[00:12] <igor_> hi everyone
[00:12] <igor_> I'm new to ubuntu and I'm having an issue, would this be the right place to seek support?
[00:21] <pedro3005> absolutely igor_
[00:30] <igor_> I'm sorry i didnt respond sooner, I've asked around in #ubuntu channel, thanks!
[00:49] <aluex> help..
[00:50] <aluex> i don't know why i cannot see grub screen while starting.
[00:57] <aluex> anyone is free now?
[01:06] <zkriesse_> Arh
[01:23] <Solovei> Uh. I have a stupid question about GNOME.
[01:23] <Solovei> I somehow got rid of the wireless indicator icon and now I don't know how to get it back.
[01:24] <AndrewMC> Solovei: right click > Add to pannel
[01:25] <AndrewMC> on the panel itsself
[01:25] <AndrewMC> then rightclick the indicator > Move to move it around
[01:27] <Solovei> It's not there though.
[01:27] <Solovei> I removed it by accident and I can't add it again for some reason.
[01:27] <Solovei> the one that's next to the sound icon and the messages.
[01:29] <AndrewMC> yep
[01:29] <AndrewMC> i think its called indicator applet
[01:31] <AndrewMC> Solovei: if you have no luck with that ^ take a look here: http://j.mp/alVMGT
[01:32] <Solovei> Thanks a lot.
[01:32] <Solovei> :)
[02:18] <hakimsheriff> Do I need an antivirus or internet security software?
[02:36] <brennydoogles> Hello all!
[02:41] <aveilleux> hello brennydoogles
[02:42] <cprofitt> hello
[02:44] <brennydoogles> How's life?
[03:06] <brennydoogles> So anyone feeling brave?
[03:06] <aveilleux_> !ask | brennydoogles
[03:06] <ubot2> brennydoogles: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[03:33] <zkriesse_> Ugh
[04:22] <paultag> aveilleux_, brennydoogles is an old UBT member
[04:22] <paultag> aveilleux_, :)
[04:23] <aveilleux_> paultag: Ah
[04:24] <paultag> :)
[04:32] <hxcjonnysniper> does anyone know how i can put my music files on a partition drive?
[04:32] <aveilleux_> hxcjonnysniper: I think you're confused on terminology. You mean a different partition on the same drive?
[04:33] <hxcjonnysniper> aveilleux: yeah. thats what i meant. =p
[04:46] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, just create a separate partition and mount it where you want to have the music files
[04:49] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: http://img815.imageshack.us/f/screenshotas.png/
[04:49] <hxcjonnysniper> thats what my partitions are.
[04:49] <hxcjonnysniper> how do i do this. sorry im such a n00b. =p
[04:53] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, first of all, why do you want all the music in a separate partition but in the same drive? I fail to see a reason to do it
[04:55] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: because i have been having random problems with ubuntu to where i had to reinstall ubuntu. before i had to reinstall it this time i lost 90 gigs of music. i was told to make a partition for files i need in case it happens again.
[04:55] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, also, by looking at your partitions, they are a mess. There's loads of unallocated space
[04:56] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, but you already have one. It's mounted in /data
[04:57] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: yeah. i know that but how do i put my music on that partition?
[04:58] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, on Nautilus, click on filesystem on the side
[04:58] <carandraug> there's a folder called data. It's that one
[05:00] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: wowwwwwww. i feel stupid. lol. i opened that up earlier too. lol. thank you. hahah.
[05:00] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, however, I think you may have missunderstood the advice. You gave 11Gb to the root (inclusive your home directory) and 100Gb to a directory /data. I think what you wanted to do was to have all your home directory on that partition
[05:01] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: yeah i think so. =/ sadly enough i followed a youtube instruction video to do it. lol.
[05:01] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, as you have now, all your system, all your programs, everything, your documents, desktop, videos, etc will be on the small 11Gb
[05:02] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, this is very easy to do at install time. Is this a fresh install of Ubuntu?
[05:02] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: wow.  i installed it yesterday. and downloaded just a few programs. but thats it.
[05:03] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: is there anyway to change the size of that partition?
[05:04] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, yes there is. But if you haven't made many changes it's easier to just install it again and do it properly from start up
[05:04] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, which Ubuntu version are you using?
[05:04] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug:10.04 right now.
[05:05] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, would you be interested on installing it fresh? I could give you proper instructions on to do it on 10.04
[05:07] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: can you just tell me how to change the size of that partition to something normal? lol. i hate reinstalling this thing.
[05:07] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, also, just for curiosity, is there as reason to not use 10.10?
[05:08] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: yeah idk. 10.10 seemed like it had bugs or something. my wine was all messed up and my openGL stopped working and just a bunch of problems.
