| cjohnston | Daniels @require_login | 00:03 |
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| mhall119 | rebase | 00:08 |
| cjohnston | already done | 00:08 |
| mhall119 | sorry, I got distracted, someone way yacking at me in PM | 00:08 |
| cjohnston | np.. i know what to do now.. youve tought me well | 00:09 |
| cjohnston | mhall119: would team.expires_date = datetime.strptime(approval.date_expires[:19], "%Y-%m-%dT%H:%M:%S") have anything to do with bug 494950 | 01:00 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 494950 in loco-directory "Team Approved/Expire dates don't require time. (affects: 1) (heat: 3)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/494950 | 01:00 |
| mhall119 | could be | 01:13 |
| cjohnston | mhall119: does the strptime take out the HMS? | 01:45 |
| cjohnston | or is it supposed to | 01:45 |
| mhall119 | I'm not sure | 02:05 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: still awake? | 04:28 |
| mhall119 | cjohnston: progress so far: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/team-events-localtime | 04:29 |
| mhall119 | it'll get the timezone from the venue if there is one, otherwise it defaults to UTC | 04:31 |
| mhall119 | on display it'll include the timezone and offset | 04:32 |
| mhall119 | on editing it'll assume you're entering time local to the venue, and convert it to UTC when it saves it do the database | 04:32 |
| mhall119 | and with that, I'm off to bed, talk to you tomorrow | 04:34 |
| YoBoY | bonjour | 06:39 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:42 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 09:06 |
| dholbach | hey czajkowski | 09:11 |
| czajkowski | dholbach: ello happy friday to you | 09:14 |
| dholbach | and the same to you | 09:15 |
| mhall119 | morning | 11:55 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/team-events-localtime <- progress | 11:55 |
| dholbach | mhall119, NICE | 11:57 |
| dholbach | looks like it's been quite a bit of work already :) | 11:57 |
| mhall119 | I need to track down all of the places that should display in localtime | 11:59 |
| mhall119 | I went through several iterations last night trying to find a solution that would work | 11:59 |
| dholbach | you'll make a lot of people very happy | 12:00 |
| mhall119 | do you think we should give teams a default_timezone field? | 12:00 |
| czajkowski | hmmm | 12:01 |
| czajkowski | will it allow for DST ? | 12:01 |
| mhall119 | I'm thinking that would be useful to most teams, so they don't have to specify for each venue | 12:01 |
| dholbach | but they'll have to change it between summer and winter? | 12:01 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: yes, because I'm keeping timezone, not offset from UTC | 12:01 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: nope | 12:01 |
| mhall119 | right now, a venue is said to be in "US/Eastern" | 12:01 |
| dholbach | but one British venue will be in BST in summer and in GMT in winter | 12:01 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: nope | 12:02 |
| mhall119 | they would be in the "Europe/London" timezone | 12:02 |
| mhall119 | when I convert datetimes from UTC to localtime, that's when it calculates whether it's BST or GMT | 12:03 |
| dholbach | we don't associate vnues with teams.... hm | 12:04 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: no,true | 12:04 |
| mhall119 | we already have tz field for userprofile, I guess I can default it to the tz of the user | 12:04 |
| mhall119 | people will rarely be creating venues outside of their own timezone | 12:05 |
| dholbach | hum | 12:05 |
| dholbach | my concern is people travelling and changing timezones | 12:05 |
| nigelb | and people using different timezones to work around bugs in the wiki :/ | 12:06 |
| nigelb | moinmoin to be exact. | 12:06 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: how often will someone be creating venues when they travel? | 12:06 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: do you use a different timezone in launchpad for that? | 12:06 |
| nigelb | mhall119: yep, or else I can't login to the wiki. | 12:07 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: remember I'm just talking about defaults, they'll still be able to change it | 12:07 |
| dholbach | mhall119, do you want to make it a (overridable) preselection and get it from the browser? | 12:07 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: you mean for the venue? | 12:07 |
| mhall119 | or for userprofile? | 12:07 |
| dholbach | ok, you answered question 1 | 12:08 |
| dholbach | do you want to get the users timezone from the browser? | 12:08 |
| mhall119 | right now the venue.tz field defaults to "Africa/Abidjan" in the form when the field is not set | 12:08 |
| mhall119 | can we get it from the browser? | 12:09 |
| mhall119 | it there a javascript trick or something for that? | 12:09 |
| dholbach | I thought there was talk about it | 12:09 |
| dholbach | do you think it might make sense to bring the discussion on a wiki page? | 12:10 |
