[01:47] <toenail> sup holstein
[02:02] <holstein> toenail: hey :)
[02:02] <holstein> too bad about the rig
[02:02] <holstein> i just did a session with mine last night
[02:02] <holstein> worked great
[02:03] <toenail> yea im trying a couple things on the ubu site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[02:03] <holstein> toenail: you shouldnt have to anymore
[02:04] <toenail> well its doing something ha . my windows just changed for some reason
[02:04] <holstein> i had to do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firewire
[02:04] <toenail> window theme
[02:04] <holstein> the lucid entry
[02:05] <toenail> oh its the same for mine ill try it
[02:05] <toenail> one line at a time?
[02:05] <toenail> right
[02:06] <holstein> echo 'KERNEL=="raw1394", GROUP="video", MODE="0664"' |
[02:06] <holstein> sudo tee /etc/udev/rules.d/50-raw1394.rules
[02:06] <holstein> however
[02:06] <holstein> sudo qjackctl always works
[02:06] <holstein> before that
[02:06] <holstein> for me
[02:06] <holstein> toenail: what happens?
[02:07] <holstein> how does it fail?
[02:07] <holstein> toenail: did you get that firmware update?
[02:07] <holstein> for the pod?
[02:08] <holstein> i remember doing one
[02:08] <toenail> i run jack then try anything (ardour rackarack) and the box runs like a 25mhz maching running xp , lets say in theory its possible but we know how it wuld run
[02:09] <holstein> id try another chipset
[02:09] <holstein> firewire chipset
[02:09] <toenail> i havent done a firewire update not that i known of
[02:10] <holstein> toenail: well, im all over the place with suggestions
[02:10] <holstein> i did a firmware update with the firepod
[02:10] <holstein> back when i was running windows
[02:10] <holstein> i dont remember what vesion though
[02:10] <toenail> well right now im running those commands in terminal and its just sitting there after i types the sudu tee.......
[02:11] <holstein> toenail: i would just copy and paste them from that wiki page
[02:11] <holstein> anyways
[02:11] <holstein> sounds like hardware to me
[02:12] <holstein> firewire or pod issue
[02:12] <holstein> wouldnt hurt to flash the firmware on the pod
[02:12] <toenail> am i supposed to run that whole thing as a command in terminal
[02:12] <holstein> i literally grab the whole thing
[02:12] <holstein> and paste it in to the terminal
[02:13] <toenail> well the pod worked great for a bit with windows til i tried getting software to crack my old zip file passwords then it messed up the pc
[02:13] <toenail> oh ok
[02:13] <holstein> its just adding that rules file
[02:14] <holstein> well, i havent taken the time to install maverick and confirm that it works
[02:14] <holstein> it= the pod
[02:14] <holstein> BUT i can assure you its rockn and rollin in lucid for me
[02:14] <holstein> i tracked a session last night
[02:14] <holstein> 6 tracks
[02:15] <holstein> over 2 hours
[02:15] <holstein> no xruns
[02:15] <holstein> no BS
[02:15] <toenail> nice well i put that command into terminal im gonna reboot and the if it doesnt work try further on the page
[02:15] <holstein> :)
[02:29] <toenail> well like normal its running fine now for the try with ardour
[02:34] <toenail> how do i assign certain tracks to inputs again
[02:34] <toenail> in adour
[02:35] <holstein> you can use the mixer
[02:35] <holstein> in ardour
[02:35] <holstein> i use JACK
[02:35] <holstein> the 'connect' button
[02:36] <toenail> oh i get it
[02:38] <toenail> now in jack it says in 1 in 2 that would be r & L correct
[02:39] <holstein> if thats what you use them as
[02:39] <holstein> you get to decide that
[02:41] <holstein> i usually use 1 as left
[02:42] <toenail> ok , well i just recorded one track doing thunderstruck by acdc just to try it out now track 2
[02:42] <toenail> rythym
[03:04] <toenail> so far its a go
[03:05] <toenail> only thin in ardour is i cant hear both tracks playing back , maybe i setup in jack i forgot
[03:05] <holstein> yeah
[03:05] <holstein> just double check the routing
[03:06] <holstein> i dont think they play if they are armed
[03:06] <toenail> well i dont see the headphone jack in there
[03:06] <toenail> headphone output rather
[03:07] <holstein> oh
[03:07] <holstein> in JACK
[03:07] <toenail> yea
[03:07] <holstein> yeah, the headphone out just monitors whatever is going through the pod
[03:07] <toenail> just 1-8 and spdi out
[03:07] <toenail> which i assume is midi
[03:08] <holstein> when i route to 1 and 2
[03:08] <holstein> thats just in the headphones
[03:08] <toenail> oh well in windows xp in order to play all tracks recorded you had to have the headphone jack pluged in
[03:08] <holstein> the headphones dont get there own JACK entry
[03:09] <holstein> toenail: yeah?