[05:09] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, you'd have to boot from a LiveCD. Move your home directory to the 100Gb partition and make sure you keep the right permissions. Then you'd have to edit manually /etc/fstab
[05:10] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, that's the file that says where to mount each partition. You'd change it so it mounts in /home
[05:11] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, if you are, as you said before, a noob, reinstall would be quicker and safer
[05:12] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: right. dangggg. i can't do this in gparted?
[05:14] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, I don't think so, no. I don't have it installed to check and it's been some time since I used it but I'm fairly confident that no. Gparted is to set partitions, here you have to move files around and configure the way the system uses them
[05:15] <hxcjonnysniper> carandraug: okay so when i drag a file into the /data folder it says i don't have permission. =/
[05:16] <hxcjonnysniper> Error opening file '/data/Menahan Street Band - Make the Road by Walking [2008].rar': Permission denied
[05:17] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, then you don't, you'll need to change them. If you had moved your home directory there without setting the right permissions your Ubuntu would have never started
[05:18] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, it's easy to change the permissions, you just need to decide which permissions you want to give to the files there
[05:18] <Cheri703> hxcjonnysniper: I'm going to toss a vote in for reinstalling
[05:19] <Cheri703> once it's set up properly, it makes life much easier/smoother to get it set up
[05:19] <hxcjonnysniper> dang. =[ well imma need help guise. =p
[05:19] <Cheri703> do you have another computer from which to access irc while you're doing your install?
[05:20] <hxcjonnysniper> i have another computer but it has windows on it. is there anyway to access irc on there?
[05:21] <Cheri703> yeah, easiest way is through http://webchat.freenode.net/
[05:21] <Cheri703> that way you don't have to download/install anything new
[05:21] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, do you need help to take files from /data? I have another computer next to me  where I just booted from 10.04 and on the install menu so I can give visual aid
[05:23] <hxcjonnysniper> alright imma download it on that one.
[05:23] <Cheri703> download what?
[05:24] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, just so we can decide on the amount of swap when setting the partitions, do you know how much memory you have on your computer?
[05:24] <hxcjonnysniper> 120 gigs? i think.
[05:25] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, sorry, I meant to ask for memory (RAM), not Hard Drive space
[05:27] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, if you run the command "free -m" on a terminal, it's the top left number
[05:27] <hxcjonnysniper> 994?
[05:27] <hxcjonnysniper> does that sound right?
[05:28] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, sounds right. 994Mb or 1Gb
[05:29] <hxcjonnysniper_> okay are yous getting this im on my other laptop.
[05:29] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, good. Have you saved all the files you had on the computer for the reinstall?
[05:30] <hxcjonnysniper> i had none. lol.
[05:31] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, I thought you said you had problems accessing the files inside /data . They'll be removed too
[05:32] <hxcjonnysniper> nah i had problems putting in files to the /data folder.
[05:35] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper, oh, ok. Then boot from the live CD and tell us when you start installing
[05:37] <hxcjonnysniper_> okay its pulling the cd up in boot right now. ill tell you when the install screen is up.
[05:38] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, good. I'm still here. But mention my nick so that I get a warning
[05:39] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: now by doing this will i be able to reinstall ubuntu without losing my music?
[05:39] <Cheri703> same here hxcjonnysniper_, I'm around, just nursing a crappy headache, but I can help too :)
[05:39] <Cheri703> where is your music currently hxcjonnysniper_ ?
[05:39] <hxcjonnysniper_> Cheri703: k thank yo. =^-^=
[05:40] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, yes. In the future you'll be able to reimstall it without losing any of your data and configuration files
[05:41] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703: okay i chose my time zone and keyboard layout now im at the partitioning part.
[05:42] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, chhose manual
[05:42] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703: okay did that.
[05:43] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, now, select one of the partitions and click on the button delete
[05:44] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703:k. i deleted them all.
[05:44] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, then repeat for all the partitions until you're left with /dev/sda on the first line and "free space" on the second
[05:45] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, ok. Then now select free space and click on "add..."
[05:45] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703:yep.
[05:46] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, choose primary for type
[05:47] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, for size choose 19 000, for location choose beginning
[05:47] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, use as "Ext4 journaling filesystem", and for mount point select "/"
[05:48] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703:k.
[05:48] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, now, select free space and click "Add..." again. This time we'll set up the swap
[05:49] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703:yep.
[05:50] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, select primary type, 1 300 for size (this should allow you to hibernate with no problems of space), "beginning" for location and "swap" for use as:
[05:50] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703:uh huh.
[05:52] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, and now the last partition. Select free space and click "Add..". Choose primary type, for space leave as it is (you'll want all the space), the location is beginning", use as:"ext4 journaling filesystem" and mount point: "/home"
[05:52] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703:now click forward?
