[00:01] and here goes the largest test Amazon has EVER faced! [03:15] hey guys..as i recall..if I download the daily build alternate...i can use that to update maverick ...yes? [03:15] coz_: you should be able to yes [03:16] IdleOne, so actually if I use something like gmountiso I can still do that yes? [03:16] I have never done that [03:16] don't know to tell the truth [03:16] IdleOne, me neither,, that's why I asked,,,well i will find out :) [03:17] :) [03:17] well if it works it would a nice hint for others :) [03:18] mount -o loop works for upgrading. [03:19] rww, with just iso image? [03:19] Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%20CD/DVD , adapt for Natty. [03:19] yeah that wants it to be burned [03:20] no it doesn't [03:20] see the bullet point under (2) [03:20] ah? ok I will read more carefully [03:20] ah I see [03:21] ah ok gmountiso should work then [03:22] I've had issues with gmountiso in the past with other ISOs. Your mileage may vary, but I'd recommend mount -o loop. [03:22] ok thanks :) [06:03] is update-manager -d still viable or upgradeing?? [06:03] upgrading from what to what? [06:03] maverick to natty [06:03] I believe so [06:03] the alternate iso didnt work for me [06:04] may be that the various metapackages aren't installable due to package conflicts right now. I couldn't say. [06:04] ok [06:04] rww, so if all else fails clean install from daily build? [06:05] I think I grabbed Maverick, changed my sources.list, and did aptitude safe-upgrade, then let conflicts deal with themselves over time. This probably isn't recommended, though ;\ [06:06] yeah that also failed at setting new software channels [06:06] that's do-release-upgrade, not aptitude [06:06] well it failed again with update-manager -d [06:06] same place [06:07] ok let me try do-release-upgrade [06:07] ok nothing working [06:07] I will burn the darn iso === TerminX_ is now known as TerminX === rww is now known as chu___ === chu___ is now known as rww === FireCrotch is now known as nickmoeck [08:55] is alpha out? [09:04] st__: It's due on December 2nd [09:04] nice [16:28] does the unity launcher use gconf for its settings? [18:22] 3/j #ubuntu === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:46] When do we normally see new artwork in +1? [18:46] splash screen and stuff [18:46] IdleOne: Not until much later in the cycle. [18:47] the day after UI freeze [18:47] I been seeing the 10.10 splash for long time now :/ [18:47] bored with it [18:47] I need new splashyness [20:43] how do you remove something from $PATH ? [20:57] What's the best way to upgrade all ppa to a new release? [20:57] /etc/apt/sources.d/* [21:01] o/ [21:10] * charlie-tca waves at BUGabundo [21:10] hey charlie-tca [21:10] what are we breaking today? [21:11] I can't get anything to breal [21:11] break [21:11] OTOH, I can't any updates either [21:11] Haven't had any in a week or more [21:12] hm, maybe I broke it real bad and don't know it? [21:14] lol [21:14] I just had a bunch [21:14] wait, no updates sounds familiar... [21:14] so what did I do to it? [21:15] charlie-tca: you're not hit by bug 678196 are you? [21:15] Launchpad bug 678196 in apt (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu extras repository prevents other updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678196 [21:15] heh, let's find out [21:19] OMG! 225 upgrades [21:19] yofel: yup, that is it [21:19] crap, mvo isn't here :/ [21:19] blocks upgrade-manger and dist-upgrade [21:20] really? dist-upgrade worked when I tried it. (I think - let me check) [21:20] aptitude full upgrade ftew [21:20] Never use aptitude [21:21] so, how bad will I break it now? [21:21] geh, can't test it without any pending updates -.