[09:06] <retku> ummm, I am having a problem installing lubuntu to Fujitsu Siemens AmiloPro V2000: nothing happens after choosing "Install Ubuntu"
[09:08] <retku> and "nothing" means desktop without panels or anything
[09:42] <retku> and there is mouse too what I can move
[09:42] <retku> nothing else
[09:53] <retku> I have only succeed to install ubuntu 9.04, should I try this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce?
[09:57] <szczur> 9.04 is very old and it's unsopported
[09:57] <szczur> unsupported*
[09:59] <retku> yes but install 9.04 and then install lubuntu from it and then remove ubuntu
[09:59] <retku> i mean lubuntu
[10:00] <retku> yes but install 9.04 and then install lubuntu from it and then remove ubuntu. Thats what i wanted to say
[10:00] <szczur> you can install 10.04 and intall lubuntu this way too
[10:01] <retku> i could not install ubuntu 10.04 or 9.10 or 10.10
[10:01] <szczur> ohhh
[10:01] <retku> I dunno why
[10:02] <szczur> does it give any error?
[10:02] <szczur> or just fails just because it said so :)
[10:02] <retku> yes ubuntu 10.10 gave several and 9.10 and 10.04 just went to a white/black screen
[10:07] <retku> now I tried install lubuntu by pressing "try ubuntu" when i click "Install lubuntu" from desktop I get only desktop and mouse, every panels etc. go away
[10:14] <retku> Is it possible to do the installation in textbased way by pressing "alt ctrl f6"?
[10:17] <szczur> retku, not from livecd
[10:17] <szczur> you need the alternate cd or mini.iso
[10:18] <retku> but it need internet connection?
[10:18] <szczur> not for alternate cd
[10:18] <szczur> but you need it for mini.iso
[10:19] <jjovereats> Is it okizzay for me to use Compiz on Lubuntu, or would that defeat the object (it works on the dell to the right of this computer)
[10:19] <szczur> retku, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/AlternateInstall
[10:21] <szczur> jjovereats, i think it wouldn't make sense. however if you have fast PC you can do it.
[10:22] <szczur> it won't be so fast then, but still faster than gnome+compiz :)
[10:28] <retku> szczur: so installing using alternative cd does NOT need internet connection, what I can't use?
[10:29] <szczur> retku, if internet connection is available at the time doing alternate installation it will update packages and install language packs
[10:29] <jjovereats> BE* and o2 users have been Qlined by #ubuntu.
[10:29] <szczur> if it is not then it will install packages from cd without updating them
[10:30] <hyperair> jjovereats: qlined?
[10:32] <retku> This cant be true, even the screen saver works in my lubuntu installation but I cannot install
[10:34] <jjovereats> hyperair: Q:lined.
[10:34] <hyperair> jjovereats: is that different from klined?
[10:34] <jjovereats> Yes. Every Be* and o2 user is kill lined in one line.
[10:35] <hyperair> jjovereats: eh. what did they do?
[10:36] <jjovereats> I blew up. And instead of kickbanning me for 2 days, they disrespectfully Q-lined o2 users. Lots of whom may also be needing help.
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[10:37] <jjovereats> what is with buffered bytes?
[10:37] <hyperair> O_o
[10:37] <hyperair> blew up?
[10:38] <bazhang> muted
[10:38] <hyperair> O_o?
[11:28] <jjovereats> O_o?
[11:45] <leszek> hi
[13:51] <retku> So hey, I have failed to install ubuntu 9.10, 10.04LTS and 10.10 and lubuntu 10.10. only the 9.04 ubuntu did install correctly. Laptop is Fujitsu Siemens Amilo V2000
[13:51] <retku>  Should I try lubuntu 10.10 alternative cd or xubuntu 10.10?
[13:59] <kosaidpo> hello people
[14:01] <kosaidpo> anynoe have a fix to turn the panel tranparent in lubuntu i read on the web that its caused of pcmanfm but i found no fix thanks
[14:03] <retku> Well I burned ubuntu alternative to cd and now booting, hope that works with my Fujitsu Siemens Amilo V2000
[14:04] <kosaidpo> retku: good luck
[14:20] <kosaidpo> guys cud this solve my issue i dont understand the procces of it ,if someone will help wud be cool https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=831135#p831135
[14:22] <phillw> kosaidpo: I understand that the transparancy issue is a known bug, if you read the email you sent to the support team.
[14:22] <kosaidpo> phillw: yeh i did it says its an issue from pcmanfm
[14:23] <phillw> we have to wait for pcman to get time to fix it. He will get it fixed.
[14:24] <kosaidpo> phillw: and can you please check this out https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=831135#p831135 and tell me if ill fix it
[14:26] <phillw> you can try it out, the guy didn't report it completely breaking his system.
[14:26] <retku> What is the main difference between xubuntu and lubuntu?
[14:27] <kosaidpo> xubuntu use the xcfe desktop envimeent ad lubuntu use LXDE
[14:28] <kosaidpo> this is the main one to me since i dont kno how to deep my noise in this things :P
[14:30] <phillw> retku: lubuntu needs about 1/3 of the resources of a computer than xubuntu or ubuntu.
[14:31] <retku> so the ram is needed like: Ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu highnest first?
[14:32] <phillw> ubuntu and xubuntu need about the same RAM, lubuntu needs about 1/2 of it.
[14:33] <retku> Oh, then lubuntu should be best from those to old laptop with 256MB RAM.
[14:35] <phillw> retku: yes, and if you're on an older laptop with 256MB it's best to use the ethernet lead and go via a minimal install method.
[19:38] <retku> How can I set software center to the menus?
[19:39] <retku> now I can only use it with command line
[19:59] <Kurdistan> phillw hurry up
[20:00] <Kurdistan> I want the bug of lubuntu menu not fully translated
[20:00] <Kurdistan> I fixed so one person can take care of that
[20:00] <phillw> Kurdistan: pop it onto the mailing list, it will get integrated.
[20:01] <Kurdistan> phillw this person have translate alot of lxde things to swedish
[20:02] <phillw> Kurdistan: then he should be familiar with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Translations if not, ask him to read and join.
[20:03] <Kurdistan> phillw thx
[20:03] <Kurdistan> phillw can you give me a link about the bug
[20:03] <retku> How can I set software center to the menus/desktop shortcut?
[20:04] <phillw> Kurdistan: not off the top of my head, if you ask on the mailing list I'm sure gilir will tell you of the bug or make a new one for you.
[20:05] <Kurdistan> phillw, you gave me information from your forum about the two big bugs.
[20:05] <Kurdistan> can you give it to me
[20:09] <phillw> Kurdistan: they're not on my forum, they are on the main wiki area at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/MaverickMeerkat/
[20:11] <Kurdistan> done
[20:12] <Kurdistan> he will take care
[21:01] <Mikelevel> any special package for laptops?
[22:47] <Guest19566> do i need to do something special to talk to someone for help on an issue?