[00:27] <bipolar> Sonsee: You would have to setup the sudo command you want to run in the sudoers file so it doesn't require a password.
[00:28] <Sonsee> bipolar: I've solved this issue. I have now another question. Command emerald --replace is in script which is in .kde/Autostart. But it crashes and Compiz starts just fine. Any suggestions?
[00:29] <Sonsee> if I run "by hands" it works
[00:29] <bipolar> Sonsee: not really... but is there a reason kwin doesn't do what you need?
[00:30] <Sonsee> bipolar it does not have the effects of minimizing and etc. that compiz does. Maybe I'm wrong?
[00:31] <bipolar> Sonsee: I think it does.
[00:31] <Sonsee> ok. all what I have in Desktop Effects is one effect which I don't like. So how can I install additional effects?
[00:32] <Sonsee> I mean minimize and maximaze windows effect
[00:33] <bipolar> I don't know for sure. I barely use the effects. If it's not listed under the 'all effects' tab I don't think I can help you.
[00:33] <Sonsee> So, there you go ;)
[00:34] <bipolar> I sure wouln't mess with replacing kwin just for a couple effects though. the integration is really tight.
[00:34] <Sonsee> I would :)
[00:34] <bipolar> Also, I'm running Lucid, so I'm a version behind.
[00:35] <Sonsee> I hate gnome, but I love the effects of compiz. So, I don't a compromise here ...
[00:36] <Sonsee> *see
[01:15] <dennister> does anyone know how to retrieve old IRC logs?
[02:12] <Roxy_> if i use openoffice and i send a file to someone that is using microsoft word would they be able to view it?
[02:16] <vinny> I think the short answer is yes....OOO lets you save in several file typs
[02:16] <anand> how cai i download vlc player for kubuntu
[02:18] <vinny> anand: I believe it's in the repos ...hold I see witch one maby
[02:18] <Roxy_> vinny: oh yea...file type... have to be saved as a .doc right? *loosing her mind*
[02:19] <vinny> Roxy_: ya that's right :)
[02:20] <anand> is der is any way to spped up my dialup connection in kubuntu??
[02:21] <Roxy_> vinny:  thankies! *jumps for joy* things are slowy comming back to me now...
[02:23] <vinny> Roxy_: tested it that fast ? or just remembered!
[02:26] <vinny> anand: vlc-1.0.6-1ubuntu1.2 (lucid-updates)
[02:26] <Roxy_> vinny: lol just remembered....been awhile since i did anything with openoffice or word.
[02:26] <Roxy_> last thing i thought of was the file thing lol
[02:27] <vinny> LOL
[02:46] <NvN> ho
[02:46] <NvN> hello
[02:58] <bipolar> Can anyone tell me how to control what desktop widgets are loaded on the users desktop by default? I'm working in a corporate environment and I can't be adding/removing widgets every time I add a user to the system.
[03:55] <marcelo> fedora is better
[03:57] <Torch> marcelo: and that's the best you can do?
[03:57] <marcelo> :(
[04:02] <claydoh> bipolar: I think there is scripting available to contol that
[04:02] <claydoh> bipolar: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting
[04:03] <claydoh> but you may want to ask in #kubuntu-devel or perhaps #plasma
[04:04]  * Torch notes that whatever is shown on the desktop on first login will be determined by the default plasma config for a new user.
[05:49] <pushkaraj> does ubuntu dvd contains kde ?
[05:54] <Torch> pushkaraj: the kubuntu one does.
[05:56] <pushkaraj> was just wondering where could i get the package list of compilation for the dvd and cd?
[06:15] <walker> hi everybody, where's the dang upgrade mngr in 8.10?
[06:17] <walker> anybody know if it's safe to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.4?
[06:18] <hrna> why not to go straight to 10.04 ?
[06:19] <walker> all the instructions I've seen say go only one step at a time, then the next
[06:20] <hrna> well, that's true
[06:20] <walker> an I can't afford to screw up right now
[06:20] <hrna> screwing up is what no one likes to do
[06:20] <walker> are you sure?
[06:21] <walker> I thought hackers loved their problems
[06:21] <hrna> for sure i dont
[06:21] <walker> me neither, I just want the dang thing to work
[06:22] <walker> I don't mind putting in some effort, that's what it's all about, but jeez
[06:23] <hrna> i dont know if it is just me, but i feel like 10.04 was a lot more stable (at least on my machine) than 10.10, i experience a lot of crashes with kwin and sometimes kdm just decide to restart throwing me out from my current session...
[06:23] <hrna> it's really frustrating for example if you're doing something important at that moment
[06:23] <walker> well I don't know, but I get the feeling that hardware has it's preferences
[06:24] <hrna> hmm
[06:25] <hrna> i shouldnt have anything wrong with my hardware
[06:25] <walker> some machines seem to want to stay with older versions
[06:25] <hrna> or then it just dont fit with mine
[06:25] <walker> yeah
[06:25] <DarthFrog> hrna: I've not experienced any such glitches as you describe.  Sounds like you have an adverse interaction in your system somewhere, something that would lead to the description that walker made about hardware.
[06:26] <DarthFrog> hrna: What video card do you have and what drivers are you using?
[06:26] <hrna> DarthFrog, gf9500 with nvidia 260.x drivers
[06:26] <hrna> from repositories
[06:27] <DarthFrog> that's an older card, isn't it?
[06:27] <hrna> this all began after the update to 10.10 (propably KDE4.5.x
[06:27] <hrna> )
[06:27] <hrna> it's a bit older yes
[06:27] <DarthFrog> Have you tried using older drivers?
[06:27] <hrna> no i havent
[06:28] <DarthFrog> Actually, if it were me, I'd try the 2d nv driver and see if that removed the problem.  If so, you know that the problem is likely with the video driver.
[06:29] <hrna> it might be the video driver, havent been facing any of these problems while running without compositing
[06:30] <DarthFrog> Hang on a sec, isn't the nVidia 9500 card one of the ones that nVidia put out with a missing layer on the CPU fabrication?
