=== |mirttex| is now known as dantti_desktop [00:40] ScottK: ping [00:40] [muon] jmthomas * 1198858 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ApplicationWindow.cpp Better sizing policy for the sidebar; horizontal resizing no longer makes the sidebar smaller [00:41] [muon] jmthomas * 1198859 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/muon/installer/ (ApplicationWindow.cpp ViewSwitcher.cpp) Oops. Fix the last commit [01:18] Riddell: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/4353 <-- really, exciting has a c! i'm not joking! [02:08] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1198876 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.cpp backend.h) Add a new workerState() function to the QApt::Backend that returns the last event that the worker reported. (No running worker will return an InvalidEvent) [02:52] DarkwingDuck: Pong === muesli_ is now known as muesli [04:27] ScottK: it will be a couple days on that script.... its hacked together and i keep breaking it trying to do what i need it to [08:53] Can anyone help me with trying to compile Audex? I can't use it on 10.10 due to the change with vorbis-tools === hrw|gone is now known as hrw|conf === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [09:47] omfg [10:24] shadeslayer: http://np237.livejournal.com/29608.html [10:24] apachelogger: ^ [10:24] try this [10:29] Quintasan: what is there to try? [10:30] well, you were mumbling that dpkg in pbuilder is slow :P [10:31] dpkg [10:31] *is* [10:31] slow [10:31] because it is moving massive amounts of data [10:31] cause it uses fsync lol [10:31] not because it fsyncs them [10:31] whatever, just try it [10:34] * apachelogger is not gonna try 5% improvement techniques when he has one that promises >50% [10:37] is anyone here using Audex? [10:39] * apachelogger does not even know what that is [10:39] apachelogger: A CD ripping program [10:39] k3b ftw! [10:40] * apachelogger actually uses the audiocd slave but realizes that he probably is one of a few ^^ [10:40] does k3b fetch the cover art? [10:40] I'm trying to fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audex/+bug/668682 [10:42] amarok fetches the cover art [10:43] amarok seems to dislike storing the cover art properly [10:43] define properly [10:44] if i play a track from an album where the cover is missing and then fetch it, if i play a 2nd track the cover is missing again [10:46] This is the error I'm getting from building Audex: audex-0.72b1/utils/upload.h:31: fatal error: KIO/MkdirJob: No such file or directory [11:01] * apachelogger is wondering what file called upload had to do with cover download [11:04] apachelogger: I've no idea, but it is stopping me from compiling it [11:10] oh [11:10] well [11:10] that is a different story [11:10] supposedly it is only compatible with kde 3 [11:10] !find MkdirJob [11:10] Package/file MkdirJob does not exist in maverick [11:10] see [11:11] or maybe it jost never existed [11:11] who knows [11:12] it says it is a KDE4 app [11:12] maybe it is too new [11:12] or just buggy [11:12] only one way to find out [11:12] oh dear, my sister is singing again [11:12] * apachelogger closes door and turns up amarok's volume [11:13] mfraz74: that build failure is fixed in the ubuntu/debian audex package [11:14] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/includes/KIO/ [11:14] there [11:14] no such file [11:14] * apachelogger blames all on audex [11:15] debfx: how can i add the patch for vorbis-tools and compile it myself? [11:16] Riddell: Some users of kubuntu-de.org said the translations for German aren’t complete and I have to agree that [11:16] bulldog98: that is a bit vague [11:16] also if it is not complete one probably should do something about it? [11:16] ... [11:16] being native german speaker and all [11:16] :P [11:17] apachelogger: MkdirJob has been removed in KDE 4.4 [11:17] apachelogger: for example the lancelot translations aren’t shiped, but I know it’s 100% translated in German [11:17] debfx: isnt that against kdelibs policy or something? [11:17] bulldog98: because it is pyth0rn I suppose [11:18] interesting [11:18] apachelogger: ? [11:18] * apachelogger got a en_GB lancelot, but no german