[05:53] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, just to check first, how do your partitions look like?
[05:53] <carandraug> you should have 3, /dev/sda1 2 and 3. The table would look something like this:
[05:54] <carandraug> /dev/sda1   ext4   /          19000 MB
[05:54] <carandraug> /dev/sda2    swap                            1300MB
[05:54] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703: /dev/sda1 ext 18999, /dev/sda2 swap 1300, /dev/sda3 ext4 /home 99733
[05:55] <carandraug> /dev/sda3    ext4    /home                   big number around 99000MB
[05:55] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, looks right to me
[05:55] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, click forward now
[05:56] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, basically all you system stuff will be kept in /dev/sda1 and your user stuff, your configuratios, files, documents etc will be kept in /dev/sda3
[05:57] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703:okay its installing now. is there anything in particular i have to do in order to access sda3?
[05:58] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, nothing at all. You won't even fell that it's a separate partition because it's mounted in /home, where your user stuff is located
[05:58] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, when you go to Places > Home, you're opening sda3 and because you did it during install, the permission will all be set correctly
[05:59] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, if you need to install Ubuntu again, make sure you go through this menu and choose /dev/sda1 for root and /dev/sda3 for /home and untick the format box on /dev/sda3. Having the system configured this way even allows you to have 2 Linux installed on the same computer, both sharing the same documents
[05:59] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703:riiioght.thanks man. this will hopefully be what i needed. so what if i stored my music in the music folder. thats part of that partition?
[06:01] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, yes. your music partition is actually /home/yourUsername/Music . since it's under /home it's on /dev/sda3
[06:02] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703:alright. sweet deal.=]
[06:03] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, well, if you don't have any other doubt, I'll leave. It's 6:00am here
[06:06] <hxcjonnysniper_> carandraug: Cheri703: dang. thank you very much. =]
[06:08] <carandraug> hxcjonnysniper_, no problem. Glad to be of help. Go to #ubuntu, help someone and enjoy your Ubuntu
[06:51] <Forer> so it seems grub had issues with my computer, it did a prompt "hey we're going to install grub" and I clicked next, realized "oh wait I have it" and it said I couldn't go back after that so I finished, Now it seems I'm getting an error "Error: no such device: f81f7c76-a4c2-45bd-bc75-ae8f77b4b8eb. grub rescue>" prompt
[06:51] <Forer> and I used the wubi and have no live cd
[06:59] <bioterror> I suggest to contact a friend and make a ivecd ;)
[07:05] <Forer> I had a vista disk lying around
[07:05] <Forer> booted recovery mode from there
[07:05] <Forer> bootrec.exe /fixboot
[07:05] <Forer> bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[07:05] <Forer> restarted and problem solved
[07:08] <forer> so is there any good guides as to what linux compiling entails? I've seen some where it's "do this long convoluted process" and others where it's "run this file" and others where it's "type make and then make install"
[09:09] <UndiFineD> good morning
[09:16] <devaj> Hi, I would like to know whether the kernel available here : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.36-maverick/  are already patched
[09:16] <devaj> I would be grateful if someone could lend a helping hand
[13:10] <earthling_> anyone know what "user folders update" is for?
[13:41] <ggeorgy> hi !
[13:41] <ggeorgy> can help me to install a -.bin file please? thanks
[13:42] <ggeorgy> ???
[13:44] <ggeorgy> can help me somebody?
[13:44] <ggeorgy> please
[14:00] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[14:01] <kosaidpo> anynoe have a fix to turn the panel tranparent in lubuntu i read on the web that its caused of pcmanfm but i found no fix thanks
[14:02] <zkriesse_> Oh I hate that
[14:02] <zkriesse_> They ask their question twenty times in a row, don't get I two second response so they leave
[14:03] <kosaidpo> zkriesse_: im stil here : ]
[14:06] <nlsthzn> kosaidpo: think he meant ggeorgy :)
[14:07] <zkriesse_> Yes
[14:07] <zkriesse_> Hmm panel transparent
[14:07] <zkriesse_> No response in #lubuntu on this?
[14:08] <kosaidpo> nlsthzn: cool
[14:08] <kosaidpo> zkriesse_: yes im there but noe seem to respond :P
[14:08] <zkriesse_> Lola
[14:09] <zkriesse_> Welcome to you nlsthzn
[14:09] <zkriesse_> kosaidpo: Well give it a few minutes
[14:09] <zkriesse_> I don't use lubuntu myself so
[14:09] <nlsthzn> hi :)
[14:09] <zkriesse_> I mean is there no option when you opposite click on the panel to change the settings?
