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eagles0513875hey guys08:34
Atamirahey09:24
JoeMaverickSetthello, could someone tell me how to link help files from /usr/share/gnome/help/shotwell/ which has .page files in DocBook?09:28
eagles0513875woot updated the dovecot wiki with a nice warning09:37
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slacker_nlany wiki admin present?18:57
slacker_nlRocket2DMn: you are a wiki-admin is it not?18:57
geekosopherslacker_nl: any problems?18:58
slacker_nlgeekosopher: i would like a change to be reversed on a page I created/maintain18:58
geekosopherslacker_nl: I don't think you need a wiki admin to change your own page18:59
slacker_nlgeekosopher: i was not talking about a page about me19:00
slacker_nli was talking about a page created and maintained by me ;)19:00
slacker_nli cannot reverse to a previsious revision: Revision 18 as of 2010-10-18 23:08:3519:00
slacker_nlYou are not allowed to revert this page!19:00
geekosopheroh ok19:00
Rocket2DMnslacker_nl, yeah, what can i do for you19:09
slacker_nlRocket2DMn: great :)19:17
slacker_nlsomeone made some changes to a page I maintain and I would like to see them reversed: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades?action=diff&rev1=18&rev2=1919:17
Rocket2DMnsudo aptitude install dpkg apt aptitude ?19:24
Rocket2DMnslacker_nl, i don't see anything there that warrants reverting that user's changes19:26
slacker_nlok, then i'll change apt-get to aptitude manually :)19:27
zkriesse_OMG!!!!!! Rocket2DMn !!!!!!!!!!19:29
zkriesse_Rocket2DMn: MAN WHAT's UP?!?!?19:29
Rocket2DMnlol hi zkriesse_ , not much going on here atm19:29
zkriesse_slacker_nl: Are you the one who just sent an email regarding the upgrade page?19:30
slacker_nlyea19:30
zkriesse_Yeah I agree with Rocket2DMn there's nothing warranting a change19:31
zkriesse_If it was an edit done with malicious intent then yeah, it would need to fixed19:31
Rocket2DMnslacker_nl, i understand that everybody has their own approach to handling things, e.g. you appear to prefer aptitude over apt-get19:31
zkriesse_But since it wasn't there's really nothing to "fix"19:31
zkriesse_Rocket2DMn: Agreed19:31
Rocket2DMnhowever, the wiki is public, anybody can edit it, nobody really owns a page19:32
zkriesse_Yup19:32
Rocket2DMnwe do appreciate you maintaining it though19:32
Rocket2DMnslacker_nl, maybe you could contact the user to discuss it with them19:32
* zkriesse_ seconds Rocket2DMn's words19:32
zkriesse_slacker_nl: If you enjoy doing wiki/doc work you could look into joining the dice team19:33
slacker_nli already tried to contact him, but no dice19:33
zkriesse_Docs is a word iPod spell check!!!19:33
slacker_nlzkriesse_: i'm in lurking mode atm, since i'm doing a lot of personal stuff (like rebuilding my newly bought house)19:33
zkriesse_Ah ok understandable19:34
slacker_nlbut already subscribed to ubunutu-doc etc19:34
zkriesse_Real life takes extreme precedence over such a thing as this.19:34
slacker_nlit does :)19:34
zkriesse_And if you get really involved and like it apply to the major doc19:35
zkriesse_Team19:35
zkriesse_But that's me19:35
zkriesse_I really like wiki as Rocket2DMn can attest19:35
slacker_nli was looking into that, but then my life hit some weird reality, where everything went crazy19:35
slacker_nli know Rocket2DMn did something with one of my pages (SoD 2009)19:36
slacker_nlanyhows, i changed it back manually - thnx for the reply :)19:37
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KangaroooHello there! This channel people are documantation team and its editing wiki pages yes? what tool are u using for easyr wiki editing?21:19
Rocket2DMnKangarooo, most people just use the built in editor on the wiki21:23
Rocket2DMnthere is an applicaiton available in the repositories called editmoin (Moin being the wiki markup syntax used on the Ubuntu wikis)21:24
KangaroooRocket2DMn: yes but im allways forgeting fomating.. easyr would be clickiing title and bulletpoint and subtitle21:24
Kangarooowo thx Rocket2DMn21:24
Rocket2DMnIt allows you to edit in external editors, I've never used it though, I'm not sure if it's any good21:24
Rocket2DMnI'm not sure what there is for WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) editors that abstract you from the syntax21:25
Rocket2DMnKangarooo, you can always bookmark some pages so you can reference syntax if needed, check out the WikiGuide - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide21:25
KangaroooRocket2DMn: yes theres also a lot subpages ive read that 2 times when i needed to write a lot. thx. also i just got idea that a js needs to be made and put in wiki in way it can be activated with one click and it would show up until disbled. it should contain icons or descriptions of buttons and pushing them would put in editing place pressed syntaxes..21:28
Rocket2DMnI think I know what you mean, that would certainly be nice, a minimal in-place markup editor21:31
Rocket2DMnlike you get on the forums21:31
Rocket2DMnKangarooo, you are welcome to file a bug report against the ubuntu-docs package to that effect, as a wishlist item21:33
Kangarooomaybe LP project for that? couse that solution can be used for ubuntu wiki and for others also21:33
Rocket2DMnI'm not sure if Moin has any extensions like that already available21:33
Kangaroooyes., ill check it now.. also who can edit man pages? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/editmoin.1.html there i would like to put correct ubuntu wiki autentification line21:34
Rocket2DMnKangarooo, the manpages are exported to html format, i dont believe anybody can edit them in place21:36
Rocket2DMnyou would have to request that change from the editmoin package itself21:36
Rocket2DMnyou might be able to post a debdiff to be applied to future releases of that package, and the maintainer could apply it21:36
Rocket2DMnit would be an ubuntu customization to the upstream package21:36
Kangaroooaaah ok21:37
Kangarooook ill just send correct way to log in to wiki ubuntu to developer of editmoin. how was possible to see aptitude something dpkg info .. ? is that the same info thats in mapages? mapeges take that from package info yes?21:41
Rocket2DMnyeah Kangarooo , you should file a bug report against the editmoin package on LP21:45
Rocket2DMnKangarooo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/editmoin21:47
KangaroooRocket2DMn: i just found out wiki ubuntu should have gui edit.. becouse 1.6 moinmoin has it.. if in FF and javascript enabled but ive never seen that21:55
Kangarooocheck http://moinmo.in/WikiSandBox there it works but not for me on wiki ubuntu21:56
Kangaroooah.. 1.6 debian has removed the fck editor we bundled with moin21:56
Rocket2DMnKangarooo, it looks like both the ubuntu wikis are using MoinMoin 1.6.322:06
Kangaroooyes but something was removed from ubuntu wiki22:06
Kangarooosomekind this "1.6 debian has removed the fck editor we bundled with moin" thats what was told me22:07
Rocket2DMnyeah i see the gui editor, that looks nice22:07
Rocket2DMnKangarooo, why dont you file a bug against the ubuntu-docs package, and we can see if we can get that extension included22:08
Rocket2DMnubuntu-docs package is used for documentaiton related bugs, including the wiki22:08
Kangaroooyes ill do that22:08
Rocket2DMnhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs22:08
Rocket2DMnlooks like the upstream moin version is 1.9.3 (being used in moinmo.in)22:09

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