[00:01] <Chipaca> statik: if that plan fails, I'll be looking for help in getting our own libmozjs packaged for this... as otherwise we won't fit on the cd
[00:07] <intrader> beuno, pardon the delay, I did not see your answer. I locate 'Ubuntu Oe...' . This opens a preferences dialog,, in the Services I click on checkbox for Files and say Close. I don't see anything in 'Places'
[00:09] <Chipaca> intrader: hi
[00:09] <Chipaca> intrader: what's the issue?
[00:09] <Chipaca> intrader: beuno is probably afk, or *should* be
[00:09]  * Chipaca looks at beuno
[00:09] <Chipaca> intrader: he's been sprinting for a week solid
[00:10] <Chipaca> intrader: for some upgrade paths, you won't have an Ubuntu One folder in Places
[00:10] <Chipaca> intrader: if that is your case, you can easily add it
[00:10] <intrader> Chipaca, I like to share one file. I found Ubuntu One inside Places->Home
[00:10] <Chipaca> intrader: you're in maverick?
[00:11] <Chipaca> intrader: when you say "share", do you mean publish so anybody with the link and a web browser can find it, or share with a single person so they get it in their ubuntu one?
[00:12] <intrader> Chipaca, yes, I have taken the file and moved it to the Ubuntu One folder. And I want the latter, just for me on all my laptops.
[00:13] <Chipaca> intrader: ah! so that's not sharing, that's syncing :)
[00:13] <Chipaca> intrader: if you sign in with the same ubuntu one account on all laptops, you'll have it everywhere
[00:13] <Chipaca> intrader: is that what you want?
[00:15] <intrader> Chipaca, I stand corrected :). The problem is that on the other computer, when I synchronize tomboy notes, the synchronization fails and I loose one of the files with duplicate on the second laptop.
[00:15] <Chipaca> intrader: files and tomboy notes use completely separate methods of synchronization
[00:16] <Chipaca> intrader: you shouldn't be having the issues you're having with tomboy, but even with that, you should be able to sync a file between computers :)
[00:18] <intrader> Chipaca, I thought ubuntu one would work on both. I will try the file  Further about tomboy, after the synchonize, tomboy does not start all the time. If I am lucky, I will see the yello folder with notes that are local, nothing synchronized.
[00:21] <Chipaca> intrader: oh :(
[00:21] <Chipaca> intrader: now is past EOW for practically the whole team; could you contact us next week about your tomboy issues?
[00:23] <intrader> Chipaca, what is EDW :(
[00:26] <intrader> Chipaca, the second computer's ubuntu folder ->Shared with me, is empty.
[00:26] <Chipaca> intrader: EOW is end-of-week
[00:26] <Chipaca> intrader: ok, let's debug this. Can you tell me the name of the file on the computer where it is?
[00:32] <intrader> Chipaca, so kind willing to hang around. I have been able to see the file on second computer by saying in the Ubuntu Preferences->Services chek the files checkbox.. I will verify if it updated.
[00:35] <intrader> Chipaca, the update from the second laptop is not in the first computer. something not working.
[00:36] <Chipaca> intrader: ok. what is the output of "u1sdtool -s" on each?
[00:38] <intrader> Chipaca, command not found. Do I need to install something?
[00:39] <Chipaca> intrader: ubuntuone-client
[00:40] <intrader> Chipaca, it must be a python thing - before the Command not found it tells me something about 'Command 'olsdtool' from package etc.... How do I write this
[00:40] <Chipaca> intrader: not sure how you don't have that; no wonder file synchronizing is behaving strangely for you :)
[00:41] <Chipaca> intrader: u1sdtool is u-one-sdtool, not u-ell-sdtool, right?
[00:42] <intrader> Chipaca, when I type `ubuntuone-client ulsdtool -s` it tells me that ubuntuone-client not a command
[00:42] <Chipaca> intrader: try "u1sdtool -s"; make sure you write u1sdtool and not ulsdtool
[00:43] <intrader> Chipaca, on the second computer I go to the ubuntu one preferences, and in Services I check on Files. Then I see the update in computer one.
