toenail | sup holstein | 01:47 |
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holstein | toenail: hey :) | 02:02 |
holstein | too bad about the rig | 02:02 |
holstein | i just did a session with mine last night | 02:02 |
holstein | worked great | 02:02 |
toenail | yea im trying a couple things on the ubu site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation | 02:03 |
holstein | toenail: you shouldnt have to anymore | 02:03 |
toenail | well its doing something ha . my windows just changed for some reason | 02:04 |
holstein | i had to do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire | 02:04 |
toenail | window theme | 02:04 |
holstein | the lucid entry | 02:04 |
toenail | oh its the same for mine ill try it | 02:05 |
toenail | one line at a time? | 02:05 |
toenail | right | 02:05 |
holstein | echo 'KERNEL=="raw1394", GROUP="video", MODE="0664"' | | 02:06 |
holstein | sudo tee /etc/udev/rules.d/50-raw1394.rules | 02:06 |
holstein | however | 02:06 |
holstein | sudo qjackctl always works | 02:06 |
holstein | before that | 02:06 |
holstein | for me | 02:06 |
holstein | toenail: what happens? | 02:06 |
holstein | how does it fail? | 02:07 |
holstein | toenail: did you get that firmware update? | 02:07 |
holstein | for the pod? | 02:07 |
holstein | i remember doing one | 02:08 |
toenail | i run jack then try anything (ardour rackarack) and the box runs like a 25mhz maching running xp , lets say in theory its possible but we know how it wuld run | 02:08 |
holstein | id try another chipset | 02:09 |
holstein | firewire chipset | 02:09 |
toenail | i havent done a firewire update not that i known of | 02:09 |
holstein | toenail: well, im all over the place with suggestions | 02:10 |
holstein | i did a firmware update with the firepod | 02:10 |
holstein | back when i was running windows | 02:10 |
holstein | i dont remember what vesion though | 02:10 |
toenail | well right now im running those commands in terminal and its just sitting there after i types the sudu tee....... | 02:10 |
holstein | toenail: i would just copy and paste them from that wiki page | 02:11 |
holstein | anyways | 02:11 |
holstein | sounds like hardware to me | 02:11 |
holstein | firewire or pod issue | 02:12 |
holstein | wouldnt hurt to flash the firmware on the pod | 02:12 |
toenail | am i supposed to run that whole thing as a command in terminal | 02:12 |
holstein | i literally grab the whole thing | 02:12 |
holstein | and paste it in to the terminal | 02:12 |
toenail | well the pod worked great for a bit with windows til i tried getting software to crack my old zip file passwords then it messed up the pc | 02:13 |
toenail | oh ok | 02:13 |
holstein | its just adding that rules file | 02:13 |
holstein | well, i havent taken the time to install maverick and confirm that it works | 02:14 |
holstein | it= the pod | 02:14 |
holstein | BUT i can assure you its rockn and rollin in lucid for me | 02:14 |
holstein | i tracked a session last night | 02:14 |
holstein | 6 tracks | 02:14 |
holstein | over 2 hours | 02:15 |
holstein | no xruns | 02:15 |
holstein | no BS | 02:15 |
toenail | nice well i put that command into terminal im gonna reboot and the if it doesnt work try further on the page | 02:15 |
holstein | :) | 02:15 |
toenail | well like normal its running fine now for the try with ardour | 02:29 |
toenail | how do i assign certain tracks to inputs again | 02:34 |
toenail | in adour | 02:34 |
holstein | you can use the mixer | 02:35 |
holstein | in ardour | 02:35 |
holstein | i use JACK | 02:35 |
holstein | the 'connect' button | 02:35 |
toenail | oh i get it | 02:36 |
toenail | now in jack it says in 1 in 2 that would be r & L correct | 02:38 |
holstein | if thats what you use them as | 02:39 |
holstein | you get to decide that | 02:39 |
holstein | i usually use 1 as left | 02:41 |
toenail | ok , well i just recorded one track doing thunderstruck by acdc just to try it out now track 2 | 02:42 |
toenail | rythym | 02:42 |
toenail | so far its a go | 03:04 |
toenail | only thin in ardour is i cant hear both tracks playing back , maybe i setup in jack i forgot | 03:05 |
holstein | yeah | 03:05 |
holstein | just double check the routing | 03:05 |
holstein | i dont think they play if they are armed | 03:06 |
