[00:15] zul: every time I do bug triage I'm reminded that we REALLY need to go over the mysql maintainer scripts and figure out why they never seem to work right. ;) [00:23] SpamapS: that sounds like a great idea. who thought using service for managing it a better idea? ... *grumbles* [00:24] ewook: service isn't allowed in maintainer scripts. ;) [00:24] ewook: I actually think there's a race condition in /lib/init/upstart-job .. but smarter people may disagree or feel its not as important as I do. [00:25] well, count me out of the smarter part :P [00:25] SpamapS: oh, please please please! :) [00:25] I thought you were talking about the package in general [00:25] SpamapS: every security update, I see the massive amounts to failed to upgrade bugs that get filed [00:35] mdeslaur: I think there are two problems. One is that we aren't trusting dh_installinit ... the other is, I think, the upstart-job race condition. [00:35] but.. we'll see... I've added it to my todo list. :) [00:35] * SpamapS signs off for a bit === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ [01:04] has anyone had trouble with 'screens' not updating in zabbix? [01:25] what's the difference between 10.10 and 10.10LTS ? [01:26] Dravekx: 10.10 is not an LTS release. [01:26] !lts [01:26] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) [01:26] ahh. [01:26] LTS releases come out every two years. So: 6.06, 8.04, 10.04, etc. [01:27] Pici, thx [01:27] Dravekx: sure [01:44] Any ideas on how I can find out why jesred isn't redirecting any traffic from squid? No configuration changed but it quit working and I can't find any error logs for jesred. Is there anything that can tell me what's happening? === _TechAway_ is now known as _Techie_ === Eric is now known as Guest83507 [02:52] hi === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [02:57] anyone here? i need help with running a game under wine, after installing and trying to run it an error pops out saying: "Failed to initialize direct3D. Aborting." does anyone know how to fix this? [02:57] * ball is not here. [02:57] Evanah: You're running a game on Ubuntu Server? [02:58] no, i just need help with this so i came here, cause i'm desperate and can't solve this, i've tried ubuntu forums and all [02:59] this is my first time here, sorry if i'm asking for help in a wrong place [03:00] Evanah: Where do you live? There may be a regional Ubuntu channel where you can find help. [03:00] Serbia, Europe.. [03:01] ok i won't bother u anymore, thnx anyway;) [03:01] Evanah: Don't leave yet, I'm trying to look something up for you. [03:02] Have you asked in #ubuntu-cs ? [03:02] Oh hang on, that forwarded me to #ubuntu-cz for some reason [03:02] * ball is confused [03:03] no, but i see now there's just "ubuntu" chat room, not ubuntu-server :) i'll try there [03:03] thanks again bye [03:04] * ball gives up [03:42] hey im having trouble finding a link to an iso for ubuntu server ppc [03:45] nevermind. cdimage.ubuntu.com is where it's at [03:58] Using this - http://dpaste.com/277575/ - I have php working - be every so often I seem to get 502 errors. Any ideas why that would be happening? [04:39] New bug: #431008 in clamav (main) "Reverts permissions on milter socket on upgrade" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431008 [04:43] Any ideas how to revert to a specific revision in subversion? [04:45] is there a way to re-install ubuntu server via remote ssh? [05:51] can someone tell me what the purpose of 10.10 is (since 10.04 LTS seems like the better standard) ? [07:11] was giving me issues again ikonia so i guess i have to setup a 2nd account with an unencrypted home direcotry [07:46] New bug: #677764 in vsftpd (main) "package vsftpd (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677764 [08:22] Hi, I installed cvs on my ubuntu box, can log into it from the box itself, but connection is denied when another box tries to connect [08:22] any ideas [09:10] hiho [09:12] i have a strange problem with one of my ubuntu servers (10.10), the server has a hardware raid 6 and a crypto volume on that. when i copy data via cifs on that volume, the complete server hangs every 300mb for some seconds and then continues as if nothing happened [10:32] New bug: #677790 in ntp (main) "package ntp 1:4.2.4p8 dfsg-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus script post-installation installé a retourné une erreur de sortie d'état 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677790 [11:06] New bug: #677799 in backuppc (main) "Please merge backuppc 3.2.0-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677799 [11:56] Hi everyone, Is it that xen is not supported in 10.04? [12:05] : Hi everyone, Is it that xen is not supported in 10.04? [12:05] : Hi everyone, Is it that xen is still not supported in 