[00:12] <nisshh> cjohnston, haha, you wish :)
[00:12] <nisshh> JanC, i mean its a Pentium 4 3Ghz from 2003 with 1GB of RAM
[00:13] <JanC> you could put more RAM in it...  ;)
[00:14] <JanC> OTOH, new hardware is always nice of course
[00:14] <nisshh> JanC, its difficult to find the RAM it takes
[00:14] <nisshh> JanC, it runs Ubuntu very well tbh, but im not just a "i want web and email" kind of person, i compile stuff, i do 3d design, etc
[00:15] <cjohnston> G44
[00:15] <nisshh> cjohnston, G44?
[00:15] <cjohnston> yup
[00:15] <cjohnston> I missed the ctrl
[00:15] <nisshh> you lost me there :)
[00:16] <cjohnston> CTRL + G + # switches my window #
[00:16] <JanC> unless it's some weird kind of RAM, I'm sure it's not that difficult to find it (actually, I might have some laying around for P4s...)
[00:17] <JanC> anwyay, newer CPU might be useful too for you
[00:17] <nisshh> JanC, its plain DDR400 RAM but it seems all the RAM i find is about 3 pins too big, too small for it :(
[00:17] <nisshh> cjohnston, ah, ok
[00:18] <JanC> there are computer sales fairs around here (where we have Ubuntu booths with our locoteam) that I'm pretty sure you could find that RAM
[00:19] <nisshh> yeah
[00:19] <JanC> might be 2nd hand though
[00:19] <nisshh> JanC, you live in the US?
[00:19] <JanC> nope, Belgium
[00:19] <nisshh> ah ok
[00:20] <nisshh> in Australia we have nothing like that
[00:20] <nisshh> it sucks :(
[00:20] <JanC> but I guess there must be shops in the large cities that keep that sort of stuff
[00:21] <nisshh> JanC, meh, nothing as old as DDR
[00:21] <JanC> heh
[00:21] <nisshh> most have DDR 800 minimum
[00:21] <JanC> what do companies do that still have P4s around?
[00:21] <JanC> DDR800 should work too AFAIK?
[00:22] <nisshh> JanC, no, my machine can handle only up ti 533Mhz
[00:22] <nisshh> to*
[00:22] <JanC> then the DDR800 will work at 533 MHz
[00:22] <nisshh> im not sure what large companies do with their machines over here
[00:22] <nisshh> possibly
[00:23] <JanC> it should work, oherwise somebody didn't follow the specs  ;)
[00:23] <nisshh> yeah
[00:23] <nisshh> my college is selling off their somewhat old dual cores which are decent
[00:23] <nisshh> at the end of the year
[00:23] <nisshh> im hoping i can grab a few for $100 :)
[00:26] <JanC> that's a nice price, if the rest of the hardware is okay
[00:57] <nisshh> JanC, yeah, they have E6600's in them or something similar and they have 6GB's of DDR800 or maybe its DDR2, i cant remember
[01:01] <JanC> certainly DDR2
[01:06] <nisshh> yeah
[01:06] <nisshh> i would say so
[01:07] <nisshh> JanC, we are upgrading our college machines because we do a lot of virtualizatiion stuff and trying to run a server OS and 4+ VM's on a dual core is asking for trouble :)
[01:08] <JanC> actually, unless you're doing load-testing it's mostly RAM that's important  ;)
[01:09] <JanC> well, as long as you don't do anything really CPU-intensive
[01:10] <nisshh> JanC, yeah, they originally had only 2GB's each, but now they have hit their limit, we have to upgrade the whole lot in order to add more RAM
[01:11] <nisshh> our server is not very powerful either, its only a pair of dual core xeons
[01:11] <nisshh> with 8GB's of RAM
[02:31] <nigelb> Morning all.
[02:32] <cjohnston> o/
[02:33] <nigelb> cjohnston: Another restart? :/
[02:33] <cjohnston> ya
[02:33] <cjohnston> I know
[02:37]  * nigelb huggles AlanBell 
[07:56] <dpm> good morning everyone!
[08:04] <dpm> heya kim0! good morning!
[08:05] <kim0> dpm: howdy morning
[08:05]  * kim0 waves to everyone
[08:12] <nigelb> Morning dpm and kim0 :)
[08:12]  * nigelb waves to ara
[08:12] <kim0> nigelb: hey there
[08:12] <dpm> hey kim0!
[08:13] <kim0> :)
[08:13] <nigelb> Finally, Friday has arrived \o/
[08:13] <dpm> :)
[08:42] <dholbach> good morning
[08:44] <jussi> morning Daniel
[08:45] <dholbach> hi jussi
[08:54] <duanedesign> 'lo all
[08:55] <dpm> heya dholbach!
[08:55] <akgraner> kim0, hey you around?
[08:56] <akgraner> dpm, did you see joe formatted and added an interview to ubuntu-news for your review :-)
[08:58] <dpm> akgraner, ah, awesome!, I've just seen the e-mail, thanks for the heads up. I'll go and review the interview now
[09:01] <duanedesign> tgif :)
[09:02] <akgraner> dpm - thank you :-)
[09:03] <dpm> akgraner, I'm just looking at it and it seems Joe has done a wonderful job with the formatting and all!
[09:04] <nigelb> morning dholbach, jussi, duanedesign
[09:04] <nigelb> akgraner: Morning!
[09:04] <akgraner> nigelb, morning :-)
[09:05] <akgraner> dpm, yep I thought so to - I can change his permissions so he can add the pics and publish only the interviews he is author of...or do you still want to review the interviews before he posts them?
[09:05] <duanedesign> nigelb: hello!
[09:06] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:07] <akgraner> I hate my computer - I think my harddrive is dieing a slow death - it's not a good thing when you can hear it grinding and spinning is it? :-/
[09:08] <dpm> akgraner, I'll leave the decision on permissions to you, as I don't know Joe much yet. I would still like to quickly review the interviews before they are published (without becoming a blocker, a quick ping will do, and if I don't have time they should be published anyway)
[09:10] <akgraner> dpm - roger that :-)  thanks - just making sure all the ducks are in a row  before I say  - it's all yours have fun :-)
[09:13] <nigelb> duanedesign: tgif indeed :)
[09:18] <kim0> akgraner: hey howdy
[09:20] <czajkowski> oktodays plan of action is do something productive!
