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| jmgalloway | I am having trouble registering node controllers | 17:40 |
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| jmgalloway | I cant get them to list on the cloud controller after being discovered by the cluster controller | 17:41 |
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| SpamapS | smoser: you know what would be an awesome use of the landscape cloud stuff / cloud10 ? If I could, in a bug report, grant the user the rights to run a node of any AMI for 1 hour. | 19:14 |
| SpamapS | Like "can you repeat that with a fresh install of lucid? Here's 1 lucid node .. go" | 19:15 |
| smoser | SpamapS, i suggested this in the discussion about awstrial and was suprised that no one else found it a good idea. | 19:16 |
| smoser | especially for "can you reproduce this on the development release" | 19:16 |
| SpamapS | smoser: even a button on each bug that says "I want to try and repeat this bug" that takes you to an appropriate VM. | 19:17 |
| smoser | as, i think that question is almost absurd for an end user... "Can you re-install your operating system and try this thing that maybe doesn't even boot for you" | 19:17 |
| smoser | :) | 19:17 |
| SpamapS | If we can't do it on cloud10, even just a hook into vmbuilder would be pretty cool.. ;) vmbuilder --bug 559033 | 19:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 559033 in evolution "Evolution crashes on changing task priority" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/559033 | 19:18 |
| smoser | SpamapS, yeah, i really think something like that woudlbe valuable. A similar thing is doable with testdrive, but with ec2 you dont have to download anything | 19:18 |
| smoser | how vmbuilder ? | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | well you'd end up with a vm that starts up with the offending package installed. ;) | 19:18 |
| SpamapS | (I just discovered vmbuilder 2 days ago btw.. I may not understand its full power ;) | 19:19 |
| smoser | SpamapS, well as far as ease of use goes, i would recommend testdrive over vm-builder | 19:23 |
| smoser | test drive - > launch instance -> apt-get intsall ... | 19:23 |
| SpamapS | never used testdrive, but maybe its what I should be using instead of fighting with vmbuilder | 19:24 |
| smoser | vm-builder -> some long command line set -> lots of image building , downloading -> boot instance. | 19:24 |
| smoser | testdrive just boots the isos, but does so very easily | 19:24 |
| smoser | if you want to "testdrive" a server install, i suggest the UEC images and booting them in kvm | 19:25 |
| smoser | testdrive (maybe in natty now) has support for uec images as things to 'test drive' | 19:25 |
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| jmgalloway | does the uec node controller have to have vt extensions on the CPU? | 20:36 |
| jmgalloway | anyone know why when I update max_cores, I dont see an increase in vm's I can launch on the cloud controller? | 20:48 |
| Makere | so when I shutdown nodes/controllers, what happens to VM's? | 20:52 |
| jmgalloway | their process stops execution | 20:53 |
| Makere | jmgalloway: VT is needed | 20:53 |
| jmgalloway | yeah, I was just hoping to use some older computers for nodes... | 20:53 |
| jmgalloway | I still dont understand about the max_cores not updating | 20:54 |
| Makere | can't help with that | 20:54 |
| Makere | reboot/waiting solves alot | 20:54 |
| jmgalloway | I tried rebooting the entire cloud, restarting nc, cc, and eucalyptus....doesnt update | 20:55 |
| Makere | I'd look it up for you but I broke my right index finger and typing with one hand is a bit time consuming | 20:55 |
| jmgalloway | I had it working before | 20:56 |
| Makere | did you try clean start with cc? | 20:56 |
| jmgalloway | seems like you just update the variable then restart the services and it works | 20:56 |
| jmgalloway | hmm | 20:56 |
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| jmgalloway | let me try that | 20:56 |
| jmgalloway | tried, didnt work | 20:58 |
| jmgalloway | #MAX_MEM=2048 | 20:58 |
| jmgalloway | #MAX_CORES="8" | 20:58 |
| jmgalloway | #MAX_DISK="100" | 20:58 |
| Makere | you need to set max_cores on all NC's | 20:58 |
| jmgalloway | that's the eucalyptus.conf of the node controllers | 20:58 |
