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toenailsup holstein01:47
holsteintoenail: hey :)02:02
holsteintoo bad about the rig02:02
holsteini just did a session with mine last night02:02
holsteinworked great02:02
toenailyea im trying a couple things on the ubu site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation02:03
holsteintoenail: you shouldnt have to anymore02:03
toenailwell its doing something ha . my windows just changed for some reason02:04
holsteini had to do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire02:04
toenailwindow theme02:04
holsteinthe lucid entry02:04
toenailoh its the same for mine ill try it02:05
toenailone line at a time?02:05
toenailright02:05
holsteinecho 'KERNEL=="raw1394", GROUP="video", MODE="0664"' |02:06
holsteinsudo tee /etc/udev/rules.d/50-raw1394.rules02:06
holsteinhowever02:06
holsteinsudo qjackctl always works02:06
holsteinbefore that02:06
holsteinfor me02:06
holsteintoenail: what happens?02:06
holsteinhow does it fail?02:07
holsteintoenail: did you get that firmware update?02:07
holsteinfor the pod?02:07
holsteini remember doing one02:08
toenaili run jack then try anything (ardour rackarack) and the box runs like a 25mhz maching running xp , lets say in theory its possible but we know how it wuld run02:08
holsteinid try another chipset02:09
holsteinfirewire chipset02:09
toenaili havent done a firewire update not that i known of02:09
holsteintoenail: well, im all over the place with suggestions02:10
holsteini did a firmware update with the firepod02:10
holsteinback when i was running windows02:10
holsteini dont remember what vesion though02:10
toenailwell right now im running those commands in terminal and its just sitting there after i types the sudu tee.......02:10
holsteintoenail: i would just copy and paste them from that wiki page02:11
holsteinanyways02:11
holsteinsounds like hardware to me02:11
holsteinfirewire or pod issue02:12
holsteinwouldnt hurt to flash the firmware on the pod02:12
toenailam i supposed to run that whole thing as a command in terminal02:12
holsteini literally grab the whole thing02:12
holsteinand paste it in to the terminal02:12
toenailwell the pod worked great for a bit with windows til i tried getting software to crack my old zip file passwords then it messed up the pc02:13
toenailoh ok02:13
holsteinits just adding that rules file02:13
holsteinwell, i havent taken the time to install maverick and confirm that it works02:14
holsteinit= the pod02:14
holsteinBUT i can assure you its rockn and rollin in lucid for me02:14
holsteini tracked a session last night02:14
holstein6 tracks02:14
holsteinover 2 hours02:15
holsteinno xruns02:15
holsteinno BS02:15
toenailnice well i put that command into terminal im gonna reboot and the if it doesnt work try further on the page02:15
holstein:)02:15
toenailwell like normal its running fine now for the try with ardour02:29
toenailhow do i assign certain tracks to inputs again02:34
toenailin adour02:34
holsteinyou can use the mixer02:35
holsteinin ardour02:35
holsteini use JACK02:35
holsteinthe 'connect' button02:35
toenailoh i get it02:36
toenailnow in jack it says in 1 in 2 that would be r & L correct02:38
holsteinif thats what you use them as02:39
holsteinyou get to decide that02:39
holsteini usually use 1 as left02:41
toenailok , well i just recorded one track doing thunderstruck by acdc just to try it out now track 202:42
toenailrythym02:42
toenailso far its a go03:04
toenailonly thin in ardour is i cant hear both tracks playing back , maybe i setup in jack i forgot03:05
holsteinyeah03:05
holsteinjust double check the routing03:05
holsteini dont think they play if they are armed03:06
toenailwell i dont see the headphone jack in there03:06
toenailheadphone output rather03:06
holsteinoh03:07
holsteinin JACK03:07
toenailyea03:07
holsteinyeah, the headphone out just monitors whatever is going through the pod03:07
toenailjust 1-8 and spdi out03:07
toenailwhich i assume is midi03:07
holsteinwhen i route to 1 and 203:08
holsteinthats just in the headphones03:08
toenailoh well in windows xp in order to play all tracks recorded you had to have the headphone jack pluged in03:08
holsteinthe headphones dont get there own JACK entry03:08
holsteintoenail: yeah?03:09
holsteini used cubase with the pod03:09
holsteinand what i found was the headphone jack just played whatever was being monitored03:09
holsteinwhatever was routed to the main outs in cubase03:09
holsteinand i find the same under linux03:10
holsteini have a headphone distribution amp i use03:10
toenailoh im using a pa03:10
toenailsoundcard out #2  and pod #603:11
holsteinyour not using JACK?03:11
toenailno i am but the soundcard and pd are hooked up to a pa system03:11
holsteinOH03:12
holsteinhhee03:12
holsteini thought pa was pulse audio03:12
holsteinyeah, the pod dont care what your monitoring with03:12