[03:09] <holstein> i used cubase with the pod
[03:09] <holstein> and what i found was the headphone jack just played whatever was being monitored
[03:09] <holstein> whatever was routed to the main outs in cubase
[03:10] <holstein> and i find the same under linux
[03:10] <holstein> i have a headphone distribution amp i use
[03:10] <toenail> oh im using a pa
[03:11] <toenail> soundcard out #2  and pod #6
[03:11] <holstein> your not using JACK?
[03:11] <toenail> no i am but the soundcard and pd are hooked up to a pa system
[03:12] <holstein> OH
[03:12] <holstein> hhee
[03:12] <holstein> i thought pa was pulse audio
[03:12] <holstein> yeah, the pod dont care what your monitoring with
[03:13] <toenail> well the same thing is happening now . if i dont turn up the phones on the pod i cant hear what i recorded and as well the first track i recorded i dont hear
[03:14] <holstein> the phones?
[03:14] <holstein> or the mains?
[03:14] <holstein> theres one output that has no fader
[03:14] <holstein> 'monitor' i think
[03:14] <holstein> the main out is controlled by that main fader
[03:14] <holstein> well, knob ;)
[03:14] <holstein> not fader
[03:14] <toenail> im confused now ?
[03:15] <holstein> on the pod
[03:15] <holstein> you got 'main level'
[03:16] <holstein> and 'phones'
[03:16] <toenail> the head phones jack pluged in the PA is the only way i can hear what i recorded the mixer know has to be turned to playback (10) instead of inputs (0) (volume rating
[03:16] <holstein> OH
[03:16] <holstein> yeah dont do that
[03:16] <toenail> yea the main is on 5
[03:16] <holstein> you want to send from one of the outputs
[03:16] <holstein> on the back
[03:16] <holstein> not the headphone out
[03:16] <holstein> to the PA
[03:16] <holstein> the PA is expecting a line level input
[03:17] <toenail> Pa as in real Pa i have no idea how to use pulse audio and dont have it running
[03:17] <holstein> that would be from the 'main out' or the 'cue out'
[03:17] <holstein> on the back
[03:17] <holstein> toenail: yeah, i understand now
[03:17] <toenail> on brb damn beer its more like a rental drink the piss
[03:17] <holstein> your running from the headphones out to a PA system
[03:18] <toenail> yea ill switch it when i get back
[03:26] <toenail> i have to get a longer wire i accidentally unpluged the pod the the system lagged up
[03:27] <toenail> i did what you said but stilll the same problem
[03:28] <holstein> SO, you took 2 lines
[03:28] <holstein> from the main outs?
[03:28] <holstein> and ran those to the PA ?
[03:29] <toenail> track 8 was recorded 1st then track track 2 and if i move the mixer knob to inputs i can hear track 2 but not track 8 , i can though hear track 8 if i move the knob to playback
[03:30] <toenail> yea i ran main 1 out to the pa
[03:31] <toenail> main cr output
[03:31] <holstein> thats not right
[03:31] <holstein> playback is just that
[03:31] <holstein> playback
[03:32] <holstein> you shouldnt hear anything from the computer over on inputs
[03:32] <holstein> thats not a software setting
[03:32] <holstein> thats in the device
[03:32] <holstein> hardware
[03:32] <toenail> ok i disconnected and im gonna try a different output
[03:33] <holstein> i turn that knob to 'inputs'
[03:33] <holstein> when im setting up
[03:33] <holstein> getting sounds and moving mics around
[03:33] <holstein> i have it all the way over to 'playback'
[03:33] <holstein> when mixing
[03:34] <toenail> yea i did the same when i worked with it in windows but now track 2 doesnt play on playback
[03:34] <toenail> unless i have it on the wrong output i dont know
[03:34] <toenail> cause i did the same setup with Xp and it worked
[03:35] <holstein> OK
[03:35] <holstein> im not sure i follow
[03:35] <holstein> your playing 'track 2'
[03:35] <holstein> and that is routed to both outputs
[03:35] <holstein> in JACK
[03:35] <holstein> 1 and 2?
