[01:40] abogani, is a patch required when compiling the -lowlatency kernel? [01:54] ScottL: For what? [02:44] TheMuso, i am presuming you meant why do we need a patch to compile the -lowlatency kernel? [02:47] ScottL: I meant for what, in terms of configs/features? The plan is that we shouldn't need anything other than differing configs compared to the mainline Ubuntu kernels. [02:49] TheMuso, exactly, that was my understanding as well, JFo had mentioned that someone told him that the -lowlatency and -preempt kernels still needed invasive patching, much like i expect the -rt kernel [02:50] perhaps the person JFo was discussing this with was planning on including other features? [02:53] oh, TheMuso, would you mind reviewing some seed changes if i push them? they are a bit pervasive, so it may take some time to review it [02:56] ScottL, yes we should ship module-jack-sink [02:57] stochastic, do you know if it is stable? will this allow us to route audio stream through jack and vise versa? [02:58] I last used it in 10.04 on occasion and found it to be slightly unreliable, but yes, audio can be routed through Jack with this module enabled. [02:59] it'd be nice to include this module as a on/off switch in Ubuntu Studio Controls [02:59] stochastic, do you feel like coding it in python perhaps? that would be pretty awesoem [03:00] s/awesoem/awesome [03:00] ScottL, possibly [03:01] stochastic, do you think also you might be able to fix the changes to the limits.conf file, where jack now sets the rtprio in the other file? [03:01] probably not - I don't even know what the current system uses [03:02] * stochastic has fallen out of date with development and is still running 10.04 [03:03] * stochastic is also working 65+ hours a week in a kitchen (far from a computer) leaving little time to sleep let alone get back into the swing of things [03:05] ScottL, another suggestion - don't know how tricky this would be, but could we change the homepage of firefox to be either ubuntustudio.org or the community documentation homepage? I've read a number of users stating that there is not enough initial tutorials available for people who first boot into the OS. [03:07] stochastic, good suggestion, which ties into something someone else mentioned today [03:07] they talking about including some tutorial videos on the image, which i thought was bloody brilliant [03:08] although i'm unsure how to set firefox's homepage [03:08] ScottL: You did tell them that they would have to get those videos into the archive right? [03:08] ScottL: Maybe later, rather busy atm. [03:08] re seeds. [03:09] TheMuso, no to the former, although i am aware of the requirement [03:09] Ok. [03:09] but example content is included in vanilla ubuntu so it's not unheard of [03:10] Right. [03:10] TheMuso, re: seeds, that's okay, i'm hoping to get persia to do it soon (i should have had it done already) [03:11] ScottL, I googled it quickly and found a thing about adjusting a deb package to set the homepage (though a launcher thrown onto the desktop that runs "firefox http://pathToDocs" would also suffice) [03:12] stochastic, lol, i was typing the "launcher on desktop" when you typed that :) [03:12] that could be included in an existing package like -settings or something else i guess [03:13] exactly, only problem with that might be that it's a bit hacky [03:14] very true, i'll look at google for this later (couple of weeks probably) after i finish some other tasks [03:20] actually ScottL, the more I think about it, there's nothing terribly hacky about putting a "help" launcher on the desktop and the settings package would be the perfect place for it [03:21] though if networking is broken out of the box, then pointing to a http location would not be so elegant [03:51] lol, very true stochastic :P [03:52] i'm tempted to put network manager back into the seeds though, the "fix' for network-admin apparently isn't quite desirable as could be expected for users :( [04:01] personally I'm fine with network manager - I've always installed it right after first boot on my machines [04:02] personally, i think the pro audio guys that would be worried about it [04:02] would know how to get rid of it [04:02] and the other guys just loading up UbStu have the hardest time with it [04:13] ^ totally agree. Those who are serious about NEEDING the cpu power that network manager consumes (hardly any) are generally not booting Ubuntu anyway. [04:22] you two have convinced me, i'll update the seeds :) [04:28] ScottL, also - I don't have time or the exact expertise, but I think the topic on the workflow about "Sequence music using MIDI" should be split up a bit - it's kind of like saying "Create graphics with a mouse" [04:29] In my opinion, there should be separate workflows for things like "create a bass line" or "play a synth pad", etc... and the best soft synths should be narrowed down that way [04:37] stochastic, i agree with you, but, alas, i don't have the expertise either, although i'll ask the guy who made it if he could expand on it a bit, good suggestion :) [04:58] holstein are you familiar with these workflows ^^ [04:58] not enough to be helpful :/ [07:13] ScottL: No. The lowlatency kernel don't require any patch at the moment (it could change in the future) . [13:02] stochastic, it was a friend of mine and holstein's who did the workflows of which you speak, his name is [lsd] from #opensourcemusicians [13:11] abogani, thank you for the answer :) [14:21] ScottL: You are welcome :-) [18:39] persia: are you around? [18:39] I am. [18:47] persia: do you mind if we pm for a moment? [18:48] You may always /query me without asking or invitation (although I can't promise any specific response time). Now is OK for me. === JFo is now known as JFo-food === JFo-food is now known as JFo