| Makere | and remove the # | 20:59 |
| jmgalloway | lol! wow | 20:59 |
| jmgalloway | thanks | 20:59 |
| Makere | :) | 20:59 |
| Makere | np | 20:59 |
| jmgalloway | I was searching everywhere! | 20:59 |
| Makere | lol | 20:59 |
| Makere | # is for comment | 20:59 |
| Makere | they've been commented out | 20:59 |
| jmgalloway | yeah...lol | 20:59 |
| jmgalloway | y | 21:00 |
| Makere | what is the max_cores supposed to do? | 21:00 |
| Makere | rather new to uec | 21:00 |
| jmgalloway | if you change that variable on the node controllers...it will increase the number of vm's you can execute on the node controllers cpu | 21:01 |
| jmgalloway | kvm allows for 8*#of physical cores | 21:01 |
| Makere | so dual core can run 16 VM's? | 21:01 |
| Makere | thanks, this seems to be something useful | 21:02 |
| jmgalloway | yes but be careful..make sure you leave cpu power for the underlying os | 21:02 |
| Makere | would be cooler if you could set that on cc instead of needing to set it on all nc's | 21:03 |
| jmgalloway | I have dual core cpus..I run 4 vm's per physical core | 21:03 |
| jmgalloway | I know | 21:03 |
| jmgalloway | well you could just dd a hard drive and put it in a lot of node controllers...everything setup then | 21:04 |
| jmgalloway | what kind of setup do you have for your cloud? | 21:05 |
| jmgalloway | i have a build for adding node controllers for around $400 each.. quad core intel, 4GB ram, 320GB hds.. able to run 16 vm's | 21:06 |
| Makere | doing a school project | 21:08 |
| Makere | got around 60 comps for short period of time | 21:08 |
| Makere | first settings up everythin with around 10 comps | 21:08 |
| jmgalloway | 60 cool | 21:08 |
| Makere | 2 cluster controllers | 21:08 |
| Makere | one clc (that has walrus) | 21:09 |
| Makere | CC's have storage controllers also | 21:09 |
| Makere | might be adding more CC's | 21:09 |
| jmgalloway | I have one clc, one walrus, one cc/sc, and two node controllers | 21:09 |
| jmgalloway | I am only able to run 16 vm's right now | 21:10 |
| Makere | kinda just have had only trouble with the cloud | 21:10 |
| jmgalloway | the cloud? | 21:10 |
| jmgalloway | cloud controller? | 21:10 |
| Makere | mostly getting VM's running | 21:10 |
| Makere | but it's all fine now | 21:11 |
| jmgalloway | have you tried hybridfox? | 21:11 |
| Makere | yes we use it | 21:11 |
| jmgalloway | It seems sketchy...sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt | 21:11 |
| Makere | had trouble getting bundled images to run, and storage images are crap | 21:11 |
| Makere | hybridfox works nice after you restart it couple times | 21:11 |
| Makere | like if you get an error, close the tab and open new obe | 21:12 |
| Makere | one | 21:12 |
| Makere | the comps we got are C2D E6300 and 4Gigs RAM | 21:12 |
| jmgalloway | yeah, I have problems with the keys and permissions using hybridfox. It will launch vm's but wont let me connect to them even though I use the key it made for me | 21:12 |
| jmgalloway | 60 of those? | 21:13 |
| Makere | yes | 21:13 |
| Makere | around 60 | 21:13 |
| Makere | +/-5 | 21:13 |
| jmgalloway | I have 6 total machines | 21:13 |
| jmgalloway | I am writing a front end for my cloud...since everything I'm building is hosted on a private network(s) I have to give users that are not attached to my private network the ability to launch vm's | 21:14 |
| jmgalloway | php is running on my cloud controller..communicates in the browser with the WAN users and spawns vm's with a gui interface. it has to keep up with ports and update the iptables since I only have one WAN address | 21:16 |
| Makere | sounds nice | 21:18 |
| Makere | with that amount of machines, why don't you integrate CLC/CC/Walrus? | 21:19 |
| Makere | then you could have second storage controller and 2 more nodes | 21:19 |
| jmgalloway | I want it to be fully scalable | 21:19 |
| jmgalloway | which it would be..but making them work with different physical machines is more interesting than combining them together. | 21:20 |
| jmgalloway | does the sc and cc still have to be on the same box? | 21:20 |
| Makere | trnope | 21:20 |
| Makere | nope* | 21:20 |
| Makere | atleast I think | 21:20 |
| Makere | :D | 21:20 |