[14:10] <kosaidpo> zkriesse_: sure,no theres but i read that the issue come from pcmanfm
[14:10] <kosaidpo> zkriesse_: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1651
[14:11] <kosaidpo> zkriesse_: i tried to transparent my terminal too but it doesnt work
[14:14] <zkriesse_> Hmmm
[14:15] <switchgirl> anyone got instructions for installing a wall mounted cat5 and telephone acsess point? [im in the united kingdom]
[14:25] <zkriesse_> switchgirl: Uh don't ask your question in multiple channels one right after the other like that please
[14:28] <switchgirl> (14:08:38) in ##electronics - no one answered so i asked in  (14:10:29)
[14:29] <zkriesse_> hobgoblin: !!!!
[14:29] <hobgoblin> o/
[14:30]  * zkriesse_ hugs hobgoblin 
[14:32] <hobgoblin> hi zkriesse_
[14:36] <karthick87> hiyas hobgoblin
[14:36] <hobgoblin> o/
[14:38] <zkriesse_> Back
[14:40] <Cheri703> also switchgirl, try google? I'd think there'd be a tutorial of some sort online
[14:40] <Cheri703> and under 2 minutes isn't particularly slow for irc
[14:56] <karthick87> coolbhavi: hi
[14:56] <coolbhavi> heya karthick87
[14:56] <karthick87> coolbhavi: how's you
[15:00] <coolbhavi> karthick87, m fine mate
[15:10] <genupulas> coolbhavi:  bss
[15:11] <coolbhavi> genupulas, hey lets move the talk to -team channel
[15:11] <karthick87> genupulas: how's you?
[15:11] <genupulas> karthick87:  good fine and u  man?
[15:11] <genupulas> coolbhavi:  team?
[15:12] <coolbhavi> #ubuntu-beginners-team I meant
[15:14] <genupulas> coolbhavi: yes boss
[15:25] <mikeycooper> while installing 10.10, i didn't check the "encrypt home directory" option.  is there some easy way to do whatever that option would do now that i'm up and running or do i have to reinstall?
[16:12] <ehcah> Does anyone know if the casual home user serving up Movies from Server Storage and played locally by dedicated HTPC's, would notice any speed/performance difference between Linux generic Raid6 / Samba versus ZFS?
[16:35] <davidjr621> i didnt make my partition for ubuntu big enough, is it possible to make it bigger without completly reinstalling it?
[16:36] <ivanbg> you can resize it using some partition manager
[16:37] <davidjr621> where can i get one?
[16:38] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: is this a real install or an install inside windows one?
[16:38] <davidjr621> dual boot
[16:38] <hobgoblin> there's a partition editor on the livecd you installed with in the sys admin menu
[16:39] <hobgoblin> if you have a swap and it and root are in an extended you will need to right click the swap and turn it off
[16:40] <davidjr621> whats it called?
[16:40] <hobgoblin> partition editor I think - or it might be gparted
[16:40] <hobgoblin> one of the two
[16:41] <davidjr621> is it in the Ubuntu software center by chance?
[16:43] <hobgoblin> well it is - but if you install it in your running system you won't be able to resize it as / needs to be unmounted
[16:43] <hobgoblin> so you need to run from a livecd or something - you don't have to use a buntu livecd as you can get partition editors as iso's for burning
[16:45] <davidjr621> ok, so i used a USB to install it
[16:45] <davidjr621> what do i have to do to edit the partitions?
[16:46] <davidjr621> will it require rebooting?
[16:48] <davidjr621> ive only had ubuntu since yesterday and i have used 11/20gb
[16:48] <davidjr621> so i really need more space :/
[16:48] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: hang on I'll get you a couple of useful links
[16:49] <davidjr621> thanks
[16:49] <hobgoblin> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-resizing-partitions-1/index.html
[16:49] <hobgoblin> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-resizing-partitions-2/index.html
[16:49] <hobgoblin> but a search in google will provide a plethora
[16:53] <IdleOne> !gparted
[16:53] <ubot2> gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[16:53] <davidjr621> so from my understanding, i will boot into the liveusb like i would be testing the OS, then DL gparted, and resize?
[16:54] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: no - it should already be there in the liveusb you installed with :)
[16:54] <aveilleux> davidjr621: No, you would download a LiveCD with GParted already installed, then resize using it.
[16:54] <IdleOne> davidjr621: boot with the usb install you have and chose Try Ubuntu, it should have gparted installed already if not you can install it in the live cd from the software center
[16:55] <davidjr621> woah, different answers, lol
[16:55] <hobgoblin> 3 of us can't be wrong :d well we could - but we aren't ...