[03:35] <holstein> coud be a stereo issue
[03:36] <holstein> if you have track 2 routed to only one side
[03:36] <holstein> make sure both of track 2's outs are routed
[03:36] <holstein> one to 1 and the other to 2
[03:36] <holstein> then grab some headphones
[03:36] <holstein> and make sure its there
[03:37] <holstein> THEN move on to the PA monitoring
[03:41] <toenail> ?
[03:41] <toenail> no idea what im doing
[03:41] <holstein> hehe
[03:41] <toenail> i think ill just reinstall windows every 3 months
[03:42] <toenail> i got it running stable now but now another issue then the next and then the next
[03:42] <holstein> just route whatever you want to monitor into the outputs 1 and 2
[03:42] <holstein> plug your guitar back in to track 8
[03:42] <holstein> and route that to both outputs
[03:42] <holstein> put on the phones
[03:42] <holstein> check the signal
[03:42] <holstein> thats what will come out of the main outs
[03:42] <holstein> regardless of the OS
[03:45] <toenail> well with windows its just plug all 8 things in and go apparently its not that with ubuntu studio
[03:45] <toenail> i dont know maybe im just getting to fustrated
[03:46] <holstein> hey, took me a while
[03:46] <holstein> there is nothing like JACK though
[03:46] <holstein> i mean, i think there is a windows version
[03:46] <holstein> BUT all the linux software just talks to JACK
[03:46] <holstein> too easy
[03:46] <toenail> as you can see its taken me a while to and im on step 2
[03:47] <holstein> lol
[03:47] <holstein> i spent more like 2 years dual booting ;)
[03:47] <holstein> with a WUBI install
[03:47] <holstein> trying to get the firepod to work at all
[03:48] <holstein> trying linux in my spare time
[03:48] <holstein> i had it on a laptop already
[03:48] <holstein> that i was using for day to day stuff
[03:48] <holstein> to get used to it
[03:48] <toenail> yea thats the thing i like linux because its more stable but but have much freetime todo all this stuff just to get one device working
[03:49] <holstein> you got it working now :)
[03:49] <holstein> no drivers to install
[03:49] <toenail> yea i think im just a retard with add
[03:49] <toenail> ha
[03:49] <holstein> hehe
[03:49] <holstein> nah
[03:49] <holstein> its challening for sure
[03:50] <holstein> i remember when i wiped the studio machine
[03:50] <holstein> i was running 64studio then
[03:50] <holstein> felt great
[03:50] <holstein> like i had bought a bunch of new stuff
[03:50] <holstein> XP and cubase worked fine though
[03:51] <holstein> i just wanted more functionality and options
[03:51] <holstein> and the perfomance was better i thought
[03:51] <holstein> with JACK
[03:51] <toenail> yea im a big ediot though for running ubuntu 6.10 then going back into windows instead of just running ubuntu and figuring it out
[03:52] <holstein> 6.10 was quite different
[03:52] <holstein> old school :)
[03:52] <toenail> yea that was about 5 years ago
[03:52] <toenail> thats the last time i ran it
[03:53] <toenail> i know i got something wrong though for the jack setup i got a screenshot
[03:55] <toenail> im sending it to you now
[03:56] <holstein> toenail: i'll try to get screenies of my setup for you next time im in the studio
[03:57] <toenail> ok take a look at mine im sure you'll find something wrong thogh
[03:57] <toenail> though*
[03:57] <holstein> sure
[03:58] <holstein> yeah, i can remember most of it
[03:59] <toenail> ok im trying to send the file ; don't know if you see it
[03:59] <holstein> OK
[03:59] <holstein> OH
[03:59] <holstein> yeah, you might have to pastebin it
[03:59] <holstein> http://imagebin.org/
[03:59] <holstein> if you dont mind
[03:59] <holstein> im running on a server
[04:00] <holstein> and i turned off DCC's
[04:02] <toenail> no problem its a trojan anyways ha no here ya you go http://imagebin.org/123730
[04:03] <holstein> hehe
[04:03] <holstein> toenail: what is that hp icon?