[06:30] <hrna> i've got no idea
[06:30] <hrna> maybe i will just go and buy something "modern" piece of hardware
[06:31] <DarthFrog> It's worth researching.  nVIdia cheaped out a few years back and tried to get away with an inferior fabbing that omitted a layer.  The resultant cards that used these chips are very prone to overheating and failure.
[06:35] <hrna> so you are saying that it might be caused by overheating or just plain failure to produce good chip for my use
[06:35] <hrna> as far as i know, the temp. havent got too high, the max i've seen is +55c
[06:36] <DarthFrog> It's a possibility.
[06:36] <DarthFrog> If you have one of the bum chips, then you can expect more and more flaky behaviour from it as it ages.
[06:37] <hrna> im going to bank today to close my old account and also withdrawing the money from my old savings account, i might go straight to buy new graphics card :P
[06:37] <DarthFrog> I recall HP and Apple having to alter/extend warranties because of nVidia's fsck-up.
[06:38] <hrna> DarthFrog, so, i nVidia still shipping out this junk?
[06:38] <hrna> is*
[06:38] <DarthFrog> Well, get a new card if you want but be aware that doing so might not solve the problem.
[06:38] <hrna> have to try older drivers first
[06:39] <walker> do you have any spare different cards around to test it
[06:39] <hrna> i have my old radeon 2400hd or whatever it is
[06:39] <DarthFrog> I doubt it.  They were very heavily criticised at the time.  I expected the company to fold over the issue and am surprised they didn't.  Naturally enough in this day and age, they refused to admit there was any problem whatsoever.
[06:39] <hrna> but it's not usable with KDE
[06:39] <DarthFrog> Why not?
[06:40] <DarthFrog> AMD is very well supported in Linux these days.  I have a Radeon 5770 and it works great in Kubuntu.
[06:40] <hrna> ok have to admit that it was in my older machine, it just fucked up everything if compositing was turned on
[06:41] <DarthFrog> !language
[06:41] <hrna> ops
[06:41] <DarthFrog> Give your old AMD card a shot.  You can always take it out again. :-)
[06:42] <hrna> anyhow, it was annoying so i went and got nVidia
[06:42] <DarthFrog> Yeah, AMD used to really suck with Linux.  I have a Radeon 9850 gathering dust that I was never able to use properly.
[06:43] <hrna> this card is quite a bit old as well
[06:44] <hrna> at that time it didnt even have appropriate drivers
[06:44] <DarthFrog> If it worked well in 10.04 you could always go back to that version.  It is a LTS afterall.
[06:45] <hrna> or maybe im just looking for enough good reason to buy a new graphics card
[06:45] <hrna> been planning for a while already
[06:45] <hrna> but i will just try out older drivers
[06:46] <DarthFrog> Worth a shot.
[06:48] <walker> I think I would like to get newer machines with intel i5 or i7
[06:48] <walker> getting tired of the struggle
[06:49] <DarthFrog> What do you have now?
[06:50] <hrna> or maybe i could try out newer drivers as well, there's a mention that they've fixed several bugs causing opengl applications to crash etc.
[06:51] <walker> built a new celeron pc with low cost Gigabyte board
[06:51] <DarthFrog> They come with a money-back guarantee. :-)
[06:51] <walker> I'm ok for now
[06:52] <walker> but I want to upgrade to kubuntu 10.10 so I can use newer kde and kexi
[06:53] <walker> I caint find good intel on how the upgrade will go
[06:54] <walker> anybody know where good instructions are for going from 8.10 to 9.4 ?
[06:54] <DarthFrog> walker: Then don't upgrade.  Instead do a new install on a separate partition and run them side-by-side.
[06:54] <walker> What?
[06:54] <walker> o ok
[06:54] <walker> that's a thought
[06:55] <walker> DarthFrog: good idea
[06:56] <DarthFrog> It doesn't commit you, you still have your old working system to fall back upon.
[06:56] <walker> yep
[06:56] <DarthFrog> Do you have a separate /home partition?
[06:56] <walker> an I will still get to use the new stuff
[06:57] <walker> no this machine is all bunched up
[06:57] <DarthFrog> OK.  I was thinking that 8.10 was a KDE 3.5 version.  I couldn't remember.
[06:58] <DarthFrog> In which case you'd have to jump through some hoops to share that partition between 8.10 and 10.10
[06:59] <DarthFrog> But if it's a KDE 4.x version, there'd be no problem.
[06:59] <walker> hoop jumpin
[07:25] <hrna> alright, it seems that ubuntu repositories had not updated the nvidia drivers, they were still old and somewhat 5 days ago were released new set of drivers with bunch of fixes, let see if this is going to help me out
[07:37] <hrna> anyone upgraded flashplayer from repositories and running kubuntu 64bit? i just did and now flash isnt working
[07:54] <raynop> hello
[07:55] <raynop> I am new to linux and are amazed at what I am seeing
[07:56] <raynop> is there anyone here that perhaps can assist me in the installation of linuxmce?
[07:56] <HRPufnstuf> linux is cool, what distro you got?
[07:57] <raynop> kde 10.10
[07:57] <raynop> er, sorry kubuntu 10.10
[07:57] <HRPufnstuf> that's the desktop environment, not the distro
[07:57] <HRPufnstuf> yea
[07:57] <bigbrovar> raynop: your best best would be the #linuxmce channel
[07:58] <raynop> thank you very much
[07:58] <raynop> it is frustrating to learn linux as I am too used to ms
[07:58] <raynop> but slowly but surely I am learning the ropes
[07:58] <HRPufnstuf> linux has a long learning curve, 6 months - 1 year
[07:59] <bigbrovar> most of us have been there
[07:59] <bigbrovar> I started my own journey 2007 and I have never looked back since
[08:00] <HRPufnstuf> 1999 was my fist go at it, Slackware, then Debian
[08:00] <HRPufnstuf> manual instals and had to know everything about your hardware
[08:00] <raynop> I have to admit, I am very impressed with the desktop etc
[08:01] <raynop> but, getting used to dong everything in the konsole, eish
[08:01] <bigbrovar> HRPufnstuf: wow thats like 100 years in computer time. I does it feel looking back at all the progress that has been made?
