[00:12] cjohnston, haha, you wish :) [00:12] JanC, i mean its a Pentium 4 3Ghz from 2003 with 1GB of RAM [00:13] you could put more RAM in it... ;) [00:14] OTOH, new hardware is always nice of course [00:14] JanC, its difficult to find the RAM it takes [00:14] JanC, it runs Ubuntu very well tbh, but im not just a "i want web and email" kind of person, i compile stuff, i do 3d design, etc [00:15] G44 [00:15] cjohnston, G44? [00:15] yup [00:15] I missed the ctrl [00:15] you lost me there :) [00:16] CTRL + G + # switches my window # [00:16] unless it's some weird kind of RAM, I'm sure it's not that difficult to find it (actually, I might have some laying around for P4s...) [00:17] anwyay, newer CPU might be useful too for you [00:17] JanC, its plain DDR400 RAM but it seems all the RAM i find is about 3 pins too big, too small for it :( [00:17] cjohnston, ah, ok [00:18] there are computer sales fairs around here (where we have Ubuntu booths with our locoteam) that I'm pretty sure you could find that RAM [00:19] yeah [00:19] might be 2nd hand though [00:19] JanC, you live in the US? [00:19] nope, Belgium [00:19] ah ok [00:20] in Australia we have nothing like that [00:20] it sucks :( [00:20] but I guess there must be shops in the large cities that keep that sort of stuff [00:21] JanC, meh, nothing as old as DDR [00:21] heh [00:21] most have DDR 800 minimum [00:21] what do companies do that still have P4s around? [00:21] DDR800 should work too AFAIK? [00:22] JanC, no, my machine can handle only up ti 533Mhz [00:22] to* [00:22] then the DDR800 will work at 533 MHz [00:22] im not sure what large companies do with their machines over here [00:22] possibly [00:23] it should work, oherwise somebody didn't follow the specs ;) [00:23] yeah [00:23] my college is selling off their somewhat old dual cores which are decent [00:23] at the end of the year [00:23] im hoping i can grab a few for $100 :) [00:26] that's a nice price, if the rest of the hardware is okay [00:57] JanC, yeah, they have E6600's in them or something similar and they have 6GB's of DDR800 or maybe its DDR2, i cant remember [01:01] certainly DDR2 [01:06] yeah [01:06] i would say so [01:07] JanC, we are upgrading our college machines because we do a lot of virtualizatiion stuff and trying to run a server OS and 4+ VM's on a dual core is asking for trouble :) [01:08] actually, unless you're doing load-testing it's mostly RAM that's important ;) [01:09] well, as long as you don't do anything really CPU-intensive [01:10] JanC, yeah, they originally had only 2GB's each, but now they have hit their limit, we have to upgrade the whole lot in order to add more RAM [01:11] our server is not very powerful either, its only a pair of dual core xeons [01:11] with 8GB's of RAM [02:31] Morning all. [02:32] o/ [02:33] cjohnston: Another restart? :/ [02:33] ya [02:33] I know [02:37] * nigelb huggles AlanBell [07:56] good morning everyone! [08:04] heya kim0! good morning! [08:05] dpm: howdy morning [08:05] * kim0 waves to everyone [08:12] Morning dpm and kim0 :) [08:12] * nigelb waves to ara [08:12] nigelb: hey there [08:12] hey kim0! [08:13] :) [08:13] Finally, Friday has arrived \o/ [08:13] :) [08:42] good morning [08:44] morning Daniel [08:45] hi jussi [08:54] 'lo all [08:55] heya dholbach! [08:55] kim0, hey you around? [08:56] dpm, did you see joe formatted and added an interview to ubuntu-news for your review :-) [08:58] akgraner, ah, awesome!, I've just seen the e-mail, thanks for the heads up. I'll go and review the interview now [09:01] tgif :) [09:02] dpm - thank you :-) [09:03] akgraner, I'm just looking at it and it seems Joe has done a wonderful job with the formatting and all! [09:04] morning dholbach, jussi, duanedesign [09:04] akgraner: Morning! [09:04] nigelb, morning :-) [09:05] dpm, yep I thought so to - I can change his permissions so he can add the pics and publish only the interviews he is author of...or do you still want to review the interviews before he posts them? [09:05] nigelb: hello! [09:06] aloha [09:07] I hate my computer - I think my harddrive