| SpamapS | zul: every time I do bug triage I'm reminded that we REALLY need to go over the mysql maintainer scripts and figure out why they never seem to work right. ;) | 00:15 |
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| ewook | SpamapS: that sounds like a great idea. who thought using service for managing it a better idea? ... *grumbles* | 00:23 |
| SpamapS | ewook: service isn't allowed in maintainer scripts. ;) | 00:24 |
| SpamapS | ewook: I actually think there's a race condition in /lib/init/upstart-job .. but smarter people may disagree or feel its not as important as I do. | 00:24 |
| ewook | well, count me out of the smarter part :P | 00:25 |
| mdeslaur | SpamapS: oh, please please please! :) | 00:25 |
| ewook | I thought you were talking about the package in general | 00:25 |
| mdeslaur | SpamapS: every security update, I see the massive amounts to failed to upgrade bugs that get filed | 00:25 |
| SpamapS | mdeslaur: I think there are two problems. One is that we aren't trusting dh_installinit ... the other is, I think, the upstart-job race condition. | 00:35 |
| SpamapS | but.. we'll see... I've added it to my todo list. :) | 00:35 |
| * SpamapS signs off for a bit | 00:35 | |
| === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ | ||
| iclebyte2 | has anyone had trouble with 'screens' not updating in zabbix? | 01:04 |
| Dravekx | what's the difference between 10.10 and 10.10LTS ? | 01:25 |
| Pici | Dravekx: 10.10 is not an LTS release. | 01:26 |
| Pici | !lts | 01:26 |
| ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) | 01:26 |
| Dravekx | ahh. | 01:26 |
| Pici | LTS releases come out every two years. So: 6.06, 8.04, 10.04, etc. | 01:26 |
| Dravekx | Pici, thx | 01:27 |
| Pici | Dravekx: sure | 01:27 |
| centaur5 | Any ideas on how I can find out why jesred isn't redirecting any traffic from squid? No configuration changed but it quit working and I can't find any error logs for jesred. Is there anything that can tell me what's happening? | 01:44 |
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| === Eric is now known as Guest83507 | ||
| Evanah | hi | 02:52 |
| === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond | ||
| Evanah | anyone here? i need help with running a game under wine, after installing and trying to run it an error pops out saying: "Failed to initialize direct3D. Aborting." does anyone know how to fix this? | 02:57 |
| * ball is not here. | 02:57 | |
| ball | Evanah: You're running a game on Ubuntu Server? | 02:57 |
| Evanah | no, i just need help with this so i came here, cause i'm desperate and can't solve this, i've tried ubuntu forums and all | 02:58 |
| Evanah | this is my first time here, sorry if i'm asking for help in a wrong place | 02:59 |
| ball | Evanah: Where do you live? There may be a regional Ubuntu channel where you can find help. | 03:00 |
| Evanah | Serbia, Europe.. | 03:00 |
| Evanah | ok i won't bother u anymore, thnx anyway;) | 03:01 |
| ball | Evanah: Don't leave yet, I'm trying to look something up for you. | 03:01 |
| ball | Have you asked in #ubuntu-cs ? | 03:02 |
| ball | Oh hang on, that forwarded me to #ubuntu-cz for some reason | 03:02 |
| * ball is confused | 03:02 | |
| Evanah | no, but i see now there's just "ubuntu" chat room, not ubuntu-server :) i'll try there | 03:03 |
| Evanah | thanks again bye | 03:03 |
| * ball gives up | 03:04 | |
| mike929031238120 | hey im having trouble finding a link to an iso for ubuntu server ppc | 03:42 |
| mike929031238120 | nevermind. cdimage.ubuntu.com is where it's at | 03:45 |
| MTecknology | Using this - http://dpaste.com/277575/ - I have php working - be every so often I seem to get 502 errors. Any ideas why that would be happening? | 03:58 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #431008 in clamav (main) "Reverts permissions on milter socket on upgrade" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431008 | 04:39 |
| MTecknology | Any ideas how to revert to a specific revision in subversion? | 04:43 |
| Dravekx | is there a way to re-install ubuntu server via remote ssh? | 04:45 |
| Dravekx | can someone tell me what the purpose of 10.10 is (since 10.04 LTS seems like the better standard) ? | 05:51 |
| eagles0513875 | was giving me issues again ikonia so i guess i have to setup a 2nd account with an unencrypted home direcotry | 07:11 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #677764 in vsftpd (main) "package vsftpd (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677764 | 07:46 |
