[03:15] <len> Is lxshortcut working for the rest of you?  What I try to run it nothing happens.
[04:05] <len> Hmm.  lxshortcut opens when you right click on a program in menu so you can edit the properties of the specific item, but lxshortcut will not lauch stand-alone.  How are you supposed to create a new shortcut for an installed program that didn't get a .desktop file created for it automatically at startup?
[04:05] <len> at install time, I mean.
[04:08] <len> I installed a windows program that seems to work  fine with wine, but a shortcut never showed up.  I had to created my own .desktop file with a text editor.  There must be a way to use lxshortcut to create a new shortcut from scratch.
[08:50] <bigdad1e> hi
[08:51] <bioterror> hi
[08:51] <bigdad1e> i need some help setting up my network
[08:52] <bigdad1e> what i want to do is- i have 2 servers and a wireless router- i want to run from my modem to one server from that server into the other then into my wireless router. can i do that?
[08:54] <bigdad1e> can anyone help me with that?
[08:55] <bioterror> what
[08:56] <bioterror> hahaha
[08:56] <bigdad1e> i want to run internet from my modem into my servers then into my wireless router
[08:56] <bioterror> yes
[08:56] <bigdad1e> im new to linux so please dont laugh lol
[08:56] <bioterror> I have a cable modem which is connected to pfSense 2.0-beta4 machine which shares my internet connection
[08:57] <bigdad1e> im glad to know i can do it. can you help?
[08:57] <bigdad1e> linux doesnt like me too much lol
[08:57] <bioterror> behind my pfSense machine  (router, dns, nat) is my media server (my desktop) and wlan and other laptops and network media streamer
[08:58] <bioterror> is my kind of network in your mind?
[08:58] <bioterror> that you want NAT
[08:58] <bigdad1e> something close to that. i want server-server-wireless-desktop-laptop
[08:58] <bigdad1e> i want nat behind my routers
[08:58] <bioterror> nope
[08:58] <bigdad1e> nat behind my SERVER*
[08:59] <bioterror> you need NAT -> switch -> other computers
[08:59] <bigdad1e> i have gameservers running off of the first server will it mess with the ports?
[08:59] <bigdad1e> nat*
[09:00] <bioterror> you can do port forwards
[09:00] <bioterror> or you can specify a DMZ
[09:00] <bigdad1e> ok. whatever i have to do to get it to work
[09:01] <bioterror> well
[09:01] <bigdad1e> how do i do it
[09:02] <bioterror> are you really asking us to guide you thru configuring your home network
[09:02] <bigdad1e> correct i have no other choice.
[09:02] <bioterror> well, 85 euros an hour, thank you
[09:02] <bioterror> :D
[09:02] <bigdad1e> i trust everyone until they show me otherwise
[09:04] <bigdad1e> with a name like bigterror what do i need to worry about lmao
[09:04] <bioterror> install pfSense, ipfire, zentyal or what every you want for your first server
[09:04] <bioterror> yeah, I like my nickname
[09:04] <bioterror> but my wife thinks it's a little childish
[09:04] <bioterror> but NUCLEARWINTER is too long :(
[09:05] <bioterror> easiest way is to install zentyal from ppa
[09:05] <bioterror> but I dont like how zentyal works
[09:05] <bioterror> so I'm using pfSense my self
[09:06] <bigdad1e> sudo apt-get install pfsence?
[09:06] <bioterror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PfSense
[09:07] <bioterror> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zentyal
[09:07] <bioterror> zentyal is a ubuntu derivate
[09:07] <bigdad1e> how do i install it?
[09:07] <bigdad1e> pf
[09:08] <bioterror> grab .iso, burn it on disc, boot it and install it
[09:08] <bioterror> then with another computer connect to it
[09:08] <bioterror> with web browser
[09:08] <bioterror> 192.168.0.1
[09:08] <bioterror> and start configuring
[09:08] <bioterror> you'll get so freakin' awesome home network, that you'll score chicks alot
[09:09] <bigdad1e> i cant burn anything. my desktops down and server only has a cdrom
[09:09] <bioterror> atleast, my wife loves our home network
[09:09] <bioterror> go with the zentyal
[09:09] <bioterror> it lacks some things with DNS
[09:10] <bigdad1e> is there any other ways of install?
