[00:08] lol [00:22] want to say before I go to bed. every thing works perfect now. got to a bit of own workaround. [00:22] lubuntu 10.10 works even beter then lubuntu 10.04 [00:23] bye my dear lubuntu family [02:06] can someone please help me fix this error ": Error setting permissions: Function not implemented [02:06] " i got it from trying to make a mounted .exe executable === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [11:06] Hi i am trying to get tint2 work [11:06] but the install page [11:08] has autostart.sh [11:08] but i dont have anything like it [11:08] can anybody help? [11:22] you have to create tint.desktop in your .config/lxsomething [11:22] which launches the tint2 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:14] Ah... Lubuntu-offtopic. A more wretched hive of scum and villainy you'll not find :p === JoeSett is now known as JoeMaverickSett [15:18] Hello folks. Can anyone tell me or point me to something which describes how much disk space is required for Lubuntu? I have an old eee 701 with a 4GB SSD that I'd like to put a newer operating system on, but I found that even xubuntu used up too much of its disk. [15:22] Should be adequate [16:02] chandler: It runs happily on 2GB (including the swap). 4GB is plenty enough for it :) [16:04] I think he means hard disk space, Phill [16:04] Not RAM [16:04] Great, thanks. I actually just threw it in a VM to test that out, and it looks like the default installation uses about 1.3GB. [16:07] :) [16:07] mark76: lubuntu fits snugly on 2GB, you even get room for some music etc :) [16:07] Nice [16:08] mark76: I have it on a 2GB pen drive and similar to chandler I have a reasonable amount of room for documents etc. [16:09] I'll amend the documentation up after my shift. [16:09] I have a 4 gig thumbdrive that needs formatting === zkriesse_ is now known as zkriesse === kaemo is now known as kaem0 === kaem0 is now known as kaemo_ === kaemo_ is now known as kaemo [17:27] hi all [17:35] is Maverick much bigger than Lucid? [18:18] kristian-aalborg: in terms of disk space or in terms of ram usage or? [18:25] yup, that was unspecific [18:25] ;) [18:25] disc usage, firstly [18:25] it seems about the same regarding rams [18:30] Yeah well as for exact data I'm unsure but apparently it fits on a 2gb drive ok so to me that means it can't be that big. [18:30] Are you trying to fit it on a certain space or? [18:33] I got exactly 2g to use [18:34] are you sure it's not 10.4 you talk about? [18:35] I recall seeing systems perform badly when the disk is almost full, though... so will need to slim it down [18:35] the installer recommends 3.8 gb or something like that [18:36] yay, I made it === mark76_ is now known as mark76 [18:43] kristian-aalborg: I guess the only way to be sure is to try it but then there are people talking 2.5 hours ago saying it fits on a 2gb usb drive so I'm not certain (haven't done it) but all reports are that it works. [18:43] it did :) [18:44] Well there you go. [18:44] I'll start pestering some people to see if we can get hard drive space added to the "minimum specifications" part of the wiki and help guides. There are a lot of questions about that in here. [18:46] when is the best time to migrate to lubuntu? Currently using Kubuntu on PC and Xubuntu on laptop, I wanna install lubuntu on both. Should I do it right now or should I wait for next release or smth? [18:46] head_victim: I removed about ten megs of programs [18:47] and I use 1,4 G now, df -h says [18:47] however [18:47] Neosano: depends on what you call "best time". I have Lubuntu 10.10 on a desktop and laptop right now and they are running great. [18:48] my / is 825G :( [18:50] I keep / under 20 gb but some of my pcs have a 2tb /home [18:50] head_victim, if I install it right now would it be hard to upgrade to newer versions? [18:50] Which is handy when you decide you want to mirror the Ubuntu repository. [18:50] Neosano: it wouldn't be any more difficult than if you installed it any other time I don't believe. [18:51] oh ok [18:54] another question... is netboot install possible with lubuntu? [18:55] Neosano: hang on I'll get a link [18:55] Neosano: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall === SuperHark is now known as MichealH [18:57] damn.. my internet is so slow :| [18:57] my neighbor is probably download something.. gosh.. [18:57] well, it's a payback :D [19:01] Hah that's the spirit. [19:01] head_victim, minimal install is something different :O it's possible to install ubuntu by downloading a single file which is about 20 mb, everything else is going to be downloaded via internet [19:01] Neosano: ah sorry, that's the smallest installation for Lubuntu that is docuemented. It doesn't mean it's not possible it's just that it means no one has written about it. [19:02] oh [19:02] And I have to head off to work, didn't realise the time! [19:02] If you shoot an email to the mailing list they might be able to help out more. [19:03] nah it's not a big problem for me [19:03] Details are at https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop :D [19:03] Good luck [19:03] thank you, cya :) [20:33] oh no [20:33] I ran chromim as sudo [20:34] now I can't start is as regular user [20:34] now someone at google laughs at you [20:35] probably [20:35] ;) [20:39] sill [20:40] still [20:40] this should not happen [20:47] kristian-aalborg: you have completely messed up your permissions on Chromium. you must always use gksudo for a programme that has your details on, if you give me few minutes I'll go get the solution for you. [20:51] I actually think I was gksudo [20:51] nope, history says I was sudo... [20:51] my bad, then ;) [20:52] you should never run browser as root [20:52] never ever [20:53] ls -l of /usr/bin/ chro* should report report back -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3382 2010-09-17 11:37 chromium-browser (it's the permissions I need to confirm) [20:53] I don't have a lot of settings in it [20:54] bioterror: there are instances when running a browser with gksudo is needed for bug hunting, but you are dead right NEVER run any GUI programme as sudo. [20:54] well not about gui [20:55] but rather browser [20:55] web pages are full of javascripts and other stuff like that [20:55] there's really no difference between sudo and gksud [20:55] o [20:56] bioterror: using sudo on any GUI programme will mess your personal data up so much, fortunately in this case it's not hard a fix. [20:56] mess what? [20:56] phillw: you mean /usr/bin/chromium-browser? [20:56] bioterror: using gksudo retains your own user permissions, sudo converts everything to owned by root. [20:57] kristian-aalborg: yup [20:57] gksu is just a frontend for su and sudo? [20:57] I get rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3438 [20:58] bioterror: I know this from people messing firefox up, I'm going to use the same instructions for correcting it, but using the chromium profile. [20:58] but still [20:58] kristian-aalborg: that's fine. [20:58] I believe that there's no difference between gksudo and sudo [20:58] just a graphical frontend [20:59] bioterror: no, gksudo retains the user permissions, sudo changes them to root. [20:59] you mean like /home/loser/.config? [21:00] exactly, which is where kristian-aalborg is heading next, to sudo chown it back. [21:01] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo [21:02] lovinglinux is a really good guy and has taught my so much about people messing up firefox by using sudo instead of gksudo that I'm fairly confident I can sort this permissions problem out. [21:04] bioterror: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=649167 [21:04] a really handy guy to get to befriend. [21:05] bioterror: I think his post count and tutorials say as much as needs saying :) [21:06] sorry kristian-aalborg we got side tracked [21:07] issue cd in the terminal [21:08] kristian-aalborg: that will take you to your home directory, can you paste up what the path name is please. [21:09] suer [21:09] sure [21:09] one second [21:10] sudo chown -R : ~/.mozilla [21:10] should be this simple :) [21:11] yeas, except you need to change it for chromium :P [21:12] cd to .config [21:12] if you then do an ls on there, you should see the chromium area [21:13] phillw@piglet:~/.config$ ls -l chromium [21:14] they all need to be chown'ed and chgrpd to your self. [21:15] yupee [21:15] kristian-aalborg: next time, don't use sudo, else I'll spank your bottom :P [21:16] I forgot this was SMbuntu ;) [21:54] my sound just stopped working, any ideas? [21:55] i restarted and still no sound === IdleOne_ is now known as IdleOne [22:26] czz: is sound card still deteced? [22:26] detected [22:26] how do i test that? [22:26] also do a reboot and before you start any other programs, pop a terminal and run: dmesg [22:27] that will tell you a good snapshot of what mounted properly and what didnt [22:27] okay brb [22:27] why not just lspci?-) [22:27] bioterror, continue ... [22:28] lspci should show you soundcard [22:28] I get [22:28] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio C [22:28] ontroller (rev 01) [22:28] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02) [22:29] ;) [22:29] i'll do that stlsaint said [22:29] brb [22:32] stlsaint, should i pastebin it? [22:33] czz:sure [22:35] http://pastebin.com/hJv0yvWz [22:40] i'll get install unr 10.04 [22:40] ugh [22:45] once sec [22:46] czz: says the pastebin is expired or delted? [22:47] gave it a 10 min expiration date [22:49] oh shucks, at least give it a one day exp [22:50] hehe [23:37] has anyone gotten rhythmbox running? [23:37] I can't play mp3's there [23:38] do you have gstreamer ugly installed [23:38] or what those were [23:43] yes [23:43] bioterror: the strange thing is that mp3 works in mplayer [23:44] ofcourse [23:44] mplayer does not use gstreamer [23:44] and rhtytnsdfsdfbox does us [23:44] use [23:45] I tried with both ubuntu and lubuntu extras [23:46] kristian-aalborg, USE MOC! :) [23:46] j.k [23:47] szczur, *5* ;D [23:47] bioterror, \o [23:48] :) [23:48] * szczur found out that moc can play SID files :) [23:51] :D [23:51] hahaha [23:51] awesome [23:51] szczur, you've HVSC? [23:52] not yet [23:52] ;) [23:52] it's on my way :> [23:52] good [23:52] do you have Instant Remedy album?-) [23:52] yeah :) [23:52] :D [23:52] XD [23:52] both Press Play on Tape albums? [23:53] szczur, http://www.axesdenied.net/ [23:54] http://pastebin.com/VWYxCTSC < don't know if it's complete [23:55] bioterror, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN2aNCvgcPU < Polish Power :)