high-stress meetings [02:01] makes me feel /alive/ [02:01] Three! douglasswi said he might make it, might not [02:01] I'm here! First meeting, whoo! [02:02] yusss [02:02] braxtonschafer: welcome! [02:02] braxtonschafer: I hope you prepared your required 30 minute speech and demonstration [02:02] Oh no! *facepalm* I guess I'll have to improvise. [02:03] Cool, we'll officially start. braxtonschafer, since you're newer to the channel/meeting, tell us about yourself [02:03] for 30 minutes. [02:03] please. [02:04] we have nothing better. [02:04] * h00k coughs [02:04] Okay, well, I'm a high school student, and I've been an Ubuntu user since 6.10...and a Linux user my whole life. [02:04] awesome! [02:04] And trust me, you do NOT want me to talk for the whole half an hour! [02:04] braxtonschafer: where abouts in the state are you from? n/s/w/e? [02:04] sw. [02:04] Cool, welcome. [02:04] darn it, why is nobody up here by me? [02:05] spikeb: :( You next. [02:05] i already introduced myself last meeting. [02:05] spikeb: again, again! braxtonschafer doesn't know you [02:05] haha [02:05] hi! I'm spikeb, a linux user since 1997, been with ubuntu since the beginning. i live in the northwest, a bit south of SUperior [02:06] Hi spikeb! It's a pleasure! [02:06] hi braxtonschafer :) [02:06] exigraff: obligitory 45 minute explination of your nickname. [02:06] alternatively, introduce yourself :) [02:06] spikeb: also, welcome again [02:06] thanks h00k [02:08] exigraff comes from a combination of the Greek word for "six", and... yeah, I have no idea [02:08] <- a linux user since ~1998 (Red Hat 5.2 at the time) i live in Appleton, WI [02:08] sgtd: Hey there :) [02:08] ohai [02:08] sgtd, you started with RH too? cool. [02:08] * sgtd waves to braxtonschafer [02:08] sgtd: Next time I'm in Appleton for training, we'll have to meet up [02:08] h00k: sounds good. [02:09] my dad used to get training in appleton. popular place for it, seems. [02:09] is it 8pm yet ? [02:09] Yeah, we use MasterLink training [02:09] yes lostson [02:09] lostson, hey there. [02:09] ok [02:09] hey yall [02:09] we're doing intros [02:09] we're waiting for exigraff [02:09] * h00k pokes [02:10] ow. I'm exigraff, I've been toying with linux since... 2004ish, and Ubuntu since whenever h00k found it. I'm right in the middle of Superior, at the moment. [02:10] cool, somebody up by me! [02:10] it's the place to be [02:10] roaring metropolis [02:10] heh [02:11] I'm h00k (Anthony), I was in Superior, currently in Rhinelander, I've been using Linux since...yeah, about 2003/4, stuck with Ubuntu because I like the community. Organized a release party in Superior and one in Madison, like meeting people, often screw up dates/times in emails and channel /topics. [02:12] lostson: how about yourself? [02:12] also, timtierney, are you around? [02:12] i'm lostson linux user since RH 7.0 the haloween edition im in appleton area used every distro under the sun pretty much [02:13] Yeah. I'm Tim. Been using Linux for about five years now. I live doing college in Milwaukee. Lately I've been doing Open-Source web design for small businesses. [02:13] cool timtierney [02:13] * h00k drones, "Hi, Tim." [02:14] Here's my Ubuntu wiki [02:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimTierney [02:14] the there was palpable [02:14] aw. timtierney won, no one else had sources. [02:14] good call. Here's me: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyHook [02:14] timtierney++; [02:15] Did we miss anyone? [02:15] is it my turn again or are we still in the same meeting [02:15] if you have any alternate personalities, now is the time to introduce them. [02:15] spikeb: whacha got [02:15] nothing [02:15] just introducing myself :) [02:16] exigraff: how about telling us about your progress on the domain? [02:16] ah yeah [02:16] interesting wiki pages [02:16] so we have this site, http://ubuntu-wisconsin.org/ [02:16] lostson: I'm probably not too excited [02:16] s/excited/exciting [02:16] lostson: feel free to make your own, as well! [02:17] didnt know you could do that [02:17] well, if /h00k/ was permitted to do that, I'm pretty sure anyone can [02:17] lostson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/lostson If you'd like [02:17] yeah im sure just didnt know you could