[08:01] <raynop> *doing
[08:01] <HRPufnstuf> command line commands is alot to learn
[08:01] <bigbrovar> I mean I started during the Linux desktop / mainstream insurgence . I missed the good ol days
[08:02] <HRPufnstuf> bigbrovar: The boys have been busy. It's become the elite OS.
[08:02] <bigbrovar> yeah I really wished I had started linux then. I started when things started getting better and GUI became more matured removing the need for cli
[08:02] <bigbrovar> what DE did you start with?
[08:02] <raynop> what I like about it is the good pubplicity linux got when ms marketed the last two mistakes :)
[08:03] <HRPufnstuf> I'm still a newbie, really, just played around with many distros over the years, but I struggle still.
[08:03] <HRPufnstuf> DE ???
[08:03] <raynop> may I ask questions on how to do things I can't get working in this channel?
[08:04] <bigbrovar> Desktop Enviroment
[08:04] <HRPufnstuf> I like playing with python too.
[08:04] <bigbrovar> raynop: sure u can.
[08:04] <caldera> hi!
[08:04] <HRPufnstuf> oh, goodness. I used X, gnome, KDE, Flux, all the old ones.
[08:05] <bigbrovar> caldera: hi
[08:06] <bigbrovar> I have tried all the major distros too. never really been a fan of the slim distros my expectations are always too much. so I rather have the hardware and use the big boys instead
[08:07] <HRPufnstuf> My fave distro was Zenwalk
[08:07] <caldera> hi!
[08:07] <caldera> some version of amsn or pidgi compatible with Kubuntu 8.04?
[08:07] <bigbrovar> started with gnome, had a brief stint with xfce went back to gnome then kde.. in between I have tried openbox, flux, icewm etc
[08:08] <bigbrovar> caldera: I think there is a amsn version for kubuntu 8.04
[08:08] <HRPufnstuf> bigbrovar: yea, I played around with all those DE's, too. KDE is best imho
[08:09] <bigbrovar> yep and I cant wait too see what kde 4.6 has to offer. there seem to be more about stabilization than features this days.
[08:09] <bigbrovar> and more and more areas are being fixed. like the new printing manager I heard kicks behinds
[08:10] <bigbrovar> and also  kwin got lots of smoothings, but for me the biggest expectation is kmail2
[08:10] <caldera> bigbrovar, can you give me the link please?
[08:10] <caldera> Escuchar
[08:10] <caldera> Leer fonéticamente
[08:10] <bigbrovar> caldera: just sudo apt-get install amsn ?
[08:11] <bigbrovar> u can always search amsn from synaptic or adept as the case may be
[08:12] <caldera> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:12] <caldera>   amsn: Depends: tcltls but it is not going to be installed
[08:12] <caldera> E: Broken packages
[08:12] <caldera> help me
[08:14] <bigbrovar> caldera: u have to first do a sudo apt-get update
[08:14] <bigbrovar> it seems to me that some repositories are not enabled
[08:16] <caldera> ok
[08:16] <caldera> I'll try
[08:16] <caldera> thanks!
[08:33] <caldera> please, also i need that help me to install flash player.
[08:33] <caldera> my browser is firefox 3.6 on kubuntu 8.04
[08:43] <jussi> caldera: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:46] <caldera> I have done so, but the browser keeps asking me the plugin
[08:46] <jussi> caldera: have you restarted the browser since installing the plugin?
[08:49] <caldera> That I did, but I can not even watch videos!
[08:51] <caldera> still tells me to install the missing plugin
[08:51] <caldera> juddi
[08:51] <caldera> jussi
[08:51] <caldera> still tells me to install the missing plugin
[08:52] <jussi> !tab | caldera
[08:53] <jussi> caldera: Im not sure then. sounds strange
[08:54] <caldera> ok, anyway thanks!
[08:54] <raynop> if I want to run mythtv, do download and install it or is there a away that I can enable it in kde?
[08:57] <moetunes>  there's a mythtv channel if noone here knows raynop
[08:58] <raynop> thanx
[08:59] <ikonia> raynop mythtv has apackage, just download the package and it wil do it all for you
[08:59] <raynop> thank you
[09:00] <ikonia> raynop: myth actually works better on KDE than gnome
[09:00] <raynop> ah, I have the new kubuntu 10.10, so it will work beautifully then
[09:01] <raynop> sorry for all of the questions :)
[09:01] <ikonia> raynop: should be fine
[09:01] <raynop> which linux distro is the best for local and internet based ftp servers? freenas?
[09:01] <ikonia> there isn't a "best"
[09:01] <ikonia> any will do fine
[09:01] <ikonia> it's how you set them up
[09:02] <raynop> thanx, I thought there might be one specifically created for the task
[09:04] <ikonia> no
[09:04] <ikonia> keep in mind this channel only support kubuntu
[09:08] <caldera> as I can add this channel #kubuntu-es
[09:08] <caldera> ?
[09:11] <moetunes> there's ubuntu-es
[09:11] <moetunes> !es
[09:16] <caldera> Gracias! <ubottu>
[10:24] <shadeslayer> ok so if there are any people on lucid who have backports enabled, a friendly warning.... Do NOT upgrade right now, im copying KDE 4.5.3 to backports ppa
[10:30] <stephan_> is there somting like zvim ?
[10:31] <shadeslayer> !find zvim
[10:31] <shadeslayer> dont think so ^^
[10:32] <stephan_> i need to edit .gz.xxx files, vim opens .gz files, but not .gz.xxx files
[10:36] <shadeslayer> ( and i meant backports PPA :) )
[11:11] <defihu> Dear all, it might be a lame question but I can not send emails since i have reinstalled Kubuntu. I am behind a dlink dir-635 router, but I have not change anything in its config. Kmail tells me that socket operation timed out. I have tried to telnet to port 25 on the mail server but that does not work, while it works from a computer on an other network.
[12:16] <petr> hi
[12:17] <Guest835> hello guys, I installed kubuntu 10.10 .... now my sound system does not work. Also I installed new motherboard.  Please, tell me what is wrong ?
[12:17] <shadeslayer> Guest835: hi
[12:17] <Guest835> this is my motherboard  http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2961#ov
[12:18] <shadeslayer> possibly bad connections on the MoBo?
