[08:34] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[09:24] <Atamira> hey
[09:28] <JoeMaverickSett> hello, could someone tell me how to link help files from /usr/share/gnome/help/shotwell/ which has .page files in DocBook?
[09:37] <eagles0513875> woot updated the dovecot wiki with a nice warning
[14:12]  * peppe84 is away: 
[18:57] <slacker_nl> any wiki admin present?
[18:57] <slacker_nl> Rocket2DMn: you are a wiki-admin is it not?
[18:58] <geekosopher> slacker_nl: any problems?
[18:58] <slacker_nl> geekosopher: i would like a change to be reversed on a page I created/maintain
[18:59] <geekosopher> slacker_nl: I don't think you need a wiki admin to change your own page
[19:00] <slacker_nl> geekosopher: i was not talking about a page about me
[19:00] <slacker_nl> i was talking about a page created and maintained by me ;)
[19:00] <slacker_nl> i cannot reverse to a previsious revision: Revision 18 as of 2010-10-18 23:08:35
[19:00] <slacker_nl> You are not allowed to revert this page!
[19:00] <geekosopher> oh ok
[19:09] <Rocket2DMn> slacker_nl, yeah, what can i do for you
[19:17] <slacker_nl> Rocket2DMn: great :)
[19:17] <slacker_nl> someone made some changes to a page I maintain and I would like to see them reversed: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades?action=diff&rev1=18&rev2=19
[19:24] <Rocket2DMn> sudo aptitude install dpkg apt aptitude ?
[19:26] <Rocket2DMn> slacker_nl, i don't see anything there that warrants reverting that user's changes
[19:27] <slacker_nl> ok, then i'll change apt-get to aptitude manually :)
[19:29] <zkriesse_> OMG!!!!!! Rocket2DMn !!!!!!!!!!
[19:29] <zkriesse_> Rocket2DMn: MAN WHAT's UP?!?!?
[19:29] <Rocket2DMn> lol hi zkriesse_ , not much going on here atm
[19:30] <zkriesse_> slacker_nl: Are you the one who just sent an email regarding the upgrade page?
[19:30] <slacker_nl> yea
[19:31] <zkriesse_> Yeah I agree with Rocket2DMn there's nothing warranting a change
[19:31] <zkriesse_> If it was an edit done with malicious intent then yeah, it would need to fixed
[19:31] <Rocket2DMn> slacker_nl, i understand that everybody has their own approach to handling things, e.g. you appear to prefer aptitude over apt-get
[19:31] <zkriesse_> But since it wasn't there's really nothing to "fix"
[19:31] <zkriesse_> Rocket2DMn: Agreed
[19:32] <Rocket2DMn> however, the wiki is public, anybody can edit it, nobody really owns a page
[19:32] <zkriesse_> Yup
[19:32] <Rocket2DMn> we do appreciate you maintaining it though
[19:32] <Rocket2DMn> slacker_nl, maybe you could contact the user to discuss it with them
[19:32]  * zkriesse_ seconds Rocket2DMn's words
[19:33] <zkriesse_> slacker_nl: If you enjoy doing wiki/doc work you could look into joining the dice team
[19:33] <slacker_nl> i already tried to contact him, but no dice
[19:33] <zkriesse_> Docs is a word iPod spell check!!!
[19:33] <slacker_nl> zkriesse_: i'm in lurking mode atm, since i'm doing a lot of personal stuff (like rebuilding my newly bought house)
[19:34] <zkriesse_> Ah ok understandable
[19:34] <slacker_nl> but already subscribed to ubunutu-doc etc
[19:34] <zkriesse_> Real life takes extreme precedence over such a thing as this.
[19:34] <slacker_nl> it does :)
[19:35] <zkriesse_> And if you get really involved and like it apply to the major doc
[19:35] <zkriesse_> Team
[19:35] <zkriesse_> But that's me
[19:35] <zkriesse_> I really like wiki as Rocket2DMn can attest
[19:35] <slacker_nl> i was looking into that, but then my life hit some weird reality, where everything went crazy
[19:36] <slacker_nl> i know Rocket2DMn did something with one of my pages (SoD 2009)
[19:37] <slacker_nl> anyhows, i changed it back manually - thnx for the reply :)
[20:18]  * peppe84 is back (gone 06:06:32)
[20:37] <zkriesse_> peppe84: Please turn off your away announce
[21:19] <Kangarooo> Hello there! This channel people are documantation team and its editing wiki pages yes? what tool are u using for easyr wiki editing?