[09:10] <bioterror> as I am a nice guy
[09:10] <bioterror> I'll show you
[09:10] <bigdad1e> thank you
[09:10] <bioterror> I installed zentyal on a lubuntu box
[09:10] <bigdad1e> do you want to remote connect?
[09:10] <bioterror> using 10.04
[09:11] <bioterror> no Id ont want
[09:11] <bioterror> you shall do it yourself
[09:11] <bioterror> http://trac.zentyal.org/wiki/Document/Documentation/InstallationGuide
[09:11] <bioterror> you dont learn anything if you dont do it yourself
[09:11] <bioterror> hope you're using 10.04
[09:12] <bioterror> :D
[09:12] <bigdad1e> i think i am lol
[09:12] <bigdad1e> i installed ubuntu server and did sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <bioterror> okay
[09:13] <bioterror> now you just need to add that zentyal
[09:13] <bioterror> and start configuring
[09:14] <bigdad1e> im lost.. lol sudo apt-get install zentyal?
[09:15] <bioterror> For Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid). You should install the server edition.
[09:15] <bioterror> Add to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
[09:15] <bioterror> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/zentyal/2.0/ubuntu lucid main
[09:15] <bioterror> In order to authenticate the packages in the PPA you can import its public key with the following command:
[09:15] <bioterror> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 10E239FF
[09:15] <bioterror> In order to authenticate the packages in the PPA you can import its public key with the following command:
[09:15] <bioterror> damn windows
[09:15] <bioterror> sudo apt-get update
[09:15] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install zentyal
[09:17] <bigdad1e> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to /etc/apt/sources.list.
[09:17] <bigdad1e> Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[09:17] <bioterror> remember to use sudo
[09:18] <bigdad1e> i was doing it in kate
[09:18] <bioterror> well
[09:18] <bioterror> gksudo or something
[09:19] <bigdad1e> got that part.
[09:20] <bioterror> add that key from server, do apt-get update and install zentyal
[09:21] <bigdad1e> on our way
[09:21] <bigdad1e> what port? the one it suggests?
[09:22] <bioterror> what?
[09:22] <bigdad1e> its asking for a port number. it has 443 in the box just hit ok?
[09:22] <bioterror> yes
[09:22] <bioterror> zentyal uses https
[09:23] <bigdad1e> ────────────────────────┤ Configuring ebox ├───────────────────────────┐
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │ Please enter the port which will be used by the Zentyal HTTPS server.   │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │ Use an available port that is not being used by another service.        │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │                                                                         │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │ Zentyal HTTPS port:                                                     │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │                                                                         │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │ 443____________________________________________________________________ │
[09:23] <bioterror> !pastebin
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │                                                                         │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │
[09:23] <bigdad1e> 1pastebin ────────────────────────┤ Configuring ebox ├───────────────────────────┐
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │ Please enter the port which will be used by the Zentyal HTTPS server.   │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │ Use an available port that is not being used by another service.        │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │                                                                         │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │ Zentyal HTTPS port:                                                     │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │                                                                         │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │ 443____________________________________________________________________ │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │                                                                         │
[09:23] <bigdad1e>   │
[09:24] <bigdad1e> can you see what i pasted?
[09:24] <bioterror> hit enter
[09:24] <bioterror> go on
[09:24] <bigdad1e> i put it in
[09:24] <bigdad1e> !pastebin
[09:24] <hyperair> bigdad1e: it'd be nice if you could use pastebin next time.