is dieing a slow death - it's not a good thing when you can hear it grinding and spinning is it? :-/ [09:08] akgraner, I'll leave the decision on permissions to you, as I don't know Joe much yet. I would still like to quickly review the interviews before they are published (without becoming a blocker, a quick ping will do, and if I don't have time they should be published anyway) [09:10] dpm - roger that :-) thanks - just making sure all the ducks are in a row before I say - it's all yours have fun :-) [09:13] duanedesign: tgif indeed :) [09:18] akgraner: hey howdy [09:20] oktodays plan of action is do something productive! [09:25] czajkowski: milk, two sugars please. [09:36] I was thinking more of drawing up a marketing plan, a press release for pg event and signing up for london events. tea seems a lot easier [09:39] AlanBell: grand will buzz in the afternoon so [10:52] * czajkowski bangs her head off the wall, press releases means I've to use my noggin! [11:13] * AlanBell wonders if banging it against a wall is the normal preparation technique for the use of a noggin [11:17] :) [11:22] whoo tick off the list [11:24] got tea? [11:26] popey: eh no but did get one marketing blurb done [11:26] now just need to book flights.accomomodation and register for event [12:06] arg, someone mentioned about a live classroom video thingy [12:06] It was a fun site, but now I don't remember the URL :( [12:19] randa: since when am I now Linda eh ;) [12:24] Is it 'an article at that blog', or 'and article on that blog'? [12:30] an article on that blog would be more correct [12:30] or an article on a blog depending on context [12:31] * nisshh is very annoyed [12:31] czajkowski: ok, thank you [12:32] nisshh: sup [12:32] sense: no bother [12:32] hey czajkowski :) [12:34] czajkowski, i just had to explain to a user why my application turns negro (its a bug in the ambience/radiance themes on maverick) [12:34] right [12:34] his response was "Well, i cant use an app that doesnt work properly, i guess ill have to use GTG now" [12:35] that hurt :) [12:35] ah ok [12:35] so im now annoyed because i have no idea what causes that bug [12:36] did you/they file a bug [12:36] and i want to release the next version of my app this weekend [12:36] yeah [12:36] i filed a bug against the theme package in maverick on lp [12:36] but it hasnt been touched [12:36] its a very strange bug [12:38] nisshh: what is the app? [12:39] duanedesign, http://launchpad.net/pytask [12:39] Rick's been helping me out with it, in exchange i contributed code and docs to Quickly and quickly-widgets :) [12:44] nisshh: nice [12:44] duanedesign, thanks :) [12:45] nisshh: i am hoping to get a release out this weekend myself. Still wrestling with the treeview bug i have :P [12:46] duanedesign, ah yes, im still wrestling with my indicator code, its decidedly fiddly :) [12:49] czajkowski: linda: beautiful [12:50] in spanish czajkowski :) [12:57] ahhh [12:58] thank you [12:58] I now know a spanish word :) thought you had just given me a new name [13:36] just had an weird experience jumping over the neighbour's fence to our terrace. Stupid me had left the keys at the main entrance door. The neighbours don't tend to go out much, and they didn't recognize me despite the fact we live there for more than one year. I had to show him my national ID card [13:36] hah [13:37] I have this nightmare of always locking myself out during the day and there's no one around to help me [13:37] lol [13:37] Repeat with me... "never leave the keys inside when going for lunch" "never leave the keys inside when going for lunch" ... [13:37] dpm: wow, your neighbor of 1 year doesn't recognize you? [13:37] dpm: where I live that kind of jumping into other yards can get you shot! [13:37] jcastro: This is precisely why I hate autolocking doors [13:37] (just kidding) [13:37] jcastro, :-) [13:38] * nigelb has a funny image of jcastro with a gun in a rocking chair. [13:38] here they just give you glances that could kill [13:40] \o/ impossible to lock keys in my house :) [13:40] not impossible for my wife