| BUGabundo | and here goes the largest test Amazon has EVER faced! | 00:01 |
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| coz_ | hey guys..as i recall..if I download the daily build alternate...i can use that to update maverick ...yes? | 03:15 |
| IdleOne | coz_: you should be able to yes | 03:15 |
| coz_ | IdleOne, so actually if I use something like gmountiso I can still do that yes? | 03:16 |
| IdleOne | I have never done that | 03:16 |
| IdleOne | don't know to tell the truth | 03:16 |
| coz_ | IdleOne, me neither,, that's why I asked,,,well i will find out :) | 03:16 |
| IdleOne | :) | 03:17 |
| coz_ | well if it works it would a nice hint for others :) | 03:17 |
| rww | mount -o loop works for upgrading. | 03:18 |
| coz_ | rww, with just iso image? | 03:19 |
| rww | Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD , adapt for Natty. | 03:19 |
| coz_ | yeah that wants it to be burned | 03:19 |
| rww | no it doesn't | 03:20 |
| rww | see the bullet point under (2) | 03:20 |
| coz_ | ah? ok I will read more carefully | 03:20 |
| coz_ | ah I see | 03:20 |
| coz_ | ah ok gmountiso should work then | 03:21 |
| rww | I've had issues with gmountiso in the past with other ISOs. Your mileage may vary, but I'd recommend mount -o loop. | 03:22 |
| coz_ | ok thanks :) | 03:22 |
| coz_ | is update-manager -d still viable or upgradeing?? | 06:03 |
| rww | upgrading from what to what? | 06:03 |
| coz_ | maverick to natty | 06:03 |
| rww | I believe so | 06:03 |
| coz_ | the alternate iso didnt work for me | 06:03 |
| rww | may be that the various metapackages aren't installable due to package conflicts right now. I couldn't say. | 06:04 |
| coz_ | ok | 06:04 |
| coz_ | rww, so if all else fails clean install from daily build? | 06:04 |
| rww | I think I grabbed Maverick, changed my sources.list, and did aptitude safe-upgrade, then let conflicts deal with themselves over time. This probably isn't recommended, though ;\ | 06:05 |
| coz_ | yeah that also failed at setting new software channels | 06:06 |
| rww | that's do-release-upgrade, not aptitude | 06:06 |
| coz_ | well it failed again with update-manager -d | 06:06 |
| coz_ | same place | 06:06 |
| coz_ | ok let me try do-release-upgrade | 06:07 |
| coz_ | ok nothing working | 06:07 |
| coz_ | I will burn the darn iso | 06:07 |
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| st__ | is alpha out? | 08:55 |
| rww | st__: It's due on December 2nd | 09:04 |
| st__ | nice | 09:04 |
| Drakeson | does the unity launcher use gconf for its settings? | 16:28 |
| lapion | 3/j #ubuntu | 18:22 |
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| IdleOne | When do we normally see new artwork in +1? | 18:46 |
| IdleOne | splash screen and stuff | 18:46 |
| Pici | IdleOne: Not until much later in the cycle. | 18:46 |
| rww | the day after UI freeze | 18:47 |
| IdleOne | I been seeing the 10.10 splash for long time now :/ | 18:47 |
| IdleOne | bored with it | 18:47 |
| IdleOne | I need new splashyness | 18:47 |
| frewsxcv | how do you remove something from $PATH ? | 20:43 |
| xnox | What's the best way to upgrade all ppa to a new release? | 20:57 |
| xnox | /etc/apt/sources.d/* | 20:57 |
| BUGabundo | o/ | 21:01 |
| * charlie-tca waves at BUGabundo | 21:10 | |
| BUGabundo | hey charlie-tca | 21:10 |
| BUGabundo | what are we breaking today? | 21:10 |
| charlie-tca | I can't get anything to breal | 21:11 |
| charlie-tca | break | 21:11 |
| charlie-tca | OTOH, I can't any updates either | 21:11 |
| charlie-tca | Haven't had any in a week or more | 21:11 |
| charlie-tca | hm, maybe I broke it real bad and don't know it? | 21:12 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 21:14 |
| BUGabundo | I just had a bunch | 21:14 |
| yofel | wait, no updates sounds familiar... | 21:14 |
| charlie-tca | so what did I do to it? | 21:14 |
| yofel | charlie-tca: you're not hit by bug 678196 are you? | 21:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 678196 in apt (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu extras repository prevents other updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678196 | 21:15 |
| charlie-tca | heh, let's find out | 21:15 |
| charlie-tca | OMG! 225 upgrades | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca | yofel: yup, that is it | 21:19 |
| yofel | crap, mvo isn't here :/ | 21:19 |
| charlie-tca | blocks upgrade-manger and dist-upgrade | 21:19 |
| yofel | really? dist-upgrade worked when I tried it. (I think - let me check) | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | aptitude full upgrade ftew | 21:20 |
| charlie-tca | Never use aptitude | 21:20 |
| charlie-tca | so, how bad will I break it now? | 21:21 |
| yofel | geh, can't test it without any pending updates -.- | 21:21 |
| charlie-tca | Seems like a pretty critical bug, if it blocks all upgrades | 21:22 |
| yofel | it *seemed* to work for me last time I tried it so I left the bug alone, but I don't use regular apt or update-manager usually | 21:23 |
| charlie-tca | I use dist-upgrade daily, and try update-manager weekly | 21:24 |
| yofel | and it's not like I can leave extras enabled all the time since it really breaks apt-get source which I use frequently | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | importance high or critical? | 21:24 |