[09:25] <popey> czajkowski: milk, two sugars please.
[09:36] <czajkowski> I was thinking more of drawing up a marketing plan, a press release for pg event and signing up for london events. tea seems a lot easier
[09:39] <czajkowski> AlanBell: grand will buzz in the afternoon so
[10:52]  * czajkowski bangs her head off the wall, press releases means I've to use my noggin! 
[11:13]  * AlanBell wonders if banging it against a wall is the normal preparation technique for the use of a noggin
[11:17] <czajkowski> :)
[11:22] <czajkowski> whoo tick off the list
[11:24] <popey> got tea?
[11:26] <czajkowski> popey: eh no but did get one marketing blurb done
[11:26] <czajkowski> now just need to book flights.accomomodation and register for event
[12:06] <nigelb> arg, someone mentioned about a live classroom video thingy
[12:06] <nigelb> It was a fun site, but now I don't remember the URL :(
[12:19] <czajkowski> randa: since when am I now Linda eh ;)
[12:24] <sense> Is it 'an article at that blog', or 'and article on that blog'?
[12:30] <czajkowski> an article on that blog would be more correct
[12:30] <czajkowski> or an article on a blog depending on context
[12:31]  * nisshh is very annoyed
[12:31] <sense> czajkowski: ok, thank you
[12:32] <czajkowski> nisshh: sup
[12:32] <czajkowski> sense: no bother
[12:32] <nisshh> hey czajkowski :)
[12:34] <nisshh> czajkowski, i just had to explain to a user why my application turns negro (its a bug in the ambience/radiance themes on maverick)
[12:34] <czajkowski> right
[12:34] <nisshh> his response was "Well, i cant use an app that doesnt work properly, i guess ill have to use GTG now"
[12:35] <nisshh> that hurt :)
[12:35] <czajkowski> ah ok
[12:35] <nisshh> so im now annoyed because i have no idea what causes that bug
[12:36] <czajkowski> did you/they file a bug
[12:36] <nisshh> and i want to release the next version of my app this weekend
[12:36] <nisshh> yeah
[12:36] <nisshh> i filed a bug against the theme package in maverick on lp
[12:36] <nisshh> but it hasnt been touched
[12:36] <nisshh> its a very strange bug
[12:38] <duanedesign> nisshh: what is the app?
[12:39] <nisshh> duanedesign, http://launchpad.net/pytask
[12:39] <nisshh> Rick's been helping me out with it, in exchange i contributed code and docs to Quickly and quickly-widgets :)
[12:44] <duanedesign> nisshh: nice
[12:44] <nisshh> duanedesign, thanks :)
[12:45] <duanedesign> nisshh: i am hoping to get a release out this weekend myself. Still wrestling with the treeview bug i have :P
[12:46] <nisshh> duanedesign, ah yes, im still wrestling with my indicator code, its decidedly fiddly :)
[12:49] <randa> czajkowski: linda: beautiful
[12:50] <randa> in spanish czajkowski :)
[12:57] <czajkowski> ahhh
[12:58] <czajkowski> thank you
[12:58] <czajkowski> I now know a spanish word :) thought you had just given me a new name
[13:36] <dpm> just had an weird experience jumping over the neighbour's fence to our terrace. Stupid me had left the keys at the main entrance door. The neighbours don't tend to go out much, and they didn't recognize me despite the fact we live there for more than one year. I had to show him my national ID card
[13:36] <jcastro> hah
[13:37] <jcastro> I have this nightmare of always locking myself out during the day and there's no one around to help me
[13:37] <kim0> lol
[13:37] <dpm> Repeat with me... "never leave the keys inside when going for lunch" "never leave the keys inside when going for lunch" ...
[13:37] <nigelb> dpm: wow, your neighbor of 1 year doesn't recognize you?
[13:37] <jcastro> dpm: where I live that kind of jumping into other yards can get you shot!
[13:37] <nigelb> jcastro: This is precisely why I hate autolocking doors
[13:37] <jcastro> (just kidding)
[13:37] <dpm> jcastro, :-)
[13:38]  * nigelb has a funny image of jcastro with a gun in a rocking chair.
[13:38] <dpm> here they just give you glances that could kill
[13:40] <popey> \o/ impossible to lock keys in my house :)
[13:40] <popey> not impossible for my wife to leave the key in the door when she's inside, preventing me from being able to get in
[13:40] <popey> .. at 3am
[13:42] <jcastro> popey: well, that's an obvious "on purpose"
[13:42] <jcastro> I mean, that's what I would do
[13:42] <popey> :)
[13:43] <jcastro> do we ship pastebinit by default?
[13:43] <popey> nope
[13:44] <popey> tis universe innit
[13:45] <AlanBell> would be nice to do an ubuntu patch to pastebinit package to configure it for paste.ubuntu.com
[13:46] <popey> be nice if paste.ubuntu.com didn't depend on launchpad accounts
[13:47] <AlanBell> it does?
[13:48] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/534274/ vs http://paste.ubuntu.com/534274/plain/
[13:48] <popey> watch for the redirect through launchpad
[13:49] <jcastro> http://askubuntu.com/questions/13989/how-to-enable-hp-pavillon-dv9000-pci-express-card
[13:49] <jcastro> oh boy
[13:50] <popey> why is PCI-X not hot-pluggable?
[13:50] <jcastro> on a desktop?
[13:50] <popey> its a laptop
[13:50] <nisshh> jcastro, oh wow :)
[13:51] <jcastro> oh dude
[13:51] <jcastro> it's a slot
[13:51] <popey> ya
[13:51] <popey> next gen pcmcia
[13:51]  * jcastro edits
[13:51] <popey> the sil 3124 should be _well_ supported
[13:51] <popey> oh, thats yours
[13:51] <popey> duh
[13:51] <jcastro> ok, redited ....
[13:55] <jcastro> this is disturbing
[13:56] <jcastro> popey: the google spiders are full on now, googling for his laptop comes up with his question
[13:56] <popey> :)
[13:57] <jcastro> popey: I have been waking up early and staying up late to answer questions
[13:57] <jcastro> am I weird?
