[02:55] <jfenn2199> goodevening all
[03:08] <cyberanger> evening jfenn2199
[03:08] <jfenn2199> how goes cyberanger?
[03:09] <cyberanger> not too bad
[03:09] <jfenn2199> how did things go this week?
[03:09] <cyberanger> loco council?
[03:09] <jfenn2199> yep
[03:11] <cyberanger> didn't happen, overshot deadline
[03:11] <jfenn2199> ugh
[03:12] <jfenn2199> so when is our next shot?
[03:12] <cyberanger> dec
[03:16] <jfenn2199> ok
[03:16] <jfenn2199> that's not bad
[03:19] <cyberanger> yeah, I wrote a 2 day deadline, but it wad 3 days
[03:30] <jfenn2199> man well atleast we have next month
[03:38] <cyberanger> sorry, was also on the phone
[03:39] <cyberanger> yeah, I took alot of time on projects, the application could have desereved more time (my mistake) but I noticed a problem that made sense waiting a month
[03:42] <cyberanger> our roadmap is pretty much blank, our events I had listed were almost entirely release parties (which is ok, but with a roadmap of ideas & no dates, idk) so I figure next meeting we'll set some more solid plans (we will send an ambassador to chattacon again, 3rd year in a row, running xubuntu last two)
[03:42] <jfenn2199> hmmm
[03:42] <jfenn2199> when is Chattacon?
[03:42] <cyberanger> & use the time to continue getting members approved for membership & get the loco approved
[03:43] <cyberanger> we'll I'll be at chattacon again working computer gaming, it's in january
[03:43] <cyberanger> a weekend
[03:43]  * cyberanger is pulling up the full dates
[03:43] <jfenn2199> hmmm January that's the month of my birth and I should have some PTO again in January and I need to get out of memphis
[03:44] <cyberanger> D'Oh, my network is down somewhat (testing a bandwidth control idea & my ssh server is an exception rule) hang on
[03:45] <jfenn2199> oh it's cool I can pull it up
[03:45] <cyberanger> 21st-23rd
[03:45] <cyberanger> http://www.chattacon.org/
[03:45] <jfenn2199> alright
[03:45] <cyberanger> I got it going (it wasn't hard to disable, I just forgot I enabled it, it did it's job)
[03:48] <jfenn2199> that's always good
[03:49] <jfenn2199> quick question are PPA's in a different source file from sources.list ?
[03:50] <cyberanger> well, the point was for FAP setups (hughesnet, skyblue, celluar, capped systems) I'm not capped so it's pointless here, but easier to setup & test here & setup again elsewhere
[03:50] <cyberanger> they could be
[03:50] <cyberanger> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[03:50] <cyberanger> any thing there ^^
[03:51] <jfenn2199> yep
[03:51] <jfenn2199> that's where my problems are
[03:51] <cyberanger> it can be in
[03:51] <cyberanger> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:51] <jfenn2199> there are some broken PPA's that are preventing me from upgrading to pre-alpha natty and I'm bored right now so I want something fun to do
[03:52] <cyberanger> but it can also be it's own file in that folder or so
[03:53] <jfenn2199> yeah they are all hiding in .d
[03:53] <cyberanger> idk how a ppa could prevent you from upgrading, however I do see missing packages as an issue
[03:53] <cyberanger> I add everything to sources.list myself, but I allways keep my system on a tight leash too
[03:53] <cyberanger> VBox & Tor are it
[03:53] <jfenn2199> it's failing to pull find the PPA on lp and stopping after fetching new source lists'
[03:55] <cyberanger> hrm, what PPA
[03:56] <jfenn2199> ubuntuone-extras
[03:57] <cyberanger> how is it an issue with natty
[03:57] <jfenn2199> thought I had previously removed them but apparently not and I'm about to find out if that fixes it
[03:57] <cyberanger> aside from no natty source
[03:57] <jfenn2199> I believe that's all it terminates upgrade after fetching
[03:58]  * jfenn2199 might just need to wait till Alpha1
[04:02] <cyberanger> jfenn2199: well, what's the issue exactly, it can't find the repository, or the packages are there
[04:02] <cyberanger> is there a error code of some kind?