toenailwell the same thing is happening now . if i dont turn up the phones on the pod i cant hear what i recorded and as well the first track i recorded i dont hear03:13
holsteinthe phones?03:14
holsteinor the mains?03:14
holsteintheres one output that has no fader03:14
holstein'monitor' i think03:14
holsteinthe main out is controlled by that main fader03:14
holsteinwell, knob ;)03:14
holsteinnot fader03:14
toenailim confused now ?03:14
holsteinon the pod03:15
holsteinyou got 'main level'03:15
holsteinand 'phones'03:16
toenailthe head phones jack pluged in the PA is the only way i can hear what i recorded the mixer know has to be turned to playback (10) instead of inputs (0) (volume rating03:16
holsteinOH03:16
holsteinyeah dont do that03:16
toenailyea the main is on 503:16
holsteinyou want to send from one of the outputs03:16
holsteinon the back03:16
holsteinnot the headphone out03:16
holsteinto the PA03:16
holsteinthe PA is expecting a line level input03:16
toenailPa as in real Pa i have no idea how to use pulse audio and dont have it running03:17
holsteinthat would be from the 'main out' or the 'cue out'03:17
holsteinon the back03:17
holsteintoenail: yeah, i understand now03:17
toenailon brb damn beer its more like a rental drink the piss03:17
holsteinyour running from the headphones out to a PA system03:17
toenailyea ill switch it when i get back03:18
toenaili have to get a longer wire i accidentally unpluged the pod the the system lagged up03:26
toenaili did what you said but stilll the same problem03:27
holsteinSO, you took 2 lines03:28
holsteinfrom the main outs?03:28
holsteinand ran those to the PA ?03:28
toenailtrack 8 was recorded 1st then track track 2 and if i move the mixer knob to inputs i can hear track 2 but not track 8 , i can though hear track 8 if i move the knob to playback03:29
toenailyea i ran main 1 out to the pa03:30
toenailmain cr output03:31
holsteinthats not right03:31
holsteinplayback is just that03:31
holsteinplayback03:31
holsteinyou shouldnt hear anything from the computer over on inputs03:32
holsteinthats not a software setting03:32
holsteinthats in the device03:32
holsteinhardware03:32
toenailok i disconnected and im gonna try a different output03:32
holsteini turn that knob to 'inputs'03:33
holsteinwhen im setting up03:33
holsteingetting sounds and moving mics around03:33
holsteini have it all the way over to 'playback'03:33
holsteinwhen mixing03:33
toenailyea i did the same when i worked with it in windows but now track 2 doesnt play on playback03:34
toenailunless i have it on the wrong output i dont know03:34
toenailcause i did the same setup with Xp and it worked03:34
holsteinOK03:35
holsteinim not sure i follow03:35
holsteinyour playing 'track 2'03:35
holsteinand that is routed to both outputs03:35
holsteinin JACK03:35
holstein1 and 2?03:35
holsteincoud be a stereo issue03:35
holsteinif you have track 2 routed to only one side03:36
holsteinmake sure both of track 2's outs are routed03:36
holsteinone to 1 and the other to 203:36
holsteinthen grab some headphones03:36
holsteinand make sure its there03:36
holsteinTHEN move on to the PA monitoring03:37
toenail?03:41
toenailno idea what im doing03:41
holsteinhehe03:41
toenaili think ill just reinstall windows every 3 months03:41
toenaili got it running stable now but now another issue then the next and then the next03:42
holsteinjust route whatever you want to monitor into the outputs 1 and 203:42
holsteinplug your guitar back in to track 803:42
holsteinand route that to both outputs03:42
holsteinput on the phones03:42
holsteincheck the signal03:42
holsteinthats what will come out of the main outs03:42
holsteinregardless of the OS03:42
toenailwell with windows its just plug all 8 things in and go apparently its not that with ubuntu studio03:45
toenaili dont know maybe im just getting to fustrated03:45
holsteinhey, took me a while03:46
holsteinthere is nothing like JACK though03:46
holsteini mean, i think there is a windows version03:46
holsteinBUT all the linux software just talks to JACK03:46
holsteintoo easy03:46
toenailas you can see its taken me a while to and im on step 203:46
holsteinlol03:47
holsteini spent more like 2 years dual booting ;)03:47
holsteinwith a WUBI install03:47
holsteintrying to get the firepod to work at all03:47
holsteintrying linux in my spare time03:48
holsteini had it on a laptop already03:48
holsteinthat i was using for day to day stuff03:48
holsteinto get used to it03:48
toenailyea thats the thing i like linux because its more stable but but have much freetime todo all this stuff just to get one device working03:48
holsteinyou got it working now :)03:49
holsteinno drivers to install03:49
toenailyea i think im just a retard with add03:49
toenailha03:49
holsteinhehe03:49
holsteinnah03:49
holsteinits challening for sure03:49
holsteini remember when i wiped the studio machine03:50
holsteini was running 64studio then03:50