[12:19] <Guest835> in specification of MoBo I can see following thing:
[12:19] <Guest835>    1. Realtek ALC883 codec
[12:19] <Guest835>    2. High Definition Audio
[12:19] <Guest835>    3. 2/4/5.1/7.1-channel (Note)
[12:19] <Guest835>    4. Support for S/PDIF Out
[12:19] <Guest835>    5. Support for CD In
[12:19] <FloodBotK2> Guest835: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <FloodBotK1> Guest835: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:21] <Guest835> I have just 3 connectors for my sound system.... and I inputed green thing in all of them....  but I do not  heart sound
[12:22] <Guest835> *hear
[12:22] <Guest835> *heard
[12:30] <Guest835> allo!!
[12:30] <Guest835> help
[12:30] <shadeslayer> Guest835: sorry no idea
[12:30] <shadeslayer> maybe #ubuntu has a idea
[12:31] <shadeslayer> and it probably has to do with your Motherboard
[12:31] <Guest835> shadeslayer: man....  did you see my motherboard?
[12:32] <shadeslayer> even if i looked at it, im sure i wouldnt know how to fix your issue
[12:33] <Guest835> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2961#sp
[12:34] <Guest835> shadeslayer:  in theory have I apropriate mitherboard?  Should they support audio?
[12:35] <shadeslayer> yes, but the kernels modules might not support your hardware
[12:35] <shadeslayer> and i have no idea on how to make those work
[12:35] <Guest835> shadeslayer:  what is this?
[12:35] <shadeslayer> Guest835: Kernel Modules are device drivers for your Hardware
[12:36] <Guest835> my old motherboard supported this!!!  and sound was fine
[12:36] <Guest835> my hardwere is just defender sound system
[12:38] <shadeslayer> the problem is not your Motherboard! its the fact that the kernel might not have drivers for this
[12:38] <shadeslayer> !sound | Guest835
[12:39] <shadeslayer> please read that
[12:46] <Guest835> )))))
[12:46] <Guest835> YES
[12:47] <Guest835> shadeslayer  ....  "Double click on the "speaker" icon in the upper right hand corner of the screen." ....  so...  my sound was disabled
[12:48] <Guest835> thanks for link
[13:30] <skafti_> hey does someone know how to deal with "stalled" ktorrent???
[13:45] <austro_tom> #mythtv-users
[13:47] <Guest11400> how do i change the default status of kopete?
[13:48] <Guest11400> how do i change the default status of kopete?
[13:48] <Guest11400> i want to appear offline when i login to windows live account
[13:48] <Guest11400> how do i change the default status of kopete?
[13:49] <skafti_> hey does someone know how to deal with "stalled" ktorrent???
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Guest11400, click on status and change it there
[13:50] <BluesKaj> skafti_, stalled download?
[13:50] <Guest11400> will it remain as the status i set the next time i start up kopete?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> if you leave kopete without quitting it , yes
[13:51] <Guest11400> hey i changed it to invisible but when i restart kopete the status became online again
[13:51] <Guest11400> how can i make it permanent?
[13:53] <Guest11400> how can i get an invisible status each time i start kopete?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Guest11400, maybe if you asked in #kopete
[14:00] <skafti_> yep
[14:01] <skafti_> know how to fix
[14:14] <BluesKaj> skafti_, it's not ktorrent that's responsible , it's the trackers that find the sources torrents, and if nobody is  'seeding' the file then it's not available
[14:15] <BluesKaj> skafti_, click on the peers tab and you'll see the source files available and if they are bing uploaded bythe seeders
[14:16] <BluesKaj> skafti_, also for more info join #ktorrent
[14:20] <skafti_> Thanks alot Blueskaj
[14:28] <BluesKaj> skafti_, pls join #ktorrent , they can advise you better
[14:28] <skafti_> am joint no one there answering :)
[14:29] <skafti_> 5 in there
[14:36] <BluesKaj> skafti_, there should be a dropdown list in the ktorent browser to differnt trackers where you can searech , an alternative is to use your browserand when you choose a toreent then you should get a dialog asking if you want to use ktorrent to DL the file
[14:41] <BluesKaj> skafti_, http://maketecheasier.com/ktorrent-kdes-bittorrent-client/2010/02/08
[14:53] <napier> Hi I need console commands for kubuntu system will not ask me the password for the wiffi in ubuntu only with to do click for all users can do it but kubuntu does not show that option
[14:56] <BluesKaj> napier, check network manager oprions for global access
[14:56] <BluesKaj> err options
[14:56] <napier> blueskaj, ok
[15:04] <napier> blueskaj i cant find this option for global access in kubuntu 10.10
[15:07] <BluesKaj> http://mydailyhash.wordpress.com/2010/10/11/ubuntu-10-10-maverick-meerkat-network-problem/ , napier
[15:11] <BluesKaj> napier, or maybe these ppl can help  ##networking
[15:11] <napier> ok
[15:33] <caldera> #ubuntu.es
[16:06] <surunveri> Hi :D
[16:07] <surunveri> is there a program that measures pitch of sounds through microphone for linux? :d
[16:07] <urgen> there's probably five or six
[16:08] <surunveri> i think i've tried all teh wrong keywords for google and couldnt find it :D
[16:09] <surunveri> Any suggestion ?:D
[16:12] <urgen> I was looking for the page that had a compiled list of audio tools for linux
[16:12] <urgen> searching my history, etc
[16:12] <urgen> got distracted reading about the new planet
[16:12] <urgen> The planet, dubbed HIP-13044b, is believed to be about 1.25 times larger than Jupiter, in our own solar system.
[16:12] <urgen> like a stray cat planet
[16:14] <urgen> http://apps.linuxaudio.org/apps/categories/scopes_and_realtime_visualizers
[16:14] <urgen> http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Multimedia/Scopes/
[16:15] <urgen> or were you looking for a guitar tuner or something like that?
[16:17] <Space_Man> urgen: another new planet in our solar system?
[16:17] <Space_Man> where are we going to fit them all??