[09:25] <bigdad1e> hyperair: sorry i am new to this and dont know how to do that just yet. sorry
[09:25] <hyperair> bigdad1e: click the link
[09:25] <hyperair> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <bigdad1e> ────────────────────────┤ Configuring ebox ├───────────────────────────┐
[09:25] <bigdad1e>   │ Please enter the port which will be used by the Zentyal HTTPS server.   │
[09:25] <bigdad1e>   │ Use an available port that is not being used by another service.        │
[09:25] <bigdad1e>   │                                                                         │
[09:25] <bigdad1e>   │ Zentyal HTTPS port:                                                     │
[09:25] <bigdad1e>   │                                                                         │
[09:25] <hyperair> copy your text, paste it into the text
[09:25] <bigdad1e>   │ 443____________________________________________________________________ │
[09:25] <bigdad1e>   │                                                                         │
[09:25] <hyperair> ..
[09:25] <bigdad1e>   │
[09:26] <hyperair> use pastebin or be kicked.
[09:26] <bigdad1e> jesus im sorry i didnt relise it opened in my internet
[09:26] <hyperair> ...
[09:26] <bioterror> hyperair, so, it was time to rise above others ;)
[09:26] <hyperair> bioterror: lol
[09:27] <bigdad1e> i just posted it on there
[09:27] <hyperair> bioterror: i just sprouted a bump on my head, that's all.
[09:27] <hyperair> bigdad1e: okay, copy the URL and paste it here.
[09:27] <bigdad1e> shit i exited it one min
[09:27] <bigdad1e> http://paste.ubuntu.com/535127/
[09:28] <hyperair> there we go
[09:28] <bigdad1e> im learning
[09:28] <bigdad1e> dont kick me before i learn something.
[09:28] <hyperair> bigdad1e: so anyway, go back to the terminal window where you see the dialogue
[09:28] <bigdad1e> :-P
[09:28] <hyperair> and press enter =)
[09:29] <bigdad1e> lol
[09:29] <bigdad1e> i didnt know if i was to use a special port
[09:29] <bigdad1e> i know nothing about linux
[09:29] <hyperair> bigdad1e: when you paste many lines into an irc channel, it gets buffered, and the text comes in line by line, with some delay in between each line, so it takes a long time, and it's very hard to chat in the channel until the lines have finished coming in.
[09:29] <hyperair> bigdad1e: the only way to stop it is to kick the user, or for the user to leave the channel and rejoin on his own accord.
[09:30] <hyperair> bigdad1e: 443 is the default port for https
[09:30] <bigdad1e> ic
[09:30] <hyperair> it's probably what you want.
[09:30] <bigdad1e> i never set anything up like this.
[09:30] <hyperair> we can see that. =)
[09:30] <bigdad1e> just bought 2 servers the other day and windows was too big to put on a cdr because the servers only have a cdrom
[09:31] <bigdad1e> 2- 4xxeon 2.8ghz 8gig ram 4 36gb 15k rpm hdds $100usd a piece. good deal?
[09:31] <bioterror> not bad
[09:32] <hyperair> i'd love a machine like that.
[09:32] <hyperair> except that....
[09:32] <hyperair> it'll probably be a waste because my home internet connection sucks so hard that the bottleneck will be the network anyway
[09:32] <bioterror> with 4 hdd's you can make a RAID5
[09:32] <bigdad1e> i dont understand the meaning of RAID
[09:33] <bioterror> :G
[09:33] <bioterror> well, hope your server has a nice color, like black or purple or something like that
[09:33] <bioterror> my wife likes that our car is black
[09:33] <bigdad1e> http://paste.ubuntu.com/535129/
[09:33] <bigdad1e> lmao they are pasty purple lol
[09:34] <bigdad1e> hot swap hdds and hotswap power supplys
[09:34] <bigdad1e> oh and i have a / connection
[09:34] <hyperair> bigdad1e: sudo apt-get install -f
[09:34] <bigdad1e> 30/5*
[09:35] <bigdad1e> same error came up
[09:35] <bigdad1e> oh i think i see the problem
[09:36] <bigdad1e> http://paste.ubuntu.com/535130/   at line 2 and 3
[09:37] <hyperair> bigdad1e: looks like ebox's postinst script is failing.
[09:37] <hyperair> bigdad1e: can you paste the whole output?
[09:38] <bigdad1e> http://paste.ubuntu.com/535131/
[09:39] <hyperair> yeah the problem lies with ebo
[09:39] <hyperair> x
[09:39] <hyperair> lemme try it hre
[09:39] <bigdad1e> so what can i do now?