[16:55] <davidjr621> ait
[16:55] <davidjr621> wait*
[16:55] <IdleOne> davidjr621: we are all basically telling you the same thing but in different ways :)
[16:55] <davidjr621> oh ok, lol
[16:55] <IdleOne> davidjr621: you already have the usb ready, no need to burn a cd.
[16:55] <hobgoblin> boot the usb and it will be there - as if by magic
[16:59] <ivanbg> And a question from me: I'm trying to install Xubuntu on a 256MB RAM DELL machine, but the LiveCD booting process i slow as hell - something like taking 15 minutes to boot. And when its done i'm trying typing in console apt-get or other correct commands the reply is command not recognised. Is this a hardware problem or other issue - ACPI or something else?
[17:00] <IdleOne> ivanbg: exact command you are typing?
[17:00] <ivanbg> sudo apt-get -y install x11vnc
[17:01] <ivanbg> it is working flawlessly at my other machine
[17:01] <IdleOne> hmm that should work
[17:02] <IdleOne> reason it is slow to boot is not a lot of ram, system should run faster when installed.
[17:03] <ivanbg> well slow booting is now such an issue, OS not responding as expected is the real one
[17:05] <ivanbg> will some kernel boot options make some difference?
[17:38] <geekosopher> how do I activate typing in my local language on kubuntu maverick?
[18:09] <yofel> geekosopher: system settings -> input devices -> keyboard -> layouts
[18:09] <Jazzinghen> Hi
[18:10] <geekosopher> yofel: it does not have the language I want (gujarati)... though I installed all the langauge packs and language input support packages
[18:12] <Jazzinghen> I've got some problems with my ATI card
[18:12] <yofel> geekosopher: could be that it's missing, not sure, either use another similiar layout or ask in #kubuntu or #kde if nobody else has a tip
[18:13] <aveilleux> Jazzinghen: What problems?
[18:13] <Jazzinghen> I'm using Ubuntu 10.10 64-bit and I have an ATI Mobility Radeon HD5650
[18:13] <Jazzinghen> Hem
[18:13] <geekosopher> yofel: doing that :) thanks!
[18:13] <Jazzinghen> I'm using the fglrx proprietary drivers
[18:14] <Jazzinghen> But I'm experiencing video tearing when watching videos (expecially h264 ones)
[18:14] <Jazzinghen> My fans keep on working
[18:15] <Jazzinghen> And colour gradients are not smooth
[18:15] <Jazzinghen> They are a sum of various concentric areas
[18:15] <Jazzinghen> I had this problem with Ubuntu 9.10 but was resolved in 10.04
[18:15] <Jazzinghen> Now this problem came back
[18:20] <FireBeard> thanks for all the tips
[18:26] <Jazzinghen> \join #ubuntu
[18:27] <geekosopher> Jazzinghen: its forward slash (/)
[18:29] <Jazzinghen> Thanks
[18:30] <Jazzinghen> I think I'm writing too much with LaTeX
[18:30] <Jazzinghen> However can anyone help me with this problem?
[18:33] <geekosopher> Jazzinghen: i am sure you must have already gone through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[18:34] <Jazzinghen> I'm using 10.10
[18:34] <Jazzinghen> These cover 9.10 and lower
[18:36] <aveilleux> Jazzinghen: The instructions haven't changed
[18:36] <geekosopher> Jazzinghen: hmmm... looks like that, can't say since I never needed this stuff. Just a regular on-board graphics guy :)
[18:38] <Jazzinghen> But with 10.04 everyting worked fine.
[18:38] <Jazzinghen> However, I'll try it
[18:39] <Jazzinghen> Hm. I've installed the drivers with the "Additional Drivers Manager"
[19:10] <MrAnthrope> Is there a keyboard shortcut to bring up the System Monitor?
[19:11] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Not by default, but you can make one.
[19:11] <MrAnthrope> How so?
[19:12] <MrAnthrope> And what's a good keymap for it? Isn't CTRL+ALT+DEL already mapped in Ubuntu?
[19:12] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: System > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[19:12] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: It is, but you can remap that.
[19:12] <MrAnthrope> heh
[19:13] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Just find the shortcut that has Ctrl+Alt+Del (it's something like shutdown? idunno) and set that to undefined
[19:15] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Then make Ctrl+Alt+Del open up gnome-system-monitor
[19:17] <MrAnthrope> What do I need to type in the command line?
[19:18] <MrAnthrope> Error while trying to run (run gnome-system-monitor) which is linked to the key ( ....
[19:18] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Let me check, I thought that was it
[19:18] <MrAnthrope> Oh. I got it.
[19:18] <MrAnthrope> aveilleux It's just "gnome-system-monitor"
[19:19] <MrAnthrope> Thanks for the help. :)
[19:20] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Er, yeah, did I typo?