to leave the key in the door when she's inside, preventing me from being able to get in [13:40] .. at 3am [13:42] popey: well, that's an obvious "on purpose" [13:42] I mean, that's what I would do [13:42] :) [13:43] do we ship pastebinit by default? [13:43] nope [13:44] tis universe innit [13:45] would be nice to do an ubuntu patch to pastebinit package to configure it for paste.ubuntu.com [13:46] be nice if paste.ubuntu.com didn't depend on launchpad accounts [13:47] it does? [13:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/534274/ vs http://paste.ubuntu.com/534274/plain/ [13:48] watch for the redirect through launchpad [13:49] http://askubuntu.com/questions/13989/how-to-enable-hp-pavillon-dv9000-pci-express-card [13:49] oh boy [13:50] why is PCI-X not hot-pluggable? [13:50] on a desktop? [13:50] its a laptop [13:50] jcastro, oh wow :) [13:51] oh dude [13:51] it's a slot [13:51] ya [13:51] next gen pcmcia [13:51] * jcastro edits [13:51] the sil 3124 should be _well_ supported [13:51] oh, thats yours [13:51] duh [13:51] ok, redited .... [13:55] this is disturbing [13:56] popey: the google spiders are full on now, googling for his laptop comes up with his question [13:56] :) [13:57] popey: I have been waking up early and staying up late to answer questions [13:57] am I weird? [13:57] no [13:57] i used to do that on lp answers [13:57] which is how I got insane amounts of karma [13:57] that is now all decaying? :) [13:57] yeah, that was 3 years ago [13:57] 4! [13:58] jcastro, someone made a joke the other day that you must do ask ubuntu in your sleep :) [13:59] jcastro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13981/recover-lvm-after-hdd-crash [13:59] am I reading that right? [13:59] he has 4x partitions and made an LVM from it [13:59] with no raid [13:59] if so, then dataloss central [14:00] I dunno, I avoid anything LVM, too complicated [14:00] I set up 4 drives with mdadm, that's as far as I go [14:11] nisshh: not in my sleep, it definately costs me sleep [14:11] I have an addictive personality [14:13] jcastro: as do I for everything except sleep [14:13] which is a pain as I do like sleep [14:13] jcastro: Pro-Tip! Don't play minecraft [14:18] jcastro, hehe [14:18] popey, +1 :) [14:19] that game looks horrible [14:19] Will it get a graphics overhaul? [14:19] It needs one. [14:19] i dunno, i have never played it :) [14:19] i play Urban Terror and Assault Cube mostly :) [14:20] it is amazingly great jcastro [14:20] my 4 year old son comes to me at the weekend.. "daddy daddy! can we play minecraft!?" [14:21] scares the bejeezus out of both of us :) [14:21] <- great parent ;) [14:21] popey: that sounds suspiciously like "daddy daddy can you make it so I don't develop social skills ever?" [14:21] :) [14:21] popey: your kid is kinda cute though [14:21] he's a good lad [14:21] kinda!? [14:21] he is :) [14:21] thats the last lasagne I'm making you! [14:22] (please babysit) [14:22] :( [14:22] haha [14:22] Lasagne! [14:22] :D [14:22] that was a divine lasagne! [14:22] I've said I'll baby sit any time, the kids are lovely [14:22] stop! your making me hungry! :) [14:22] sophie is adorable with her little brother keeping an eye on him and helping [14:23] :) thanks [14:23] she is a sweetheart [14:23] i made scrambled egg on toast with bacon for them this morning [14:23] I got _no_ bacon :( [14:23] this is suboptimal [14:23] hehe [14:24] no maple syrup, this is clearly suboptimal [14:25] YES! [14:25] ive now been awake for 29 hours straight [14:25] maple syrup stays where it should be at breakfast time! [14:25] (in the jar) [14:25] but im still wide awake..... [14:47] akgraner: ping [14:54] czajkowski, pong [14:57] akgraner: you ever found any decent project manager oss softwre [14:57] about to use http://www.taskjuggler.org [14:57] yep - I've tried it :-) [14:58] liked ?