one [11:18] (translation files that is) [11:18] have removed the line that includes mkdirjob and it seems to be compiling now [11:18] http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/ba09c013d6addc8e?fwc=1 [11:20] Riddell: I think phonon-gst has problems with streaming in general, not just last.fm [11:24] ScottK: http://www.notmart.org/index.php/BlaBla/Meego_summit_and_Mobile_sprint_ more prototypes we can roll versions for ^^ [11:25] !find lancelot.mo [11:25] File lancelot.mo found in language-pack-kde-ar-base, language-pack-kde-be-base, language-pack-kde-ca-base, language-pack-kde-cs-base, language-pack-kde-csb-base, language-pack-kde-da-base, language-pack-kde-de-base, language-pack-kde-el-base, language-pack-kde-en-base, language-pack-kde-eo-base (and 43 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lancelot.mo&mode=&suite=maverick&arch=any [11:25] hmmm [11:26] ah [11:26] there i is [11:26] stupid slocate refused to list my local lancelot.mo [11:28] hm [11:28] it is completely translated according to launchpad, it is installed, and yet lancelot talks english [11:36] bulldog98: I blam lancelot [11:36] *blame [11:37] apachelogger: me, too. I’ve got language-pack-kde-de-base installed [11:38] just got the po from kde 4.5.1 and compiled it [11:38] now lancelot uses that [11:38] 3658 stat64("/usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/lancelot.mo", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8239, ...}) = 0 [11:38] still it is untranslated [11:41] apachelogger: hm I’ll look into that [11:59] I now have a working Audex in Kubuntu 10.10 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:18] anybody here? o/ [12:21] no [12:22] * apachelogger goes with a knife after glib [12:23] exterminate! [12:29] could someone highlight me? I'm testing integrate konversation with indicator-applet. [12:30] hello ari-tczew [12:31] * apachelogger finds the internal architecture of phonon-gst a bit silly [12:32] ulysses: It works! thanks [12:38] hm [12:38] QtGstreamer todo: Investigate the usage of exceptions [12:38] that surely is a proper Qt library [12:38] ... [13:04] apachelogger: im sick... literally ... had to rush the doctor... [13:05] Quintasan_: that is one heck of a name [13:08] I knew that libeatmydata.so existed, but I didn't know that someone actually packaged that... [13:19] Riddell: please announce the KDE 4.5.3 packages for lucid [13:29] could someone sponsor this one? bug 676303 [13:29] Launchpad bug 676303 in konversation (Ubuntu) "[natty] indicator applet doesn't handle konversation notifications" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676303 [13:32] Choqok crashes, backtrace: http://pastebin.com/tgAcscDz [13:32] probably it needs a rebuild against 4.5 too [13:36] guys [13:37] let me repeat what I said yesterday, when the timing was bad (meeting) [13:37] please do *not* use Phonon-GStreamer in Natty [13:37] use Phonon-VLC from Git Master [13:37] it's much better [13:37] believe you me. [13:37] I've hacked on it, seen the code, and used it [13:37] it's better in all regards [13:38] (and the sound quality is awesome, about twice as good as xine) [13:38] Riddell: ^ [13:38] :) [13:39] apachelogger: ^ [13:39] markey: qtwebkit uses gstreamer [13:39] openoffice uses gstreamer [13:39] and we have limited CD space [13:39] that's all nice and dandy [13:39] so, how much space does LibVLC use? [13:39] can you calculate that? [13:40] (also, why on earth would OOo need Gstreamer Oo) [13:41] multimedia in presentations I gather [13:41] so incredibly important ;) [13:41] also with libvlc we first have to do license and security evaluations [13:41] so then, if a user uses that, it could auto-download the gstreamer foo [13:41] for all of the 5 users that need it [13:42] markey: that implies that someone touched the ooo code base [13:42] apachelogger: then please do that. talk to j-b [13:42] he's nice [13:42] (Jim Beam) [13:42] qtwebkit still depends on gstreamer [13:42] anyway, I very much doubt that LibVLC uses much space [13:43] you don't want users complain about a crashing Amarok, I guess? [13:43] that's kinda more important [13:44] ulysses: does it crash on start or is it a randomn crash? [13:45] also