toenail | well i dont see the headphone jack in there | 03:06 |
toenail | headphone output rather | 03:06 |
holstein | oh | 03:07 |
holstein | in JACK | 03:07 |
toenail | yea | 03:07 |
holstein | yeah, the headphone out just monitors whatever is going through the pod | 03:07 |
toenail | just 1-8 and spdi out | 03:07 |
toenail | which i assume is midi | 03:07 |
holstein | when i route to 1 and 2 | 03:08 |
holstein | thats just in the headphones | 03:08 |
toenail | oh well in windows xp in order to play all tracks recorded you had to have the headphone jack pluged in | 03:08 |
holstein | the headphones dont get there own JACK entry | 03:08 |
holstein | toenail: yeah? | 03:09 |
holstein | i used cubase with the pod | 03:09 |
holstein | and what i found was the headphone jack just played whatever was being monitored | 03:09 |
holstein | whatever was routed to the main outs in cubase | 03:09 |
holstein | and i find the same under linux | 03:10 |
holstein | i have a headphone distribution amp i use | 03:10 |
toenail | oh im using a pa | 03:10 |
toenail | soundcard out #2 and pod #6 | 03:11 |
holstein | your not using JACK? | 03:11 |
toenail | no i am but the soundcard and pd are hooked up to a pa system | 03:11 |
holstein | OH | 03:12 |
holstein | hhee | 03:12 |
holstein | i thought pa was pulse audio | 03:12 |
holstein | yeah, the pod dont care what your monitoring with | 03:12 |
toenail | well the same thing is happening now . if i dont turn up the phones on the pod i cant hear what i recorded and as well the first track i recorded i dont hear | 03:13 |
holstein | the phones? | 03:14 |
holstein | or the mains? | 03:14 |
holstein | theres one output that has no fader | 03:14 |
holstein | 'monitor' i think | 03:14 |
holstein | the main out is controlled by that main fader | 03:14 |
holstein | well, knob ;) | 03:14 |
holstein | not fader | 03:14 |
toenail | im confused now ? | 03:14 |
holstein | on the pod | 03:15 |
holstein | you got 'main level' | 03:15 |
holstein | and 'phones' | 03:16 |
toenail | the head phones jack pluged in the PA is the only way i can hear what i recorded the mixer know has to be turned to playback (10) instead of inputs (0) (volume rating | 03:16 |
holstein | OH | 03:16 |
holstein | yeah dont do that | 03:16 |
toenail | yea the main is on 5 | 03:16 |
holstein | you want to send from one of the outputs | 03:16 |
holstein | on the back | 03:16 |
holstein | not the headphone out | 03:16 |
holstein | to the PA | 03:16 |
holstein | the PA is expecting a line level input | 03:16 |
toenail | Pa as in real Pa i have no idea how to use pulse audio and dont have it running | 03:17 |
holstein | that would be from the 'main out' or the 'cue out' | 03:17 |
holstein | on the back | 03:17 |
holstein | toenail: yeah, i understand now | 03:17 |
toenail | on brb damn beer its more like a rental drink the piss | 03:17 |
holstein | your running from the headphones out to a PA system | 03:17 |
toenail | yea ill switch it when i get back | 03:18 |
toenail | i have to get a longer wire i accidentally unpluged the pod the the system lagged up | 03:26 |
toenail | i did what you said but stilll the same problem | 03:27 |
holstein | SO, you took 2 lines | 03:28 |
holstein | from the main outs? | 03:28 |
holstein | and ran those to the PA ? | 03:28 |
toenail | track 8 was recorded 1st then track track 2 and if i move the mixer knob to inputs i can hear track 2 but not track 8 , i can though hear track 8 if i move the knob to playback | 03:29 |
toenail | yea i ran main 1 out to the pa | 03:30 |
toenail | main cr output | 03:31 |
holstein | thats not right | 03:31 |
holstein | playback is just that | 03:31 |
holstein | playback | 03:31 |
holstein | you shouldnt hear anything from the computer over on inputs | 03:32 |
holstein | thats not a software setting | 03:32 |
holstein | thats in the device | 03:32 |
holstein | hardware | 03:32 |
toenail | ok i disconnected and im gonna try a different output | 03:32 |
holstein | i turn that knob to 'inputs' | 03:33 |
holstein | when im setting up | 03:33 |
holstein | getting sounds and moving mics around | 03:33 |
holstein | i have it all the way over to 'playback' | 03:33 |
holstein | when mixing | 03:33 |
toenail | yea i did the same when i worked with it in windows but now track 2 doesnt play on playback | 03:34 |