| dholbach | to me it seems like there's a lot of different problems/ideas/places involved | 12:10 |
| dholbach | so sometimes I'm not sure if we're talking about saving time in the current timezone of whoever creates the venue/event or displaying it for a user who might be in some other timezone somewhere | 12:11 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: we can | 12:11 |
| dholbach | only if you think it makes sense | 12:11 |
| dholbach | you're putting all the work into it already | 12:11 |
| mhall119 | I'd rather get these changes is now though, rather than wait on discussions about setting defaults | 12:11 |
| dholbach | sure | 12:12 |
| mhall119 | I do have a question about migrating existing team event times | 12:30 |
| mhall119 | right now they're stored in the DB at UTC, but we tell people to treat them a localtime | 12:31 |
| mhall119 | initially, with my branch, venues say they are on UTC until a timezone is set, so it won't immediately break things | 12:32 |
| dholbach | mhall119, via management command we could convert them to something that makes sense as soon as a venue tz is set? | 12:32 |
| mhall119 | but as teams set timezones for venues, it'll change the displayed time of any event using that venue | 12:32 |
| mhall119 | hmm, I can add a hook to the venue's save method, so change times of any associated event when the venue's timezone is set for the first time | 12:33 |
| dholbach | it's tricky | 12:34 |
| dholbach | tricky tricky tricky | 12:34 |
| mhall119 | how so? | 12:34 |
| dholbach | what do we do if somebody picks a wrong tz and wants to change afterwards? | 12:35 |
| mhall119 | yeah, then they'll be stuck | 12:35 |
| czajkowski | aye | 12:35 |
| czajkowski | and trust me TZ is such a touchy subject with folks | 12:35 |
| mhall119 | we can do it every time venue.tz is changed | 12:36 |
| dholbach | but how do we know what the value in front of us is? :) | 12:36 |
| dholbach | (the timestamp) | 12:36 |
| mhall119 | it'll happen when the venue is saved | 12:36 |
| mhall119 | we'll do a db lookup for any event using that venue | 12:36 |
| mhall119 | check what the offsets from UTC were from both old and new timezone on the date of the event | 12:37 |
| mhall119 | and adjust the time by the difference in offset | 12:37 |
| dholbach | so we have to have a "if venue.tz was empty before" check in there, right? | 12:38 |
| mhall119 | the intent would be to keep the local time the same, even when venue's timezone is changed | 12:38 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: now I'm thinking we just do it every time a venue.tz changes | 12:38 |
| dholbach | right | 12:38 |
| mhall119 | to cover the "oops, I set it to the wrong timezone" scenario | 12:38 |
| dholbach | but if it was empty before, we convert from "utc, but actually something else" to "utc + offset", no? | 12:39 |
| mhall119 | right | 12:39 |
| dholbach | and if the tz is changed afterwards it's just the offset that's changed | 12:39 |
| mhall119 | it'll change by the difference in offsets | 12:40 |
| dholbach | difference between what? | 12:40 |
| mhall119 | so if you change a venue's timezone from Europe/London at UTC+0 to US/Eastern at UTC-400, then we change the event's time by -400 | 12:41 |
| mhall119 | if you change from US/Eastern at UTC-400 to US/Pacific at UTC-700, we change the event's time by -300 | 12:42 |
| mhall119 | so that the local time display is always the same | 12:42 |
| dholbach | ok | 12:43 |
| mhall119 | does that make sense? | 12:43 |
| dholbach | I guess it does | 12:43 |
| mhall119 | heh, I guess I'll try implementing it and see if it still makes sense in code | 12:44 |
| dholbach | it's just that datetime.datetime has a tzinfo field | 12:44 |
| dholbach | so I thought we'd just change the value there | 12:44 |
| mhall119 | it's actually a class, and not implemented | 12:44 |
| dholbach | but I'm not sure any more | 12:44 |
| mhall119 | ok, that works | 13:04 |
| mhall119 | so now people can set venue timezones at their leisure, and they won't have to worry about changing event times | 13:05 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: cjohnston: When you can: https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/loco-directory/team-events-localtime/+merge/41306 | 13:36 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: can you check if python-tz is installed on the production server? | 13:38 |
| dholbach | mhall119, it is | 13:44 |
| dholbach | mhall119, but we probably should document it in INSTALL | 13:46 |
| dholbach | and spit out an error message maybe? | 13:46 |
| mhall119 | working on it | 13:50 |
| mhall119 | I don't think we need an error message, we don't do that for any of the other package dependencies | 13:54 |
| mhall119 | but I added it to the INSTALL | 13:54 |
| dscassel_ | Thanks, mhall119. :D | 14:29 |
| mhall119 | dscassel_: for what? | 15:16 |
| nigelb | mhall119: Hi, sorry. I got up waaay later I should have yesterday :) | 15:31 |