[13:57] <popey> no
[13:57] <popey> i used to do that on lp answers
[13:57] <popey> which is how I got insane amounts of karma
[13:57] <jcastro> that is now all decaying? :)
[13:57] <popey> yeah, that was 3 years ago
[13:57] <popey> 4!
[13:58] <nisshh> jcastro, someone made a joke the other day that you must do ask ubuntu in your sleep :)
[13:59] <popey> jcastro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13981/recover-lvm-after-hdd-crash
[13:59] <popey> am I reading that right?
[13:59] <popey> he has 4x partitions and made an LVM from it
[13:59] <popey> with no raid
[13:59] <popey> if so, then dataloss central
[14:00] <jcastro> I dunno, I avoid anything LVM, too complicated
[14:00] <jcastro> I set up 4 drives with mdadm, that's as far as I go
[14:11] <jcastro> nisshh: not in my sleep, it definately costs me sleep
[14:11] <jcastro> I have an addictive personality
[14:13] <czajkowski> jcastro: as do I for everything except sleep
[14:13] <czajkowski> which is a pain as I do like sleep
[14:13] <popey> jcastro: Pro-Tip! Don't play minecraft
[14:18] <nisshh> jcastro, hehe
[14:18] <nisshh> popey, +1 :)
[14:19] <jcastro> that game looks horrible
[14:19] <sense> Will it get a graphics overhaul?
[14:19] <sense> It needs one.
[14:19] <nisshh> i dunno, i have never played it :)
[14:19] <nisshh> i play Urban Terror and Assault Cube mostly :)
[14:20] <popey> it is amazingly great jcastro
[14:20] <popey> my 4 year old son comes to me at the weekend.. "daddy daddy! can we play minecraft!?"
[14:21] <popey> scares the bejeezus out of both of us :)
[14:21] <popey> <- great parent ;)
[14:21] <jcastro> popey: that sounds suspiciously like "daddy daddy can you make it so I don't develop social skills ever?"
[14:21] <popey> :)
[14:21] <czajkowski> popey: your kid is kinda cute though
[14:21] <popey> he's a good lad
[14:21] <popey> kinda!?
[14:21] <czajkowski> he is :)
[14:21] <popey> thats the last lasagne I'm making you!
[14:22] <popey> (please babysit)
[14:22] <czajkowski> :(
[14:22] <nisshh> haha
[14:22] <sense> Lasagne!
[14:22] <popey> :D
[14:22] <czajkowski> that was a divine lasagne!
[14:22] <czajkowski> I've said I'll baby sit any time, the kids are lovely
[14:22] <nisshh> stop! your making me hungry! :)
[14:22] <czajkowski> sophie is adorable with her little brother keeping an eye on him and helping
[14:23] <popey> :) thanks
[14:23] <popey> she is a sweetheart
[14:23] <popey> i made scrambled egg on toast with bacon for them this morning
[14:23] <popey> I got _no_ bacon :(
[14:23] <popey> this is suboptimal
[14:23] <nisshh> hehe
[14:24] <czajkowski> no maple syrup, this is clearly suboptimal
[14:25] <popey> YES!
[14:25] <nisshh> ive now been awake for 29 hours straight
[14:25] <popey> maple syrup stays where it should be at breakfast time!
[14:25] <popey> (in the jar)
[14:25] <nisshh> but im still wide awake.....
[14:47] <czajkowski> akgraner: ping
[14:54] <akgraner> czajkowski, pong
[14:57] <czajkowski> akgraner: you ever found any decent project manager oss softwre
[14:57] <czajkowski> about to use http://www.taskjuggler.org
[14:57] <akgraner> yep - I've tried it :-)
[14:58] <czajkowski> liked ?|
[14:59] <akgraner> for some things it was good but even it didn't do what I needed it to in an easy intuitive way
[15:01] <czajkowski> hmm ok
[15:01] <czajkowski> when you say didn't do what you wanted it to do
[15:01] <czajkowski> what was that ?
[15:02] <czajkowski> or  was it you think it could have done things in an easier manner
[15:02] <akgraner> both
[15:02] <czajkowski> hmm ok
[15:03] <akgraner> Let me finish up a couple of things and I'll give you more details
[15:03] <akgraner> try it  - it might work for you
[15:03] <czajkowski> ok thanks
[15:03] <akgraner> Fedora and RHEL both used to use it - not sure if they still do or not
[15:05] <czajkowski> hmm
[15:05] <czajkowski> getting
[15:05] <czajkowski> configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!
[15:05] <czajkowski> Please check whether you installed KDE correctly
[15:05] <czajkowski> sigh
[15:05] <czajkowski> prefer when i can install things without having to do it line by line
[15:05] <czajkowski> things then work
[15:27] <jcastro> UDS in barcelona was what? UDS-K?
[15:28] <czajkowski> aye
[15:28] <czajkowski> karmic my first one
[15:29] <czajkowski> http://pix.ie/czajkowski/album/344636
[15:29] <nigelb> czajkowski: Which was the most fun UDS to date? :)
[15:31] <nigelb> jcastro: I have an interesting question about to hit askubuntu.com :D
[15:32] <dpm> ah, nice memories in BCN. It was my first UDS too and I remember I was freaking nervous trying to lead the translations sessions :)
[15:33] <czajkowski> nigelb: hmmm Karmic then dallas tbh
[15:33] <czajkowski> nigelb: there was a lot more folks hanging out in the evening time in the lobby and randomly working on things
[15:34] <nigelb> czajkowski: Ah, that sounds like fun :)
[15:34] <czajkowski> yes it was
[15:39] <nigelb> jcastro: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14038/what-would-be-the-most-practical-way-for-a-web-developer-to-develop-on-ubuntu-but :)
[15:40] <sense> czajkowski: I think that is something that I was missing in Orlando: a central lobby-like place where everyone could sit to chat or get some work done. We did have that in Brussels, which was a great space but which had horrible wifi.
[15:40] <nigelb> sense: so where did you all like hang out?
[15:40] <nigelb> sense: Also, good time talking to you last night.  Made me sit and think on what I wanted to accomplish :)
[15:40] <sense> There wasn't really a place for that. I think some stayed on the convention centre.
[15:41] <sense> nigelb: Good! I'm glad that helped.