[09:40] <hyperair> bigdad1e: wait a sec, where did you install your ebox from?
[09:40] <bioterror> from the ppa
[09:40] <hyperair> which ppa?
[09:40] <hyperair> can you give me the url?
[09:40] <bioterror> Mon11:15 <bioterror> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/zentyal/2.0/ubuntu lucid main
[09:40] <hyperair> hmm lucid
[09:40] <bioterror> he's running server
[09:41] <bioterror> server edition of ubuntu
[09:41] <bioterror> I made some assumes that it would be 10.04
[09:41] <bigdad1e> correct the new one i guess 10.04 or 10.10
[09:41] <bigdad1e> with lubuntu desktop
[09:41] <hyperair> bigdad1e: can you run this command: lsb_release -r -rd
[09:42] <bigdad1e> 10.10
[09:42] <bioterror> oh yeah
[09:42] <bioterror> that's the problem
[09:43] <bioterror> zentyal is only for 10.04 :G
[09:43] <bigdad1e> how do you learn all of the commands
[09:43] <bioterror> bigdad1e, with experience
[09:44] <bigdad1e> whewre do i increase font size in quassel irc
[09:44]  * hyperair doesn't use quassel
[09:44]  * bioterror is terminal 4 life
[09:44] <hyperair> weechat eh
[09:45] <bioterror> hahaha
[09:45] <hyperair> ;-)
[09:45] <bioterror> you're not running anything ircII ;*)
[09:46] <bigdad1e> sweet i got it
[09:47] <hyperair> bioterror: hmm?
[09:47] <bigdad1e> font size*
[09:47] <bigdad1e> it was set at 9pt
[09:47] <bigdad1e> on a 21in monitor
[09:47] <hyperair> bioterror: it seems ebox's packaging in the ppa is dodgy.
[09:47] <hyperair> it uses sudo in the postinst
[09:47] <bioterror> hyperair, seems so. they are using 10.04 as it's LTS :P
[09:47] <bioterror> but
[09:48] <bioterror> I've installed it once or twice
[09:48] <bioterror> I think once
[09:49] <bigdad1e> is there any other apps i can install for it?
[09:52] <hyperair> bigdad1e: what are you trying to setup?
[09:53] <bioterror> hyperair, seems like NAT
[09:53] <bioterror> DHCPD
[09:53] <hyperair> you don't need zentyal for that.
[09:53] <bigdad1e> ok
[09:55] <bigdad1e> what do i do now
[09:55] <hyperair> bigdad1e: well, what you can do is complain to the owner of that PPA that the installation fails miserably.
[09:55] <bigdad1e> what just popped up
[09:57] <bigdad1e> hyperair: did you just send me something?
[09:57] <hyperair> no i didn't.
[09:57] <bigdad1e> ok.. is there a different program i can install instead
[10:01] <hyperair> hmm
[10:01] <hyperair> i don't know
[10:01] <hyperair> i'd honestly do all the setup manually, never used anything like zentyal or any alternatives
[10:02] <bioterror> hyperair, I used to have my FreeBSD manualy configured with DNS and DHCPD
[10:02] <bigdad1e> if you could walk me though it i would :-) lol
[10:02] <hyperair> well i would, but i've got a bunch of exams coming up and i really really need to study
[10:03] <bigdad1e> ok. thanks anyway
[10:03] <bigdad1e> and thanks bioterror for trying
[10:03] <bioterror> well
[10:04] <bioterror> I still think you should grab yourself a CD-R or something
[10:04] <bioterror> and burn pfSense or another that kind of program
[10:04] <bioterror> s/program/operating system/
[10:04] <bioterror> and do it with that
[10:04] <bigdad1e> im out of cdrs lol ive burnt so many not relising
[10:04] <hyperair> yeah
[10:05] <bioterror> do you have a usb sticks?
[10:05] <bigdad1e> they dont have usb
[10:06] <bigdad1e> DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment this is already installed
[10:07] <bigdad1e> guidedog?
