[00:49] <Meeko> Is right click supported in utouch yet?
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[03:40] <Drakeson> how can I get a netbook session now?
[03:40] <BUGabundo> no idea
[03:41] <Drakeson> there is none in gdm
[03:41] <bazhang> Drakeson, on 11.04?
[03:41] <BUGabundo> I can't even get my applet bars to work
[03:41] <IdleOne> Drakeson: yeah it disappeared
[03:41] <BUGabundo> that's not GDm
[03:41] <bazhang> is there even an alpha yet?
[03:41] <BUGabundo> it makes you think it is
[03:41] <BUGabundo> but it isn't
[03:41] <BUGabundo> !shedule
[03:41] <BUGabundo> !schedule
[03:41] <ubottu> A schedule of Natty Narwhal (11.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyReleaseSchedule
[03:41] <IdleOne> bazhang: no but doesn't stop us from running natty
[03:41] <Drakeson> BUGabundo: _what_ is not GDm?
[03:41] <BUGabundo> what you called GDM
[03:42] <Drakeson> oh, what is it now?
[03:42] <IdleOne> you meant login manager
[03:42] <Drakeson> yes
[03:42] <IdleOne> but yeah it's gone
[03:42] <IdleOne> remove unity and get default ubuntu back
[03:42] <IdleOne> netbook session is still gone though :/
[03:42] <Drakeson> I restart it by "sudo service gdm restart", yet it is not "gdm" ?
[03:43] <Drakeson> I so wants unity!
[03:43] <IdleOne> Drakeson: yeah I was getting used to the netbook version but a recent upgrade went and messed it all up
[03:43] <Drakeson> if I enable the unity plugin in compiz the "unity" bars appear with correct indicators, etc.
[03:43] <IdleOne> I blame gord
[03:43] <IdleOne> :)
[03:44] <Drakeson> well, at least it is not a ppa, now
[03:44] <IdleOne> right, the full brokeness is official lol
[03:44] <Drakeson> IdleOne: it was official before that!
[03:44] <Drakeson> otherwise I wouldn't care so early on
[03:45] <IdleOne> I am looking forward to using unity
[03:45] <IdleOne> I was really starting to like it
[03:45] <Drakeson> one day unity (with mutter!) was shoved to my poor natty machine, breaking it
[03:46] <Drakeson> IdleOne: I guess it is already there, we just need to get a working session startup script. Now if I knew which package contains it ...
[03:47] <Drakeson> there is ubuntu-netbook, and ubuntu-netbook-default-settings, and also ubuntu-netbook-unity-default-settings. with the latter two conflicting with each other.
[03:48] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-unity maybe can help
[03:48] <IdleOne> hmm not a channel
[03:49] <kklimonda> there is no more Ubuntu Netbook on architectures other than armel
[03:49] <Drakeson> yeah, nothing's in there
[03:50] <Drakeson> kklimonda: oh, I see.
[03:50] <Drakeson> the desktop session will use compiz + unity by default, right?
[03:51] <Drakeson> I mean the "Ubuntu Desktop Edition" option in "gdm"
[03:51] <kklimonda> yes
[03:51] <rww> I think so
[03:53] <Drakeson> kklimonda: thanks a lot.
[03:54] <BUGabundo> can't keep my eyes open anymore... nite
[04:08] <Drakeson> is there a package other than unity that I have to install to get the new unity session(s)?
[04:09] <IdleOne> Drakeson: it should pull in what it needs
[04:10] <Drakeson> aah
[04:10] <Drakeson> it seems it does not :(
[04:10] <Drakeson> thanks anyway
[09:13] <nperry> Am I missing somethinng, just install uity from natty repo and no option in ccsm
[09:13] <nperry> Is the option still meant to be there?
[09:14] <nperry> As when I start unity it shows the panels for 5 seconds then goes to a blan desktop
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[12:50] <penguin42> on a boot of todays update it took a while to get through the plymouth disk stuff; it had a 'device is not available yet' that went away after a few secs - it's an internal sata disc so it's a little unusual
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[13:00] <dsxack> I have gone to the menu items suspend and hibernate, anyone else have this?
[13:03] <penguin42> yeh same here
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[13:46] <BUGabundo> o/
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[17:53] <alex88> hi guys, i've tried to install 10.10 on raid system, but it cannot see the hdd, is possible that 11.04 (lastest build) have more luck to see that?
[17:54] <penguin42> alex88: It's possible, it does have a newer kernel - worth a go, although remember that it's very very new and anything may break
[17:54] <alex88> i know, i'm used with alpha and beta versions.. it's not a problem :)
[17:55] <penguin42> it's pre-alpha - it's even more broken than Alpha!