[15:41] <nigelb> I ended up deciding to use python.  What better way to learn it :)
[15:41] <czajkowski> sense: in orlando, there was the bar area, or down by the breakfast area where folks sat outside for smoking and having a drink
[15:42] <sense> ah there, yes
[15:42] <sense> nigelb: Python! :) I'm curious how you'll find it to work with.
[15:43] <jcastro> czajkowski: I believe that was the one where it was like Wednesday before I was like "who are you?"
[15:45] <czajkowski> heh :)
[15:46] <sense> I'm going, see you!
[15:49] <dholbach> hi jono
[15:49] <jono> hey dholbach
[15:49] <jono> dholbach, which BP was not approved btw?
[15:49] <dholbach> the one I sent in that email
[15:50] <jono> which email?
[15:50] <dholbach> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-development-outreach-resources
[15:50] <jono> can you link me to it?
[15:50] <dholbach> I put a link in that email too :-P
[15:50] <dholbach> It says "Proposed for natty "
[15:50] <jono> ahhh ok
[15:51] <jono> fixed
[15:51] <jono> thanks
[15:51] <jcastro> jono: ... and I'm blocking on unity.u.c access pls.
[15:51] <jcastro> jono: good morning friday! :)
[15:51]  * jcastro finds other stuff to slam jono with
[15:51] <dholbach> jono, I'll update the burndown line monday morning then
[15:51] <jono> jcastro, I know, it is not working for me either, I am trying to get it fixed with IS
[15:51] <jono> thanks dholbach
[15:54] <jono> jcastro, also how is this blocking you?
[15:55] <jcastro> You wanted me to get a bunch of things out of the way with unity.u.c before they finished fixing unity for the bugworking-tasks
[15:55] <jcastro> things like this: [jorge] Start work porting the presentation into a places API and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Places into unity.ubuntu.com : TODO
[15:55] <jcastro> etc
[15:55] <jcastro> I've got his presentation and the API docs, etc.
[15:56] <jcastro> jono: sorry, I don't mean like totally blocked as in I have nothing to do
[15:56] <jono> ok
[15:56] <jcastro> but more of a "man it would be a perfect time to bust out unity.u.c tasks before I get slammed with the bug thing and the places thing"
[15:56] <jono> jcastro, talk to IS, I think its best if you talk to them directly
[15:56] <jcastro> Noooooooooooooo </vader>
[15:56] <jcastro> right, on it.
[16:01] <Technoviking> morning all
[16:02] <jcastro> jono: also, do an update. :
[16:02] <jono> lol re. vader
[16:02] <jono> update?
[16:02] <jono> :-)
[16:03] <jcastro> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/3.1.4-0ubuntu4
[16:03] <jcastro> that's the  one we've been waiting for!
[16:04] <jono> jcastro, nice!
[16:05] <jono> dpm, great work on the twitter feed?
[16:05] <jono> oops, no question mark needed
[16:05] <jono> just great work :-)
[16:05] <jono> 54 followers! that's awesome :-)
[16:05] <dpm> jono, heh, thanks :-)
[16:06] <jono> jcastro, did you find out which twitter accounts we have?
[16:06] <dpm> the FB group seems to have more success, nearly 600 "likes" :)
[16:06] <jono> dpm, sweet!
[16:06] <jcastro> jono: no response yet, but @ubuntudev is now daniel's
[16:07] <jono> dholbach, ok, cool, I would like to see you actively tweeting to ubuntudev on Twitter
[16:07] <jono> dholbach, do you also have the identi.ca account set up too?
[16:07] <jono> I would like to see you tweet to both from gwibber
[16:08] <dholbach> understood
[16:09] <jono> dholbach, can you register the identi.ca one now, it doesn't exist
[16:09] <dholbach> I'm on it
[16:09] <jono> and then tweet something to both dholbach and I will mention both accounts and the FB page on the Ubuntu Facebook page
[16:09] <jono> get it filled up :-)
[16:11] <jono>  gonna do a FF so I have @ubuntul10n @ubuntudev @ubuntucloud #ubuntu #locoteams - what other official Ubuntu twitter accounts?
[16:11] <jcastro> do the platform status one
[16:11] <jcastro> that is handy
[16:11] <jcastro> let me find it
[16:11] <jono> thanks for doing this dholbach
[16:12] <dholbach> jono, done
[16:12] <jono> dholbach, these are fantastic channels for reaching out to folks
[16:13] <jcastro> @ubuntustatus is robbie
[16:13] <jono> jcastro, cool
[16:14] <jono> dholbach, so I recommend you post the same article links to all through
[16:14] <jcastro> lol. The most boring ubuntu twitter account: http://twitter.com/#!/ubuntusecurity
[16:14] <jono> al, three
[16:14] <dholbach> jono, hm?
[16:15] <jono> dholbach, when you post links to cool things going on, articles etc, post them to the ubuntudev accounts on twitter and identi.ca and also the Facebook page
[16:15] <jono> then everyone gets it
[16:15] <dholbach> yes
[16:15] <dholbach> done
[16:15] <jono> sweet :-)
[16:15] <jcastro> you can set identi.ca to autopost to twitter iirc
[16:16] <jono> jcastro, not sure you can to pages, just to accounts
[16:16] <jcastro> oh, I see what you mean
[16:16] <jono> dholbach, ok when you have posted a few tweets to the twitter/identi.ca accounts I will Facebook it - ready when you are
[16:16] <jcastro> wait, twitter has pages?
[16:17] <jono> jcastro, no
[16:17] <jono> Facebook pages
[16:19] <jcastro> oh oh, I mean for posting to the account
[16:20] <kim0> jono: why does everyone get a FB page and I don't :)
[16:20] <jono> kim0, go and make one :-)
[16:20] <kim0> hehe okie
[16:20] <jono> kim0, yeah we need a cloud page for sure!
[16:20] <jono> kim0, call it Ubuntu Cloud
[16:20] <jono> kim0, http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php?campaign_id=372931622610&placement=pghm&extra_1=0
[16:21] <jono> make sure you make it an Official page
[16:21] <kim0> jono: thank you!
[16:21] <jono> for a Brand
[16:21] <jono> kim0, ping me when it is created and I will Facebook it
[16:22] <jono> dholbach, Facebooked - let's see how many followers we get now :-)
[16:22] <kim0> jono: Official page for "Product" ?