[16:18] <urgen> it is a lost planet from a system ours ate a long time ago
[16:18] <urgen> I'm hoping for alien tech
[16:18] <urgen> ;-)
[16:18] <urgen> what a great scifi story
[16:18] <Space_Man> or a stable desktop
[16:18]  * Space_Man runs
[16:18] <urgen> hehe
[16:40] <akSeya> guys, i'm using linux at work. We have here an AD Domain.. every time I try to open a shared folder on any computer, i get asked for my domain username and password. I want to keep using my normal linux username to login, but save the domain username for all shares.. is there a way to do that?
[17:12] <crissi> hello
[17:12] <crissi> i still have the problem with hanging ssh connections under maverick.. any ideas what is the problem at 10.10?
[17:13] <moetunes> you could use the -v switch to get some more info on what's happening
[17:17] <crissi> mostly i giot broken pipe or the conenction stucks simply after some minutes
[17:17] <crissi> its a problem of 10.10 10.04 works fine and other machines with debian too
[17:18] <crissi> there must be something changed with ssh client
[17:18] <moetunes> is it the nic starting to fail on that comp?
[17:18] <crissi> since 10.04
[17:18] <crissi> heh?
[17:18] <crissi> no
[17:18] <crissi> i'm working the whoole time in lan...
[17:18] <crissi> and internet too
[17:18] <crissi> only ssh sucks
[17:18] <FloodBotK2> crissi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:18] <moetunes> k
[17:18] <FloodBotK1> crissi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:19] <crissi> FloodBotK1: goaway
[17:20] <crissi> its very hard to work if the ssh connections broke down evry 10-20 minutes
[17:20] <crissi> its should be keepalive
[17:21] <DarthFrog> crissi: Is that with every SSH connection to different servers?
[17:21] <crissi> such problems should be solved _before_ release.. kaverick is out a while and its still not fixed... what a bad thinh
[17:21] <crissi> thing
[17:21] <crissi> DarthFrog: yes
[17:21] <DarthFrog> Cuz I have SSH connections that are idle for days but are still alive, in 10.10
[17:22] <crissi> i have 4 server and all the same problem
[17:22] <moetunes> same here so it must be something local
[17:22] <crissi> but the problem is not at server side, it works with other clients fine
[17:22] <moetunes> so it's the comp you are using to connect with
[17:23] <crissi> yes, 10.10
[17:23] <crissi> the machine is ok, worked with 9.04, 0.10, 10.04
[17:23] <crissi> there must be something wrong with 10.10
[17:24] <crissi> 00:05.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 Ethernet (rev a5)
[17:24] <darthanubis> where is the samba server installed this time?
[17:24] <darthanubis> why move it from /etc/init.d?
[17:25] <crissi> but lan and internet connections are still fine
[17:25] <crissi> i use xo redirection for example
[17:25] <crissi> x
[17:25] <moetunes> crissi:  it seems it is only happening to you
[17:25] <crissi> no
[17:26] <crissi> if you look at bugtracker you will find more ppl
[17:27] <moetunes> well if it a bug what do you expect
[17:27] <crissi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/641657
[17:27] <darthanubis> that being said how does   one restet the smaba server now?
[17:27] <darthanubis> and no restart samba does not work
[17:28] <moetunes> sudo service samba restart maybe
[17:28] <crissi> moetunes: that the bug will be fixed
[17:28] <crissi> in nearly future
[17:28] <crissi> ~ 5 days
[17:30] <moetunes> I'm sure it will be fixed but who knows when - all you can do is keep an eye on launchpad
[17:30] <crissi> i'll do... that was the reason i wrote a comment there
[17:31] <Roxy_> my computer soomething up with it i dont know what to do..... http://imagebin.ca/view/yUcAn7h1.html  the panels are doing that and it seems like after so long the whole computer freezes
[17:31] <moetunes> it can be frustrating when a bug hits..
[17:33] <crissi> i tried also to set ServerAliveInterval 20 in ssh_config but it does not healp :(
[17:34] <walker> I need to upgrade 8.10 to 9.4 anybody know a good blog or article on this
[17:35] <moetunes> 9.04 is end of life iirc
[17:35] <dasKreech> !jaunty
[17:36] <walker> I know but I need to go through each release to get to 10.10
[17:36] <dasKreech> walker: upgrade to jaunty but you'll probably be updated to Karmic directly
[17:37] <walker> I need to upgrade 8.10 to 9.4 anybody know a good blog or article on this
[17:38] <walker> ubottu: what is !eol and !upgrade ?
[17:39] <moetunes> !upgrade
[17:39] <DarthFrog> walker: eol is end of life.
[17:39] <DarthFrog> !eol | walker
[17:39] <walker> ubottu: been there,
[17:40] <DarthFrog> walker: It's a bot. :-)
[17:41] <DarthFrog> walker: Personally, I think you're too far behind to do an upgrade.  Why not just do a new install?
[17:43] <walker> DarthFrog: I have my reasons
[17:44] <DarthFrog> walker: Sure, no problem.   Can you get CDs/DVDs of the intermediate releases and do upgrades from them?
[17:45] <walker> DarthFrog: A while back I had to revert to 7.x-s because the apps wouldn't keep up with the changes,
[17:45] <walker> now the apps have caught up and I need to interate forward
[17:45] <walker> I have been able to do this so far
[17:46] <molly1> ciao
[17:46] <molly1> !lista
[17:47] <DarthFrog> !it|molly1
[17:48] <walker> but 8.10 has a version of Adept that is not friendly to me, I need an article that will talk about good command line stuff
[17:48] <walker> on this particular issue of upgrading 8.10 to 9.4 I think
[17:51] <DarthFrog> walker: Have you gone through the EOL Upgrades web page posted above?  It specifically covers upgrading from 8.10
[18:14] <molly1> !list
[18:33] <velio> hello everybody
[18:33] <napier> Hi, I have installed the googleearth works in kubuntu but for example when you click on the link or community forums and blogs googleearth googleearth map closes ,nobody knows about googleearth if work very well in kubuntu 10.10?
[18:33] <dasKreech> hi
[18:34] <dasKreech> napier: Might ask in #ubuntu to see. it should work the same in both and more people would have it there
[18:34] <dasKreech> Lots of folks just use marble
[18:37] <napier> daskreek in ubuntu i had the same problem with googleearth  for kubuntu 10.10, but with ubuntu-tweak i can to have solution
[18:39] <dasKreech> What does the tweak do?