[10:09] <bigdad1e> network -config?
[10:30] <bioterror> bigdad1e, why you're not using a adsl modem or what ever connection you have in a routing mode
[10:31] <bigdad1e> ??
[10:34] <bigdad1e> how do i set up an ftp server?
[10:34] <bigdad1e> forget it im going to bed been up way too long. thanks for your help
[11:21] <kaemo> can any1 tell me why fonts are so different from each other? these are both gtk apps afaik
[11:21] <kaemo> http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8370/201011221218241280x1024.png
[12:21] <bigdad1e_> is anyone in here
[12:21] <bioterror> you should be in bed
[12:22] <bioterror> bigdad1e_, back to sleep!
[12:22] <bigdad1e_> should be cant sleep
[12:22] <bioterror> hahaha
[12:22] <bigdad1e_> thinking about how to finish this damn server
[12:22] <bigdad1e_> lol
[12:22] <bioterror> I know that feeling
[12:23] <bigdad1e_> its driving me instane
[12:24] <bigdad1e_> why do i get that fatal config error
[12:24] <bigdad1e_> everytime i try to install anything
[12:26] <bigdad1e_> got any hints?
[12:37] <bigdad1e_> does anyone know how i can get rid of the error when i am installing any dhcp server
[12:39] <bioterror> bigdad1e_, make a clean installation
[12:39] <bioterror> and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[12:40] <bioterror> actually that's not that hard
[12:43] <bioterror> bigdad1e_, fresh install takes around 20minutes
[12:46] <Kurdistan> bioterror, fresh install with usb instead of cd takes shorter amount of time. :)
[12:47] <bioterror> yeah
[12:47] <bioterror> but his servers doesnt have usb's
[12:47] <Kurdistan> I see
[16:20] <Asus1991> Hello, what can I use to view my system logs on lubuntu?
[22:37] <Neosano> yay
[22:37] <Neosano> I broke my lubuntu in 5 minutes..
[22:38] <head_victim> What broke?
[22:40] <Neosano> oh not yet.. wait..
[22:40] <Neosano> I'll kill it..
[22:42] <head_victim> Hah well of course you can if you're trying to.
[22:42] <Neosano> hmm
[22:42] <Neosano> just wondering
[22:42] <Neosano> what is CPUFreq frontend
[22:42] <Neosano> it's possible to add it to the panel
[22:42] <Neosano> but.. it's completely useless... or did I miss something?
[22:44] <Neosano> and really.. I hate it
[22:44] <Neosano> I have reaaallyy old laptop
[22:45] <Neosano> and when cpu is on powersave - it's ok
[22:45] <head_victim> Ah never tried and the only lubuntu I have is on a VM for now which probably won't work.
[22:45] <Neosano> but when it goes to performance it just shuts down because of the overheat
[22:45] <Neosano> ...
[22:45] <Neosano> and f***...
[22:45] <Neosano> by default it uses ondemand, which isn't enough for me
[22:45] <head_victim> Actually I lie. I have a laptop here.
[22:45] <Neosano> I installed cpufreqd and cpufreq-utils
[22:46] <Neosano> and now I can't do anything..
[22:46] <Neosano> this damn panel applet says it's in powersave, really it is not
[22:46] <head_victim> I'll go install them on my laptop and see.
[22:46] <Neosano> :o
[22:46] <Neosano> I think installing cpufreq-utils is enough
[22:47] <Neosano> but I installed cpufreqd
[22:47] <Neosano> now I removed it, but it broke something :<
[22:47] <head_victim> Neosano: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=104 that might be useful.
[22:51] <Neosano> why can't we have a little icon in our panel which will take care of everything about cpu governors........
[22:54] <Neosano> and wireless is not working..... come ooooooooon.......
[23:01] <head_victim> Well I tried but apparently I have no known cpufreq driver active on my cpu.
[23:02] <Neosano> OH
[23:02] <Neosano> YAY
[23:03] <Neosano> now wireless is working
[23:03] <Neosano> MYSTERY
[23:03] <Neosano> yes I love it.