[16:22] <dholbach> jono, sweet
[16:22] <dholbach> jono, I'll post some more stuff on Monday
[16:22] <jono> kim0, yep
[16:22] <jono> thanks dholbach, just update it as you work and also as you see cool things that people are going
[16:22] <jono> I really want us to highlight great work via these resources
[16:23] <kim0> jono: I'll link the FB page to ubuntucloud twitter account, makes sense ?
[16:24] <jono> kim0, absolutely
[16:24] <jono> kim0, are you owning ubuntucloud on identi.ca too?
[16:24] <kim0> jono: I own it .. although I don't really post to it
[16:25] <jono> kim0, everything you post to twitter should go to identi.ca too
[16:25] <kim0> need to link it with twitter too ..
[16:25] <jono> kim0, Gwibber can do this easily
[16:25] <kim0> yep
[16:25] <jono> thanks
[16:25] <jono> awesome, look at us, bunch of social media oddballs!
[16:25] <jono> dholbach, jcastro, kim0, dpm you guys rock :-)
[16:25] <jono> note how I even included jcastro
[16:25] <jono> lol
[16:25] <kim0> HAHA
[16:26] <jcastro> I am trying to remain quiet
[16:26] <kim0> that was hilarious
[16:26] <jcastro> before you make me use identica
[16:27] <czajkowski> *grin*
[16:27] <jono> jcastro, lol
[16:27] <nigelb> jcastro: haha
[16:27] <jcastro> here's how I can help though
[16:27] <czajkowski> there is a large JD with my name on it for after work today, with a possble cheeky chinese take away
[16:27] <jono> "I think we should harness the power of 1998 and use ICQ"
[16:27] <jcastro> paultag: yo, we need reddit juice
[16:27] <nigelb> jcastro: just feed your twitter to identi.ca and keep quiet, jono won't find out :p
[16:27] <jono> czajkowski, rock on :-)
[16:27] <nigelb> jono: oooooh, ICQ haha, how about AIM? :p
[16:28] <czajkowski> jono: one of my better ideas this week I think :)
[16:28] <jono> reddit meh
[16:28] <paultag> jcastro, what needs done
[16:28] <jono> nigelb, lol
[16:28] <jono> czajkowski, :-)
[16:28] <jcastro> reddit is where the traffic is
[16:28] <paultag> jono, oh don't give me that
[16:28] <paultag> :)
[16:28] <jono> jcastro, I know, it's not that I don't like reddit
[16:28] <kim0> what's #FF
[16:28] <nigelb> Lesson 1: Never meh teh paultag :p
[16:28] <jono> it's more people who read reddit
[16:28] <jcastro> haha
[16:28] <paultag> jono, ....I read reddit
[16:28] <jono> paultag, ahem
[16:28] <jcastro> you don't have to, you can ask paultag for the juice
[16:28] <jono> except you
[16:28] <paultag> *cough*
[16:28] <jono> :-)
[16:28] <jono> lol
[16:28] <jcastro> since you need rep on reddit to post and not get lost
[16:28] <paultag> :P
[16:29] <nigelb> Acutally, I read reddit too jono ;)
[16:29] <nigelb> That's how I lose entire days of productivity.
[16:29] <jono> ok, scratch my reddit comment from the record
[16:29] <jono> :-)
[16:29] <paultag> jcastro, what's the link?
[16:30] <jcastro> well, whenever they post something awesome on their new twitter accounts
[16:30]  * nigelb plays that unknown rock band "Severed Fifth" to drown out the reddit comment
[16:30] <jcastro> paultag: so for now link to jono's twitter #FF
[16:30] <nigelb> jcastro: hrm, wonder if we can automate that step.
[16:30] <jcastro> and then say something like "new status accounts for ubuntu cloud, l10n, and developers" or something like that
[16:30] <jcastro> nigelb: no!
[16:30] <jono> nigelb, lol
[16:30] <jcastro> no spamming.
[16:31] <nigelb> jcastro: well, its not spamming, its like cross-posting
[16:31] <paultag> jcastro, link me, baby -- I can't find it
[16:31] <paultag> nigelb, I'll hit r/ubuntu if you hit r/linux
[16:31] <nigelb> paultag: twitter.com/ubuntucloud
[16:31] <paultag> ahhh
[16:31] <jcastro> http://twitter.com/#!/jonobacon/status/5657283488915456
[16:31] <nigelb> jcastro: did I get that link right?
[16:31] <jcastro> this one ^^^^^
[16:32] <jcastro> but wait
[16:32] <jcastro> in the description I'd like you to do this:
[16:32] <jcastro> wait, no, we'll do that seperately
[16:32] <jcastro> that's good for now
[16:33]  * nigelb signs up to help
[16:33] <paultag> nigelb, http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/e8pkp/ubuntu_follow_friday_weve_got_new_status_accounts/ <-- upboat, plox
[16:34] <paultag> Oh shit!
[16:34] <paultag> It's my reddit birthday :)
[16:34] <jcastro> paultag: ok, for the next one (whenever you determine a time frame): Take the top 4 posts here and call it "new getting started guides for ubuntu clouds" or something.
[16:34] <nigelb> Voted up
[16:34] <jcastro> http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/search/label/ubuntu-planet
[16:34] <jcastro> paultag: upboated
[16:34] <paultag> nigelb, jcastro, cheers
[16:34] <jcastro> teamwork, high 5
[16:34] <jcastro> ^5
[16:35] <paultag> ^5
[16:35] <nigelb> ^5
[16:35] <paultag> I'll post this next one, sec
[16:37] <jcastro> god I love the linux reddit
[16:37] <jcastro> this one about the terrorist and linux
[16:37] <paultag> hahaha
[16:37] <jcastro> http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/wanted_terrorists/daniel-andreas-san-diego/view
[16:37] <jcastro> "San Diego has ties to animal rights extremist groups. He is known to follow a vegan diet, eating no meat or food containing animal products. In the past, he has worked as a computer network specialist and with the operating system LINUX. "
[16:37] <jcastro> omg, it's dholbach!