[19:21] <aveilleux> Oh okay
[19:21] <MrAnthrope> lol no I'm just stupid. :)
[19:22] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: Nah we all make mistakes
[19:25] <zkriesse_> Lol
[19:26] <zkriesse_> Ignorant is more appropriate not stupid
[19:26] <MrAnthrope> :)
[19:27] <zkriesse_> Ignorance is lack of knowledge, stupidity is having the knowledge but doing "it" anyway...usually to devastating consequences
[19:27] <MrAnthrope> hahaha.
[19:27] <MrAnthrope> You're too kind.
[19:27] <zkriesse_> Lol
[19:27] <zkriesse_> Just being brutally honest as my recruiter would say
[19:28] <MrAnthrope> Heh that's a good thing.
[19:28] <MrAnthrope> While I have some attention in this room... I have another question.
[19:28] <zkriesse_> Try to be
[19:28] <zkriesse_> Not saying I don't lie
[19:28] <zkriesse_> Sure ask away my friend
[19:29] <MrAnthrope> I installed an icon theme which I'm very happy with except it has changed the Ubuntu icon in the upper left hand corner (applications) and I want it back. I have a 24x24 .png file I'm trying to use but it's not working.
[19:29] <suprengr> MrAnthrope: zkriesse_ definition of "expert":  e='expert', x=unknown quantity, 'spert (as in spurt)=a drip under pressure
[19:29] <MrAnthrope> I open the configuration editor and I go to apps, panel, objects, Menu_bar_screen
[19:30] <MrAnthrope> I click use custom icon, and then under custom_icon I put home/geo/Icons/ubuntu.png
[19:30] <MrAnthrope> I restarted and still nothing.
[19:30] <MrAnthrope> is the theme overriding this somehow?
[19:33] <MrAnthrope> menu_bar_screen0
[19:34] <MrAnthrope> s/Menu_bar_screen/menu_bar_screen0
[19:34] <MrAnthrope> :)
[19:35] <zkriesse_> Ah no idea
[19:35] <zkriesse_> That's a bit of coding which I don't do
[19:36] <zkriesse_> And I'm on my iPod so I can't research it ATM
[19:37] <MrAnthrope> hahaha.
[19:38] <MrAnthrope> I'm wondering if I should be trying to replace the icon in the icon theme pack, but I don't know how to do that.
[19:38] <MrAnthrope> And it seems when I uninstall themes they don't uninstall correctly and I can't reinstall them because they're still partially installed.
[19:38] <MrAnthrope> Is this something for #Ubuntu perhaps?
[19:39] <zkriesse_> Maybe
[19:39] <zkriesse_> Not sure
[19:39] <MrAnthrope> I just noticed that my Terminal is transparent... wth.
[19:40] <MrAnthrope> No... not transparent...
[19:42] <aveilleux> Translucent?
[19:42] <MrAnthrope> http://goo.gl/DD1NS
[19:42] <aveilleux> Translucent, yes
[19:42] <MrAnthrope> Check that out, it redraws the object on the desktop but not my icons.
[19:43] <MrAnthrope> How do I turn that off?
[19:44] <aveilleux> Should be in the preferences
[19:45] <zkriesse_> XChat FTW!!!!!!
[19:45] <MrAnthrope> lol
[19:45] <MrAnthrope> I miss Trillian Astra.
[19:46] <zkriesse_> ?
[19:46] <MrAnthrope> Windows IM client.
[19:46] <MrAnthrope> IRC is a bit sketchy on it but everything else is really nice.
[19:46] <aveilleux> I never liked Trillian
[19:46] <MrAnthrope> Empathy IM is horrible.
[19:46] <aveilleux> use Pidgin
[19:46] <MrAnthrope> Pidgin is worse.
[19:46]  * MrAnthrope blanches.
[19:47] <MrAnthrope> Trillian Astra is loads better than Trillian Pro, if that's what you're thinking of.
[19:48] <MrAnthrope> Pro was quite buggy.
[19:48] <MrAnthrope> I see window transparency but not window translucency.
[19:49] <aveilleux> Partial transparency is translucensy.
[19:49] <aveilleux> translucency*
[19:50] <aveilleux> Pidgin is fantastic!
[19:50] <aveilleux> What's wrong with Pidgin?
[19:50] <MrAnthrope> http://goo.gl/FSSOY
[19:51] <MrAnthrope> I have transparency off.
[19:51] <kosaidpo> MrAnthrope: im using pidign its pretty cool tho
[19:51] <aveilleux> Quit and restart gnome-terminal
[19:51] <MrAnthrope> And now it's gone...
