[00:13] <psusi> just tested an upgrade to natty and windows don't have title bars... this didn't happen last night... anyone else have that?
[00:13] <psusi> well, night before last actually... last night I went out
[00:14] <yofel> I did hear others talking about that, does 'metacity --replace' help?
[00:17] <BUGabundo> man
[00:18] <BUGabundo> today is a BAD day to upgrade
[00:18] <BUGabundo> boot broken, X broken, fifefox migrated to ff4 :(
[00:20] <yofel> boot works here, X is fine too so far, and firefox4 works acceptable at least, without some extensions though :/
[00:23] <BUGabundo> mine was suck on a black screen
[00:23] <BUGabundo> jumped to TTY and back and it was all filled with squares
[00:23] <BUGabundo> upgraded packages from tty and rebooted
[00:24] <yofel> well, my eeePC works fine (intel), I'll upgrade my thinkpad over the weekend and see what happens
[00:27] <psusi> hrm... I didn't try switching back to metacity, I normally use compiz
[00:27] <psusi> I reverted back to maverick for now
[00:27] <yofel> afaik compiz is broken, at least some people said it segfaults
[00:27] <psusi> that would explain it
[00:28]  * yofel blames compiz 0.9
[00:28] <yofel> anyway, I'm off to bed, gn
[00:28]  * psusi loves his lvm snapshots
[00:32] <BUGabundo> yofel: compiz WFM
[00:32] <BUGabundo> psusi: over BTRFS?
[00:33] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 1:0.9.2.1+glibmainloop-0ubuntu3
[00:35] <BUGabundo> why is Firefox being launched as default browser, when chromium is set as default one ????
[00:37] <psusi> BUGabundo, nope... ext4
[00:38] <BUGabundo> gnome-do is broken
[00:38] <BUGabundo> alt-f2 aint working
[00:38] <BUGabundo> most applets are broken too
[00:42] <BUGabundo> and gwibber breaks...yet again
[02:01] <BUGabundo> nite
[03:55] <Drakeson> how can I get the indicator applets back?
[03:56] <Drakeson> are there ppa's for them working with the new unity?
[10:03] <magn3ts> How do I get natty installed? The live discs keep failing for me.
[10:03] <magn3ts> Do i just do meerkat and switch to natty?
[10:23] <nperry> !info unity
[10:23] <nperry> !info unity/natty
[10:25] <nperry> Can't remeber the command.
[10:25] <nperry> !help
[10:26] <nperry> !commands
[11:20] <el2ro_> Any help, where could I find 2.6.37 (k)ubuntu kernel source package?
[11:21] <jpds> el2ro_: apt-get source linux-source-2.6.37 ?
[11:22] <el2ro_> jpds: gives me 2.6.35 for some reason
[11:23] <wzssyqa> el2ro_: are you using natty？
[11:23] <el2ro_> no
[11:24] <wzssyqa> electro: this channel is for natty
[11:24] <wzssyqa> el2ro_:
[11:25] <el2ro_> wzssyqa: so what channel is correct then? ... Natty is using 2.6.37 right and I want those sources :)
[11:26] <wzssyqa> el2ro_: dget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux_2.6.37-5.13.dsc
[11:29] <el2ro_> wzssyqa: thx
[11:29] <wzssyqa> el2ro_: or you can change it to your faverate mirror
[11:29] <wzssyqa> favourite
[11:35] <jpds> Probably fi.archive.
[12:54] <cwillu_at_work> electro, you could just use one of the ubuntu team's mainline kernel builds (debs, no ppa)
[12:54] <cwillu_at_work> you may or may not be able to just install natty's kernel as well
[13:54] <Pici> !info bash
[13:54] <Pici> odd.
[13:57] <tsimpson> !info bash
[13:57] <tsimpson> ergg
[13:57] <tsimpson> !info bash
[15:33] <KukuNut> 6.37-5 kernel won't boot?
[15:34] <KukuNut> drops to tty..
[15:37] <kklimonda> how stable is natty right now?
[15:40] <KukuNut> kklimonda: ^^^
[15:41] <kklimonda> meh, as long as previous kernel works it's fine :)
[15:41] <wzssyqa> kklimonda: for me ,there is not serious bug
[15:41] <kklimonda> I was rather wondering how stable stuff is in general
[15:42] <KukuNut> if you use Kubuntu, wait till 4.6 is in.  B1 out next week, how fast they get it in idn
[15:44] <KukuNut> btw does Kubuntu A1 gets 4.6?
[15:45] <KukuNut> is this the right channel for Kubuntu Natty?
[15:50] <KukuNut> is this the right channel for Kubuntu Natty?
[15:51] <KukuNut> btw does Kubuntu A1 gets 4.6?
[17:50] <pace_t_zulu> anyone experiencing poor graphics performance with natty running in virtualbox?
[17:56] <IdleOne> I'm experiencing poor graphics with natty installed on metal
[18:03] <pace_t_zulu> IdleOne: so it isn't a virtualbox thing... its a natty thing
[18:03] <IdleOne> pace_t_zulu: seems so for me at least
[18:13] <mfaroukg> why the gurb2 had a problem after upgrading the ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04.1
[18:16] <gnomefreak> mfaroukg: please join #ubuntu for maverick problems
[18:16] <gnomefreak> this is only for 11.04. please see /topic for more info
[18:17] <mfaroukg> ظفخحهؤ
[18:18] <mfaroukg> gnomefreak, Thanks
[18:18] <gnomefreak> np
[18:18] <mfaroukg>  is upgrading to 11.04 available now?