[21:23] <Rocket2DMn> Kangarooo, most people just use the built in editor on the wiki
[21:24] <Rocket2DMn> there is an applicaiton available in the repositories called editmoin (Moin being the wiki markup syntax used on the Ubuntu wikis)
[21:24] <Kangarooo> Rocket2DMn: yes but im allways forgeting fomating.. easyr would be clickiing title and bulletpoint and subtitle
[21:24] <Kangarooo> wo thx Rocket2DMn
[21:24] <Rocket2DMn> It allows you to edit in external editors, I've never used it though, I'm not sure if it's any good
[21:25] <Rocket2DMn> I'm not sure what there is for WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get) editors that abstract you from the syntax
[21:25] <Rocket2DMn> Kangarooo, you can always bookmark some pages so you can reference syntax if needed, check out the WikiGuide - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide
[21:28] <Kangarooo> Rocket2DMn: yes theres also a lot subpages ive read that 2 times when i needed to write a lot. thx. also i just got idea that a js needs to be made and put in wiki in way it can be activated with one click and it would show up until disbled. it should contain icons or descriptions of buttons and pushing them would put in editing place pressed syntaxes..
[21:31] <Rocket2DMn> I think I know what you mean, that would certainly be nice, a minimal in-place markup editor
[21:31] <Rocket2DMn> like you get on the forums
[21:33] <Rocket2DMn> Kangarooo, you are welcome to file a bug report against the ubuntu-docs package to that effect, as a wishlist item
[21:33] <Kangarooo> maybe LP project for that? couse that solution can be used for ubuntu wiki and for others also
[21:33] <Rocket2DMn> I'm not sure if Moin has any extensions like that already available
[21:34] <Kangarooo> yes., ill check it now.. also who can edit man pages? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/editmoin.1.html there i would like to put correct ubuntu wiki autentification line
[21:36] <Rocket2DMn> Kangarooo, the manpages are exported to html format, i dont believe anybody can edit them in place
[21:36] <Rocket2DMn> you would have to request that change from the editmoin package itself
[21:36] <Rocket2DMn> you might be able to post a debdiff to be applied to future releases of that package, and the maintainer could apply it
[21:36] <Rocket2DMn> it would be an ubuntu customization to the upstream package
[21:37] <Kangarooo> aaah ok
[21:41] <Kangarooo> ok ill just send correct way to log in to wiki ubuntu to developer of editmoin. how was possible to see aptitude something dpkg info .. ? is that the same info thats in mapages? mapeges take that from package info yes?
[21:45] <Rocket2DMn> yeah Kangarooo , you should file a bug report against the editmoin package on LP
[21:47] <Rocket2DMn> Kangarooo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/editmoin
[21:55] <Kangarooo> Rocket2DMn: i just found out wiki ubuntu should have gui edit.. becouse 1.6 moinmoin has it.. if in FF and javascript enabled but ive never seen that
[21:56] <Kangarooo> check http://moinmo.in/WikiSandBox there it works but not for me on wiki ubuntu
[21:56] <Kangarooo> ah.. 1.6 debian has removed the fck editor we bundled with moin
[22:06] <Rocket2DMn> Kangarooo, it looks like both the ubuntu wikis are using MoinMoin 1.6.3
[22:06] <Kangarooo> yes but something was removed from ubuntu wiki
[22:07] <Kangarooo> somekind this "1.6 debian has removed the fck editor we bundled with moin" thats what was told me
[22:07] <Rocket2DMn> yeah i see the gui editor, that looks nice
[22:08] <Rocket2DMn> Kangarooo, why dont you file a bug against the ubuntu-docs package, and we can see if we can get that extension included
[22:08] <Rocket2DMn> ubuntu-docs package is used for documentaiton related bugs, including the wiki
[22:08] <Kangarooo> yes ill do that
[22:08] <Rocket2DMn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs
[22:09] <Rocket2DMn> looks like the upstream moin version is 1.9.3 (being used in moinmo.in)