[16:37] <dholbach> vegan diet, no
[16:38] <dholbach> not yet, but there's at least points when I'm thinking about it
[16:38] <dholbach> but that guy clearly is a terrorist
[16:39] <dholbach> eco terrorist
[16:39] <dholbach> consumer terrorist
[16:39] <dholbach> etc :)
[16:39] <nigelb> dammit
[16:40] <nigelb> vegans are dangeours! </stereotyping-for-fun>
[16:40] <duanedesign> especially to plants
[16:40] <paultag> nigelb, jcastro, http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/e8ppz/ever_want_to_get_started_with_ubuntu_in_the_cloud/
[16:42] <dholbach> nigelb, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGpJ7J8ReJ4 is when I last seriously thought about it (in German and quite ugly)
[16:42] <dholbach> but whatever
[16:42] <dholbach> time for the weekend now
[16:42] <jcastro> \o/ dholbach!
[16:42] <dholbach> so have a good one everyone
[16:42] <dholbach> and see you next week!
[16:42] <paultag> dholbach, Tschuss!
[16:42] <dholbach> Tschüss!
[16:42] <dholbach> :)
[16:44] <duanedesign> anyone have the link to kim0's blog?
[16:44] <jcastro> http://foss-boss.blogspot.com/search/label/ubuntu-planet
[16:44] <jcastro> ^^ duanedesign
[16:45] <duanedesign> cool thanks
[16:47] <czajkowski> jcastro: jono just a thought for next uds on the summit page, a link to pull in blog posts about the event kinda like a summary, but that all posts with a tag UDS-Letter appear there so all the content is in one place
[16:47] <nigelb> paultag: gah, some $foo downvoted
[16:47] <paultag> it's ok nigelb
[16:47] <jcastro> czajkowski: like this but bigger? http://summit.ubuntu.com/
[16:47] <nigelb> ok, I admit my love for askubuntu.com
[16:48] <nigelb> Asked a question and I got a good solution in about 1 hour
[16:48] <jcastro> or maybe like ... http://summit.ubuntu.com/media/lifestream.html
[16:48] <jcastro> except working
[16:48] <nigelb> Just waiting to see if there better ones coming in :)
[16:48] <paultag> duanedesign, dude :)
[16:48] <paultag> duanedesign, I posted those links in the post
[16:48] <paultag> duanedesign, and it's 101 part 2, not 102 :)
[16:48] <czajkowski> jcastro: well yeah like that but without it being being tweets/dents like perhaps their blot posts or part of a blog post
[16:48] <nigelb> czajkowski: off the planet?
[16:48] <paultag> duanedesign, but you rock for posting
[16:48] <czajkowski> nigelb: not everyone is on the planet
[16:49] <nigelb> czajkowski: yes, but there is no central place for all blogs
[16:49] <nigelb> (I'm brain storming, so I can build it)
[16:49] <czajkowski> this would be for non Ubuntu folks and upstream who tag their post UDS-N they'd appear there on the summit page
[16:49] <jcastro> nigelb: no new building!
[16:49] <jcastro> nigelb: patches bro, patches
[16:49] <nigelb> jcastro: I know, but I'm a web developer!
[16:49] <czajkowski> problemwith the tag UDS is it isn't unique to us so it would have to be UDSLETER for it to work I think
[16:50] <nigelb> czajkowski: for me the issue is, if you tag something on your blog, on your domain, how would I track it.  Should we let folks submit links to the site that we're thinkng of?
[16:50] <czajkowski> jcastro: was just reviewing some conference sites and got the idea, just mindles thinking here
[16:50] <nigelb> like, here's a link to a post I've written kind of deal?
[16:51] <czajkowski> this is how meego does it http://wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Conference_2010#Conference_Wrap-up
[16:51] <czajkowski> not sayint it's the way to go, but as an example
[16:51]  * nigelb looks excitedly!
[17:08] <nigelb> jcastro: I'm just going to start with latest patches, that makes more sense.
[17:11] <jcastro> nigelb: if you can check the guy who posted on my blog that would be <3
[17:13] <nigelb> jcastro: right, good idea, can you link me again? :)
[17:14] <jcastro> http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/1582239180/make-it-really-easy-to-fix-bugs-on-ubuntu
[17:14] <nigelb> jcastro: I wish there were people I could poke about say sound, video, or other hardware stuff.
[17:26] <nigelb> jcastro: sigh, its complicated.  I guess I could poke zul
[17:27] <nigelb> jcastro: poked zul, I'll see where that goes
[17:29] <nigelb> jcastro: aha, packaging the patch into a debdiff now :)
[17:32] <duanedesign> paultag: lol
[17:32] <duanedesign> paultag: ok ill come up with osme other links :P do not know how I missed that
[17:32] <paultag> duanedesign, :P
[17:36] <nigelb> jcastro: dude, zul gave me +1 to put into a package \o/
[17:36] <nigelb> doing that now :D
[17:37] <jcastro> \o/
[17:37] <jcastro> one down!
[17:37] <nigelb> no! 2 down!
[17:37] <jcastro> ok then!
[17:37] <jcastro> I suppose I should go eat now
[17:37] <nigelb> another 1598 to go ;)
[17:43] <Technoviking> jcastro: I was thinking about Compiz Unity and nvidia last night. I know we are not allowed to ship the 3D nvidia driver on the CD, but could Ubiquity detect, ask, and download the nvidia 3d driver?
[17:44] <jcastro> I think that would be awesome
[17:44] <Technoviking> jcastro: has a wishlist bug every been filled?
[17:45] <jcastro> not sure, I would guess so, it seems obvious
[17:45] <jcastro> but you never know
[17:45] <Technoviking> I will fill one, never hurts
[18:03] <dpm> jcastro, I'm just writing a blog post about the new twitter/identi.ca/FB accounts we've been creating and resuscitating this week. anything you'd like me to mention on the upstream front? kim0, if you've created the cloud FB page I can add a link to it too
[18:05] <jcastro> dpm: not specifically
[18:05] <jcastro> dpm: that information is probably best mentioned with appdeveloper specific stuff
[18:05] <jcastro> but haven't really figured that out
[18:06] <dpm> ok, no worries
[18:07] <nigelb> ugh, that google plugin that asks you to do math if its late, I hate that!
[18:07] <nigelb> I always get addition and subtraction wrong.