- [21:22] Seems like a pretty critical bug, if it blocks all upgrades [21:23] it *seemed* to work for me last time I tried it so I left the bug alone, but I don't use regular apt or update-manager usually [21:24] I use dist-upgrade daily, and try update-manager weekly [21:24] and it's not like I can leave extras enabled all the time since it really breaks apt-get source which I use frequently [21:24] importance high or critical? [21:26] I would go for high, I think there aren't that many pre-alpha users out there that critical makes sense [21:28] did it [21:37] this new pidgin bug is nice [21:37] can't select the bottom line [21:38] haven't tried pidgin in ages.. let's see... [21:39] hm, I tried pidgin last week, did it change since then? [21:39] and it still doesn't support xmpp priorities.. [21:41] yes it does [21:41] I would die without it [21:42] BUGabundo: and where do I set it? [21:44] enable the plugin [21:44] you know pidgin is minimalist [21:44] who uses it , anyway [21:44] want it, enable it [21:51] Yay! I did break something today. [21:51] A fresh install of natty, opened appearance, can't shutdown now [21:52] LOL [21:52] * BUGabundo presses charlie-tca power button [21:53] lol [21:53] had hopes of just using the software shutdown button [21:54] But I can't close appearances either [21:56] Congratulations! =) Have a cookie ;-) [21:57] the only issue I have so far is that my thinkpad fails to suspend, works fine otherwise [22:03] most of my applets don't work [22:04] firefox migrated to 5 (I've pinned down to 3) [22:04] cpu starts on Max performance [22:04] nouveau 3D won't work [22:04] now pidgin is wonky [22:04] need I say more ? [22:11] nah, though I wonder what testpilot is [22:11] firefox (4.0~b7+nobinonly-0ubuntu3) natty; "Ship the testpilot extension for beta as per the official builds" [22:17] downthemall won't work with ff 4.0? [22:18] nope, doesn't work for me either [22:18] * yofel wonders why they didn't at least update ubufox... [22:19] I didn't think ubufox gets updated until beta or later [22:21] well, for me downthemall, firegestures, firebug and the lp-gm-scripts are the ones that I hope get updated sometime soon [22:21] me too [22:29] greasemonkey :) [22:29] its being rewriten [22:36] BUGabundo, chromium extension? chromium compatible greasemonkey? [22:37] yes [22:37] but not personalized as in FF [22:37] you can't edit them after adding [22:59] is there a fix for this lack of window manager borders or such in natty? [22:59] I've worked around it by using metacity --replace [22:59] but [22:59] it is very very annoying [23:06] Throwing an idea here. Eat that. For 11years using Linux and 7 years of Ubuntu. The very annoying little thing that kept never enhanced, is: The default caps-lock off. Really, it is crazy IMHO. Who the hell prefer this default caps-lock off instead of on? [23:07] Shall I put some poll feature request on Launchpad for changing this default? [23:10] caps lock on by default o.O? well, put an idea on brainstorm if you want [23:10] :) [23:11] I'm not sure why anyone would want that though... [23:11] Pici, non english keyboards don't have digits on main keyboard [23:11] or he means num lock... === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [23:12] yofel: that would make more sense. [23:12] leagris: capslock != numlock [23:12] solid_liquid, when login, entering password with numbers require enabling num-lock, because the numeric keypad is useless without it. [23:13] Pici, with eg french keyboard, entering numbers on the main require maintaining shift. Caps-lock does not enable numbers. [23:13] leagris: You said capslock before, thats why we were confused. [23:14] Furthermore, I see no reason not enabling numbers on numeric key pad as the alternate cursor displacment there already have dedicated keys [23:14] Pici, sorry [23:14] was meant to be num-lock ;D [23:15] well, I'll agree with that then (on keyboards that have a seperate numpad) [23:17] especially I struggled with debugging crash issues in compiz. So spent some time in the text console CTRL+ALT+F1, then back to Xorg CTRL+ALT+F7, then had the num-lock status out of sync between the text console and Xorg. Num-lock led on but non num-lock... [23:18] And needed to log-in several times, re enabling num-lock each time I restarted gdm [23:19] yofel, that setting default num-lock could be dependant on exclusion of laptop-mode as most desktop keyboard have numpad. === FireCrotch is now known as nickmoeck