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kristian-aalborglol00:08
Kurdistanwant to say before I go to bed. every thing works perfect now. got to a bit of own workaround.00:22
Kurdistanlubuntu 10.10 works even beter then lubuntu 10.0400:22
Kurdistanbye my dear lubuntu family00:23
rladukecan someone please help me fix this error ": Error setting permissions: Function not implemented02:06
rladuke" i got it from trying to make a mounted .exe executable02:06
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aisHi i am trying to get tint2 work11:06
aisbut the install page11:06
aishas autostart.sh11:08
aisbut i dont have anything like it11:08
aiscan anybody help?11:08
bioterroryou have to create tint.desktop in your .config/lxsomething11:22
bioterrorwhich launches the tint211:22
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mark76Ah... Lubuntu-offtopic. A more wretched hive of scum and villainy you'll not find :p14:14
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chandlerHello folks. Can anyone tell me or point me to something which describes how much disk space is required for Lubuntu? I have an old eee 701 with a 4GB SSD that I'd like to put a newer operating system on, but I found that even xubuntu used up too much of its disk.15:18
mark76Should be adequate15:22
phillwchandler: It runs happily on 2GB (including the swap). 4GB is plenty enough for it :)16:02
mark76I think he means hard disk space, Phill16:04
mark76Not RAM16:04
chandlerGreat, thanks. I actually just threw it in a VM to test that out, and it looks like the default installation uses about 1.3GB.16:04
mark76:)16:07
phillwmark76: lubuntu fits snugly on 2GB, you even get room for some music etc :)16:07
mark76Nice16:07
phillwmark76: I have it on a 2GB pen drive and similar to chandler I have a reasonable amount of room for documents etc.16:08
phillwI'll amend the documentation up after my shift.16:09
mark76I have a 4 gig thumbdrive that needs formatting16:09
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kristian-aalborghi all17:27
kristian-aalborgis Maverick much bigger than Lucid?17:35
head_victimkristian-aalborg: in terms of disk space or in terms of ram usage or?18:18
kristian-aalborgyup, that was unspecific18:25
kristian-aalborg;)18:25
kristian-aalborgdisc usage, firstly18:25
kristian-aalborgit seems about the same regarding rams18:25
head_victimYeah well as for exact data I'm unsure but apparently it fits on a 2gb drive ok so to me that means it can't be that big.18:30
head_victimAre you trying to fit it on a certain space or?18:30
kristian-aalborg I got exactly 2g to use18:33
kristian-aalborgare you sure it's not 10.4 you talk about?18:34
kristian-aalborgI recall seeing systems perform badly when the disk is almost full, though... so will need to slim it down18:35
kristian-aalborgthe installer recommends 3.8 gb or something like that18:35
kristian-aalborgyay, I made it18:36
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head_victimkristian-aalborg: I guess the only way to be sure is to try it but then there are people talking 2.5 hours ago saying it fits on a 2gb usb drive so I'm not certain (haven't done it) but all reports are that it works.18:43
kristian-aalborgit did :)18:43
head_victimWell there you go.18:44
head_victimI'll start pestering some people to see if we can get hard drive space added to the "minimum specifications" part of the wiki and help guides. There are a lot of questions about that in here.18:44
Neosanowhen is the best time to migrate to lubuntu? Currently using Kubuntu on PC and Xubuntu on laptop, I wanna install lubuntu on both. Should I do it right now or should I wait for next release or smth?18:46
kristian-aalborghead_victim: I removed about ten megs of programs18:46
kristian-aalborgand I use 1,4 G now, df -h says18:47
kristian-aalborghowever18:47
head_victimNeosano: depends on what you call "best time". I have Lubuntu 10.10 on a desktop and laptop right now and they are running great.18:47
