/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/11/21/#ubuntu-au.txt

EleanorCould anyone please tell me how my USB drive is suddenly being automounted read-only after I updated?04:50
dns53is it ntfs formatted?04:51
dns53if it was not unmounted correctly it is doing the safe thing and not allowing you to change it until it has been checked04:52
EleanorIt is Fat3204:53
EleanorPerhaps when I restarted. there was no automatic unmount - the system froze and I rebooted04:54
dns53try running something like      sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdb104:56
EleanorThanks - I hope this is alright - I had to mount it befor fsck could find it and I an unaccustomed to checking mounted drives05:00
blahdeblahEleanor: You should only fsck on unmounted drives05:02
blahdeblahThat especially applies to vfat devices05:03
EleanorYes, that is what I thought - I have stopped it. Fsck couldn't find it when it was unmounted - the /dev entry is missing unless the drive is mounted.05:05
EleanorSomething screwy is going on.05:06
EleanorWhen the drive is mounted, I can create and delete files, but not read or write to them, according to Nautilus.05:09
skwashdblahdeblah: where is the fun in that? ;)05:15
blahdeblahskwashd: :-)05:16
blahdeblahEleanor: When you say "mounted", do you mean "plugged into your PC"?05:16
blahdeblahEleanor: Regardless, try this:05:17
blahdeblah1. eject the drive, unplug it, and reinsert it05:17
blahdeblah2. open a terminal window and type "sudo mount"05:17
blahdeblah3. pastebin the results: http://ubuntu-au.pastebin.com/05:18
blahdeblahskwashd: BTW, do you still have any of those stickers left?  I've got a new laptop and the only stickers i had left were a bit small.05:19
skwashdblahdeblah: the ubuntu ones i posted on list? nah ... sent them all out quite some time ago05:20
blahdeblahSo no spares?05:20
skwashdblahdeblah: sorry ... you might want to see if there is interest on the list for another order05:27
blahdeblahskwashd: no worries05:29
skwashdblahdeblah: if you find 5 people you will save a lot05:29
Eleanorblahdeblah: Shouldn't there be a "Paste" button on the pastebin page? I don't see one ...05:30
blahdeblahskwashd: How so?  Cheaper postage?05:30
blahdeblahEleanor: "Submit"05:30
blahdeblahEleanor: you might have to scroll down05:30
skwashdblahdeblah: yeah ... it is like 10AUD for the first one inc postage and <1AUD per sticker sheet inc postage after that05:31
blahdeblahskwashd: OK, i might post on the list and see what interest there is05:31
skwashdso for 5 you're looking at 3AUD per sheet instead of 10 ... and i ordered 12 sheets iirc ... and it cost me ~2AUD per sheet05:32
EleanorThis Gnome Browser is weird - I wish I could change distros - no Submit button either. However, the drive seems to be working after the re-plugging thing, thanks. Wonder how it'll go after the next, inevitable, restart.05:33
blahdeblahEleanor: do you use noscript or something like that?  You might need javascript turned on to get the submit button.  I would recommend Firefox or Opera if you want to be sure it works well.05:35
Eleanorblahdeblah: It has java turned on, default set-up, it just doen't work properly. Opera is not in the repositories, apparently, because it uses non-free components. Ditto Firefox, which I don't care for anyway.05:37
blahdeblahEleanor: javaSCRIPT, not JAVA05:38
blahdeblahEleanor: Firefox is most certainly in the repositories05:38
EleanorSorry - javaSCRIPT05:38
blahdeblahEleanor: you can add opera using this repository: "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free"05:39
Eleanorblahdebalh: I was under the impression that adding non-free softare will irreparably break my system. I waa told that installing Opera was what made gNewSense inoperable before my last re-install.05:42
blahdeblahEleanor: this is #ubuntu-au, not #gnewsense-au... ;-)05:48
darkrosesomeone's been feeding you <expletive deleted>05:48
EleanorI suspected as much!05:49
EleanorRight - Opera here I come ...05:49
blahdeblahEleanor: I have to agree with darkrose - the idea that installing a proprietary package can break your system is at best nonsense, and at worst, a reason for switching to vanilla Ubuntu.05:49
EleanorSince the initial Ubuntu (8.04 Hardy) install, my DVD-RAM has been able to read cds and dvds fine, but will not write to anything, thus the iso files of other distros are now sitting in a folder and I can't produce the cds05:51
blahdeblahDouble-check that you have permission to do that in System > Administration > Users and Groups05:53
blahdeblahThere's a permission called "Use CD-ROM drives" in the Advanced settings for each user.05:55
EleanorPermission I have, but Brasero says "the medium is not writeable with the current set of plugins" and apparently this means I do not have the correct hardware driver for my drive.05:56
blahdeblahwhat does ls -l /dev/cdrom (or whatever the name of your drive is) say?06:05
blahdeblahand what is the output of id?06:05
blahdeblahI'll be offline for a while - converting my physical server to a virtual machine.06:10
blahdeblahGood luck Eleanor06:10
Eleanor/dev/cdrom = lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2010-11-21 15:42 /dev/cdrom -> scd006:12
Eleanoruser@server:~$ id06:12
Eleanoruid=1000(user) gid=1000(user) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(fuse),112(lpadmin),123(admin),1000(user)06:12
EleanorNever met id before - always happy to learn about something new, thank you.06:13
dns53it tells you what groups you are in, you are in the group cdrom group so that should be fine06:17
Eleanordns53: I'm pretty sure the cdrom issue is about kernel modules and not permissions. I am going to try to get the hang of modules.dep ... I think it may be where much of my trouble lies.06:25
skwashdblahdeblah if you don't know what the proprietary binaries will do they can trash your box10:30
skwashdbut then i've had FOSS kill boxes too10:30
=== quail_linux is now known as quail
head_victimblahdeblah: I might have a spare sticker sheet if you don't get enough for an order. I'd have to double check but I'm almost certain of it.20:12

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!