| icekk | Hi, I installed cvs on my ubuntu box, can log into it from the box itself, but connection is denied when another box tries to connect | 08:22 |
| icekk | any ideas | 08:22 |
| maddog | hiho | 09:10 |
| maddog | i have a strange problem with one of my ubuntu servers (10.10), the server has a hardware raid 6 and a crypto volume on that. when i copy data via cifs on that volume, the complete server hangs every 300mb for some seconds and then continues as if nothing happened | 09:12 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #677790 in ntp (main) "package ntp 1:4.2.4p8 dfsg-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677790 | 10:32 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #677799 in backuppc (main) "Please merge backuppc 3.2.0-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677799 | 11:06 |
| apporc | Hi everyone, Is it that xen is not supported in 10.04? | 11:56 |
| apporc | : Hi everyone, Is it that xen is not supported in 10.04? | 12:05 |
| apporc | : Hi everyone, Is it that xen is still not supported in 10.04? | 12:05 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #677822 in naturaldocs (main) "[MIR] naturaldocs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677822 | 14:02 |
| eagles0513875 | hey guys | 15:03 |
| eagles0513875 | hey ikonia | 15:04 |
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| StrangeCharm | i'm trying to use the partition manager on the install disk. i can't seem to set my /boot partition as bootable. what am i doing wrong? | 15:37 |
| Dibbler___ | hello , can someone that has hands on experience with this matter , if there are noticable speed differences when installing ubuntu completely encrypted , i need to set up a remote unmanaged pc which at some points may contain sensitive data .. | 16:12 |
| Dibbler___ | i am mostly worried about overhead when doing things like unpacking a few gigs of rar or 7zip files | 16:13 |
| ikonia | Dibbler___: sorry, not following what your asking | 16:14 |
| Dibbler___ | humm , ok , | 16:15 |
| Dibbler___ | i am installing a new copy of ubuntu server , i am considering the option of encrypting the whole thing when enstalling | 16:15 |
| Dibbler___ | since thes erver will be standing somewhere ... public. | 16:15 |
| Dibbler___ | installing sorry | 16:16 |
| Patrickdk | depends on the cpu | 16:16 |
| Patrickdk | but even my cellphone does aes256 at 24MB/sec | 16:16 |
| Dibbler___ | it's a crappy 1 core athlon at 1.2 ghz | 16:16 |
| Patrickdk | most real cpu's these days should give you a good 100MB/sec | 16:16 |
| Patrickdk | oh, that is going be lie 30MB/sec | 16:16 |
| Patrickdk | and I dunno why you would ever worry about rar or 7zip | 16:17 |
| Dibbler___ | meh | 16:17 |
| Patrickdk | even if you used raw disk without anything, those would still be unbearably slow | 16:17 |
| Dibbler___ | well anything basically | 16:17 |
| Dibbler___ | i was juat taking it as an example | 16:17 |
| Dibbler___ | any file transfers | 16:17 |
| Patrickdk | like I said, it will cap out at 30MB/sec | 16:17 |
| Patrickdk | you have to pick if that is usable for you or not | 16:18 |
| Patrickdk | what drive you putting in it? | 16:18 |
| Dibbler___ | old pata 80 gig | 16:18 |
| Patrickdk | so that will crap out at 50-60MB/sec | 16:18 |
| Dibbler___ | yes | 16:18 |
| Patrickdk | so as long as you don't use the cpu for stuff, you wouldn't notice | 16:19 |
| Dibbler___ | so that won't be the bottleneck anyway | 16:19 |
| eagles0513875|2 | ikonia: is there anything out of the ordinary i need to do to my Maildir if i create a new user and move my current users Maildir to another home folder? or should it work out of the box for me with out any tweaking? | 16:19 |
| Dibbler___ | that's why i take unrar as an example | 16:19 |
| Dibbler___ | so i would assume i would get ... meeh 15 mb/sec | 16:19 |
| Patrickdk | unrar will use 95% cpu | 16:19 |
| Dibbler___ | instead of 30 | 16:19 |
| Dibbler___ | than thats fine | 16:20 |
| Patrickdk | unrar on that system, would only get 15mb/s maybe, without encryption | 16:20 |
| ikonia | eagles0513875|2: just copy it | 16:20 |
| eagles0513875|2 | ok | 16:20 |
| Dibbler___ | so the encryption would only give 5% overhead then | 16:20 |
| Patrickdk | cause unrar is slow | 16:20 |