do check bugs.kde.org [13:45] shadeslayer: after refreshing the timeline [13:45] ulysses: thats a bug in choqok i think [13:45] it was reported on bugs.kde.org [13:47] kde bug 257220 [13:47] KDE bug 257220 in general "Choqok crashes after timeline refresh" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257220 [13:47] seems like the same backtrace [14:19] ok so we have 4.6 beta 1 tarbals [14:19] *tarballs [14:29] shadeslayer: where di you get the sickness? [14:29] pregnancy? [14:29] dunno... [14:29] lol... [14:29] nope ... change in weather [14:30] Oh crap, this ubuntu-bug stuff makes it impossible to file a bug [14:30] well, if it is sickness in the morning... [14:30] morning sickness one could say [14:30] ... [14:30] hm [14:31] aspect is messsed up [14:31] http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/phonon-qml-native.ogv [14:31] shadeslayer: ^^^^^^ [14:31] markey: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [14:31] Riddell: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [14:31] * apachelogger is wondering where sheytan is hiding again [14:32] brb [14:37] better quality http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/phonon-qml-native.avi [15:49] apachelogger: If Ubuntu still has meego images it might be nice to have the needed bits to run plasma on them. [16:13] apachelogger: Null Project? really? :P [16:13] bug 677845 [16:13] Launchpad bug 677845 in meta-kde (Ubuntu) "kde-devel metapackage is missing in Maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677845 [16:13] shadeslayer 2>&1 /dev/null [16:14] what [16:14] Mamarok: the new package is called kde-sc-dev-latest btw [16:15] or something like that [16:15] no [16:15] that just ensures the packages you have are from the latest sc [16:16] Depends: debhelper (>= 7.2.3~), cmake (>= 2.6.3~), automoc (>= 1.0~version-0.9.88), pkg-kde-tools (>= 0.9.1) [16:16] Breaks: kdebase-workspace-dev (<< 4:4.5.1), kdelibs5-dev (<< 4:4.5.1), kdepimlibs5-dev (<< 4:4.5.1), libkdcraw-dev (<< 4:4.5.1), libkexiv2-dev (<< 4:4.5.1), libkipi-dev (<< 4:4.5.1), libmarble-dev (<< 4:4.5.1) [16:38] oh [16:38] uh [16:38] omg [16:38] Riddell: phonon-gstreamer is broken [16:38] please do not ship it [16:39] amarok cannot play mp3's [16:39] shadeslayer: We need to see if it's fixable. [16:39] shadeslayer: You should speak to our Phonon maintainer. [16:39] * shadeslayer stares at apachelogger [16:39] roflor [16:39] apachelogger: amarok does not play anything with phonon-backend-gstreamer [16:40] shadeslayer: just like dvds, we do not support mp3 playback out of the box :P [16:40] yeah, well, install plugins [16:40] ... [16:40] moar packages? :O [16:40] im trying to keep my install footprint minimal [16:41] see phonon-backend-vlc is awesome [16:41] vlc also has plugins -.- [16:42] yes but i just have the PA one [16:42] Riddell, ScottK: a true point though, we need to port codec magic from xine to gst [16:42] OTOH phonon-gst can handle this stuff internally, since gstreamer emis a signal if it cannot find an appropriate codec [16:42] for gstreamer i have bad, ugly, and good [16:42] so we could hook phonon-gst up with kpk or something [16:43] apachelogger: seen this http://is.gd/htf7B ? [16:44] apachelogger: also im getting a HTC Desire on monday ^_^ [16:46] there, now I am having morning sickness [16:54] hehe.... [16:54] apachelogger: because of the link? [16:55] because of android [16:55] if (ip != this->ip) free(ip); [16:56] who wants to guess what ip stands for? [16:58] instruction pointer? [16:58] points to next instruction on the stack....... [16:58] not on the stack :> [16:59] well [16:59] quite honestly I would not even care if shadeslayer managed to put the instructions on the stack and called the pointer ip [16:59] but this my friends is an instance pointer :P [17:00] * apachelogger cannot crash his amarok [17:01] but I get stutters [17:01] :D [17:23] !find [17:23] Search for a package or a file: !find [17:23] !find gstreamer-codec-install [17:23] Package/file gstreamer-codec-install does not exist in maverick [17:23] omg! [17:23] !find gstreamer-nogui [17:23] Package/file gstreamer-nogui does not exist in maverick [17:29] aha! [17:29] gstreamer-codec-install is an