| jmgalloway | I thought it did in euca 1.6...I'm using ubuntu 10.10 and euca 2.0 | 21:20 |
| Makere | well it can be | 21:21 |
| jmgalloway | yeah, mine are combined | 21:21 |
| Makere | as I say, rather new to this | 21:21 |
| jmgalloway | sc/cc | 21:21 |
| jmgalloway | open eucalyptus doesnt natively support windows images either | 21:21 |
| jmgalloway | but it can be done | 21:21 |
| jmgalloway | all of my vm's are linux, single core, 256mb ram | 21:22 |
| Makere | you planning to run the cloud for a long time? | 21:22 |
| jmgalloway | until I graduate | 21:22 |
| jmgalloway | 2 years possible | 21:22 |
| Makere | I think you should be able to put storage controller and cc to 2 diff machines | 21:24 |
| Makere | but just reading in between lines | 21:24 |
| Makere | of ubuntu instructions | 21:24 |
| Makere | CC needs a storage controller | 21:24 |
| Makere | but it can be on other pc afaik | 21:24 |
| jmgalloway | the one thing I'm not sure about is how to make persistent storage that is mounted automatically for users when they launch vm's | 21:25 |
| Makere | create storage volumes and script to launch vm? | 21:25 |
| Makere | one that launches vm and mounts the volume | 21:25 |
| Makere | or perhaps launches vm, creates volume and mounts it | 21:26 |
| jmgalloway | I need to look into that | 21:26 |
| jmgalloway | also, I need to look into quotas | 21:26 |
| jmgalloway | so a single user cant spawn enough vm's to use all resources | 21:26 |
| Makere | ye | 21:27 |
| Makere | I'm in rather tight schedule so I try avoid completely custom solutions | 21:27 |
| jmgalloway | In my setup, users will not be able to spawn vm's by command line | 21:27 |
| jmgalloway | yeah | 21:27 |
| jmgalloway | I have 2 years haha | 21:27 |
| jmgalloway | or 1.5 years to go | 21:27 |
| Makere | I think we have like 4 weeks left | 21:28 |
| jmgalloway | oh cool. is your cloud interface public? | 21:28 |
| Makere | nope | 21:28 |
| Makere | it's a school project | 21:28 |
| jmgalloway | mine is...although I just threw together a front end web site | 21:28 |
| Makere | we need to figure out if it's useful to teach cloud to students | 21:28 |
| Makere | got like less than 2 months in total to get everything setup, demo'ed, written documents etc | 21:29 |
| jmgalloway | sure it is, its compatible with aws | 21:29 |
| Makere | really tight schedule | 21:29 |
| jmgalloway | are you working in a group? | 21:29 |
| Makere | group of 4 | 21:29 |
| jmgalloway | ah cool. I'm doing this all alone | 21:29 |
| Makere | not to sound cocky, but I seem to be the only one knowing wtf were doing | 21:30 |
| jmgalloway | there's a lot to wrap your head around to administrate a cloud setup | 21:30 |
| Makere | meaning I do almost everything | 21:30 |
| Makere | and teach others lol | 21:30 |
| Makere | naw the other guy gets around too | 21:31 |
| Makere | but the other 2 | 21:31 |
| Makere | gah | 21:31 |
| jmgalloway | my advisor is teaching a cloud class in the spring, and she's using this cloud in the class | 21:31 |
| jmgalloway | I have to lock it down | 21:31 |
| Makere | I would need to walk them thru by hand | 21:31 |
| Makere | hehe | 21:31 |
| Makere | remember to make lot's of security groups | 21:31 |
| jmgalloway | well i really just need two security groups..one for me, and one for everyone else | 21:32 |
| Makere | can you change the security groups between machines after launching them? | 21:32 |
| Makere | atleast hybrid fox didn't seem able | 21:32 |
| jmgalloway | I dont know. I am going for a custom interface that gives the user a gui..so they click to launch vm's, not caring about how it launches or security groups..they will just have access to the vm | 21:33 |
| Makere | heh ok | 21:33 |
| Makere | I'm off to bed, night | 21:33 |
| jmgalloway | php will generate the script to launch the vm, vm size, security groups, etc | 21:33 |
| jmgalloway | later | 21:33 |
| Makere | we got a blog @ silvercloud.wordpress.com if you want to see how our project is doing | 21:33 |
| Makere | sorrt | 21:34 |
| Makere | sorry | 21:34 |
| Makere | silvercloudproject.wordpress.com | 21:34 |
| Makere | (some blatant advertising :) | 21:35 |
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| jmgalloway | ok cool | 21:44 |
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