10.04? [14:02] New bug: #677822 in naturaldocs (main) "[MIR] naturaldocs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677822 [15:03] hey guys [15:04] hey ikonia === cerber0s is now known as cerberos [15:37] i'm trying to use the partition manager on the install disk. i can't seem to set my /boot partition as bootable. what am i doing wrong? [16:12] hello , can someone that has hands on experience with this matter , if there are noticable speed differences when installing ubuntu completely encrypted , i need to set up a remote unmanaged pc which at some points may contain sensitive data .. [16:13] i am mostly worried about overhead when doing things like unpacking a few gigs of rar or 7zip files [16:14] Dibbler___: sorry, not following what your asking [16:15] humm , ok , [16:15] i am installing a new copy of ubuntu server , i am considering the option of encrypting the whole thing when enstalling [16:15] since thes erver will be standing somewhere ... public. [16:16] installing sorry [16:16] depends on the cpu [16:16] but even my cellphone does aes256 at 24MB/sec [16:16] it's a crappy 1 core athlon at 1.2 ghz [16:16] most real cpu's these days should give you a good 100MB/sec [16:16] oh, that is going be lie 30MB/sec [16:17] and I dunno why you would ever worry about rar or 7zip [16:17] meh [16:17] even if you used raw disk without anything, those would still be unbearably slow [16:17] well anything basically [16:17] i was juat taking it as an example [16:17] any file transfers [16:17] like I said, it will cap out at 30MB/sec [16:18] you have to pick if that is usable for you or not [16:18] what drive you putting in it? [16:18] old pata 80 gig [16:18] so that will crap out at 50-60MB/sec [16:18] yes [16:19] so as long as you don't use the cpu for stuff, you wouldn't notice [16:19] so that won't be the bottleneck anyway [16:19] ikonia: is there anything out of the ordinary i need to do to my Maildir if i create a new user and move my current users Maildir to another home folder? or should it work out of the box for me with out any tweaking? [16:19] that's why i take unrar as an example [16:19] so i would assume i would get ... meeh 15 mb/sec [16:19] unrar will use 95% cpu [16:19] instead of 30 [16:20] than thats fine [16:20] unrar on that system, would only get 15mb/s maybe, without encryption [16:20] eagles0513875|2: just copy it [16:20] ok [16:20] so the encryption would only give 5% overhead then [16:20] cause unrar is slow [16:20] and stuff like ... idk parity chacking [16:20] now if you tested it with fast encryption, like lzo or something, then the drive would slow it down (or encryption) [16:20] would cap put at 30 [16:21] so i'd have 50% speed for that.. [16:21] parity chacking? [16:21] also ikonia are all new users created with an encrypted home dir or by default they dont have an encrypted home dir? [16:21] which would be fine i guess [16:21] thnx for the info [16:21] parity checking [16:21] eagles0513875|2: have you encypted the file system ? [16:21] no [16:21] just a simple ext4 partition no file system encryption [16:21] eagles0513875|2: then no [16:21] ok [16:21] thanks [16:22] things that arren't cpu intensive [16:24] thnx for the opinion Patrickdk [16:24] ill install both and check the difference [16:24] you mean like md5/sha? [16:25] those are somewhat cpu intensive [16:25] whatever the default is ubuntu server uses when installing [16:25] i haven't looked into it in detail tbh [16:26] heh? why do you care about it when you install ubuntu [16:26] that will be a one time thing [16:26] so if it takes weeks, why do you really care? [16:26] what ? [16:27] you asked me what type of encryption [16:27] no I didn't [16:27] i told you , the default on install [16:27] you mean like md5/sha? [16:27] "parity checking" [16:27] ah [16:28] or did you really mean to use parity bits? those are so unreliable [16:28] i meant whatever quickpar does [16:28] par2 [16:28] par [16:28] rs encoding [16:28] I've never cared to benchmark that [16:29] i get full drive speed on that on my regular computer [16:29] so i wan't expecting overhead [16:29] wan't [16:29] wasn't === squishy is now known as squishynothere [16:30] sorry for the typo's I was born with only 1 finger [16:30] anyway ill install both and check the difference , if it gives 30 MB/sec i can live with that i supose === squishynothere is now known as rbniknej [16:59] hey ikonia on the new account im getting this mail error Nov 20 17:58:23 eagle dovecot: IMAP(jaquilina): fchown(/home/jaquilina/Maildir/dovecot-uidlist.tmp, -1, 114(dovecot)) failed: Operation not permitted (egid=1001(jaquilina), group based on /home/jaquilina/Maildir) its showing the inbox but not a list of my folders on squirrelmail [17:00] also getting this error Nov 20 17:59:58 eagle dovecot: IMAP(jaquilina): file_dotlock_open() failed with subscription file /home/jaquilina/Maildir/subscriptions: Operation not permitted [17:02] never mind i fixed it [17:14] Okay, so when I try to setup in /etc/network/interfaces, a bond, I have bond_mode, bond_miimon, bond_downdelay, bond_updelay, and slaves directives defined, but it never ifenslaves the interfaces specified in slaves. [17:15] anybody here any experience with RAID0 on SSD for / ? [17:16] cemc: Using Raid on SSD is by itself not smart with current tech. [17:16] because of no TRIM ? [17:16] or are there other considerations? [17:17] Especially because of that, but SSD has a limitation on how many times it can write, too, and raid causes extra writing. [17:17] raid0 too ? [17:17] Yes [17:17] I see [17:17] You would basically blow both of them up at the same time. heh [17:18] patdk-wk: wowie never thought an encrypted home directory would create so much havock [17:20] Psi-Jack: thanks [17:23] Psi-Jack: same thing with LVM? say I have 2x80GB SSDs and I do a big 160GB LV ? [17:24] I guess only TRIM won't work here, right? [17:24] That should work, actually. Using mirror, striping, or spanning lvm. [17:25] But of course, mirror would have the same basic effect of raid0. [17:25] striping is a little like russian roulette... [17:26] but will I have TRIM there? [17:26] would* [17:26] cemc: As far as I know, yes. [17:27] However you might have to take the vg offline to run TRIM. [17:27] to "run" TRIM ? [17:28] Seems you know very little about SSD. heh [17:28] well not that much, indeed [17:29] with having TRIM I meant like with ext4's discard [17:29] not 'manual' TRIM [17:29] where I have to run some tool to do it [17:29] or some script (wiper.sh?) [17:30] Hmmm, with that, I wouldn't know, then. [17:30] as I understand it, if you have ext4 on top of a sda, and use discard, the kernel tells the drive to TRIM directly. but if you have LVM under it ? [17:31] yeah, I doubt it would work. [17:31] it probably wouldn't make sense, so you'll have to do it 'manually', like running some script to do it, even with offline VG [17:31] or offlined raid, from maybe a livecd or something [17:32] but I don't like the idea of having to run some 'experimental' script that would potentially destroy the LVM or RAID stuff (by accident :) ) [17:35] you could also dump the data to a hdd, then wipe the disks clean, and redo everything, like every 6 months or so (this is a desktop we're talking about). but that's meh ;) [17:56] d === eagles0513875|2 is now known as eagles0513875 [18:20] I have installed 10.04.1 server x86 on a soekris net5501-70, with a intel 2200BG. I wan't to set it up as an access point, for my wifi only devices to connect to... But i'm missing a guide for it... any suggestions? [18:40] Does anybody know of a way I can see what's happening between Squid and Jesred? For some reason it's not redirecting anything even though no configuration changes have taken place. [19:22] Installing 10.10 server from a USB, it boots fine and I get several steps into the installation. Then it says failed to copy file from CDROM, retry? yes or no. I can execute to the ash shell and see that my USB drive is mounted /cdrom and the contents of it. [19:23] what directory or file should I be looking for that the installer isn't finding on /cdrom? [20:11] does the bootable flag need to be set on my /boot partition to start up correctly? [20:13] 99% of the time, no [20:13] I do anyway just to avoid any potential problems [20:24] hey folks - installed 64bit 10.04 on mac mini hardware - boots to a black screen with blinking cursor [20:24] anyone else using minis? === gnoob is now known as lapsusbrutus === Psi-Jack- is now known as Psi-Jack [20:48] how old's the mini? [20:51] short version: if "ioreg -l -p IODeviceTree | grep firmware-abi" (under osx) doesn't return EFI64, you'll likely have issues [20:57] New bug: #677942 in vm-builder (universe) "package python-vm-builder 0.12.4-0ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677942 [21:11] hello, i'm using cacti to montior some network devices. But somehow I can no longer configure cacti. The menu point Management -> Devices is suddenly blank [21:11] error.log of apache says: Floating point exception (8) [21:12] New bug: #677945 in drbd8 (main) "package drbd8-source 2:8.3.7-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: drbd8 kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677945 [22:51] argh, I hate NFS, you don't know HOW I hate NFS ;) [22:52] eg. a simple rsync with an nfs source: Stale NFS file handle (116) [23:20] Hi! [23:20] I am runnning a email server [23:20] I'am new to that [23:20] tSo how do i add domains to the email server? === _Techie_ is now known as _TechAway_ [23:30] How can i add email users and adresses to the email server?