is all [02:17] ;) [02:17] I suppose I could put up a page too and then never edit it. [02:18] I tend to forget about mine from time-to-time... [02:18] i got enough just keeping up with me blog [02:18] * exigraff sells ad space in his to white-label hosting resellers [02:19] high-traffic as it is. [02:19] and speaking of blogs, ubuntu-wisconsin.org now has functional feed aggregation for our members [02:19] http://ubuntu-wisconsin.org/c/syndicated/ [02:19] all y'all are eligible to be featured here, provided you have some kind of valid feed in a format that you haven't invented [02:19] so we have to host the blog somewhere else [02:20] spikeb: an interesting idea. [02:20] er, a not-remotely-hosted blog [02:20] we could hook you up with an account on the site, sure, or you could create your own at wordpress.com, tumblr.com, or any number of other spots [02:20] whatever's easiest for /you/ [02:20] * exigraff bows obsequiously [02:21] i have had mine for years [02:21] ^ customer service at its finest! [02:21] lostson, are you interested in being aggregated on the site? [02:21] we pull in posts that are tagged "ubuntu" [02:21] braxtonschafer: do you have anything as far as this? [02:21] and possibly some other tags, I forget [02:21] possibly [02:22] there are some things that i write about that would probably not be well received [02:22] i blog on and off, but it might be time to start again soon. [02:22] exigraff has volunteered to be our resident web-dude, all is volunteer, and if anyone has ideas or wants to help, please feel free to speak up [02:22] lostson: well, only the ubuntu-related posts are aggregated, if that helps [02:22] i think i may start an ubuntu related blog, i'll get in touch via mailing list if i do [02:23] yeah that would help [02:23] braxtonschafer: there's never been a better time to sell your gold! [02:23] or start a blog [02:23] * h00k adjusts exigraff's spam filter [02:24] perfect! i'll put on my thinking cap and see if i can't come up with some useful content! [02:24] High Quality swiss watch's l0kalikes! [02:24] So, we have the blog aggregation going on, similar to planet.ubuntu.com, which aggregates feeds from Ubunutu Members [02:24] there's a live members list that's half-finished, pulling from the loco's launchpad account [02:25] reminder: if you haven't joined us on launchpad, do so! [02:25] location as seen in the /topic [02:25] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-wisconsin [02:26] So, what would you guys like to do? [02:26] ooo hey! i like the way that accidental misspelling rolls off the tongue! "Ubunutu" [02:26] More meetings? Local meetups, [02:26] oo-boo-new-too [02:26] oh hey, I didn't even notice. [02:27] http://ubunutu.com/ :) [02:27] some activity of any sort? [02:27] i'd like to talk on in here more. not personally, but to see the channel a bit more lively. [02:27] I'd agree [02:27] I like that. I'm not easily able to get anywhere for physical meetings, but I can certainly be on here. [02:27] I *personally* would like to see some more release parties or local activities around people's areas [02:28] braxtonschafer: there are a few of us who idle all of the time [02:28] i'd like to meet exigraff and ripps sometime. :) [02:28] braxtonschafer: he does mean allthetime, too [02:28] my local lug is doing a talk on MacOSX at tomorrows monthly meeting :/ [02:28] sgtd, ouch [02:28] heh [02:28] lug...OSX...it doesn't follow. [02:29] !lug [02:29] Lug's are Linux User Groups. You can find your local group here: http://www.linux.org/groups/ [02:29] maybe they're talking about how linux owns it? [02:29] or perhaps it's a cautionary topic [02:29] that'd be smart! [02:29] "So you know someone on OSX. Now what?" [02:29] if i had time i'd go to it. macosx from the perspective of linux'ers [02:29] sounds interesting, actually [02:29] It would be [02:30] shameless plug -> feel free to edit this wiki if it suits you: http://wisconsinlinux.org [02:30] what can I/we/anyone do to help get some more activities goin' on? [02:31] it's actually the fault of the map on their that i remembered to swing over to this channel tonight [02:31] I haven't a clue. I'll babble more in here to try and help. [02:31] sgtd: well, it helped, anyway. [02:31] most activites are held on