[17:55] <alex88> because i've a  marvell sata6 raid controller + 2 wd caviar black sata6 hdd and 10.10 doesn't see anything
[17:55] <penguin42> hmm that's a pain; what does lspci show as the id ?
[17:57] <alex88> i haven't it running now, if you want i can boot at 10.10 and tell you..
[17:57] <alex88> if you have time..
[17:58] <alex88> windows seems to see 1b4b:91a3
[17:59] <penguin42> just give me a sec
[18:00] <alex88> sure
[18:00] <alex88> penguin42, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9971762&postcount=22 can be real?
[18:01] <penguin42> alex88: Yeh that could be real; it'll be a firmware raid but I'd expect dmraid to be exactly what you would need to deal with it
[18:02] <alex88> so i'll try to remove it..
[18:02] <penguin42> alex88: Have you configured it as a RAID in the BIOS?
[18:02] <penguin42> or do you just want to see the drives?
[18:02] <alex88> yup, i've tried also as ahci but no luck
[18:02] <alex88> i want to install ubuntu.. :)
[18:03] <penguin42> yeh but what have you told the BIOS?
[18:04] <alex88> sorry i don't understand, in bios i've set raid, yes
[18:04] <alex88> then configured the controlled that's after the bios.. windows install worked after adding marvell drivers..
[18:04] <penguin42> ok; so I've not used one of these guys, but the way I understood it was that if you want Ubuntu to see the same RAID as the BIOS then you need dmraid, if you want to see individual drives then you don't use dmraid
[18:05] <penguin42> thing is I can't see that PCI ID in the Marvell driver in the kernel source
[18:05] <penguin42> sorry, not that useful!
[18:05] <alex88> neither in the 11.04 version?
[18:05] <alex88> sorry but i don't know how to check
[18:06] <penguin42> I don't know, I'm looking in the latest general kernel source, not the ubuntu version
[18:06] <alex88> btw, see individual drives would be no good, it's raid 0 :)
[18:06] <alex88> damn :/
[18:07] <alex88> let me run on livecd and i'll paste lspci etc..
[18:07] <alex88> one sec
[18:08] <penguin42> alex88: OK, so  If the Linux Marvell driver doesn't know about it then use AHCI mode and try that *with* dmraid - it should understand the raid0
[18:12] <alex88[N95]> Booting..
[18:16] <h3sp4wn> What gives you the impression that dmraid0 is better than software raid 0
[18:16] <alex88[N95]> Talking to me?
[18:17] <h3sp4wn> yep
[18:17] <alex88[N95]> I haven't said that
[18:17] <penguin42> h3sp4wn: dmraid is the stuff that understands the software RAID formats defined by the BIOSs
[18:19] <penguin42> alex88[N95]: I think you have the same problem as is shown in bug 658521 which I think is misduped with a different one
[18:19] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 658521 in mountall (Ubuntu) "In Live session or installation HD not recognized (dup-of: 595321)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/658521
[18:19] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 595321 in linux (Ubuntu) "Sata drives not detected by 2.6.35.* kernels" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/595321
[18:19] <alex88> bug 658521
[18:20] <h3sp4wn> I know what it is just don't know why anyone would use it
[18:20] <alex88> btw, can you please re-link bug? alex88[N95] is my phone :)
[18:20] <penguin42> h3sp4wn: If you use it then Linux gets to see the same disk layout as the BIOS and Windows say so you can dual boot and also your boot survives failure of one of the disks in the RAID
[18:21]  * penguin42 goes to make some food - back in 20
[18:21] <alex88> my lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/534965/
[18:22] <alex88> how to get hid like xxxx:xxxx ?
[18:23] <h3sp4wn>  -vv
[18:23] <h3sp4wn> (or just -v if you have a really good memory)
[18:24] <alex88> it isn't there
[18:24] <alex88> in both
[18:24] <h3sp4wn> (unlike me) -n
[18:25] <alex88> ok so it's correct it is 1b4b:91a3
[18:27] <alex88> Thanks to Dave Gilbert to writting for that bug about my problem :ç)
[18:27] <alex88> *:)
[18:33] <alex88> i'm downloading natty cd and i'll try with that
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[18:47] <penguin42> alex88: No problem
[19:04] <penguin42> alex88: I've unduped it, reassigned it linux kernel
[19:13] <alex88> penguin42, thank you, i'm downloading natty to check if something changes
[19:21] <alex88> damn..too big for a cd :)
[19:22] <charlie-tca> Um, the desktop image will run the live environment, but will not install yet
[19:24] <penguin42> charlie-tca: Still, if it sees his disks he'll know it's changed
[19:30] <charlie-tca> yup
[19:30] <charlie-tca> alternate image did install today, too
[19:38] <alex88> penguin42, no luck with natty install
[19:39] <h3sp4wn> From the live cd shouldn't be too difficult to install
[19:40] <h3sp4wn> alex88: Can you boot any distro ?