bioterrormy / is 825G :(18:48
head_victimI keep / under 20 gb but some of my pcs have a 2tb /home18:50
Neosanohead_victim, if I install it right now would it be hard to upgrade to newer versions?18:50
head_victimWhich is handy when you decide you want to mirror the Ubuntu repository.18:50
head_victimNeosano: it wouldn't be any more difficult than if you installed it any other time I don't believe.18:50
Neosanooh ok18:51
Neosanoanother question... is netboot install possible with lubuntu?18:54
head_victimNeosano: hang on I'll get a link18:55
head_victimNeosano: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall18:55
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Neosanodamn.. my internet is so slow :|18:57
Neosanomy neighbor is probably download something.. gosh..18:57
Neosanowell, it's a payback :D18:57
head_victimHah that's the spirit.19:01
Neosanohead_victim, minimal install is something different :O it's possible to install ubuntu by downloading a single file which is about 20 mb, everything else is going to be downloaded via internet19:01
head_victimNeosano: ah sorry, that's the smallest installation for Lubuntu that is docuemented. It doesn't mean it's not possible it's just that it means no one has written about it.19:01
Neosanooh19:02
head_victimAnd I have to head off to work, didn't realise the time!19:02
head_victimIf you shoot an email to the mailing list they might be able to help out more.19:02
Neosanonah it's not a big problem for me19:03
head_victimDetails are at https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop :D19:03
head_victimGood luck19:03
Neosanothank you, cya :)19:03
kristian-aalborgoh no20:33
kristian-aalborgI ran chromim as sudo20:33
kristian-aalborgnow I can't start is as regular user20:34
bioterrornow someone at google laughs at you20:34
kristian-aalborgprobably20:35
kristian-aalborg;)20:35
kristian-aalborgsill20:39
kristian-aalborgstill20:40
kristian-aalborgthis should not happen20:40
phillwkristian-aalborg: you have completely messed up your permissions on Chromium. you must always use gksudo for a programme that has your details on, if you give me few minutes I'll go get the solution for you.20:47
kristian-aalborgI actually think I was gksudo20:51
kristian-aalborgnope, history says I was sudo...20:51
kristian-aalborgmy bad, then ;)20:51
bioterroryou should never run browser as root20:52
bioterrornever ever20:52
phillwls -l of /usr/bin/ chro*  should report report back -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3382 2010-09-17 11:37 chromium-browser (it's the permissions I need to confirm)20:53
kristian-aalborgI don't have a lot of settings in it20:53
phillwbioterror: there are instances when running a browser with gksudo is needed for bug hunting, but you are dead right NEVER run any GUI programme as sudo.20:54
bioterrorwell not about gui20:54
bioterrorbut rather browser20:55
bioterrorweb pages are full of javascripts and other stuff like that20:55
bioterrorthere's really no difference between sudo and gksud20:55
bioterroro20:55
phillwbioterror: using sudo on any GUI programme will mess your personal data up so much, fortunately in this case it's not hard a fix.20:56
bioterrormess what?20:56
kristian-aalborgphillw: you mean /usr/bin/chromium-browser?20:56
phillwbioterror: using gksudo retains your own user permissions, sudo converts everything to owned by root.20:56
phillwkristian-aalborg: yup20:57
bioterrorgksu is just a frontend for su and sudo?20:57
kristian-aalborgI get rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 343820:57
phillwbioterror: I know this from people messing firefox up, I'm going to use the same instructions for correcting it, but using the chromium profile.20:58
bioterrorbut still20:58
phillwkristian-aalborg: that's fine.20:58
bioterrorI believe that there's no difference between gksudo and sudo20:58
bioterrorjust a graphical frontend20:58