saturdays and i work every saturday so im kinda out of that one [02:31] spikeb: the more babbling the better [02:31] I need to get a Google Calendar out for that [02:31] I read geek-orientated news sites every day, so I usually have /something/ to talk about. [02:32] Also, what do you guys think of more meetings? Or planning some Release Parties for Natty Narwhal? [02:32] spikeb: you know, like up there near Superior or something [02:32] I would love to attend a release gathering for Natty. [02:32] or a few in a bunch of places [02:32] and more meetings is fine with me, i have the time. [02:33] Madison, Rhinelander, LaCrosse, Appleton, Superior/Duluth [02:33] what times work well for people? [02:34] night time works better for me, but if given advance notice, can do daytime [02:34] Day is usually bad for me, and weekends [02:34] I have a feeling weekday evenings are going to make the most sense all around [02:34] 8pm works perfect here. [02:34] yeah, i think so too exigraff [02:35] * timtierney Heading home. Be back in a few minutes. [02:35] timtierney: drive/walk/ride safe. [02:35] * spikeb misses alt-f2 in unity [02:35] braxtonschafer: how about you? [02:35] spikeb: Unity is broken for me :( [02:35] spikeb: they didn't include that? :( [02:36] spikeb: natty/nvidia [02:36] not in the mutter version exigraff [02:36] h00k, ahh ok. im on maverick, using the release version of unity [02:36] which is pretty bad. [02:36] well, assuming I can get a way up to Madison, it doesn't matter too much. Probably a friday evening/saturday, provided I'm not working. [02:36] spikeb: yeah...I ran that for a bit, too [02:36] Unity is an excellent concept. I am hoping the compiz implementation will be good. [02:36] braxtonschafer: for online meetings, or for meetups/parties? [02:37] meetups/parties. online meetings work pretty much anytime. [02:37] Cool. [02:38] Well, there's Holidays and things coming up, how about one more meeting before Christmas time? [02:38] * spikeb is in [02:38] should we set a date, or should I just pick one out of a hat in a few weeks? [02:38] random hat picking [02:39] cool. [02:39] mailing list discussion is always welcome (usually it's me posting about something) on https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-us-wi, the channel is always up [02:40] in the meantime, if there's anything...pressing, ideas for anything related to the LoCo, please bring them up [02:41] we make this thing happen [02:41] * spikeb nods [02:41] *fistpump [02:41] [02:41] hehe [02:41] cool. Anyone have anything else to bring up? [02:43] we've determined there's work yet on the site, release parties would kick-pants, and we want to do more things [02:43] I can deal with that [02:43] haha sounds good [02:43] If anyone wants to start planning a release party in their area, I'm available if there are any questions [02:44] otherwise, feel free to take it and run! [02:44] regarding the site - a good way to get activity flowing within the loco is honestly just to generate content. if you just found a new tool that you didn't know about, or have something to get off your chest about Unity, blog about it! [02:44] yes, i think i will start doing that exigraff [02:44] Or how much you hope Unity is going to rock (me) [02:44] h00k did a writeup on mtr a few weeks ago, and got some pretty decent reactions from teh internet at large [02:45] * spikeb is pro-Unity [02:45] Everyone saw it. [02:45] *everyone* [02:45] h00k: reminds me, my grandma used mtr to sort out a problem with her vpn adapter [02:45] h00k: kudos [02:46] exigraff: serious? [02:46] h00k: :p [02:46] but in all serious, write stuff. it gets noticed, and helps out the loco as a whole. [02:46] *seriousness [02:46] my mom could probably use mtr heh [02:46] I got 483 pageviews [02:47] http://anthonyrhook.com/blog/2010/10/12/mtr-linux-network-diagnostic-tool/ [02:47] for reference. [02:47] h00k just wants to jack up that pageview count [02:47] ill be posting a blog about unity later this week [02:47] Yes, by like 4 people! [02:47] lostson: awesome [02:47] lostson: cool. [02:47] gonna rip it a new arse me thinks [02:48] h00k: firing up the LOIC as we speak [02:48] lostson: heh [02:48] although it's pretty early and rough, there are some cool plans for it anyway [02:48] (unity) [02:48] * spikeb is a big fan of the /concept/ of unity....implementation sucks thus far [02:49] its a interesting looking idea but its gonna have to make some great strides to be out a standard gnome desktop and it sure isnt there yet [02:49] even the implementation is a million miles ahead of the main alternative (gnome-shell) [02:49] personally if im gonna use a shell or something to that effect xmonad or awesome would appeal to me a bit more [02:50] unity sure looks interesting! but...