| [14:59] for some things it was good but even it didn't do what I needed it to in an easy intuitive way [15:01] hmm ok [15:01] when you say didn't do what you wanted it to do [15:01] what was that ? [15:02] or was it you think it could have done things in an easier manner [15:02] both [15:02] hmm ok [15:03] Let me finish up a couple of things and I'll give you more details [15:03] try it - it might work for you [15:03] ok thanks [15:03] Fedora and RHEL both used to use it - not sure if they still do or not [15:05] hmm [15:05] getting [15:05] configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found! [15:05] Please check whether you installed KDE correctly [15:05] sigh [15:05] prefer when i can install things without having to do it line by line [15:05] things then work [15:27] UDS in barcelona was what? UDS-K? [15:28] aye [15:28] karmic my first one [15:29] http://pix.ie/czajkowski/album/344636 [15:29] czajkowski: Which was the most fun UDS to date? :) [15:31] jcastro: I have an interesting question about to hit askubuntu.com :D [15:32] ah, nice memories in BCN. It was my first UDS too and I remember I was freaking nervous trying to lead the translations sessions :) [15:33] nigelb: hmmm Karmic then dallas tbh [15:33] nigelb: there was a lot more folks hanging out in the evening time in the lobby and randomly working on things [15:34] czajkowski: Ah, that sounds like fun :) [15:34] yes it was [15:39] jcastro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14038/what-would-be-the-most-practical-way-for-a-web-developer-to-develop-on-ubuntu-but :) [15:40] czajkowski: I think that is something that I was missing in Orlando: a central lobby-like place where everyone could sit to chat or get some work done. We did have that in Brussels, which was a great space but which had horrible wifi. [15:40] sense: so where did you all like hang out? [15:40] sense: Also, good time talking to you last night. Made me sit and think on what I wanted to accomplish :) [15:40] There wasn't really a place for that. I think some stayed on the convention centre. [15:41] nigelb: Good! I'm glad that helped. [15:41] I ended up deciding to use python. What better way to learn it :) [15:41] sense: in orlando, there was the bar area, or down by the breakfast area where folks sat outside for smoking and having a drink [15:42] ah there, yes [15:42] nigelb: Python! :) I'm curious how you'll find it to work with. [15:43] czajkowski: I believe that was the one where it was like Wednesday before I was like "who are you?" [15:45] heh :) [15:46] I'm going, see you! [15:49] hi jono [15:49] hey dholbach [15:49] dholbach, which BP was not approved btw? [15:49] the one I sent in that email [15:50] which email? [15:50] https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-development-outreach-resources [15:50] can you link me to it? [15:50] I put a link in that email too :-P [15:50] It says "Proposed for natty " [15:50] ahhh ok [15:51] fixed [15:51] thanks [15:51] jono: ... and I'm blocking on unity.u.c access pls. [15:51] jono: good morning friday! :) [15:51] * jcastro finds other stuff to slam jono with [15:51] jono, I'll update the burndown line monday morning then [15:51] jcastro, I know, it is not working for me either, I am trying to get it fixed with IS [15:51] thanks dholbach [15:54] jcastro, also how is this blocking you? [15:55] You wanted me to get a bunch of things out of the way with unity.u.c before they finished fixing unity for the bugworking-tasks [15:55] things like this: [jorge] Start work porting the presentation into a places API and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Places into unity.ubuntu.com : TODO [15:55] etc [15:55] I've got his presentation and the API docs, etc. [15:56] jono: sorry, I don't mean like totally blocked as in I have nothing to do [15:56] ok [15:56] but more of a "man it would be a perfect time to bust out unity.u.c tasks before I get slammed with the bug thing and the places thing" [15:56] jcastro, talk to IS, I think its best if you talk to them directly [15:56] Noooooooooooooo [15:56] right, on it. [16:01] morning all [16:02] jono: also, do an update. : [16:02] lol re. vader [16:02] update? [16:02] :-) [16:03] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/3.1.4-0ubuntu4 [16:03] that's the one we've been