| yofel | I would go for high, I think there aren't that many pre-alpha users out there that critical makes sense | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | did it | 21:28 |
| BUGabundo | this new pidgin bug is nice | 21:37 |
| BUGabundo | can't select the bottom line | 21:37 |
| yofel | haven't tried pidgin in ages.. let's see... | 21:38 |
| charlie-tca | hm, I tried pidgin last week, did it change since then? | 21:39 |
| yofel | and it still doesn't support xmpp priorities.. | 21:39 |
| BUGabundo | yes it does | 21:41 |
| BUGabundo | I would die without it | 21:41 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: and where do I set it? | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | enable the plugin | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | you know pidgin is minimalist | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | who uses it , anyway | 21:44 |
| BUGabundo | want it, enable it | 21:44 |
| charlie-tca | Yay! I did break something today. | 21:51 |
| charlie-tca | A fresh install of natty, opened appearance, can't shutdown now | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 21:52 |
| * BUGabundo presses charlie-tca power button | 21:52 | |
| charlie-tca | lol | 21:53 |
| charlie-tca | had hopes of just using the software shutdown button | 21:53 |
| charlie-tca | But I can't close appearances either | 21:54 |
| xnox | Congratulations! =) Have a cookie ;-) | 21:56 |
| yofel | the only issue I have so far is that my thinkpad fails to suspend, works fine otherwise | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | most of my applets don't work | 22:03 |
| BUGabundo | firefox migrated to 5 (I've pinned down to 3) | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | cpu starts on Max performance | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | nouveau 3D won't work | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | now pidgin is wonky | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | need I say more ? | 22:04 |
| yofel | nah, though I wonder what testpilot is | 22:11 |
| yofel | firefox (4.0~b7+nobinonly-0ubuntu3) natty; "Ship the testpilot extension for beta as per the official builds" | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | downthemall won't work with ff 4.0? | 22:17 |
| yofel | nope, doesn't work for me either | 22:18 |
| * yofel wonders why they didn't at least update ubufox... | 22:18 | |
| charlie-tca | I didn't think ubufox gets updated until beta or later | 22:19 |
| yofel | well, for me downthemall, firegestures, firebug and the lp-gm-scripts are the ones that I hope get updated sometime soon | 22:21 |
| charlie-tca | me too | 22:21 |
| BUGabundo | greasemonkey :) | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | its being rewriten | 22:29 |
| xnox | BUGabundo, chromium extension? chromium compatible greasemonkey? | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | but not personalized as in FF | 22:37 |
| BUGabundo | you can't edit them after adding | 22:37 |
| dan2 | is there a fix for this lack of window manager borders or such in natty? | 22:59 |
| dan2 | I've worked around it by using metacity --replace | 22:59 |
| dan2 | but | 22:59 |
| dan2 | it is very very annoying | 22:59 |
| leagris | Throwing an idea here. Eat that. For 11years using Linux and 7 years of Ubuntu. The very annoying little thing that kept never enhanced, is: The default caps-lock off. Really, it is crazy IMHO. Who the hell prefer this default caps-lock off instead of on? | 23:06 |
| leagris | Shall I put some poll feature request on Launchpad for changing this default? | 23:07 |
| yofel | caps lock on by default o.O? well, put an idea on brainstorm if you want | 23:10 |
| leagris | :) | 23:10 |
| Pici | I'm not sure why anyone would want that though... | 23:11 |
| leagris | Pici, non english keyboards don't have digits on main keyboard | 23:11 |
| yofel | or he means num lock... | 23:11 |
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| Pici | yofel: that would make more sense. | 23:12 |
| Pici | leagris: capslock != numlock | 23:12 |
| leagris | solid_liquid, when login, entering password with numbers require enabling num-lock, because the numeric keypad is useless without it. | 23:12 |
| leagris | Pici, with eg french keyboard, entering numbers on the main require maintaining shift. Caps-lock does not enable numbers. | 23:13 |
| Pici | leagris: You said capslock before, thats why we were confused. | 23:13 |
| leagris | Furthermore, I see no reason not enabling numbers on numeric key pad as the alternate cursor displacment there already have dedicated keys | 23:14 |
| leagris | Pici, sorry | 23:14 |
| leagris | was meant to be num-lock ;D | 23:14 |
| yofel | well, I'll agree with that then (on keyboards that have a seperate numpad) | 23:15 |
| leagris | especially I struggled with debugging crash issues in compiz. So spent some time in the text console CTRL+ALT+F1, then back to Xorg CTRL+ALT+F7, then had the num-lock status out of sync between the text console and Xorg. Num-lock led on but non num-lock... | 23:17 |
| leagris | And needed to log-in several times, re enabling num-lock each time I restarted gdm | 23:18 |
| leagris | yofel, that setting default num-lock could be dependant on exclusion of laptop-mode as most desktop keyboard have numpad. | 23:19 |
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