[09:07] <jtoomey> hello all
[09:59] <ShaneM> Hi jtoomey
[09:59] <tdr112> morning
[09:59] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:59] <czajkowski> jyou came back
[09:59] <czajkowski> :)
[10:04] <ShaneM> Am I the only person Empathy never works for? :(
[10:08] <czajkowski> really
[10:08] <czajkowski> what happens
[10:16] <ShaneM> It always crashes
[10:16] <ShaneM> And msn messages never seen.
[10:16] <ShaneM> All works on Pidgin fine.
[10:17] <ShaneM> Even with a default install nothing work on Empathy.
[10:17] <ShaneM> *never send.
[10:20] <czajkowski> kinda odd
[10:20] <czajkowski> ShaneM: what version ubuntu are you running
[10:21] <ShaneM> 10.10
[10:21] <ShaneM> But this has happened to me with every version.
[10:22] <czajkowski> hmmm
[10:23] <czajkowski> is it do to do with your connection I wonder
[10:23] <ShaneM> Unlikely since everything works perfectly in pidgin.
[10:23] <ShaneM> And even if the connect was bad the application shouldn't randomly crash.
[10:24] <ShaneM> I would assume it's some sort of msn issue with Empathy.
[10:25] <ShaneM> Since the messages not sending only happens on the msn protocol.
[10:25] <ebel> there's something up with msn lately
[10:25] <ebel> they made a new ssl certificate but didn't get it signed or something
[10:26] <ShaneM> ebel: Yeah that happened yesterday
[10:26]  * ebel got that error today...
[10:26] <ShaneM> ebel: I think that's only effecting Pidgin.
[10:26] <ShaneM> This issue I have with Empathy is basically constant
[10:27] <ShaneM> It's ok though, I'm not expecting some magical fix. I just wanted to know if people were having the same issues as me :)
[10:34] <czajkowski> ShaneM: I used to have an issue with pidgin which is why I moved to empathy
[10:36] <ShaneM> czajkowski: Oh mystery bugs :)
[10:36] <czajkowski> ShaneM: I'd still log the bug though
[10:37] <ShaneM> I don't really know what to log
[10:37] <ShaneM> "Random crash"
[10:37] <ShaneM> I don't know what sets it off.
[10:37] <ShaneM> It's actually kind of completely random
[10:37] <ShaneM> I suppose I could log the msn issues though.
[10:39] <czajkowski> ShaneM: well in the bug report write out what you do
[10:39] <czajkowski> what sets it off
[10:39] <czajkowski> and also say it's intermittent
[10:50] <ShaneM> czajkowski: I'll do that this evening then, brb.
[10:51] <czajkowski> excellent
[13:34] <tdr112> czajkowski: a post about that event http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~tdr/blog/2010/11/19/the-business-value-of-open-source-software/
[14:42] <airurando> afternoon
[14:42] <infoturtle`> ^^, how are we??
[14:42] <airurando> does anyone have a link to some photos of the May Geeknic?
[14:43] <airurando> hi infoturtle`
[14:43] <airurando> not too bad
[14:43] <airurando> any you?
[14:43] <airurando> and you?
[14:44] <airurando> I've tidied up the upcoming events wiki page and the 2010 events archive page.
[14:44] <infoturtle`> fine, up and working to get work for the site out of the way, Anamanaguchi are playing a gig in limerick for friends of mine company opening party and trying to free time up for that
[14:44] <infoturtle`> oh cool I'll go check that now and update the masses
[14:45] <airurando> the only thing missing are photos for the may geeknic / lucid release party
[14:45] <infoturtle`> seen some on czajkowski's blog before i belive
[14:46] <airurando> yeah czajkowski was always reliable but she wasn't at that event
[14:46] <airurando> oggcamp happened the same weekend.
[14:46] <infoturtle`> oh, fiddle sticks
[14:46] <czajkowski> airurando: ahh ebel has them on his flicker stream
[14:47] <airurando> I wasn't at it either
[14:47] <airurando> hi czajkowski
[14:47] <airurando> I'll look into that
[14:47] <czajkowski> airurando: howdy
[14:48] <czajkowski> :)
[14:48] <airurando> how was week two?