[19:52] <MrAnthrope> lol. That was weird. w/e
[19:52] <MrAnthrope> Is there a way to open something (like gconf-editor) without also having to have the terminal window open?
[19:53] <kosaidpo> alt+f2
[19:53] <kosaidpo> MrAnthrope: i guess thats wht you want
[19:53] <MrAnthrope> yes yes yes :)
[19:53] <MrAnthrope> Can I make an icon for this?
[19:55] <MrAnthrope> Nevermind. Found it.
[19:55] <aveilleux> MrAnthrope: You can add Launchers to the panel
[19:56] <MrAnthrope> There's a Run Application icon in 'Add to Panel' :)
[20:14] <harrisonk> anyone here good with incripted WMA files?
[20:14] <aveilleux> encrypted?
[20:14] <aveilleux> Yes, don't use them.
[20:14] <MrAnthrope> Heh.
[20:14] <harrisonk> I know
[20:15] <harrisonk> THe national public library system uses them
[20:15] <harrisonk> *The
[20:15] <harrisonk> *of the US
[20:15] <MrAnthrope> Does WinFF convert encrypted.wma files?
[20:16] <harrisonk> WinFF?
[20:16] <MrAnthrope> Conversion program.
[20:16] <aveilleux> They have DRM?
[20:16] <MrAnthrope> Hold on.
[20:16] <harrisonk> ahh
[20:16] <MrAnthrope> I'll see if it does.
[20:16] <aveilleux> I think VLC Media Player uses DRM
[20:16] <aveilleux> er
[20:16] <aveilleux> can handle DRM*
[20:16] <harrisonk> Tried VLC and it didn't work
[20:17] <aveilleux> But as far as I know, DRM'd wma files are basically useless on anything that's not Windows Media Player
[20:17] <harrisonk> okay
[20:17] <harrisonk> Time to get Vbox running
[20:19] <MrAnthrope> Hmm it says unknown encoder...
[20:22] <harrisonk> thanks
[21:21] <davidjr621> I need to make my ubuntu partition bigger
[21:21] <davidjr621> I'm booted on my liveusb
[21:21] <davidjr621> And have gparted open
[21:21] <davidjr621> What do I need to do?
[21:22] <hobgoblin> hi there
[21:22] <hobgoblin> first - are there any padlocks showing the gparted window?
[21:22] <davidjr621> <-- noob
[21:22] <hobgoblin> yes - I know :)
[21:23] <davidjr621> What do you mean padlocks in the gparted window
[21:23] <hobgoblin> can you see anything that looks like padlocks against any of the partitions
[21:23] <davidjr621> As far as I see, no
[21:24] <icejoe> what are you trying to do?
[21:24] <davidjr621> Make my ubuntu partition bigger
[21:24] <davidjr621> Its only 20gb and want atleast 50
[21:25] <icejoe> and you're trying to do it within ubuntu?
[21:25] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: ok - cool - hit the printscreen button on the keyboard - do a screenshot and then upload it to http://imagebin.org
[21:25] <davidjr621> I'm on the liveusb I made
[21:25] <icejoe> got it
[21:25] <hobgoblin> then we can see what we need to do  - as it stands we know what the end result is - but not what we have to work with :)
[21:25] <icejoe> lets see what it looks like
[21:26] <hobgoblin> I would suspect without seeing that you have an extended partition - we'll need to expand that first
[21:26] <davidjr621> http://imagebin.org/124275
[21:27] <davidjr621> Any ideas?
[21:28] <hobgoblin> key instead of padlock lol
[21:28] <hobgoblin> right click on sda6 - swapoff
[21:28] <davidjr621> Is that good or bad? Lol
[21:28] <hobgoblin> means we can;t do anything yet - do ^^
[21:29] <davidjr621> I swapoff'ed
[21:29] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: do you have backups of data you can't lose
[21:29] <davidjr621> There isn't anything I need, no
[21:30] <davidjr621> Why?
[21:30] <hobgoblin> ok - now this might take some time - I assume fi you have a laptop it is plugged into the ac
[21:30] <davidjr621> Yup
[21:31] <hobgoblin> you are playing about with partitions - possibility of issues - rare - but I've aasked if you have backups - so it's your call :D
[21:32] <hobgoblin> ok - so first thing you must do is shrink the ntfs partition - sda2 - by however much you want to increase the linux one by
[21:32] <davidjr621> I don't have backups, but I don't need anything since I don't have anything
[21:32] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: I also mean in the ntfs windows partition
[21:33] <davidjr621> So if I shrink it 30 gigs, and my partitiion is already 20, ill have a 50 gig partition, correct?