[18:16] <JFo> ?
[18:17] <JFo> math if it is late
[18:17] <JFo> I am not familiar with that one
[18:17] <nigelb> JFo: Yah, so that you don't send a mail that you regret
[18:17] <JFo> heh
[18:17] <nigelb> Now I regret using it
[18:17] <JFo> lol
[18:17] <nigelb> JFo: Its a Google labs plugin
[18:17] <JFo> I see
[18:18] <nigelb> Want ot give it a spin I suppose? ;)
[18:18] <JFo> nah
[18:18] <JFo> I do need food though
[18:18] <JFo> :)
[18:18] <JFo> brb
[18:20] <nigelb> :)
[18:42] <kim0> dpm: jcastro Yeah I did http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-Cloud/
[18:43] <kim0> dpm: jcastro Ideally .. I want to post to twitter .. and have that reflect in ident.ca and the FB page. Any of you masters of this kinda thing :)
[18:44] <dpm> kim0, thanks, I'll link to it. I think you can add a twitter feed to the "Notes" tab, but you cannot have a feed on a page, unless it's your personal feed
[18:44] <dpm> although I've tried to add the ubuntul10n rss feed to the Notes tab and FB gave me an error
[18:45] <kim0> bah .. I've been googling and finding weirdo apps to do that
[18:45] <kim0> nothing quite right yet
[18:57] <kim0> dpm: The link I gave is incorrect it seems, please use: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-Cloud/108262895909131
[19:08] <Technoviking> jono: btw Joeb454 is our new forums Council member,
[19:08] <Joeb454> o/
[19:08] <jono> Technoviking, cool :-)
[19:09] <jono> hi Joeb454!
[19:10] <Joeb454> hi jono :D
[19:13] <Technoviking> the best thing about Joeb454 is that he lives in the UK, so he can smack popey as needed:)
[19:13] <jcastro> congrats Joeb454!
[19:13] <Joeb454> Technoviking: only if you give me a couple of hours notice to drive down there ;)
[19:13] <Joeb454> thanks jcastro
[19:14] <Technoviking> Joeb454: heh
[19:14] <jono> lol
[19:25] <JFo> Joeb454, how likely is it that I could get you to move down there :-)
[19:25] <akgraner> Joeb454, congrats!
[19:25] <JFo> sorry, missed my ? key
[19:25] <Joeb454> thanks akgraner
[19:25] <JFo> heya akgraner:)
[19:26] <JFo> all well? (not sick)
[19:26] <Joeb454> JFo: well I'll be looking to move sometime after next Sept, so more than possible :P
[19:26] <Technoviking> jcastro: today unity is much better in natty
[19:26] <JFo> excellent! I want to maximize the smacking possibilities :-D
[19:26] <jcastro> yeah I just tried it Technoviking
[19:26] <jcastro> Technoviking: other than nautilus starting up real slow
[19:27] <Joeb454> lol JFo :P
[19:28] <JFo> :)
[19:45] <paultag> Pici, are you around, my friend?
[19:53] <AlanBell> o/ Joeb454
[19:55] <Joeb454> o/ AlanBell
[20:01]  * popey tickles Joeb454 
[20:01]  * Joeb454 ... giggles?
[20:01] <popey> appropriate
[20:01] <Joeb454> oh good
[20:08] <Pici> paultag: did jussi sort you?
[20:08] <paultag> Pici, yup, no worries, thanks, though!
[20:15] <jono> jcastro, did you get the new unity working?
[20:16] <jcastro> on my laptop, I don't want to lose my session on my desktop
[20:17] <jono> jcastro, is it working much better?
[20:18] <jcastro> the indicators are in the right spot now
[20:18] <jcastro> and there are placeholders for quicklists
[20:18] <jcastro> and the switcher is on the bottom now
[20:18] <jcastro> the bottom right corner
[20:18] <jcastro> jono: it seems less buggy, feature wise not much new
[20:18] <jono> cool
[20:19] <dpm> ok everyone enough for today, time for dinner and weekend. Have a good one, cheers!
[20:19] <jcastro> I feel like I can switch fulltime when I can add things to the launcher
[20:19] <jcastro> woo dpm!
[20:19] <dpm> :-)
[20:19] <dpm> See you all on Monday!
[20:20] <jcastro> jono: are you on natty or maverick?
[20:20] <jono> jcastro, Maverick until unity lands and is reasonably stable in natty
[20:21] <jcastro> oh good, I have some audio glitches too
[20:21] <jcastro> like sound cutting out during songs, etc.
[20:21] <jcastro> so I don't recommend it if it's your only PC
[20:22] <jono> np
[20:22] <jono> cheers
[20:22] <jcastro> jono: conor landed some refinements to the menu, let me get you a screenie
[20:27] <jcastro> jono: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5720/natty_sound.png
[20:27] <jcastro> new buttons
[20:27] <jcastro> also note the old music note is now the app logo
[20:54] <jono> jcastro, nice!
[20:54] <jono> is Banshee working with it now then?
[20:54] <jcastro> it's always worked with it
[20:54] <jcastro> it's not default yet if that's what you mean
[20:54] <jcastro> mondayish I hope
[20:56] <jono> right
[20:56] <jono> cool
[20:56] <jono> jcastro, do we know when Unity will be switched on by default in natty? I assume early next week
[20:56] <jcastro> yeah he wanted another week to bang on it first
[20:56] <jcastro> next thursday
[21:03] <Joeb454> jcastro: have you had any issues with banshee randomly closing on maverick?
[21:03] <jcastro> closing or crashing?
[21:03] <jono> jcastro, cool
[21:04] <jono> jcastro, are there any work items you can tick off today
[21:04] <jono> I want to get http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-community.html in shape
[21:04] <jono> since dholbach forgot a blueprint, it has erased our progress :-)
[21:04] <jcastro> I was just about to review them
[21:04] <jcastro> WHOA
[21:04] <jcastro> oh man
[21:04] <jcastro> I was like "but I thought I was good"
[21:06] <jono> jcastro, "talk to libre office people about their plans
[21:06] <jono> "
[21:06] <jono> is that really something for you?
[21:06] <jono> I thought that would be a jasonwarner thing
[21:06] <jono> jcastro, "Provide a graph for tracking metrics for this initative" for Unity
[21:07] <jono> that is done right?
