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vishthorwil: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/path.png  how is this one?17:58
vishsome how the first one seems better of the lot, without the mouth..18:00
thorwilvish: if there is white page background, white might be a better choice fore the skin18:40
thorwilvish: mouths are a big problem. try to get the expression across solely with the eyes18:40
thorwilthe current gray on black becomes as good as invisible under some viewing conditions18:41
vishyea, mouth is more work.. and if it is brighter it is more obvious and kinda goofy18:42
vishseems better to just leave it out.. easier rather.. ;)18:42
vishthorwil:  i wanted to use the orange, to keep it closer to the smilies and since i'm using it in the banner.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Ninja-banner.png18:45
thorwilvish: nice typography18:47
vishthorwil: hmm thanks, i can never be sure if you are making fun or are serious.. :p18:48
thorwilvish: ninja could be closer to the type and you have to fine tune left vs right margin18:48
thorwilvish: i don't use sarcasm in such feedback. or i would at least mark it one way or the other18:49
vish :)18:49
* vish checks margins again..18:50
thorwilvish: if you have a gradient/lighting effect like that on the background, it's alway worth applying the same on the foreground. that is, a very subtle gradient to imply the same lighting situation. while considering that the "print" may reflect differently18:51
vishooh..18:52
vishi tried that, but was lazy and tried with only one gradient..18:52
vishwill try with an extra gradient18:52
thorwilvish: the margin on the right needs to be slightly larger to seem as wide as the left one. due to having straight lines on one side, and a curve on the other. the same reason why an o sits slightly below the baseline in common fonts18:53
thorwilactually other way around, but i guess you get the idea ;)18:54
vishthorwil: yeah.. i noticed that and tried to compensate, but looks like it needs a bit more tweaking18:55
thorwilvish: looking at it some more, forget about seemingly equal margins. maje it obviously wider on the right, to babalnce the heavy weight of the smiley a bit18:56
thorwilvish: do you actually have a use for several different expressions? neutral, 2 levels of smiling, a "now what are you up to?" and perhaps surprise should be doable with just eyes18:59
vishthorwil: nah i dont have to use, i was just trying the expressions for the team logo..19:00
vishthorwil: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Ninja-banner-tweak.png  this is just 2px to the right, and it seems empty in the center..19:01
vishwell atleast to my eyes..19:01
thorwilvish: try moving both ninja and type leftwards. perhaps also decrease the gap between them19:03
vishthorwil: seems better now : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Ninja-banner-twe.png19:09
thorwilvish: yes. good use of gradients, too19:10
vishyay, that does it for the logo.. thx thorwil..19:12
thorwilmy pleasure :)19:12
vishgah! now , i'll have to write a blog post and announce the team..19:14
vishthorwil: hehe first i was trying to get it right this way: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/Ninja-banner%20%28another%20copy%29.png ;)19:14
thorwilphew, good thing you changed direction :)19:15
vishyeah, i could not get the right font size.. not sure what's up with that.. after 72 there is only 144 pt19:16
thorwilvish: you do know that you can enter any number there? aside of just scaling the text on-canvas?19:18
vishthorwil: i tried that, but Ubuntu font either doesnt have the size or inkscape is not doing it right here19:19
thorwilvish: here i can have sizes like 80 or 96 without problem19:20
vishthorwil: oops, i was using it wrong!! i had to hit 'enter' , i usually 'tab' out of the fields19:23
thorwil0.o19:23
vishthorwil: like for the x and y axis, i just enter the number and tab to the next..19:24
vishbad inkscape.. ;p19:24
visheven for strokes and other stuff 'tab' is what i always use.. huh! PAPERCUT! ;p19:25

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