[18:43] <napier> daskreech, googleearth was installed very well with ubuntu-tweak but for kubuntu i cant do it
[18:44] <MadRobot> Hi all
[18:44] <dasKreech> ok napier i was asking what does ubuntu-tweak do? just the install for googleearth?
[18:45] <MadRobot> If I installed OpenOffice from a DEB package over my already installed OpenOffice, will the new installation replace the older one?
[18:46] <napier> i first  installed the medibuntu repository
[18:47] <napier> and then with ubuntu-tweak googleearth
[18:47] <napier> daskreech
[18:47] <dasKreech> MadRobot: likely not. OO.o almost always installs in /opt
[18:47] <napier> this was for ubuntu lucid
[18:47] <dasKreech> napier: run it from the command line and see if it throws an error
[18:47] <MadRobot> dasKreech: I see.
[18:48] <napier> daskreeck
[18:48] <napier> ok
[18:48] <MadRobot> dasKreech: So, do I suggest I remove the current installation before installing the new one?
[18:49] <MadRobot> do *you* suggest
[18:49]  * dasKreech shrugs
[18:49] <dasKreech> No harm in having both
[18:49] <dasKreech> If you install the new one and like it you can simply put it as a higher priority than the one installed
[18:50] <dasKreech> you can remove the old one and then swap back if you don't like the new one
[18:50] <MadRobot> dasKreech: Yeah. Well, it's just that I have this weird problem with OOo, I'm not sure it's appropriate to say it here, though.
[18:50] <dasKreech> it's a support chan
[18:51] <dasKreech> or is it always auto inserting pics from your Umm ahem personal collection ?
[18:51] <MadRobot> dasKreech: No, it's not about pics.
[18:52] <MadRobot> dasKreech: I am trying to add make the "righ-to-left" button visible on the tool bar, but it never appears.
[18:53] <dasKreech> where does it go?
[18:54] <napier> daskreech, google earth say me : element unknown style url
[18:54] <shashwat> I installed kubuntu-desktop and I am not able to find KGrub Editor!
[18:54] <shashwat> Plz help
[18:55] <MadRobot> dasKreech: It appears for split-second then it vanishes quickly.
[18:58] <napier> daskreech, this is the console error for google earth: http://pastebin.com/dZK6JL5M
[19:00] <dasKreech> MadRobot: the only one that does that?
[19:01] <dasKreech> neversfelde: ping
[19:02] <neversfelde> dasKreech: pong
[19:03] <dasKreech> neversfelde: can you help shashwat?
[19:03] <dasKreech> napier: http://code.google.com/p/earth-issues/issues/detail?id=991
[19:03] <dasKreech> never mind <_<
[19:03] <napier> anyone know if in kubuntu works fine googleearth?
[19:03] <dasKreech> neversfelde: just left right after
[19:04] <napier> kubuntu 10.10
[19:04] <neversfelde> dasKreech: ?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> napier, no google earth has a bug that makes it crash soon after launch , close the tips box quickly in order to prevent the crash .
[19:05] <MadRobot> dasKreech: Yup. Any other button appears normally.
[19:07] <napier> blueskaj I already did that and google earth conitua failing to open links
[19:07] <napier> google earth still failing
[19:08] <shashwat_> I remember that tere is some command in Grub 2 o automatically search for OSes and add tem to the menu. ne1 know ?
[19:09] <dasKreech> MadRobot: hmm try Libreoffice? :)
[19:09] <napier> blueskaj, to open links of google comunity too
[19:09] <dasKreech> neversfelde: oh wait shashwat_ is still here. Is there a Grubeditor in the repos?
[19:10] <MadRobot> Sounds like a great idea. I'll check it out. ;)
[19:10] <MadRobot> dasKreech: Thanks. ^^
[19:11] <napier> blueskaj do you have installed googleearth for kubuntu 10.10 and googleearth work fine?
[19:11] <neversfelde> dasKreech: no idea
[19:11] <dasKreech> I can't find one for KDE
[19:11] <alx_> hi there kubuntu lovers! i just bought a new fujitsu lifebook a530 and installed kubuntu 10.10. 64bit. unfortunately, i only see command line kubuntu. i tried "startx", "init 5" and "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start" but neither of them work (only black screen/some artifacts and then CLI login again). Same happens when i added "blacklist=vga16fb" to the grub bootup. I read that it's likely to be a video driver problem, ive got "VGA Compatible controller
[19:11] <alx_>  [0300] Intel Corp. core processor integrated graphics controller 8086-0046 - rev 02." ---please help!!
[19:12] <MadRobot> dasKreech: Is there a DEB for LibreOffice/
[19:12] <MadRobot> ?
[19:12] <dasKreech> I.. guess??
[19:12] <BluesKaj> napier, pls read my post above
[19:13] <MadRobot> dasKreech: Okay. I found them. Thanks. :)
[19:13] <dasKreech> ^_^
[19:13] <napier> nobody has installed googleearth in kubuntu 10.10 and if work fine in their kubuntu 10.10?
[19:16] <alx_> @dasKreech, napier .. do you have any idea what i could do? (see post above)
[19:17] <BluesKaj> napier, I have it installed on 10.10 and google earth has a bug that makes it crash soon after launch , close the tips box quickly in order to prevent the crash .
[19:18] <dasKreech> alx_: What video card?
[19:18] <BluesKaj> !intel | alx_
[19:19] <napier> blueskaj , and what is the solution because my googleearth only has error when i suse the links of googleearth and the Suggestion box I have it off
[19:19] <napier> when i use
[19:23] <napier> blueskaj , in googleearth i have the suggestion windows it  off
[19:24] <napier>  in googleearth i have the suggestion windows closed
[19:25] <mfraz74> I have just upgraded to 10.10 and have fallen foul of a problem with Audex and vorbis-tools
[19:25] <BluesKaj> napier, if google earth won't launch with the tips boxes off then I dunno how to help , maybe a gogle-linux search for google earth on maverick will help you
[19:26] <BluesKaj> BBL
[19:26] <mfraz74> the switch for detecting the version of vorbis-tools has changed from -v to -V and therefore Audex can't find it. Has anyone successfully packaged a patched version of Audex?