[00:44] <Chipaca> intrader: stop checking and unchecking that; just leave it checked (for now at least)
[00:45] <Chipaca> intrader: make sure it is checked on both computers
[00:45] <intrader> Chipaca, ah, on first computer what I get is 'connection: with user with Network\nldescription: processing queues\nlis_connected: True\nis_error:False\nis_online:True\nqueues:IDLE
[00:45] <Chipaca> intrader: and that in the Devices tab of ubuntuone-preferences, the entry for your computer says it's connected
[00:45] <Chipaca> intrader: excellent
[00:45] <Chipaca> intrader: and in the second one?
[00:47] <intrader> Chipaca, on the second computer nothing, only the pythonesque 'Command not found' with something about the namespace ubutuone-client
[00:48] <Chipaca> intrader: could you copy the whole thing to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com ?
[00:49] <intrader> Chipaca, the stuff that I sent with \ns?
[00:50] <Chipaca> intrader: no, the one that failed
[00:53] <intrader> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/534443
[00:53] <intrader> Chipaca,http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/534443
[00:54] <Chipaca> intrader: u1sdtool, not ulsdtool :)
[00:55] <intrader> Chipaca, I don't see the difference
[00:56] <Chipaca> intrader: u-one-sdtool versus u-ell-sdtool
[00:57] <intrader> Chipaca, the l end the one show the same here on terminal's font
[00:58] <Chipaca> intrader: yeah... add 'look for a better monospaced font' to your to-do list :)
[00:59] <intrader> Chipaca, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/534446
[01:00] <Chipaca> intrader: that's still an ell, not a one
[01:00] <intrader> Chipaca, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/534448
[01:00] <Chipaca> intrader: ok, wait a few seconds and try again
[01:01] <intrader> Chipaca, same
[01:02] <Chipaca> strange
[01:02] <Chipaca> can you check whether "files" is checked in ubuntuone-preferences?
[01:03] <intrader> Chipaca, i broough up the dialog for Ubuntu One Preferences and turned one Service --->Files, and I get same output as in computer one
[01:05] <Chipaca> intrader: could you pastebin this output?
[01:05] <intrader> Chipaca, on computer two I open the file and update it, on computer one I attempt to open, it tells me computer one has it locked ---> we are getting somewhere
[01:06] <Chipaca> intrader: yay
[01:06] <Chipaca> intrader: I deduce this is an openoffice file :)
[01:07] <intrader> Chipaca,  once I exit the spradsheet in computer two, I can open on computer one. Of course it is openoffice!
[01:07] <Chipaca> intrader: excellent then
[01:09] <intrader> Chipaca, the Ubuntu One note in tomboy describes something different from what I see. Services does not have Tomboy Notes
[01:09] <intrader> Chipaca, sorry "Tomboy Web" instead
[01:10] <intrader> Chipaca, how secured is this stuff in ubuntu one?
[01:11] <Chipaca> intrader: the file sync is done over ssl, and the file name and ownership information is physically separate from the file data itself, but the file data is not encrypted in storage
[01:12] <intrader> Chipaca, shall we adjourn ? I need to go to the Apple store. Thanks so much for your help!
[01:12] <Chipaca> intrader: cheers
[09:55] <Koterpillar> How do I move ~/Ubuntu\ One to another place?
[10:31] <duanedesign> Koterpillar:
[10:32] <Koterpillar> ?
[10:32] <duanedesign> hello
[10:32] <Koterpillar> ? ?
[10:33] <duanedesign> you can not move the Ubutnu One folder. But you can sync any folder in your home directory
[10:34] <kklimonda> hola duanedesign, how are you today? :)
[10:34] <duanedesign> hey kklimonda
[10:34] <duanedesign> :)
[10:34] <Koterpillar> Too bad. I keep directories name lowercase, everything else is changed in user-dirs.dirs...
[10:35] <duanedesign> kklimonda: i am fdoing good
[10:35] <kklimonda> it's not really something that can be added to
[10:35] <kklimonda> that can be added to user-dirs.dirs
[10:35] <Koterpillar> I know
[10:35] <kklimonda> (as the content of this file is defined by freedesktop.org)
[10:39] <Koterpillar> thanks... I guess subscribing to #392583 is as good as I can get now :(
[10:39] <kklimonda> bug 392583
[10:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 392583 in ubuntuone-client "move ubuntuone default location (affects: 7) (heat: 7)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392583
[10:40] <kklimonda> looks like it, youcan also click on affects me too
[10:40] <duanedesign> kklimonda: you are in poland?
[10:40] <Koterpillar> Already.