[04:04] <toenail> its for the printer its the only way i got it working hp printer
[04:04] <holstein> cool
[04:05] <holstein> i dont know what that 000a9 so on is all about
[04:05] <toenail> audio 3 was input 8 (hense me calling its track 8) and audio 3 was track 2 really input 2 on the pod
[04:05] <holstein> i dont have that
[04:06] <toenail> hmm i also wondered if our looking input 1 & 2 are the same which it should be cause if i plug all 8 in then i'd assume that the track would be f--ed up
[04:07] <holstein> i'll have to get some screens for you
[04:07] <toenail> i think 00a9 is just the hardware address
[04:07] <holstein> yeah
[04:07] <holstein> but i dont have them
[04:07] <toenail> weird
[04:07] <holstein> toenail: is that an FP10?
[04:07] <holstein> or an older firepod?
[04:08] <toenail> miht be older i think
[04:08] <toenail> night*
[04:08] <holstein> suppose to be the same ive heard
[04:08] <toenail> Might*
[04:08] <holstein> yeah, thats what i got
[04:08] <holstein> you might want to check
[04:08] <holstein> next time your in windows
[04:08] <holstein> and flash the firmware
[04:08] <toenail> its got the 8 inputs in front then the midi in back
[04:08] <toenail> i dont have windows installed anmore
[04:08] <toenail> anymore*
[04:08] <holstein> toenail: says 'firepod' on it?
[04:09] <toenail> yea
[04:09] <holstein> yeah, thats it
[04:09] <holstein> the new ones say FP10
[04:09] <toenail> oh ok
[04:09] <holstein> there was a really good firmware update
[04:09] <holstein> added some functionality
[04:09] <toenail> in ubu studio
[04:09] <toenail> ?
[04:10] <holstein> the OS on the pod
[04:10] <holstein> the firmware
[04:11] <toenail> oh i have no idea on how to update it , yet my router is  different story
[04:11] <toenail> more beer exiting the system be right back
[04:13] <toenail> back
[04:14] <holstein> i got distracted by http://www.presonus.com/news/press/Detail.aspx?NewsID=76
[04:14] <holstein> trying to find the firmware updater
[04:14] <holstein> i was going to see if it would run in wine
[04:17] <toenail> ah so by a new one for the same price and send back the old one for a refund of 200
[04:18] <holstein> old ad though
[04:18] <toenail> yea
[04:18] <holstein> and i dont think FFADO supports that one
[04:19] <toenail> but basically spend 1000 and get a new one 200 refund
[04:19] <toenail> yea probly not
[04:21] <toenail> also as far as wine i don't have it installed
[04:23] <toenail> you ever use Goldwave for windows its a real simple program but i've been using it for 10 years and its nice i ran it once with wine bu 6.10 and it didnt work but do you think theres a program like it now or you think it would work with this studio ubuntu version
[04:23] <toenail> also good new no crashing yet on the system jacks been running the whole time thanks again
[04:24] <holstein> is it like soundforge?
[04:24] <holstein> like audacity?
[04:24] <toenail> better then audiocity
[04:24] <toenail> http://www.goldwave.com/
[04:25] <holstein> there are a ton of editors
[04:25] <holstein> http://www.renoise.com/ is a commercial one
[04:25] <holstein> looks interesting
[04:25] <holstein> i checked out the demo
[04:25] <toenail> nevermind i found some stuff with wine and it
[04:26] <holstein> yeah, wineHQ or whatever
[04:26] <holstein> alright... V time
[04:27] <holstein> i got disc 2 in the mail
[04:27] <holstein> ...bbl
[12:10] <ghostwheel> is there a vst enabled package of ardour floating around somewhere?
[12:46] <ghostwheel> is there a vst enabled package of ardour floating around somewhere?
[17:22] <domjohnson> Hello
[17:22] <domjohnson> Anyone know any graphics tablets that are fully supported in Linux/Ubuntu/Ubuntu Studio?
[19:16] <domjohnson> *Anyone know any A5 or bigger tablets that are fully supported in Linux and cost £250 or less?
[19:17] <domjohnson> Are the trust tablets supported?