| Dibbler___ | and stuff like ... idk parity chacking | 16:20 |
| Patrickdk | now if you tested it with fast encryption, like lzo or something, then the drive would slow it down (or encryption) | 16:20 |
| Dibbler___ | would cap put at 30 | 16:20 |
| Dibbler___ | so i'd have 50% speed for that.. | 16:21 |
| Patrickdk | parity chacking? | 16:21 |
| eagles0513875|2 | also ikonia are all new users created with an encrypted home dir or by default they dont have an encrypted home dir? | 16:21 |
| Dibbler___ | which would be fine i guess | 16:21 |
| Dibbler___ | thnx for the info | 16:21 |
| Dibbler___ | parity checking | 16:21 |
| ikonia | eagles0513875|2: have you encypted the file system ? | 16:21 |
| eagles0513875|2 | no | 16:21 |
| eagles0513875|2 | just a simple ext4 partition no file system encryption | 16:21 |
| ikonia | eagles0513875|2: then no | 16:21 |
| eagles0513875|2 | ok | 16:21 |
| eagles0513875|2 | thanks | 16:21 |
| Dibbler___ | things that arren't cpu intensive | 16:22 |
| Dibbler___ | thnx for the opinion Patrickdk | 16:24 |
| Dibbler___ | ill install both and check the difference | 16:24 |
| Patrickdk | you mean like md5/sha? | 16:24 |
| Patrickdk | those are somewhat cpu intensive | 16:25 |
| Dibbler___ | whatever the default is ubuntu server uses when installing | 16:25 |
| Dibbler___ | i haven't looked into it in detail tbh | 16:25 |
| Patrickdk | heh? why do you care about it when you install ubuntu | 16:26 |
| Patrickdk | that will be a one time thing | 16:26 |
| Patrickdk | so if it takes weeks, why do you really care? | 16:26 |
| Dibbler___ | what ? | 16:26 |
| Dibbler___ | you asked me what type of encryption | 16:27 |
| Patrickdk | no I didn't | 16:27 |
| Dibbler___ | i told you , the default on install | 16:27 |
| Dibbler___ | <Patrickdk> you mean like md5/sha? | 16:27 |
| Patrickdk | "parity checking" | 16:27 |
| Dibbler___ | ah | 16:27 |
| Patrickdk | or did you really mean to use parity bits? those are so unreliable | 16:28 |
| Dibbler___ | i meant whatever quickpar does | 16:28 |
| Dibbler___ | par2 | 16:28 |
| Dibbler___ | par | 16:28 |
| Patrickdk | rs encoding | 16:28 |
| Patrickdk | I've never cared to benchmark that | 16:28 |
| Dibbler___ | i get full drive speed on that on my regular computer | 16:29 |
| Dibbler___ | so i wan't expecting overhead | 16:29 |
| Dibbler___ | wan't | 16:29 |
| Dibbler___ | wasn't | 16:29 |
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| Dibbler___ | sorry for the typo's I was born with only 1 finger | 16:30 |
| Dibbler___ | anyway ill install both and check the difference , if it gives 30 MB/sec i can live with that i supose | 16:30 |
| === squishynothere is now known as rbniknej | ||
| eagles0513875|2 | hey ikonia on the new account im getting this mail error Nov 20 17:58:23 eagle dovecot: IMAP(jaquilina): fchown(/home/jaquilina/Maildir/dovecot-uidlist.tmp, -1, 114(dovecot)) failed: Operation not permitted (egid=1001(jaquilina), group based on /home/jaquilina/Maildir) its showing the inbox but not a list of my folders on squirrelmail | 16:59 |
| eagles0513875|2 | also getting this error Nov 20 17:59:58 eagle dovecot: IMAP(jaquilina): file_dotlock_open() failed with subscription file /home/jaquilina/Maildir/subscriptions: Operation not permitted | 17:00 |
| eagles0513875|2 | never mind i fixed it | 17:02 |
| Psi-Jack | Okay, so when I try to setup in /etc/network/interfaces, a bond, I have bond_mode, bond_miimon, bond_downdelay, bond_updelay, and slaves directives defined, but it never ifenslaves the interfaces specified in slaves. | 17:14 |
| cemc | anybody here any experience with RAID0 on SSD for / ? | 17:15 |
| Psi-Jack | cemc: Using Raid on SSD is by itself not smart with current tech. | 17:16 |
| cemc | because of no TRIM ? | 17:16 |
| cemc | or are there other considerations? | 17:16 |
| Psi-Jack | Especially because of that, but SSD has a limitation on how many times it can write, too, and raid causes extra writing. | 17:17 |
| cemc | raid0 too ? | 17:17 |
| Psi-Jack | Yes | 17:17 |
| cemc | I see | 17:17 |
| Psi-Jack | You would basically blow both of them up at the same time. heh | 17:17 |
| eagles0513875|2 | patdk-wk: wowie never thought an encrypted home directory would create so much havock | 17:18 |
| cemc | Psi-Jack: thanks | 17:20 |
| cemc | Psi-Jack: same thing with LVM? say I have 2x80GB SSDs and I do a big 160GB LV ? | 17:23 |
| cemc | I guess only TRIM won't work here, right? | 17:24 |