[19:40] <alex88> h3sp4wn, sure, 10.10, 11.04, the problem is that it don't see the hdd
[19:41] <alex88> cause i have the marvell controlled as talked above
[19:42] <h3sp4wn> Did you try fedora 14 ? (Or sidux ?)
[19:43] <alex88> nope, just ubuntu...why?
[19:43] <h3sp4wn> Fedora seems to have much more effort spent on its kernel
[19:44] <alex88> i'll try it..thank you
[19:45] <h3sp4wn> alex88: And sidux is quite a small distro (only one channel concentrates on having the best hardware support)
[19:45] <alex88> ok, i'll check it out.. thanks :)
[19:59] <Ian_Corne> 260.19.21 is finally in repos
[19:59] <penguin42> alex88: Is it in acpi mode or not at the moment?
[20:03] <alex88> not now, it's in raid
[20:03] <alex88> but i've tried also in that mode
[20:03] <penguin42> alex88: Can you attach the output of dmesg in both modes to that bug - it should help anyone looking at it - i.e. dmesg from the live cd
[20:04] <alex88> raid and ahci?
[20:04] <penguin42> yeh
[20:05] <alex88> ok, give me some minutes..
[20:05] <alex88> on 10.10 ok?
[20:05] <penguin42> alex88: I'm going to disappear in a few minutes, but attach it to the bug and hopefully one of the kernel guys might help; 10.10 is OK, if you can do it from the natty live CD that's probably a bit better
[20:06] <alex88> i'll do in 4 ways..
[20:06] <alex88> can you please just give me bug number?
[20:06] <penguin42> bug 658521
[20:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 658521 in ubiquity "In Live session or installation HD not recognized" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/658521
[20:07] <alex88> ok, going to do that..
[20:07] <alex88> btb
[20:07] <alex88> br
[20:07] <alex88> *brb (damn)
[20:27] <alex88> penguin42, better as attachment?
[20:27] <penguin42> yeh that's fine
[20:28] <alex88> added both of 10.10, now burning again 11.04 to post them
[20:29] <alex88> btw, are you sure that set in raid and ahci changes something?
[20:30] <alex88> because the bios don't see the drives in the storage info, just in the boot order settings
[20:31] <Ian_Corne> gief nvidia beta driver
[20:32] <penguin42> alex88: Not sure, just looking at it - tell me, where is your DVDRAM drive connected to?
[20:32] <alex88> sata, one of the 6 sata-2 ports
[20:32] <penguin42> alex88: And that's a different set of ports to the ones the hard drives are connected to?
[20:33] <alex88> yes, those are on the 2 sata-6 ports, the mobo is a asus p6x58d-e
[20:33] <penguin42> ok, and how many hard drives do you have in there?
[20:33] <alex88> 2 sata-6 hard disks
[20:33] <alex88> only those 2
[20:34] <alex88> set in raid-0 in the marvel controller "bios" that comes up after the bios
[20:35] <penguin42> there is very little difference between the RAID and AHCI boots - I don't quite get it
[20:35] <alex88> if you don't have other questions i'll reboot and post dmesg in natty
[20:35] <penguin42> alex88: I'm going to disappear now, have to leave it to some other guys
[20:36] <alex88> ok, have a nice time and thank you.. i'll check updates into the bug report
[20:37] <alex88> going to reboot..cya
[20:37] <penguin42> alex88: There is a bit where it shows scsi0..scsi5 as ahci and then ata1..ata6 as SATA; the ata are definitely the controller with the DVDRAM drive on, I'm not sure if the scsiblah is just the same device or whether ti actually saw the other one
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[23:03] <BUGabundo> romium-browser/chromium-browser --type=plugin --plugin-path=/home/bugabundo/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so --lang=en-US --plugin-data-dir=/home/bugabundo/.config/chromium/Default --channel=2492.0x7f6bd8165238.534314402: ../../src/xcb_io.c:183: process_responses: Assertion `!(req && current_request && !(((long) (req->sequence) - (long) (current_request)) <= 0))' failed.
[23:03] <BUGabundo> love to see flash screw it