holsteinfelt great03:50
holsteinlike i had bought a bunch of new stuff03:50
holsteinXP and cubase worked fine though03:50
holsteini just wanted more functionality and options03:51
holsteinand the perfomance was better i thought03:51
holsteinwith JACK03:51
toenailyea im a big ediot though for running ubuntu 6.10 then going back into windows instead of just running ubuntu and figuring it out03:51
holstein6.10 was quite different03:52
holsteinold school :)03:52
toenailyea that was about 5 years ago03:52
toenailthats the last time i ran it03:52
toenaili know i got something wrong though for the jack setup i got a screenshot03:53
toenailim sending it to you now03:55
holsteintoenail: i'll try to get screenies of my setup for you next time im in the studio03:56
toenailok take a look at mine im sure you'll find something wrong thogh03:57
toenailthough*03:57
holsteinsure03:57
holsteinyeah, i can remember most of it03:58
toenailok im trying to send the file ; don't know if you see it03:59
holsteinOK03:59
holsteinOH03:59
holsteinyeah, you might have to pastebin it03:59
holsteinhttp://imagebin.org/03:59
holsteinif you dont mind03:59
holsteinim running on a server03:59
holsteinand i turned off DCC's04:00
toenailno problem its a trojan anyways ha no here ya you go http://imagebin.org/12373004:02
holsteinhehe04:03
holsteintoenail: what is that hp icon?04:03
toenailits for the printer its the only way i got it working hp printer04:04
holsteincool04:04
holsteini dont know what that 000a9 so on is all about04:05
toenailaudio 3 was input 8 (hense me calling its track 8) and audio 3 was track 2 really input 2 on the pod04:05
holsteini dont have that04:05
toenailhmm i also wondered if our looking input 1 & 2 are the same which it should be cause if i plug all 8 in then i'd assume that the track would be f--ed up04:06
holsteini'll have to get some screens for you04:07
toenaili think 00a9 is just the hardware address04:07
holsteinyeah04:07
holsteinbut i dont have them04:07
toenailweird04:07
holsteintoenail: is that an FP10?04:07
holsteinor an older firepod?04:07
toenailmiht be older i think04:08
toenailnight*04:08
holsteinsuppose to be the same ive heard04:08
toenailMight*04:08
holsteinyeah, thats what i got04:08
holsteinyou might want to check04:08
holsteinnext time your in windows04:08
holsteinand flash the firmware04:08
toenailits got the 8 inputs in front then the midi in back04:08
toenaili dont have windows installed anmore04:08
toenailanymore*04:08
holsteintoenail: says 'firepod' on it?04:08
toenailyea04:09
holsteinyeah, thats it04:09
holsteinthe new ones say FP1004:09
toenailoh ok04:09
holsteinthere was a really good firmware update04:09
holsteinadded some functionality04:09
toenailin ubu studio04:09
toenail?04:09
holsteinthe OS on the pod04:10
holsteinthe firmware04:10
toenailoh i have no idea on how to update it , yet my router is  different story04:11
toenailmore beer exiting the system be right back04:11
toenailback04:13
holsteini got distracted by http://www.presonus.com/news/press/Detail.aspx?NewsID=7604:14
holsteintrying to find the firmware updater04:14
holsteini was going to see if it would run in wine04:14
toenailah so by a new one for the same price and send back the old one for a refund of 20004:17
holsteinold ad though04:18
toenailyea04:18
holsteinand i dont think FFADO supports that one04:18
toenailbut basically spend 1000 and get a new one 200 refund04:19
toenailyea probly not04:19
toenailalso as far as wine i don't have it installed04:21
toenailyou ever use Goldwave for windows its a real simple program but i've been using it for 10 years and its nice i ran it once with wine bu 6.10 and it didnt work but do you think theres a program like it now or you think it would work with this studio ubuntu version04:23
toenailalso good new no crashing yet on the system jacks been running the whole time thanks again04:23
holsteinis it like soundforge?04:24
holsteinlike audacity?04:24
toenailbetter then audiocity04:24
toenailhttp://www.goldwave.com/04:24
holsteinthere are a ton of editors04:25
holsteinhttp://www.renoise.com/ is a commercial one04:25
holsteinlooks interesting04:25
holsteini checked out the demo04:25
toenailnevermind i found some stuff with wine and it04:25
holsteinyeah, wineHQ or whatever04:26
holsteinalright... V time04:26
holsteini got disc 2 in the mail04:27
holstein...bbl04:27
ghostwheelis there a vst enabled package of ardour floating around somewhere?12:10
ghostwheelis there a vst enabled package of ardour floating around somewhere?12:46
domjohnsonHello17:22
domjohnsonAnyone know any graphics tablets that are fully supported in Linux/Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio?17:22
domjohnson*Anyone know any A5 or bigger tablets that are fully supported in Linux and cost £250 or less?19:16
domjohnsonAre the trust tablets supported?19:17

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