| Psi-Jack | That should work, actually. Using mirror, striping, or spanning lvm. | 17:24 |
| Psi-Jack | But of course, mirror would have the same basic effect of raid0. | 17:25 |
| RoyK | striping is a little like russian roulette... | 17:25 |
| cemc | but will I have TRIM there? | 17:26 |
| cemc | would* | 17:26 |
| Psi-Jack | cemc: As far as I know, yes. | 17:26 |
| Psi-Jack | However you might have to take the vg offline to run TRIM. | 17:27 |
| cemc | to "run" TRIM ? | 17:27 |
| Psi-Jack | Seems you know very little about SSD. heh | 17:28 |
| cemc | well not that much, indeed | 17:28 |
| cemc | with having TRIM I meant like with ext4's discard | 17:29 |
| cemc | not 'manual' TRIM | 17:29 |
| cemc | where I have to run some tool to do it | 17:29 |
| cemc | or some script (wiper.sh?) | 17:29 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmmm, with that, I wouldn't know, then. | 17:30 |
| cemc | as I understand it, if you have ext4 on top of a sda, and use discard, the kernel tells the drive to TRIM directly. but if you have LVM under it ? | 17:30 |
| Psi-Jack | yeah, I doubt it would work. | 17:31 |
| cemc | it probably wouldn't make sense, so you'll have to do it 'manually', like running some script to do it, even with offline VG | 17:31 |
| cemc | or offlined raid, from maybe a livecd or something | 17:31 |
| cemc | but I don't like the idea of having to run some 'experimental' script that would potentially destroy the LVM or RAID stuff (by accident :) ) | 17:32 |
| cemc | you could also dump the data to a hdd, then wipe the disks clean, and redo everything, like every 6 months or so (this is a desktop we're talking about). but that's meh ;) | 17:35 |
| icekk | d | 17:56 |
| === eagles0513875|2 is now known as eagles0513875 | ||
| Ejdesgaard | I have installed 10.04.1 server x86 on a soekris net5501-70, with a intel 2200BG. I wan't to set it up as an access point, for my wifi only devices to connect to... But i'm missing a guide for it... any suggestions? | 18:20 |
| centaur5 | Does anybody know of a way I can see what's happening between Squid and Jesred? For some reason it's not redirecting anything even though no configuration changes have taken place. | 18:40 |
| AprilToo | Installing 10.10 server from a USB, it boots fine and I get several steps into the installation. Then it says failed to copy file from CDROM, retry? yes or no. I can execute to the ash shell and see that my USB drive is mounted /cdrom and the contents of it. | 19:22 |
| AprilToo | what directory or file should I be looking for that the installer isn't finding on /cdrom? | 19:23 |
| StrangeCharm | does the bootable flag need to be set on my /boot partition to start up correctly? | 20:11 |
| qman__ | 99% of the time, no | 20:13 |
| qman__ | I do anyway just to avoid any potential problems | 20:13 |
| SpaceBass | hey folks - installed 64bit 10.04 on mac mini hardware - boots to a black screen with blinking cursor | 20:24 |
| SpaceBass | anyone else using minis? | 20:24 |
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| === Psi-Jack- is now known as Psi-Jack | ||
| shauno | how old's the mini? | 20:48 |
| shauno | short version: if "ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi" (under osx) doesn't return EFI64, you'll likely have issues | 20:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #677942 in vm-builder (universe) "package python-vm-builder 0.12.4-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677942 | 20:57 |
| Aison | hello, i'm using cacti to montior some network devices. But somehow I can no longer configure cacti. The menu point Management -> Devices is suddenly blank | 21:11 |
| Aison | error.log of apache says: Floating point exception (8) | 21:11 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #677945 in drbd8 (main) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677945 | 21:12 |
| Aison | argh, I hate NFS, you don't know HOW I hate NFS ;) | 22:51 |
| Aison | eg. a simple rsync with an nfs source: Stale NFS file handle (116) | 22:52 |
| halvors | Hi! | 23:20 |
| halvors | I am runnning a email server | 23:20 |
| halvors | I'am new to that | 23:20 |
| halvors | tSo how do i add domains to the email server? | 23:20 |
| === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ | ||
| halvors | How can i add email users and adresses to the email server? | 23:30 |
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