toenail | unless i have it on the wrong output i dont know | 03:34 |
toenail | cause i did the same setup with Xp and it worked | 03:34 |
holstein | OK | 03:35 |
holstein | im not sure i follow | 03:35 |
holstein | your playing 'track 2' | 03:35 |
holstein | and that is routed to both outputs | 03:35 |
holstein | in JACK | 03:35 |
holstein | 1 and 2? | 03:35 |
holstein | coud be a stereo issue | 03:35 |
holstein | if you have track 2 routed to only one side | 03:36 |
holstein | make sure both of track 2's outs are routed | 03:36 |
holstein | one to 1 and the other to 2 | 03:36 |
holstein | then grab some headphones | 03:36 |
holstein | and make sure its there | 03:36 |
holstein | THEN move on to the PA monitoring | 03:37 |
toenail | ? | 03:41 |
toenail | no idea what im doing | 03:41 |
holstein | hehe | 03:41 |
toenail | i think ill just reinstall windows every 3 months | 03:41 |
toenail | i got it running stable now but now another issue then the next and then the next | 03:42 |
holstein | just route whatever you want to monitor into the outputs 1 and 2 | 03:42 |
holstein | plug your guitar back in to track 8 | 03:42 |
holstein | and route that to both outputs | 03:42 |
holstein | put on the phones | 03:42 |
holstein | check the signal | 03:42 |
holstein | thats what will come out of the main outs | 03:42 |
holstein | regardless of the OS | 03:42 |
toenail | well with windows its just plug all 8 things in and go apparently its not that with ubuntu studio | 03:45 |
toenail | i dont know maybe im just getting to fustrated | 03:45 |
holstein | hey, took me a while | 03:46 |
holstein | there is nothing like JACK though | 03:46 |
holstein | i mean, i think there is a windows version | 03:46 |
holstein | BUT all the linux software just talks to JACK | 03:46 |
holstein | too easy | 03:46 |
toenail | as you can see its taken me a while to and im on step 2 | 03:46 |
holstein | lol | 03:47 |
holstein | i spent more like 2 years dual booting ;) | 03:47 |
holstein | with a WUBI install | 03:47 |
holstein | trying to get the firepod to work at all | 03:47 |
holstein | trying linux in my spare time | 03:48 |
holstein | i had it on a laptop already | 03:48 |
holstein | that i was using for day to day stuff | 03:48 |
holstein | to get used to it | 03:48 |
toenail | yea thats the thing i like linux because its more stable but but have much freetime todo all this stuff just to get one device working | 03:48 |
holstein | you got it working now :) | 03:49 |
holstein | no drivers to install | 03:49 |
toenail | yea i think im just a retard with add | 03:49 |
toenail | ha | 03:49 |
holstein | hehe | 03:49 |
holstein | nah | 03:49 |
holstein | its challening for sure | 03:49 |
holstein | i remember when i wiped the studio machine | 03:50 |
holstein | i was running 64studio then | 03:50 |
holstein | felt great | 03:50 |
holstein | like i had bought a bunch of new stuff | 03:50 |
holstein | XP and cubase worked fine though | 03:50 |
holstein | i just wanted more functionality and options | 03:51 |
holstein | and the perfomance was better i thought | 03:51 |
holstein | with JACK | 03:51 |
toenail | yea im a big ediot though for running ubuntu 6.10 then going back into windows instead of just running ubuntu and figuring it out | 03:51 |
holstein | 6.10 was quite different | 03:52 |
holstein | old school :) | 03:52 |
toenail | yea that was about 5 years ago | 03:52 |
toenail | thats the last time i ran it | 03:52 |
toenail | i know i got something wrong though for the jack setup i got a screenshot | 03:53 |
toenail | im sending it to you now | 03:55 |
holstein | toenail: i'll try to get screenies of my setup for you next time im in the studio | 03:56 |
toenail | ok take a look at mine im sure you'll find something wrong thogh | 03:57 |
toenail | though* | 03:57 |
holstein | sure | 03:57 |
holstein | yeah, i can remember most of it | 03:58 |
toenail | ok im trying to send the file ; don't know if you see it | 03:59 |
holstein | OK | 03:59 |
holstein | OH | 03:59 |
holstein | yeah, you might have to pastebin it | 03:59 |
holstein | http://imagebin.org/ | 03:59 |
holstein | if you dont mind | 03:59 |
holstein | im running on a server | 03:59 |
holstein | and i turned off DCC's | 04:00 |