waiting for! [16:04] jcastro, nice! [16:05] dpm, great work on the twitter feed? [16:05] oops, no question mark needed [16:05] just great work :-) [16:05] 54 followers! that's awesome :-) [16:05] jono, heh, thanks :-) [16:06] jcastro, did you find out which twitter accounts we have? [16:06] the FB group seems to have more success, nearly 600 "likes" :) [16:06] dpm, sweet! [16:06] jono: no response yet, but @ubuntudev is now daniel's [16:07] dholbach, ok, cool, I would like to see you actively tweeting to ubuntudev on Twitter [16:07] dholbach, do you also have the identi.ca account set up too? [16:07] I would like to see you tweet to both from gwibber [16:08] understood [16:09] dholbach, can you register the identi.ca one now, it doesn't exist [16:09] I'm on it [16:09] and then tweet something to both dholbach and I will mention both accounts and the FB page on the Ubuntu Facebook page [16:09] get it filled up :-) [16:11] gonna do a FF so I have @ubuntul10n @ubuntudev @ubuntucloud #ubuntu #locoteams - what other official Ubuntu twitter accounts? [16:11] do the platform status one [16:11] that is handy [16:11] let me find it [16:11] thanks for doing this dholbach [16:12] jono, done [16:12] dholbach, these are fantastic channels for reaching out to folks [16:13] @ubuntustatus is robbie [16:13] jcastro, cool [16:14] dholbach, so I recommend you post the same article links to all through [16:14] lol. The most boring ubuntu twitter account: http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntusecurity [16:14] al, three [16:14] jono, hm? [16:15] dholbach, when you post links to cool things going on, articles etc, post them to the ubuntudev accounts on twitter and identi.ca and also the Facebook page [16:15] then everyone gets it [16:15] yes [16:15] done [16:15] sweet :-) [16:15] you can set identi.ca to autopost to twitter iirc [16:16] jcastro, not sure you can to pages, just to accounts [16:16] oh, I see what you mean [16:16] dholbach, ok when you have posted a few tweets to the twitter/identi.ca accounts I will Facebook it - ready when you are [16:16] wait, twitter has pages? [16:17] jcastro, no [16:17] Facebook pages [16:19] oh oh, I mean for posting to the account [16:20] jono: why does everyone get a FB page and I don't :) [16:20] kim0, go and make one :-) [16:20] hehe okie [16:20] kim0, yeah we need a cloud page for sure! [16:20] kim0, call it Ubuntu Cloud [16:20] kim0, http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php?campaign_id=372931622610&placement=pghm&extra_1=0 [16:21] make sure you make it an Official page [16:21] jono: thank you! [16:21] for a Brand [16:21] kim0, ping me when it is created and I will Facebook it [16:22] dholbach, Facebooked - let's see how many followers we get now :-) [16:22] jono: Official page for "Product" ? [16:22] jono, sweet [16:22] jono, I'll post some more stuff on Monday [16:22] kim0, yep [16:22] thanks dholbach, just update it as you work and also as you see cool things that people are going [16:22] I really want us to highlight great work via these resources [16:23] jono: I'll link the FB page to ubuntucloud twitter account, makes sense ? [16:24] kim0, absolutely [16:24] kim0, are you owning ubuntucloud on identi.ca too? [16:24] jono: I own it .. although I don't really post to it [16:25] kim0, everything you post to twitter should go to identi.ca too [16:25] need to link it with twitter too .. [16:25] kim0, Gwibber can do this easily [16:25] yep [16:25] thanks [16:25] awesome, look at us, bunch of social media oddballs! [16:25] dholbach, jcastro, kim0, dpm you guys rock :-) [16:25] note how I even included jcastro [16:25] lol [16:25] HAHA [16:26] I am trying to remain quiet [16:26] that was hilarious [16:26] before you make me use identica [16:27] *grin* [16:27] jcastro, lol [16:27] jcastro: haha [16:27] here's how I can help though [16:27] there is a large JD with my name on it for after work today, with a possble cheeky chinese take away [16:27] "I think we should harness the power of 1998 and use ICQ" [16:27] paultag: yo, we need reddit juice [16:27]