alternative [17:29] provided by for example gnome-codec-install [17:30] I gather, if we wrote kde-codec-install we would b ethe kings of the world [17:30] or something like that [17:30] apachelogger: I've got ice cream working with the older gcc from a logged in pbuilder. One thing I had to deal with was the ccache binary getting ahead of the icecc binary in my path. [17:30] yeah [17:30] well [17:30] ehm [17:31] ccache should go away [17:31] why are you using ccache? [17:31] I didn't do anything explicit to get it. [17:31] :O [17:31] weird [17:31] pbuilder attempts to use it by default, I believe. [17:41] Could not find a signing program (pgp or gpg)! [17:41] grr [17:42] gpg is installed, I cannot discover what is wrong [17:42] debuild -S -sa is not working anymore :( [17:45] shadeslayer, rdieter: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot96.png [17:46] apachelogger: *hugs* [17:46] apachelogger: looks gnomey .... [17:46] that is gnome though :P [17:46] wheres my KDialog? [17:46] well, easy enough to replicate [17:47] shadeslayer: wanna do it? [17:47] apachelogger: Someone should summon the Ninjas to package 4.5.80, don't you think? [17:47] apachelogger: is it trivial? [17:47] pretty [17:47] apachelogger: can it wait till after Wednesday? :) [17:47] i can do it then [17:48] the app gets called with something like "gstreamer|0.10|My Cool Video Player|Quicktime|decoder-video/quicktime" [17:48] whut? [17:48] supposedly the best thing to do is query packagekit for a suiteable package and offer a selection to the user [17:48] then just invoke some configurable app to carry out installation [17:48] yeah.. like its done with rekonq and amarok [17:49] show notification > direct to kpk [17:49] nah [17:49] naaaah [17:49] that is really better imo.. [17:49] that is bogus and ugly and gross and everything [17:49] you want a KDialog? [17:49] yes [17:49] well [17:49] a window [17:49] no need for a dialog [17:49] i rather like the notification [17:49] ok [17:50] * apachelogger is gonna tell our notificatoin lover about that [17:50] hehehe :D [17:50] shadeslayer: note that this is much more precise than notifications [17:50] at the point the codec installer gets called gstreamer already ran into a codec it cannot play [17:50] so at that point it is a blocking issue to the user who wants to play a file [17:51] which means you need to utilize intrusive/blocking means of allowing the user to fix it [17:51] ah [17:51] apachelogger: this needs to be patched in amarok? or what? [17:51] no [17:51] it is an application [17:52] ah! [17:52] ultimately bundled in with kpackagekit I suppose [17:52] so you should talk to dantii [17:52] a standalone app? [17:52] ohj [17:52] ohk [17:52] because kpk already does half the stuff anyway [17:52] dantti: ^^^ [17:52] hi [17:54] apachelogger: shadeslayer not sure I followed, you guys have an app that needs codecs? [17:55] amarok to be precise... [17:55] well [17:55] which needs gstreamer codecs to work [17:55] any app that uses gstreamer [17:55] PackageKit has a session interface to install those things [17:55] dantti: gstreamer can call a helper app to find codecs it does currently not support [17:56] searchProvide(gstreamer... ) [17:56] but I don't recall if I finished the code in aptcc [17:56] since what the python backend was doing was wrong [17:56] ^^ [17:57] apachelogger: token for example calls this interface in gnome [17:57] it's the same interface [17:57] which btw I should write some kde docs pages about that [17:58] apachelogger: btw I've made some improvements to the kde print tool [17:58] dantti: is it ready for release yet? :D [17:58] but right now I need to know what to do with ppds.py [17:59] I could of course transalte that into c++/qt code but I really want to make that file a C lib shared by python-cups and our tool [17:59] so, lets do that then? [18:00] apachelogger: I sent an email to Tim Waugh, he said that he was thinking on make this file accessible by DBus [18:00] by dbus? :O [18:00] wah? [18:01] but for Debian or any remote cups that requires auth this will suck [18:01] that sounds like going with a rocket after a fly or soemthing [18:01] since py cups does not handle auth [18:01] also if we