[10:44] <kklimonda> duanedesign: yes, I am
[10:46] <duanedesign> kklimonda: was just looking at a map of the next UDS location (budapest)
[10:46] <duanedesign> you and rye will not have far to go :)
[10:47] <kklimonda> yes, it's just around the corner :)
[10:47] <kklimonda> much nicer than the 16 hours long flight
[10:47] <kklimonda> and in the same timezone
[10:47] <duanedesign> wow
[10:48] <duanedesign> i have never been on a flight that long
[10:48] <kklimonda> well, it was the sum of two flights and waiting in between
[10:48] <duanedesign> I really want to make the next UDS though. I have always wanted to visit europe
[10:49] <kklimonda> hope to see you in few months then :)
[10:50] <duanedesign> kklimonda: how is your coding coming along
[10:50] <kklimonda> duanedesign: I'm preparing first merge of couchdb-glib for tomorrow, I hope to get rest of them ready by the end of the week.
[10:51] <duanedesign> nice
[10:52] <kklimonda> I got my gnome git account so I can work on it directly \o/
[10:57] <duanedesign> i think i got my bug fixed in CLI Companion. I ned to get caught up. Got lots of 'anxious' users
[10:58] <duanedesign> sometimes i think users forget a lot of this software is free and created by volunteers. I got an email from a user who threatened to 'no longer use my product' lol
[10:59] <kklimonda> heh
[11:01] <kklimonda> Maybe they should consider paying you for fixing it ;)
[11:01] <duanedesign> :)
[11:03] <duanedesign> i am glad peple have found the software useful
[11:04] <kklimonda> sure, it's always nice to know that what you write is something others find useful.
[11:04] <duanedesign> or they can fix it themselves
[11:04] <kklimonda> I'd actually prefer people paying me for fixing bugs than sending fixes themselves ;)
[11:05] <duanedesign> and thhat they find it useful enough that they write me an email demanding bug fixes and new features
[11:06] <kklimonda> heh, something is broken if they demand bug fixes and new features but don't put the money where their mouth is.
[11:08] <kklimonda> which reminds me that I haven't had time to work on my feed reader for days :/
[11:10]  * duanedesign nods
[11:11] <duanedesign> i have been meaning to get back to developing Stipple. I put it on the back burner while Couch replication was down
[11:11] <kklimonda> some of it is superseeded by OneConf, right?
[11:11] <kklimonda> for example "list of installed applications"
[11:12] <duanedesign> kklimonda: yes it was
[11:12] <duanedesign> kklimonda: so what i did was make it plug in based
[11:12] <duanedesign> that wat i could pull and add features
[11:12] <duanedesign> way*
[11:13] <kklimonda> how did you do empathy logs?
[11:13] <kklimonda> I have quite a lot of code for telepathy-logger written
[11:13] <kklimonda> ah, you sync files with logs
[11:13] <kklimonda> I've written a couchdb backend for telepathy-logger
[11:14] <kklimonda> got stuck on getting avatar pictures and full name of contacts in telepathy-logger window, looks like the API was lacking :/
[11:14] <kklimonda> and I'll have to rewrite quite a lot of code now that I've refactored couchdb-glib.. blah.
[11:16] <duanedesign> i started a project to put all my irssi (IRC) logs into couchdb
[11:16] <duanedesign> and then create a viewer to search and read them
[11:17] <duanedesign> i got the firsst part done...but havent completed the viewer
[11:20] <duanedesign> i have a folder full of half finished applications :P
[11:21] <kklimonda> :)
[11:21] <kklimonda> I know the problem :)
[11:21] <kklimonda> I have quite a few ideas for nice applications
[11:22] <kklimonda> but not nearly enough time (and skills) to write most of them
[11:22] <kklimonda> now I'd like to finish couchdb-glib, telepathy-logger for couchdb and my news reader..
[11:23] <duanedesign> yeah.
[11:23] <duanedesign> kklimonda: what is the news reader name?
[11:27]  * duanedesign goes to get breakfast
[11:39] <kklimonda> duanedesign: kangaroo
[11:51] <kklimonda> duanedesign: btw, where do you live?
[11:52] <kklimonda> isn't it somewhere in US?
[11:52] <kklimonda> ah, right - it's around 8am there?
[12:22] <duanedesign> kklimonda: Tulsa, oklahoma (U.S.)