[18:19] <yofel> only by changing sources.list and dist-upgrading so far I think
[18:21] <mfaroukg> yofel, isn't it available for public yet?
[18:21] <yofel> alpha1 should be the first time you can upgrade with update-manager, that's december 2nd
[18:22] <mfaroukg> yofel, where i can read news?
[18:22] <head_victim> You'll probably find the graphics problems in virtualbox are related to it not supporting that version of xorg. I had that issue with maverick. If you raise a support ticket they usually release a fix for it.
[18:24] <yofel> mfaroukg: not sure, there's planet.ubuntu.com, the announce mailing lists or you can look at the schedule in the topic
[18:25] <mfaroukg> yofel, Thanks.
[19:26] <AR_> Natty Narwhal?
[19:26] <AR_> why are all the ubuntu names so retarded
[19:27] <krunal> animal names
[19:27] <krunal> cartoon charachters
[19:27] <AR_> stupid
[19:28] <krunal> So they are using Unity instead of gnome
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Always an adjective to describe it and the name of an animal. In this case, a Narwhal is a whale that is endangered
[19:33] <patdk-wk> heh, never heard of it :)
[19:33] <patdk-wk> thought it was from futurama :)
[19:34] <yofel> some education in order then :P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narwhal
[19:34] <patdk-wk> I got my education from foxtv :)
[19:35] <yofel> heheh
[19:35] <patdk-wk> hmm, actually, it was never on fox
[19:35] <patdk-wk> that one, was only on comedy centeral
[19:37] <BUGabundo> evening
[19:38] <yofel> well, upgraded to natty, low let's see if I come back in natty or after reinstalling mav ^^
[19:38] <yofel> *now
[19:38] <patdk-wk> heh, my natty works
[19:38] <patdk-wk> but no unity for me
[19:42] <yofel> hm, here I upgrade expecting breakage and everything works fine...
[19:44] <yofel> well, ffx4 will take some getting used to..
[20:15] <BUGabundo> I think my sound stop working
[20:15] <BUGabundo> ping
[20:23] <yofel> hm, here too..
[20:24] <yofel> no wait, I had soft mute on, grr...
[20:30] <BUGabundo> LOL
[20:31] <yofel> hm, one thing improved already in natty. I can watch a 720p video on xv output and have kwin compositing enabled with nvidia-driver. That was totally sluggy in maverick unless I used vdpau
[20:33]  * yofel wants a SSD for his thinkpad -.-
[20:35] <BUGabundo> now using nvida blob after months with nouvaue I do notice how much cooler the laptop is
[20:36] <yofel> heh
[20:41]  * charlie-tca wants the laptop for his SSD
[20:41] <yofel> o.O?
[20:42] <JFo> O_o
[20:42] <charlie-tca> Well, anyway, ordered the ati video card. Should be here next week so I can maybe get natty to work
[20:42] <JFo> good luck charlie-tca :)
[20:42] <charlie-tca> heh
[20:42] <charlie-tca> seems I need more than that even
[20:43] <charlie-tca> Shook things up pretty good this morning when I said natty won't install on anything
[20:46] <JFo> I can imagine
[20:48] <bjsnider> yofel, that might have been kwin's fault because ffmpeg's x264 codec improved a lot for maverick. most people should be able to play a 720p without much trouble now, vdpau or not
[20:49] <yofel> well, I could play it fine with compositing disabled, so I blamed kwin, but in natty it plays fine even with compositing enabled in kwin (same kwin verion)
[20:49] <bjsnider> once the fmpeg-mt merge happens it will no longer be necessary to use gpu accel on multicore systems, and that may be in time for natty
[20:50] <yofel> oh, sounds nice
[20:50] <bjsnider> even 1080p will work fine without gpu accel
[20:50] <BUGabundo> compiz is killing me
[20:51] <BUGabundo> ctrl-shift+t in gnome-terminal is moving GT to another window
[20:51] <BUGabundo> and I can't find the compiz shortcut for it :(
[21:06] <Patrickdk> heh, I don't use gpu accel currently, and don't use ffmpeg-mt, works fine
[21:06] <Patrickdk> gpu accel kills all my videos, they all look like crap using it
[21:06] <Patrickdk> expecially ota ones
[21:19] <TerminX> heh, thanks to whoever decided to sync rsyslog from debian only a couple of days after I commented here on how old the version in natty was
[21:22] <yofel> TerminX: thank lorenzo ;) https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/natty-changes/2010-November/001459.html
[21:48] <BUGabundo> oh look
[21:48] <BUGabundo> now links open in the proper app
[21:48] <BUGabundo> one less bug
[21:48] <BUGabundo> only 3433534435 to go
[21:51] <jpds> One step at a time.
[21:52] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: url's open firefox and not my default/preferred browser
[21:52] <IdleOne> but it's better the gedit I suppose
[21:54] <BUGabundo> lol
[21:54] <BUGabundo> idle it did that, till my last upadate and reboot
[21:54] <BUGabundo> which I was forced , cause my X didn't resume from suspend
[21:54]  * BUGabundo blames nvidia blob
[22:05] <yofel> hm, someone broke cpu_temp display in byobu :/