make this file into a C lib we could patch localhost:631 to use it [18:02] and maybe even Apple helped to maintain it :P [18:03] apachelogger: if you want to help, I will really need your help since there is a bunch of stuff I don't understant in python :P [18:03] sure thing [18:04] apachelogger: http://cyberelk.net/tim/2010/10/26/choosing-the-best-printer-driver/ [19:51] does someone knows why openoffice crashes after the loading banner is gone? [19:51] it crashes on all my pcs, but a friend with kubuntu 10.10 does not have this problem.. [19:52] it seems to be related to the oxygem theme but I'm not sure [19:53] dantti: does it give an error in ~/.xsession-errors? or a segfault message in dmesg? [19:53] yofel: http://pastebin.com/Uy3JT6KR [19:53] this is console output [19:53] I have no ~/.xsession-errors [19:54] I don't know anything about X errors I fear :/ [19:54] oh no I have it :P [19:55] http://pastebin.com/xxnwsi8C [19:55] that's why I think it's related to oxygem gtk [19:55] Riddell ping and pong and all that stuff [19:56] * sheytan feels no luck to cach Riddell [19:59] apachelogger ping [20:01] come on guys, no one around? :D [20:01] shadeslayer: you? :D [20:01] wha [20:01] yeah! [20:01] shadeslayer can i have a request ? :D [20:02] dantti: do you have raster set? [20:02] shadeslayer: yes [20:02] sheytan: if its trivial :D [20:02] looks like i can't cache Riddell, what i'm trying for a long time :D [20:02] dantti: thats your problem [20:02] oh no... :( [20:02] dantti: open office + raster = kaboom [20:02] shadeslayer if you cache Riddell, please show him this http://ryrych.pl/null/kubuntu/index.html [20:02] ok, I'll stick with MS office :P [20:02] lol :P [20:03] raster makes my old ibm pc does not seem so old :P [20:03] sheytan: buttons could be more KDE'ish :) [20:03] shadeslayer first Riddell need to know that's done :) [20:03] shadeslayer: isn't there a fix for that? [20:04] shadeslayer but please remember to show him that page :) [20:04] and thank you :) [20:04] sheytan: just leave him a ping and he will get back [20:04] also [20:04] shadeslayer did many times :D [20:04] apachelogger: ^^^^ [20:04] sheytan: apachelogger was waiting for you [20:04] pinged him too :D [20:04] dantti: nopw [20:04] shadeslayer i know [20:05] *nope [20:05] no time ;/ [20:05] ok :) [20:05] dantti: someone is supposed to be working on it, not sure who tho [20:05] shadeslayer: k, thanks... go go koffice :P [20:05] having a job is cool but it sucks too :D [20:05] yeah :D [20:05] to both of you :P [20:05] anyway, i have to live :D else i couldn't work for kubuntu :D [20:06] sheytan: btw nice page, but it still misses the smartness of guessing the arch of the user.. [20:07] dantti: so many things to think about. But i will, i promisse :) [20:07] hehe .. [20:07] and btw: fedora sucks :D [20:07] hahaha [20:07] it's like experimens before the code comes to red hat [20:07] lol [20:08] well right now all I can say is that pycups sucks.. [20:08] made by... [20:08] * sheytan doesn't know why, but he thinks that apps in python suck [20:08] but not their problem py ^^ [20:10] got to go.. [20:11] dantti: i'll ping y ou when i come out with something :) [20:11] sheytan: k :) it might worth a looking at drivers.nvidia.com maybe it's JS to guess the arch [20:12] yep, i'll think about it. Maybe i'll come out with something cool :) [20:15] shadeslayer: now that you told me the problem I know a simple fix :P QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=native openoffice.org [20:15] dantti: yeah that can be done as well [20:15] but thats just a hack :P [20:15] hehe well at least it works :P [20:16] dantti: libreoffice ftw [20:16] and afaik it works in raster [20:16] ftw? [20:16] dantti: for win [20:17] *for the win [20:17] and yeah, libreoffice works in raster [20:17] ah right [20:17] I'll try it later.. have to go now :P [20:17] cya [20:18] cya [20:23] * yofel wonders why nobody here uses memoserv to catch people [21:45] * ScottK started working on preps for 4.6 beta 1. Doing attica atm. [22:45] I've got polkit-qt-1 and polkit-kde-1 from svn packaged, but hopefully tarballs will appear === hrw|conf is now known as hrw|gone [23:53] attica's uploaded to Ninjas.