| ScottL | abogani, is a patch required when compiling the -lowlatency kernel? | 01:40 |
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| TheMuso | ScottL: For what? | 01:54 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, i am presuming you meant why do we need a patch to compile the -lowlatency kernel? | 02:44 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: I meant for what, in terms of configs/features? The plan is that we shouldn't need anything other than differing configs compared to the mainline Ubuntu kernels. | 02:47 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, exactly, that was my understanding as well, JFo had mentioned that someone told him that the -lowlatency and -preempt kernels still needed invasive patching, much like i expect the -rt kernel | 02:49 |
| ScottL | perhaps the person JFo was discussing this with was planning on including other features? | 02:50 |
| ScottL | oh, TheMuso, would you mind reviewing some seed changes if i push them? they are a bit pervasive, so it may take some time to review it | 02:53 |
| stochastic | ScottL, yes we should ship module-jack-sink | 02:56 |
| ScottL | stochastic, do you know if it is stable? will this allow us to route audio stream through jack and vise versa? | 02:57 |
| stochastic | I last used it in 10.04 on occasion and found it to be slightly unreliable, but yes, audio can be routed through Jack with this module enabled. | 02:58 |
| stochastic | it'd be nice to include this module as a on/off switch in Ubuntu Studio Controls | 02:59 |
| ScottL | stochastic, do you feel like coding it in python perhaps? that would be pretty awesoem | 02:59 |
| ScottL | s/awesoem/awesome | 03:00 |
| stochastic | ScottL, possibly | 03:00 |
| ScottL | stochastic, do you think also you might be able to fix the changes to the limits.conf file, where jack now sets the rtprio in the other file? | 03:01 |
| stochastic | probably not - I don't even know what the current system uses | 03:01 |
| * stochastic has fallen out of date with development and is still running 10.04 | 03:02 | |
| * stochastic is also working 65+ hours a week in a kitchen (far from a computer) leaving little time to sleep let alone get back into the swing of things | 03:03 | |
| stochastic | ScottL, another suggestion - don't know how tricky this would be, but could we change the homepage of firefox to be either ubuntustudio.org or the community documentation homepage? I've read a number of users stating that there is not enough initial tutorials available for people who first boot into the OS. | 03:05 |
| ScottL | stochastic, good suggestion, which ties into something someone else mentioned today | 03:07 |
| ScottL | they talking about including some tutorial videos on the image, which i thought was bloody brilliant | 03:07 |
| ScottL | although i'm unsure how to set firefox's homepage | 03:08 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: You did tell them that they would have to get those videos into the archive right? | 03:08 |
| TheMuso | ScottL: Maybe later, rather busy atm. | 03:08 |
| TheMuso | re seeds. | 03:08 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, no to the former, although i am aware of the requirement | 03:09 |
| TheMuso | Ok. | 03:09 |
| ScottL | but example content is included in vanilla ubuntu so it's not unheard of | 03:09 |
| TheMuso | Right. | 03:10 |
| ScottL | TheMuso, re: seeds, that's okay, i'm hoping to get persia to do it soon (i should have had it done already) | 03:10 |
| stochastic | ScottL, I googled it quickly and found a thing about adjusting a deb package to set the homepage (though a launcher thrown onto the desktop that runs "firefox http://pathToDocs" would also suffice) | 03:11 |
| ScottL | stochastic, lol, i was typing the "launcher on desktop" when you typed that :) | 03:12 |
| ScottL | that could be included in an existing package like -settings or something else i guess | 03:12 |
| stochastic | exactly, only problem with that might be that it's a bit hacky | 03:13 |
| ScottL | very true, i'll look at google for this later (couple of weeks probably) after i finish some other tasks | 03:14 |
| stochastic | actually ScottL, the more I think about it, there's nothing terribly hacky about putting a "help" launcher on the desktop and the settings package would be the perfect place for it | 03:20 |
| stochastic | though if networking is broken out of the box, then pointing to a http location would not be so elegant | 03:21 |
| ScottL | lol, very true stochastic :P | 03:51 |
| ScottL | i'm tempted to put network manager back into the seeds though, the "fix' for network-admin apparently isn't quite desirable as could be expected for users :( | 03:52 |
| stochastic | personally I'm fine with network manager - I've always installed it right after first boot on my machines | 04:01 |
| holstein | personally, i think the pro audio guys that would be worried about it | 04:02 |
| holstein | would know how to get rid of it | 04:02 |
| holstein | and the other guys just loading up UbStu have the hardest time with it | 04:02 |
| stochastic | ^ totally agree. Those who are serious about NEEDING the cpu power that network manager consumes (hardly any) are generally not booting Ubuntu anyway. | 04:13 |
| ScottL | you two have convinced me, i'll update the seeds :) | 04:22 |
| stochastic | ScottL, also - I don't have time or the exact expertise, but I think the topic on the workflow about "Sequence music using MIDI" should be split up a bit - it's kind of like saying "Create graphics with a mouse" | 04:28 |
| stochastic | In my opinion, there should be separate workflows for things like "create a bass line" or "play a synth pad", etc... and the best soft synths should be narrowed down that way | 04:29 |
| ScottL | stochastic, i agree with you, but, alas, i don't have the expertise either, although i'll ask the guy who made it if he could expand on it a bit, good suggestion :) | 04:37 |
| stochastic | holstein are you familiar with these workflows ^^ | 04:58 |
| holstein | not enough to be helpful :/ | 04:58 |
| abogani | ScottL: No. The lowlatency kernel don't require any patch at the moment (it could change in the future) . | 07:13 |
| ScottL | stochastic, it was a friend of mine and holstein's who did the workflows of which you speak, his name is [lsd] from #opensourcemusicians | 13:02 |
| ScottL | abogani, thank you for the answer :) | 13:11 |
| abogani | ScottL: You are welcome :-) | 14:21 |
| scott-work | persia: are you around? | 18:39 |
| persia | I am. | 18:39 |
| scott-work | persia: do you mind if we pm for a moment? | 18:47 |
| persia | You may always /query me without asking or invitation (although I can't promise any specific response time). Now is OK for me. | 18:48 |
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