[21:07] <jono> it is in qa.ubuntu.com
[21:07] <jcastro> yes, wait, let me make sure daniel's is still there
[21:07] <jono> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-community-n-unity-bugfixing-participation
[21:07] <jcastro> yep, I can close that one
[21:08] <jcastro> the libreoffice thing is up to you
[21:08] <jcastro> it doesn't bother me either way
[21:09] <jono> jcastro, let me check
[21:10] <jono> jcastro, also "Plan regular "bug day" activities with Pedro to highlight these bugs"
[21:10] <jono> would be good to get a schedule of events ready
[21:10] <jono> shouldn't take much work
[21:11] <jono> "Form plan for web app integration (aka youtube) by Alpha 1" re. Places, what do you mean by this plan?
[21:11] <jcastro> you know how you can have 2 kinds of places
[21:11] <jcastro> one for apps
[21:11] <jcastro> and one for web sites/apps
[21:12] <jono> yup
[21:12] <jono> but what "plan" are you referring to
[21:12] <jono> plan of advocacy, development?
[21:13] <Joeb454> jcastro: sorry - got distracted by Children In Need :P - it appears to crash, but I've not seen any errors from it
[21:13] <jcastro> jono: both I suppose, I don't really have a plan yet, other than we need it.
[21:14] <jono> jcastro, well if it is a development plan, that is really a DX thing, if it is an advocacy plan, that is you
[21:14] <jono> what is the desired outcome for that work item?
[21:15] <jcastro> hmm, it seems to overlap with [jorge] Form a list on the wiki of cool websites we can integrate with (like we did for youtube): TODO
[21:15] <jcastro> when I have my next call with neil I'll discuss it with him
[21:15] <jcastro> I remember talking about it in the session
[21:16] <jcastro> (I DONEd another one from default apps)
[21:16] <jcastro> so I got 2
[21:16] <jono> jcastro, I am still not clear on what the plan is to do though
[21:17] <jcastro> places can talk to websites
[21:17] <jono> right
[21:17] <jcastro> when they work we need people to make places that talk to websites
[21:17] <jono> right
[21:17] <jcastro> for that we need a plan
[21:17] <jcastro> that WI is to form that plan
[21:18] <jcastro> a subitem of that would be to make a list of websites of sites that would be handy to have places for (the other WI)
[21:18] <jono> I understand that, but is this a development plan to do ensure the technical work is completed to make this outcome happen, or an advocacy plan to get people excited about it?
[21:18] <jcastro> the advocacy plan
[21:18] <jono> ok
[21:19] <jono> can you make that clearer in the WI?
[21:19] <jcastro> "hey jono you should make a Severed Fifth Place" kind of thing
[21:19] <jono> right
[21:19] <jcastro> ok fixing
[21:19] <jono> so to make that happen you need a set of docs, API docs, tutorial and outreach
[21:19] <jono> jcastro, talked to Jason, you can mark the libreoffice one done - they have the knowledge they need, Allison talked to mmeeks
[21:20] <jcastro> ok
[21:20] <jono> thanks
[21:20] <jono> jcastro, "mail to tb-planning about indicator integration" what is tb-planning?
[21:20] <jcastro> that's a tbird list, I don't even know how that got on there, all the tb stuff was deferred
[21:21] <jono> ok, mark it as postponed
[21:21] <jono> thanks
[21:22] <jono> "setup a front desk for Debian developers (sync requests, questions) (note:adding this info to existing places and pages)"
[21:22] <jono> jcastro, I thought we already at the derivs front desk?
[21:23] <jcastro> one sec
[21:23] <jcastro> please slow down a minute, I can barely keep up
[21:25] <jono> lol
[21:25] <jono> :-)
[21:26] <jcastro> ok that tbird one I can do, it's basically just a roll up of the discussions we had at UDS, which I have the notes for.
[21:26] <jcastro> that front desk one is pending on what archive admins want to do with sync requests.
[21:26] <jono> jcastro, I thought it was deferred?
[21:26] <jono> ok np
[21:27] <jcastro> jono: yes but we agreed to send the results of the UDS session to the rest of the tbird community, it's one email, easy
[21:27] <jono> sounds reasonable
[21:27] <jono> thanks, pal
[21:27] <jcastro> the overall spec is deferred though, which is why it's missing from my bookmarks
[21:27] <jono> another simple one to tick off
[21:27] <jono> np
[21:30] <jono> jcastro, you caught up now?
[21:30] <jcastro> yeah
[21:31] <jcastro> I was going to get started on the tbird thing
[21:31] <jono> cool
[21:31] <jono> just before you do
[21:31] <jono> I want to add something to your 11.04 plan as you have the most capacity in the team
[21:32] <jono> I want to focus you back on the server community to help them build some growth there
[21:32] <jono> I am going to gather some reqs and flesh out a plan
[21:32] <jcastro> ok
[21:32] <jono> it won't be a huge chunk of work, but your sysadmin experience and knowledge of the community will help
[21:32] <jcastro> nod
[21:34] <jono> cool
[21:46] <jcastro> Joeb454: run it from the command line and see what happens next time it disappears
[21:47] <Joeb454> jcastro: makes sense, will see how it goes :)
[21:47] <jono> duanedesign, ping?
[21:47] <jcastro> Joeb454: there's a bug day next friday, for your convenience. :)
[21:48] <Joeb454> just for me? aww jcastro you shouldn't have :P
[21:48] <jcastro> I make things happen
[21:48] <jcastro> >_>
[21:48] <jcastro> <_<
[21:48] <Joeb454> lol
[21:49]  * Joeb454 goes in search of food
[22:06]  * Technoviking repeatly beats head againist wall.
[22:07] <jono> hey Pendulum
[22:07] <jono> sorry I missed you re. our next call
[22:07] <jono> let me check my cal
[22:08] <jono> Pendulum, how about Monday at 2pm Pacific?
[22:08] <Pendulum> jono: sounds good to me
[22:08] <jono> cool :-)
[22:14] <Technoviking> jcastro: ping
[23:37]  * popey pokes jcastro in the face with askubuntu.com
[23:37] <popey> I'm becoming additicted you bugger!