[19:32] <napier> blueskaj, Is there any installer like ubuntu-tweak and with the option to install Google Earth for kubuntu 10.10?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> napier, I downloaded the googleearth debpkg from the website
[19:38] <petr_> hi
[19:40] <russoturisto> hi
[19:40] <russoturisto> does somebody use kubuntu 10.10?   What do you think about them?
[19:41] <dasKreech> someone does :)
[19:41] <russoturisto> ))
[19:41] <russoturisto> dasistfantastisch
[19:41] <dasKreech> I'm going to go out on a limb and say they like but this <insert issue> bugs them
[19:42] <russoturisto> man... so... you are fom Deutschland
[19:42] <napier> blueskaj, with this method could never install googleearth in ubuntu 10.04 and in  kubuntu 10.10
[19:43] <russoturisto> kubuntu 10.10 look like Windows 7  ....  Now I have only 10.10....   but in several days I want to install win7 also.
[19:43] <BluesKaj> russoturisto, you should have installed windows first
[19:44] <russoturisto> one bag I can say....  ball  does not jumping when I fix desctop widgets!
[19:44] <DarthFrog> Unless you can restore GRUB after installing Win7, BluesKaj is right.  Installing Win7 first is the easy way to go.
[19:45] <russoturisto> BluesKaj: ???  but why!!!!  Now I have 3 logical parts .... on one of them was installed linux 10.10.......
[19:45] <dasKreech> russoturisto: yes that was annoying I think
[19:45] <russoturisto> what will happen if I try to install win7 now?
[19:45] <DarthFrog> russoturisto: Because Win7 doesn't play nice with others.  It will overwrite your MBR, preventing you from launching GRUB.
[19:46] <dasKreech> russoturisto: Windows 7 doesn't like Linux it tries to destroy it if it can
[19:46] <BluesKaj> russ  because when you install windows the mbr will destroy grub and youwon't be able to boot kubuntu
[19:46] <DarthFrog> russoturisto: However, it is possible to boot Linux from Win7.
[19:46] <BluesKaj> !grub | russoturisto,
[19:47] <napier> if someone else uses googleearth in kubuntu 10.10 and it works fine without error I want to know it
[19:49] <alx_> @blueskaj & daskreech, it's not about performance (as with both how-to's you've pointed me towards), i dont even see a gui! this is all i found out about my video card: "Intel HD, 1695 MB, Intel." ""VGA Compatible controller
  [0300] Intel Corp. core processor integrated graphics controller 8086-0046 - rev 02.""
[19:49] <BluesKaj>  DarthFrog , that's new to me , boot kubuntu from W7?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> wubi , DarthFrog?
[19:50] <russoturisto> today I went from 8.04 to 10.10 ....  it is cool... all day I setting my new linux... and now I want not to destroy them for ***ing win7
[19:51] <zippy> napier works like it should for me
[19:51] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: No, the Win7 bootloader can boot Linux.  I've done it.  Use EasyBCD in Win7 to set it up.
[19:52] <DarthFrog> Or in Vista.
[19:52] <russoturisto> somebody used not official licensed windows????  I have never done it...  I use unlicenset cheep copies all my life....  Am I alone in this?
[19:53] <DarthFrog> russoturisto: This is a support forum for Kubuntu, not an open discussion forum on pirated software.  Please keep on-topic.
[19:53] <russoturisto> did somebody bought licensed windows?  ))
[19:53] <DarthFrog> !offtopic | russoturisto
[19:53] <russoturisto> ok ok
[19:53] <russoturisto> I just want to know
[19:53] <russoturisto> ok ok
[19:54] <dasKreech> russoturisto: obviously given how much money Microsoft has it's yes
[19:54] <DarthFrog> russoturisto:  #kubuntu-offtopic is for chat.
[19:54] <dasKreech> but you can fix Kubuntu to boot again after installing Windows 7
[19:54] <dasKreech> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[19:55] <russoturisto> dasKreech:   yes man...  it is good idea
[19:55] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, right , now I recall easyBCD
[19:56] <napier> zippy, and as it should work ? without be closed when you make click on the links of googleearth
[19:59] <zippy> napier no closing at all
[19:59] <napier> zippy your googleearth work in kubuntu 10.10 without no error?
[19:59] <zippy> seems like
[20:01] <zippy> napier tell me exactly where i should click and i will try
[20:01] <napier> zippy, ok is in the link of google comunity
[20:02] <napier> in help
[20:02] <napier> in the option of help
[20:02] <progre55> hi guys. what's kwin responsible for?
[20:03] <dasKreech> alx_: what's in ~/.xsession-errors?
[20:03] <dasKreech> !kwin
[20:03] <dasKreech> progre55: Window managment
[20:03] <zippy> napier that starts a browser window
[20:03] <progre55> dasKreech: it's eating up my cpu for some reason )
[20:03] <progre55> can I restart it or smth?
[20:04] <napier> zyppy, is in the help of googleearth
[20:05] <napier> zyppy , in the link of google comunity , googleearth is closed
[20:05] <zippy> napier i tried: that starts a browser window for http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php/Cat/0
[20:05] <zippy> well not for me
[20:06] <dasKreech> progre55: kwin --replace &
[20:06] <napier> with my firefox i bcan open the link
[20:06] <alx_> @daskreech: i'll get back to you in a few minutes, sorry for the delay
[20:07] <napier> zippy but with googleearth i cant open the link
[20:07] <napier> zippy, because googleearth is closed
[20:07] <progre55> dasKreech: thanks
[20:08] <napier> zippy and with another links of google map too
[20:08] <zippy> napier maybe its because i use different language version?
[20:09] <zippy> or different browser?
[20:09] <napier> i use googleearth spanish language
[20:10] <napier> and the version of googleearth is 5...
[20:10] <zippy> yo uso la version aleman
[20:11] <zippy> Google Earth 5.1.3533.1731
[20:12] <zippy> my version
[20:13] <napier> zippy, can i chage the language since googleearth?
[20:14] <zippy> solamente google earth? no se
[20:15] <zippy> tu sistema completamente si!