phillwbioterror: no, gksudo retains the user permissions, sudo changes them to root.20:59
bioterroryou mean like /home/loser/.config?20:59
phillwexactly, which is where kristian-aalborg is heading next, to sudo chown it back.21:00
bioterrorhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo21:01
phillwlovinglinux is a really good guy and has taught my so much about people messing up firefox by using sudo instead of gksudo that I'm fairly confident I can sort this permissions problem out.21:02
phillwbioterror: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=64916721:04
phillwa really handy guy to get to befriend.21:04
phillwbioterror: I think his post count and tutorials say as much as needs saying :)21:05
phillwsorry kristian-aalborg we got side tracked21:06
phillwissue cd in the terminal21:07
phillwkristian-aalborg: that will take you to your home directory, can you paste up what the path name is please.21:08
kristian-aalborgsuer21:09
kristian-aalborgsure21:09
kristian-aalborgone second21:09
kristian-aalborgsudo chown -R <user_name>:<user_name> ~/.mozilla21:10
kristian-aalborgshould be this simple :)21:10
phillwyeas, except you need to change it for chromium :P21:11
phillwcd to .config21:12
phillwif you then do an ls on there, you should see the chromium area21:12
phillwphillw@piglet:~/.config$ ls -l chromium21:13
phillwthey all need to be chown'ed and chgrpd to your self.21:14
kristian-aalborgyupee21:15
phillwkristian-aalborg: next time, don't use sudo, else I'll spank your bottom :P21:15
kristian-aalborgI forgot this was SMbuntu ;)21:16
czzmy sound just stopped working, any ideas?21:54
czzi restarted and still no sound21:55
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stlsaintczz: is sound card still deteced?22:26
stlsaintdetected22:26
czzhow do i test that?22:26
stlsaintalso do a reboot and before you start any other programs, pop a terminal and run: dmesg22:26
stlsaintthat will tell you a good snapshot of what mounted properly and what didnt22:27
czzokay brb22:27
bioterrorwhy not just lspci?-)22:27
czzbioterror, continue ...22:27
bioterrorlspci should show you soundcard22:28
bioterrorI get22:28
bioterror00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio C22:28
bioterrorontroller (rev 01)22:28
czz00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)22:28
bioterror;)22:29
czzi'll do that stlsaint said22:29
czzbrb22:29
czzstlsaint, should i pastebin it?22:32
stlsaintczz:sure22:33
czzhttp://pastebin.com/hJv0yvWz22:35
czzi'll get install unr 10.0422:40
czzugh22:40
stlsaintonce sec22:45
stlsaintczz: says the pastebin is expired or delted?22:46
czzgave it a 10 min expiration date22:47
stlsaintoh shucks, at least give it a one day exp22:49
czzhehe22:50
kristian-aalborghas anyone gotten rhythmbox running?23:37
kristian-aalborgI can't play mp3's there23:37
bioterrordo you have gstreamer ugly installed23:38
bioterroror what those were23:38
kristian-aalborgyes23:43
kristian-aalborgbioterror: the strange thing is that mp3 works in mplayer23:43
bioterrorofcourse23:44
bioterrormplayer does not use gstreamer23:44
bioterrorand rhtytnsdfsdfbox does us23:44
bioterroruse23:44
kristian-aalborgI tried with both ubuntu and lubuntu extras23:45
szczurkristian-aalborg, USE MOC! :)23:46
szczurj.k23:46
bioterrorszczur, *5* ;D23:47
szczurbioterror, \o23:47
szczur:)23:48
* szczur found out that moc can play SID files :)23:48
bioterror:D23:51
bioterrorhahaha23:51
bioterrorawesome23:51
bioterrorszczur, you've HVSC?23:51
szczurnot yet23:52
bioterror;)23:52
szczurit's on my way :>23:52
bioterrorgood23:52
bioterrordo you have Instant Remedy album?-)23:52
szczuryeah :)23:52
bioterror:D23:52
szczurXD23:52
bioterrorboth Press Play on Tape albums?23:52
bioterrorszczur, http://www.axesdenied.net/23:53
szczurhttp://pastebin.com/VWYxCTSC < don't know if it's complete23:54
szczurbioterror, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN2aNCvgcPU < Polish Power :)23:55

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