(don't shoot me!) i'm kinda a KDE user. [02:50] braxtonschafer, hehe [02:50] we had a guy using xmonad at the release party in Superior, I had never seen it before [02:50] It was really interesting [02:50] its alot like a tiling window manager unity and shell just with more polish [02:50] h00k, i bet [02:50] xmonad is excellent [02:50] * exigraff grabs tar/feathers, backtraces braxtonschafer's ip [02:50] timtierney: welcome home. [02:50] i am terribly excited about the future of unity though. it is going to rock. [02:50] i used to use ion3 all the time then the developer went bonkers and killed the project [02:51] I sure hope so [02:51] so to xmonad i went [02:51] that and i like haskell [02:51] I've ever used that [02:52] xmonad haskell some good terminal apps and qt only apps and a blazing fast desktop can be had [02:52] * spikeb is a usability geek btw, so if anyone has any info on that particular subject or any need for such a thing, ping him [02:52] noted, thanks [02:52] reminds me, I have a little DockStar [02:52] totally related [02:52] heh [02:52] http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeAgent-DockStar-Network-STDSA10G-RK/dp/B002MRRU6G [02:52] One of these guys [02:52] cool [02:53] i got a sheevaplug [02:53] I installed Debian on it (Debian has an arm port) [02:53] yes, i run debian on my sheeva [02:53] :) [02:53] and it is now a server sitting behind the couch [02:53] It's really fricking cool [02:53] literally. [02:53] h00k was geeking out pretty hard... [02:53] i wish ubuntu still supported ARMv5 [02:53] My Dad just talked to his Betta fish and called it a "piggy" [02:54] spikeb: me too [02:54] but, there's always debian! [02:54] h00k was geeking out pretty hard... [02:54] I have a 1tb drive plugged into it that it's booting from, that's my server/storage, and I have to get mpd to work and it'll be my little music-streaming-server [02:54] er [02:54] debian runs on everything even the kitchen sink [02:54] and, to a lesser extent, Android [02:55] cool h00k, i am going to something similar with my plug [02:55] spikeb: Cool :D [02:56] anyone do any gaming ? [02:56] * spikeb is a former gamer, still very interested in it [02:56] lostson: I'm on xbox live occasionally, not a whole lot of desktop gaming [02:56] like alien arena open arena nexuiz et ut99 [02:56] I do, I got the Indie Bundle a few months back [02:56] Lugaru! [02:56] i quit proprietary games for ethical reasons, heh. [02:57] oh, c'mon, buying Portal is totally ethical. :) [02:57] (for the record, I guess the rest of this stuff is not-meeting-related, but feel-free to continue conversation) [02:57] i will never give up ut99 and both rtcw and ET have just been opened completely up so i have some plans [02:57] braxtonschafer: I have to ask, how'd you fin dus? [02:58] im prting the ut99 loki installer to gtk2 currently [02:58] I've fone a fair-share of Alien Arena [02:58] *done [02:58] braxtonschafer: *find us, rather. [02:58] alot of the old loki installers need to be upped to gtk2 as most distros dont support gtk1 anymore [02:59] lostson: and you're porting it yourself? Nice [02:59] yeah slowly but surely [02:59] Well, I've been a lurker on the mailing list for a while, and I discovered that from the Ubuntu forums website. [02:59] lostson: (that's blog-worthy ;)) [02:59] braxtonschafer: Cool. [02:59] definitely... [02:59] re lostson [02:59] h00k: made some good progress last night but got alot more to go yet [02:59] lostson, i applaud your work! [03:00] which reminds me, I'm writing a wedding-rsvp php ...application? site? system? whatever, using CakePHP, and am going to open-source it [03:00] with the help of exigraff, teh php/webapp dude [03:00] i saw you post that on twitter [03:00] * spikeb applauds h00k and exigraff [03:01] braxtonschafer: Yeah, I'm glad to have you around, if you have any fresh/cool ideas, please feel free to share [03:01] lostson: :D [03:01] oh, yeah. is there anyone here that I don't have on Twitter? :p [03:01] its a slow and tedious process but it comes along i want to use one of the open source game engines and create a FPS kinda in the style of ut99 fast and fun havent decided on the engine yet though [03:02] I'll keep my mind open. I work at a library, so if that's any use at all... [03:02] lostson: I support this - do it! [03:02] exigraff: I'm sure you don't have me... [03:02] as far twitter or identi im lostson on both [03:03] lostson: yep, gotcha. braxtonschafer: what's your account? [03:03] I'm anthonyrhook on twitter and identi.ca, anthony.hook3@gmail.com, http://anthonyrhook.com, I like long walks on the beach and the soulfull sounds of... [03:03] U2. [03:03] better than the Backstreet Boys [03:03] they have some okay songs [03:03] fair enough [03:03] I have to be in the right mood. [03:03] I'm bronxasaur on twitter, braxton.schafer@gmail.com and that's about it. [03:04] anybody else here a classic rock person? [03:04] h00k: you like walking through the woods looking for the hodag [03:04] lostson: YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS [03:04] yes i do spent alot of time up there [03:04] lostson: Oho, cool. [03:04] eagle river rhinelander area [03:04] yep, that's me [03:05] s/me/my area/ [03:05] lostson: do you any more? [03:06] i havent been up there in years [03:06] i think im still banned from eagle river [03:06] hodags rule [03:06] spikeb: and you know what Hodags are, tool. nice. [03:06] i am on indenti.ca as well. perhaps we should syndicate that on the site too? [03:06] microblogging, yeah [03:06] h00k, yeah i have family in that area [03:07] Oh, reminds me, we do have a tag on identica [03:07] spikeb: that was mentioned before, we just haven't quite gotten it done yet... [03:07] heh [03:07] ahh ok exigraff [03:07] i dont think we do h00k [03:07] do any of you do any web stuffs, by any chance? [03:07] spikeb: we do!trying to find the link [03:07] my office assistant is not letting me at my keyboard [03:07] h00k, ok! [03:07] http://identi.ca/group/ubuntuwi [03:07] python counts [03:07] tags: ubuntuuswi ubuntuwisconsin [03:07] awesome [03:08] i think i am subscribed to identi ubuntuwi [03:08] I should do that more. Maybe my Gwibber won't be broken and that will help me remember [03:08] try qwit for a fast twit identi experience [03:08] * spikeb joins the group [03:08] woooo! [03:09] pino was awesome but he hasnt updated it to work wit oauth yet [03:09] It's even 'OFFICIAL' [03:09] I tried pino, it was pretty cool when it worked [03:09] Gwibber needs some love :( [03:09] though admittedly it's come a long way [03:09] its not letting me join [03:10] spikeb: wat, what does it tell you? [03:10] spikeb: are you cool enough? [03:10] Sorry, we could not reach that address. Please make sure that the OStatus address is like nickname@example.com or http://example.net/nickname. [03:10] ....what [03:10] probably not, exigraff [03:11] :( [03:11] got in [03:11] spikeb: okay, I was checking to make sure you wren't blocked or anything [03:11] i prefer identi for linux chats it makes reading the conversations much easier [03:12] I agree [03:12] we could always do a ubuntu-wi statusnet instance that might be kinda cool [03:12] Why the hell didn't I think of that. [03:12] Sure. [03:12] Gimme a sec [03:12] ubuntu-wisconsin.org/status ? [03:12] i wouldnt think the overhead for something like that would be much and i have a ton of parts [03:13] h00k: sure that works [03:13] a gnu social instance would be cool as well, once that is actually something [03:13] I've never used/heard of that [03:13] >.< [03:14] the statusnet one just lock it down make it so people cant create any kind of groups or all the spam we see in identi [03:14] I've used GNU Social a bit, it seemed a bit rough around the edges. But since it's just Status.net under the hood it's actually pretty far along. [03:14] right now its just a clone of statusnet, but eventually, it is supposed to be a FOSS facebook deal [03:14] twopoint718: hello! [03:14] Oh, that Open Source Facebook deal? [03:14] Yeah, I was lurking. [03:15]