[14:48] <ebel> airurando: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rorymccann/tags/lucidlynx/
[14:48] <airurando> thanks ebel
[14:48] <ebel> twasn't a warm day, note the coats :)
[14:49] <airurando> yeah I remember seeing them just didn't remember where
[14:49] <airurando> I'll put a link to them on the 2010 archive wiki page.
[16:07] <infoturtle`> anyone use ggz?  having troubles getting it to run
[16:07] <czajkowski> infoturtle`: what is it
[16:08] <infoturtle`> its a lobby for find server for games like nibbles/chess, games you can get with ubuntu
[16:47] <infoturtle`> hey airurando any word from huge? I'm hoping to make out 2 or 3 themes for users to pick from if thats cool and if he's making a logo I'd like to add it to the header of all of them
[16:47] <infoturtle`> for ubuntu-ie.org
[16:47] <infoturtle`> should have said that part
[17:47] <airurando> infoturtle` no hugh hasn't contacted me.  Look forward to seeing the designs.
[17:48] <airurando> Remember though, based on my understanding, we can't mess with the actual logo or font
[17:50] <infoturtle`> we can, unless you mean were not allowed, the the site deff allows you to edit themes, I wont touch a thing till it's approved, just thinking themes might make user experience a little more friendly
[17:55] <airurando> infoturtle` I'm not saying anything is not allowed.
[17:55] <airurando> truly I don't know.
[17:55] <airurando> I just don't want a lot of effort to go into something for it then to be rejected.
[17:57] <infoturtle`> ok cool, I'll just leave it as it is for now
[18:11] <airurando> infoturtle` Ah no, give it a go just don't be too radical! and don't spend too much time on it.
[18:17] <airurando> infoturtle` you are webmaster not me
[18:19] <airurando> I don't have any say, above offering my opinion, in what happens to the website.
[18:21] <infoturtle`> I happy to makes changes need and stuff but I'm not familiar with the rules and what can be done, I'm just afriad of getting too eager and doing something that pisses someone off, I'll try to add colour and give a spruce of life but as you say nothing too radical, and I am happy to be getting help from you, I know your not telling me wheat to do and the info is helping
[18:29] <airurando> infoturtle` I'm way too conservative.  as ebel says you can do as much or as little as you like.
[18:29] <airurando> He who does stuff gets to say whats done.
[18:31] <airurando> you won't annoy folks with your initial plan of designing a couple and then letting people pick.
[18:32] <infoturtle`> cool, thanks for the motivation/advice, I'll try something out and we'll see how it goes
[18:54] <airurando> infoturtle` good stuff.
[19:03] <jtoomey> hello all
[19:03] <airurando> Hi jtoomey
[19:03] <jtoomey> hey - hows it going?
[19:04] <airurando> not too bad and yourself?
[19:04] <jtoomey> grand. tired. long week.
[19:05] <jtoomey> just trying this LostIRC client out - not sure how it works....
[19:32] <czajkowski> jtoomey: welcome back
[19:44] <tdr112> evening
[19:54] <jtoomey> czajkowski, thanks!
[19:56] <jtoomey> czajkowski, i started trying to get stuck into that code after your help yesterday. its very complicated - too much for my limited grasp of GTK+. i think i might mail the developer and see if he would give me 5 mins of his time...
[20:01] <czajkowski> jtoomey: nods
[20:01] <czajkowski> or there are folks usually idling in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat and they'll talk folks thorugh it
[20:14] <jtoomey> czajkowski, i suppose, at this point my questions are specific to the application. how it fits together and what not. you know?
[20:15] <czajkowski> j0ds
[20:15] <czajkowski> nods
[20:15] <jtoomey> j0ds eh? i hadnt thought of that... :P
[20:20] <davisc> Hah! Wales are not happy bunnies!
[20:20] <infoturtle`> ????
[20:20] <davisc> Losing 13-6 to Fiji at half time
[20:21] <czajkowski> wow
[20:31] <lau1> read that they are trying to beat fidji at their own game
[20:31] <lau1> the world cup fiasco was not enough
[20:33] <lau1> ;)
[21:03] <infoturtle`> time for this turtle to go see anamanaguchi!! woo, see ye guys 2mara!!
[21:04] <lau1> see yo
[21:04] <lau1> u
[21:05] <infoturtle`> ^^,