| nigelb | mhall119: Anyway, I wanted to try and hack something toegether for team reports over the weekend with the foundations project | 15:34 |
| nigelb | Just wanted to touch base with you re:that | 15:34 |
| nigelb | Also, I was woundering if we could write a planet like app from scratch, I mean so we can re-theme it and it would be easier to set up feeds, etc | 15:35 |
| dscassel_ | mhall119: For time zones. You have no idea the amount of grief I'm getting for trying to get people to use the LD without them. | 15:44 |
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| mhall119 | nigelb: dholbach already has a teamreports project, are you aware of this? | 17:14 |
| nigelb | mhall119: I am :) | 17:15 |
| mhall119 | dscassel: I can imagine, it's been a major thorn in our side for a long time | 17:15 |
| nigelb | I think nathan started it | 17:15 |
| mhall119 | nigelb: cool, right now there's no guarantees that the code in my branch even has valid syntax | 17:15 |
| mhall119 | and it's subject to some pretty major changes | 17:15 |
| mhall119 | but if you're okay with that, I'd appreciate the testing and feedback | 17:16 |
| nigelb | I'd love to try for the sake of learning and/or helping test your code :) | 17:16 |
| mhall119 | cool, let me know when you get started and I'll try to be around more to provide help | 17:17 |
| nigelb | \o/ | 17:17 |
| czajkowski | TEAM REPORTS | 17:18 |
| mhall119 | Florida didn't do anything in October, we just sat around | 17:34 |
| jledbetter | mhall119, I don't believe you | 17:36 |
| mhall119 | okay, we maybe had a small party the last week of the month | 17:36 |
| jledbetter | Yeah, just a couple of people chillin' and eatin' pizza. | 17:37 |
| mhall119 | yeah, just a couple | 17:37 |
| mhall119 | ...hundred | 17:37 |
| jledbetter | Little shindig indeed. | 17:37 |
| mhall119 | very low key | 17:37 |
| mhall119 | I mean, the movie was only on like a 40 foot screen | 17:38 |
| mhall119 | jledbetter: you really did miss out :( | 17:38 |
| mhall119 | did you see the pictures? | 17:39 |
| jledbetter | Yes. Saw pictures. I'll be there next time it's in Orlando. | 17:39 |
| mhall119 | awesome | 17:39 |
| mhall119 | bring jtatum back with you | 17:40 |
| jledbetter | Hm... Well, ok ;) | 17:40 |
| mhall119 | all this talk of pizza parties has made me hungry | 17:41 |
| jledbetter | Almost lunch time :) | 17:44 |
| * mhall119 just uploaded UDS party pics to flickr so they'll show on our team page in LD | 17:57 | |
| mhall119 | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-florida so nice :) | 17:57 |
| karthick87 | Hi..!Can anyone help me in creating a loco team? | 19:24 |
| karthick87 | Anyone..??? | 19:27 |
| serfus | karthick87, you should contact one of the loco-council | 19:29 |
| karthick87 | serfus: wanna contact whom? | 19:30 |
| czajkowski | serfus: what's up? | 19:31 |
| czajkowski | karthick87: what loco team are you looking to start up | 19:31 |
| serfus | :) | 19:31 |
| karthick87 | czajkowski: I am from india.I would like to start a locoteam for my state | 19:32 |
| czajkowski | karthick87: there is already an indian team as far as I'm aware | 19:33 |
| czajkowski | karthick87: you should talk to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/indian-team | 19:33 |
| karthick87 | czajkowski: Thank you :) | 19:35 |
| czajkowski | no problem | 19:36 |
| czajkowski | time for dinner | 19:36 |
| czajkowski | toodles | 19:36 |
| serfus | bon appetit | 19:36 |
| CrazyLemon | hm..do you guys know to whom i must complain if RSS feed for Canonical's news & events doesnt work (meaning it returns 404 for every feed) ? | 19:39 |
| paultag | hey serfus | 19:39 |
| paultag | hey karthick87 :) | 19:39 |
| karthick87 | hiyas paultag :) | 19:39 |
| serfus | howdy paultag, what's up? | 19:40 |
| paultag | serfus, thanks for the redirect, you rock | 19:40 |
| paultag | karthick87, anything I can help with? | 19:40 |
| paultag | Oh wait, czajkowski already took care of you | 19:40 |
| paultag | nevermind | 19:40 |
| karthick87 | paultag: yeah sure | 19:41 |
| karthick87 | paultag: I wanna contribute for ubuntu documentation.Can you guide me? | 19:42 |
| paultag | /join #ubuntu-doc | 19:42 |
| paultag | karthick87, ^ | 19:42 |
| karthick87 | oke :) | 19:43 |
| czajkowski | CrazyLemon: webmaster | 19:43 |
| CrazyLemon | czajkowski ok..tnx :) | 19:44 |
| czajkowski | no problem | 19:44 |
| paultag | !lococouncil > paultag | 19:45 |
| ubot4 | paultag, please see my private message | 19:45 |
| paultag | !lococouncil > czajkowski | 20:01 |
| ubot4 | czajkowski, please see my private message | 20:01 |
| AlanBell | CrazyLemon: who you can sometimes find in #ubuntu-website | 20:58 |
| CrazyLemon | AlanBell thanks but i guess someone just took out blogs and other feeds from canonical.com/rss.xml so now only canonical related feeds are on that RSS | 21:00 |
| AlanBell | I have no idea | 21:01 |
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