toenail | no problem its a trojan anyways ha no here ya you go http://imagebin.org/123730 | 04:02 |
holstein | hehe | 04:03 |
holstein | toenail: what is that hp icon? | 04:03 |
toenail | its for the printer its the only way i got it working hp printer | 04:04 |
holstein | cool | 04:04 |
holstein | i dont know what that 000a9 so on is all about | 04:05 |
toenail | audio 3 was input 8 (hense me calling its track 8) and audio 3 was track 2 really input 2 on the pod | 04:05 |
holstein | i dont have that | 04:05 |
toenail | hmm i also wondered if our looking input 1 & 2 are the same which it should be cause if i plug all 8 in then i'd assume that the track would be f--ed up | 04:06 |
holstein | i'll have to get some screens for you | 04:07 |
toenail | i think 00a9 is just the hardware address | 04:07 |
holstein | yeah | 04:07 |
holstein | but i dont have them | 04:07 |
toenail | weird | 04:07 |
holstein | toenail: is that an FP10? | 04:07 |
holstein | or an older firepod? | 04:07 |
toenail | miht be older i think | 04:08 |
toenail | night* | 04:08 |
holstein | suppose to be the same ive heard | 04:08 |
toenail | Might* | 04:08 |
holstein | yeah, thats what i got | 04:08 |
holstein | you might want to check | 04:08 |
holstein | next time your in windows | 04:08 |
holstein | and flash the firmware | 04:08 |
toenail | its got the 8 inputs in front then the midi in back | 04:08 |
toenail | i dont have windows installed anmore | 04:08 |
toenail | anymore* | 04:08 |
holstein | toenail: says 'firepod' on it? | 04:08 |
toenail | yea | 04:09 |
holstein | yeah, thats it | 04:09 |
holstein | the new ones say FP10 | 04:09 |
toenail | oh ok | 04:09 |
holstein | there was a really good firmware update | 04:09 |
holstein | added some functionality | 04:09 |
toenail | in ubu studio | 04:09 |
toenail | ? | 04:09 |
holstein | the OS on the pod | 04:10 |
holstein | the firmware | 04:10 |
toenail | oh i have no idea on how to update it , yet my router is different story | 04:11 |
toenail | more beer exiting the system be right back | 04:11 |
toenail | back | 04:13 |
holstein | i got distracted by http://www.presonus.com/news/press/Detail.aspx?NewsID=76 | 04:14 |
holstein | trying to find the firmware updater | 04:14 |
holstein | i was going to see if it would run in wine | 04:14 |
toenail | ah so by a new one for the same price and send back the old one for a refund of 200 | 04:17 |
holstein | old ad though | 04:18 |
toenail | yea | 04:18 |
holstein | and i dont think FFADO supports that one | 04:18 |
toenail | but basically spend 1000 and get a new one 200 refund | 04:19 |
toenail | yea probly not | 04:19 |
toenail | also as far as wine i don't have it installed | 04:21 |
toenail | you ever use Goldwave for windows its a real simple program but i've been using it for 10 years and its nice i ran it once with wine bu 6.10 and it didnt work but do you think theres a program like it now or you think it would work with this studio ubuntu version | 04:23 |
toenail | also good new no crashing yet on the system jacks been running the whole time thanks again | 04:23 |
holstein | is it like soundforge? | 04:24 |
holstein | like audacity? | 04:24 |
toenail | better then audiocity | 04:24 |
toenail | http://www.goldwave.com/ | 04:24 |
holstein | there are a ton of editors | 04:25 |
holstein | http://www.renoise.com/ is a commercial one | 04:25 |
holstein | looks interesting | 04:25 |
holstein | i checked out the demo | 04:25 |
toenail | nevermind i found some stuff with wine and it | 04:25 |
holstein | yeah, wineHQ or whatever | 04:26 |
holstein | alright... V time | 04:26 |
holstein | i got disc 2 in the mail | 04:27 |
holstein | ...bbl | 04:27 |
ghostwheel | is there a vst enabled package of ardour floating around somewhere? | 12:10 |
ghostwheel | is there a vst enabled package of ardour floating around somewhere? | 12:46 |
domjohnson | Hello | 17:22 |
domjohnson | Anyone know any graphics tablets that are fully supported in Linux/Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio? | 17:22 |
domjohnson | *Anyone know any A5 or bigger tablets that are fully supported in Linux and cost £250 or less? | 19:16 |
domjohnson | Are the trust tablets supported? | 19:17 |
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