[04:05] <jfenn2199> the only error showing in the command line is WARNING: Failed to read mirror file
[04:10] <cyberanger> any chance the logs have more info
[04:10] <cyberanger> /var/log/apt/
[04:16] <jfenn2199> E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.'. Retrying (currentRetry: 2)
[04:16] <jfenn2199> 2010-11-20 21:38:36,573 ERROR doUpdate() failed completely
[04:16] <jfenn2199> 2010-11-20 21:38:38,538 DEBUG abort called
[04:16] <jfenn2199> 2010-11-20 21:38:38,564 DEBUG openCache()
[04:16] <jfenn2199> 2010-11-20 21:38:38,565 DEBUG failed to SystemUnLock() (E:Not locked)
[04:16] <jfenn2199> 2010-11-20 21:38:39,595 DEBUG /openCache(), new cache size 32160
[04:16] <jfenn2199> 2010-11-20 21:38:39,616 DEBUG enabling apt cron job
[04:20] <cyberanger> hrm, did you remove the source & packages from it & try?
[04:21] <jfenn2199> yeah but there are quite a bit more failures that I'll have to figure out
[04:21] <cyberanger> idk, I hate vague messages, esp vague error messages
[04:23] <jfenn2199> me too
[04:50] <jfenn2199> well I think this coffee shop is about to close so it's time for me to head out take it easy cyberanger hopefully I'll be back on soon
[04:50] <cyberanger> see you later jfenn2199 (I do wonder why are you drinking coffee & using their wifi)
[04:52] <jfenn2199> ahhh well........  right now I'm working on getting things turned back on and Electricity was 1st priority next is a phone (either cell or internet/home phone (who ever is asking for less money)) all the while attempting to make sure that my rent stays current
[04:52] <jfenn2199> so if I've said it once I've said it a million times NEVER get married
[04:54] <jfenn2199> well they are shoing us out so take it easy
[20:48] <jfenn2199> afternoon all
[20:58] <wrst> afternoon jfenn2199
[20:58] <jfenn2199> how goes wrst?
[20:59] <wrst> pretty good watching the titans  suck it up
[21:00] <jfenn2199> yeah I caught a few minutes they looked like they were gonna do decent.....  for a minute
[21:24] <wrst> well in OT now jfenn2199
[21:25] <jfenn2199> so did we pick up or did the redskins just start playing like the redskins again?
[21:26] <wrst> didn't really pick up
[21:26] <jfenn2199> alright
[21:28] <wrst> they lost
[21:28] <wrst> oh well
[21:28] <jfenn2199> shakes head
[21:30] <jfenn2199> I'll be right back once again playing with gnome-shell my how I wish they would fix the screen rendering on ATI cards
[21:32] <jfenn2199> back
[21:37] <wrst> how is all that going ?
[21:37] <wrst> ati support is really crummy with unity
[21:38] <jfenn2199> not well at all (seeing as the reason for departing)
[21:38] <jfenn2199> yeah I have the same screen drawing in verticals as i do with Unity
[21:39] <jfenn2199> but with Natty they already have a Compiz port of Unity for ATI support
[21:39] <jfenn2199> but unfortunately it's only available on Natty and they're not gonna backport it :-(
[21:41] <jfenn2199> and yesterday I spent too much time fighting to do a pre-alpha upgrade so I figured it probably wasn't the best of ideas
[21:56] <wrst> jfenn2199: it doesn't work very well at all i'm already testing it out
[21:56] <jfenn2199> yikes
[21:57] <jfenn2199> so it's more than just the composite manager then..........
[21:57] <wrst> yeah compiz doesn't work well when i'm not using unity, but interesting they have a plugin in the compiz config settings manager for the unity desktop
[21:58] <wrst> i may log in here in a few and upate and see how its doing now
[21:58] <jfenn2199> oh ok I thought you were already using the compiz plug in
[21:58] <wrst> i would if it would work :)
[21:58] <wrst> but on ati its just all horrible
[21:59] <jfenn2199> ok yeah I have no problem out of compiz on my end
[21:59] <wrst> i'm running the natty compiz ppa and thats where the problem is for me jfenn2199 in 10.10 it works great
[21:59] <jfenn2199> ok makes sense
[22:00] <wrst> but i haven't updated my natty install in about a week so i need to pull all thatin
[22:02] <jfenn2199> yeah I may just wait for Alpha 1
[22:05] <wrst> yeah i got brave but no big deal i keep a testing space on this laptop anyway
[22:08] <jfenn2199> I tried to be brave but it's failing to pull the new repos ..........
[22:12] <wrst> hmm i just changed my sources list from maverick to natty and had no real issues at all
[22:52] <cyberanger> hey everyone