[21:34] <hobgoblin> oh - quick thought here - what version of windows is this - if it is vista or w7 you might be better off doing the shrink in windows - there were some issues I think at one point, I'm not au fait with newer windows I am afraid
[21:34] <hobgoblin> yes - that is right
[21:34] <davidjr621> Win7
[21:34] <davidjr621> Alright, booting into windows
[21:34] <hobgoblin> mmmm - I'd do the shrink in there to be honest
[21:35] <hobgoblin> then boot the liveusb again
[21:35] <davidjr621> I'm in windows
[21:36] <davidjr621> Do you know where the winows partition manager is? Lol, never used it before
[21:37] <icejoe> just try searching for it
[21:37] <hobgoblin> I have absolutely no idea at all ... - try searching in the thingy for disk management
[21:38] <icejoe> what version of windows?
[21:38] <davidjr621> 7
[21:38] <icejoe> sorry just read that haha
[21:39] <pedro3005> what's the default gnome pdf reader?
[21:39] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: I'm actually off shortly - but basically you need to do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/535011/
[21:39] <hobgoblin> pedro3005: evince
[21:39] <pedro3005> thanks
[21:40] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: there will be people about who will knwo what you need to do
[21:40] <davidjr621> Alright, thanks for what you have done so far
[21:41] <hobgoblin> have you found the tool yet?
[21:41] <davidjr621> No
[21:41] <hobgoblin> it seems a lot more daunting than it actually is - once you start it is quite intuitive :)
[21:42] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: http://www.suite101.com/content/windows-7-disk-management-a185148
[21:43] <davidjr621> Found the tool
[21:44] <davidjr621> Windows won't let me shrink
[21:44] <icejoe> run as administrator?
[21:44] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: looking at the image you aren't going to be gaining much space - are you sure you really need it?
[21:44] <davidjr621> Probably since I can't shrink a windows partition while running windws?
[21:45] <icejoe> nah tha link says its possible.
[21:45] <icejoe> i believe so anyway
[21:45] <hobgoblin> should be possible - might be due to the space it would leave
[21:46]  * hobgoblin guesses at arcane windows possibilities ... 
[22:05] <hobgoblin> davidjr621: I hope all goes well - be logical, be methodical 0 it will work - don't ever assume gparted has crashed because it looks like it has stopped and good luck with it
[22:17] <davidjr621> I'm gonna have to do it in Ubuntu LiveUsb. Its not working in Windows.....
[22:20] <davidjr621> What's it mean operation pending?
[22:20] <davidjr621> How can I get it to do it?
[22:32] <davidjr621> How do I turn swap off in gparted?
[22:32] <davidjr621> Someone quick?
[22:34] <davidjr621> ?
[22:47] <UndiFineD> swapoff -a
[22:47] <vitali_> Hey guys. i have the problem, it is explained in this screenshot - http://habreffect.ru/files/666/2e497e303/screenshot1.png I run a script - nothing happens, i can't click a window, can't close it, can't even move it, it's like it's not even there. I figured out this is not a program specific as it happens with some other programs too. I posted a video incase it's difficult to understand my problem from a screenshot:
[22:47] <vitali_> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/585201/out.ogv I'd appreciate any help.
[22:47] <UndiFineD> prefer to do that with ALT+F2 : gksu  swapoff -a
[22:48] <UndiFineD> davidjr621,
[22:52] <vitali_> No ideas on how to fix my problem? No?
[22:53] <UndiFineD> vitali_, can you open up a shell ?
[22:59] <vitali_> What you mean, a terminal?
[23:01] <UndiFineD> yes
[23:01] <vitali_> Yes
[23:02] <UndiFineD> top can help a bit, perf(ormance) monitoring on 1 or multiple items can give more details, or debugging
[23:04] <vitali_> Not sure on how it can give more details, but here, take a look at screenshot - http://habreffect.ru/files/7ea/571adeb13/screenshot1.png
[23:07] <UndiFineD> hmm java, I think you can open up a jvm shell too
[23:07] <UndiFineD> and see wht break
[23:09] <vitali_> I figured out this is not a java specific, take a look at a video i posted above, same problem happens with plymouth-manager.
[23:09] <vitali_> And how do i open a jvm shell? :)
[23:16] <vitali_> Soo no ideas? :(
[23:16] <UndiFineD> vitali_, sorry I stay away from java :)
[23:16] <vitali_> :D I am pretty sure this is not java specific, not even geany specific.. did you watch a video?
[23:18] <UndiFineD> yes i did
[23:19] <vitali_> plymouth-manager as an example.. no java there..
[23:19] <UndiFineD> and the jvm will probably tell you it fails to produce the output
[23:22] <UndiFineD> did you check you geany messages tab while running ?
[23:23] <UndiFineD> vitali_,
[23:35] <vitali_> sorry, went afk, geany messagse tab is empty