[20:16] <zippy> puedes tener varias lenguas
[20:16] <napier> zippi, si escribo en español me echan de aqui, es si puedo cambiar el idioma desde el propio programa
[20:16] <zippy> no
[20:18] <zippy> napier i dont think thats possible
[20:18] <napier> si tuviera un instalador como ubuntu-tweak u otro inteligente que instalara de forma correcta googleearth ya lo tendria solucionado como hice con el mismo problema que tuve en ubuntu
[20:19] <BluesKaj> !es | zippy, napier
[20:29] <alx_> hi daskreech, i just installed opensuse, everything works fine! thanks anyway =)
[20:36] <Squeepy> Hallo Kubuntu IRC
[20:36] <Squeepy> :)
[20:36] <falco77> salve a tutti
[20:38] <Squeepy> Salve Ceasar! Veni vidi vici? :P
[20:38] <dasKreech> alx_: :)
[20:38] <dasKreech> !it
[20:39] <alx_> cyaa
[20:41] <Alarm> hello. how do i change the settings so that windows wont be grouped on the task bar ?
[20:50] <Alarm> :/
[20:51] <BluesKaj> Alarm, are you talking about active apps showing in the panel ?
[20:52] <Alarm> i dont know if they are called active
[20:52] <Alarm> for example dolphin windows
[20:52] <Alarm> are grouped
[20:52] <Alarm> i have to right click on the task bar and press "do not allow grouping"
[20:52] <Alarm> but isnt there a setting for all apps ?
[20:53] <BluesKaj> active=apps you have open
[20:53] <dasKreech> Alarm: Hmm?
[20:54] <Alarm> what ?
[20:54] <dasKreech> Alarm: You alreadyset them not to be grouped so what's the problem?
[20:54] <Alarm> i have set it just for 1-2 apps
[20:54] <Alarm> i want this setting to be for all apps
[20:54] <Alarm> not to be grouped in the taskbar
[20:54] <dasKreech> Alarm: oh set it for the entire task bar
[20:55] <dasKreech> click the cashew at the end and then right click the taskbar -> settings
[20:55] <Alarm> ok just found it
[20:55] <Alarm> i just couldnt get to that screen . it looks that i had to press on an empty space of the taskbar
[20:55] <Alarm> thanks, that worked fine
[20:56] <dasKreech> Alarm: yes the easy way is put the panel in edit mode by clicking that button really easy to get to setting thens
[20:56] <dasKreech> settings then
[20:57] <Alarm> okie, didnt know that ;)
[21:03] <the-admincrack06> klk
[21:03] <the-admincrack06> ubuntu-es
[21:03] <the-admincrack06> #ubuntu-es
[21:05] <`RoSe`> uhmmm...ma c'è qualcuno qui?
[21:13] <ubuntu> hi ppl
[21:13] <ubuntu> i have one question
[21:13] <ubuntu> how to install lost grub
[21:13] <ubuntu> i install open suse and cant log in on my kubuntu
[21:14] <dasKreech> !grub
[21:14] <ubuntu> ty mate
[21:17] <KimLaRoux> that single question comes up so often, you should put the answer right in the channel's topic XD
[21:23] <e01> someone that is tested http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/alternative-to-200-lines-kernel-patch.html
[21:26] <m477> #lhc
[21:26] <ubuntu> one more question, what version of grub use kubuntu 10.04 and 10.10?
[21:28] <ubuntu> !grub2
[21:34] <m477> where are installed programs ?
[21:36] <yofel> m477: binaries are in /usr (except for system core apps, they're directly in /bin /sbin ...) - variable data in /var - configuration files in /etc - architecture indeependent stuff in /share
[21:36] <yofel> !fhs
[21:37] <roxy_> where do you suppose to go to change the mouse pointer look and also where do you go to where you can take you pointer to the edge of the screen to swtich desktop thing
[21:38] <yofel> mouse pointer for the login screen is the x-cursor-theme alternate, for your user profile set it in system settings
[21:38] <yofel> s/alternate/alternative/
[21:39] <m477> yofel: thx, so if i try find eg rythmbox where i need to search?
[21:39] <m477> i supose in var but there is a lot of sub folders
[21:39] <yofel> m477: what do you need? the executable should be /usr/bin/rythmbox - libraries and documentation will be somewhere else
[21:40] <yofel> I mean /usr/bin/rhythmbox
[21:40] <marxjohnson> Sreen edge/corner settings are in the System Settings, look for "screen edges". On KDE 4.5 it's under Workspace appearance and Behaviour->Window Behaviour
[21:40] <yofel> m477: use 'dpkg -L rhythmbox' to see what files the package installed on your system
[21:41] <m477> ok i have it, thx
[21:41] <yofel> (dpkg -L only works if the package is installed by the way9
[21:43] <m477> i suppost that
[21:48] <m477> how it is possible that 10.10 detect 4 gb ram on 32 bit architecture?
[21:58] <bipolar> m477: Linux has been able to use more then 4gb of ram even with a 32bit kernel for a long time now. It uses PAE. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[21:59] <m477> ohh, on 10.04 i had dtected 3 gb
[22:04] <moetunes> !pae
[22:07] <delac> how do I fix Kate's toolbar so that the icons won't jump around?
[22:10] <bipolar> Does anyone have any experiance or can point me to any documentation on how to modify the scripts in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/plasma-desktop/ so I can customize my my new users desktop? Mostly I want to remove the microblog widget, and set the desktop to folder view.
[22:11] <bipolar> The scripts are written in javascript, but I can find anything that explains how they work.
[22:47] <tsimpson> bipolar: try #kubuntu-devel
[23:40] <bobbi> quick question - my netbook doesn't have pg up / pg dwn keys - what tool can I use in KDE4.5 to map some other key combo to this?
[23:42] <d_ed> systemsettings->shortcuts->standard keyboard shortcuts.
[23:42] <bobbi> thanks
[23:42] <bobbi> :)
[23:42] <d_ed> np.
[23:42] <bobbi> i was looking in 'input devices' ;)
[23:44] <bobbi> will this apply to all apps or just KDE apps?
[23:51] <sheffrem> need some proxies now
[23:51] <sheffrem> pls help