| kklimonda | good morning | 06:37 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 07:53 |
| pitti | Good morning | 08:03 |
| didrocks | hey pitti, how was your week-end? | 08:03 |
| pitti | pretty quiet, and relaxing | 08:03 |
| pitti | I started to watch Big Bang Theory | 08:04 |
| pitti | awexome! | 08:04 |
| didrocks | pitti: hehe, yes it is! | 08:05 |
| didrocks | pitti: Julie and I watched all the episods of the 3 seasons in less than 2 weeks! | 08:06 |
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| pitti | heh | 08:06 |
| pitti | I'm at 1-16 now | 08:06 |
| pitti | didrocks: how was your's? | 08:06 |
| didrocks | pitti: was nice, thanks. At least a week-end with some sun. So, we walk a little in Annecy (before the snow which should come today or tomorrow) | 08:07 |
| pitti | so I've heard -- finally winter | 08:08 |
| didrocks | yeah :) | 08:09 |
| kklimonda | seb is working today? | 08:09 |
| didrocks | kklimonda: I think so, he'll be thee in some minutes I guess | 08:12 |
| kklimonda | thanks :) | 08:14 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:55 |
| kklimonda | o/ rodrigo_ | 08:55 |
| rodrigo_ | hi kklimonda | 08:56 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, since you've merged the branch, can you remove it please (git push :wip/query-response) | 09:04 |
| rodrigo_ | git push origin :wip/query-response, sorry | 09:04 |
| kklimonda | rodrigo_: I'll use it to finish _execute_query part | 09:05 |
| robert_ancell | rodrigo_, hey, I still can't install libgnome-media-dev in natty (with gnome3-builds PPA) | 09:18 |
| Zdra | seb128, FYI libgcr is missing a dep on libgck for the gnome-keyring package in gnome3-build | 09:25 |
| Zdra | seb128, hm, the binary has the dep, but not the -dev package | 09:26 |
| Zdra | also, it is unfortunate that gnome-keyring-3 is not // installable with version2 | 09:28 |
| kklimonda | seb128: I've prepared an update for glibmm to 2.27.3 (requested a merge: https://code.launchpad.net/~kklimonda/glibmm2.4/packaging/+merge/41428) and also fixed the issues with atkmm1.6 you had and updated it to 2.22.1 which ships the missing license file. | 09:28 |
| Zdra | that makes all apps linked on the -2 fail | 09:28 |
| Zdra | seb128, also, I can't start the daemon: | 09:33 |
| Zdra | $ gnome-keyring-daemon -s | 09:33 |
| Zdra | ** Message: couldn't connect to control socket at: /tmp/keyring-Gtstrz/control: Connexion refusée | 09:33 |
| Zdra | any idea what's going on? | 09:34 |
| seb128 | Zdra, hey | 09:37 |
| seb128 | Zdra, you should ask rodrigo when he joins | 09:37 |
| seb128 | he worked on gnome-keyring3 | 09:37 |
| seb128 | kklimonda, hey | 09:37 |
| seb128 | kklimonda, ok great, I will sponsor that today | 09:37 |
| seb128 | Zdra, theorically the libraries should be installable at the same time and you need only 1 gnome-keyring service runnin | 09:38 |
| seb128 | you might need to restart your session with the new one though | 09:38 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, ca va? | 09:38 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 09:39 |
| seb128 | oui, et toi ? | 09:39 |
| Zdra | seb128, I have no keyring service running :( | 09:39 |
| Zdra | because the one from new package does not start | 09:40 |
| Zdra | seb128, you uploaded that package in ppa, so I though you were the one to ask... I'll ping rodrigo then :) | 09:40 |
| Zdra | (Hm, no, just can't ready ppa page, you did gnome-desktop3, not keyring) | 09:41 |
| Zdra | sorry :) | 09:41 |
| seb128 | no worry ;-) | 09:41 |
| seb128 | I've not tried or reviewed gnome-keyring3 yet | 09:41 |
| seb128 | so I can't really comment | 09:41 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hey, do we have a clutter policy? Any opposition to updating to the latest? | 09:43 |
| seb128 | hey robert_ancell | 09:43 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, : clutter policy? | 09:43 |
| seb128 | "try to stay close to debian"? | 09:44 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I guess I'm asking why we're running an older version, perhaps due to some dx stuff? | 09:44 |
| seb128 | I think just because nobody updated it yet | 09:45 |
| didrocks | robert_ancell: hey, I would say we can even be in sync with debian and drop our patch if they were for unity (all are posted upstream anyway) | 09:45 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, is the new unity world I don't think dx uses clutter | 09:45 |
| seb128 | is -> in | 09:45 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, debian is 1.2, but the stable branch is 1.4 | 09:46 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, yes, that's what I figured | 09:46 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, debian is frozen for their next stable | 09:46 |
| seb128 | some updates go to experimental but they mostly lag behind | 09:46 |
| robert_ancell | actually, you might be able to shine some light on this, why do we have packages like clutter-1.0 and gtk2.0 that go outside 1.0.x and 2.0.x? Why aren't they called clutter-1 and gtk2 or we have gtk2.0 and gtk2.2? | 09:47 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, because gtk 2.0 and 2.2 turned to be a stable serie | 09:49 |
| seb128 | seems like historical reason at the time where the gtk2 was packaged | 09:49 |
| seb128 | gtk2 and gtk3 would have worked the same | 09:49 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, btw do you plan to land some GNOME3 components in natty? | 09:50 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, seems the things you work on at the lest likely to depend on other component | 09:50 |
| seb128 | games, calculator, ... ;-) | 09:50 |
| robert_ancell | I'm packaging the new games now, that's why I have to update clutter | 09:51 |
| robert_ancell | yeah sure, I'll push gcalctool into natty | 09:51 |
| seb128 | libclutter-1.0-0: /usr/lib/libclutter-glx-1.0.so.0 | 09:52 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, seems the clutter version just follows the upstream naming | 09:52 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, right | 09:54 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, I remember why I didn't upload gdu 2.32 | 09:58 |
| pitti | seb128: it doesn't add something significant, but it removes all the docs | 09:58 |
| pitti | I already attempted it a while ago, and it's in Debian's git | 09:58 |
| seb128 | in that a bug or wanted? | 09:58 |
| pitti | it was explicitly disabled, since it causes some trouble apparently | 09:59 |
| pitti | i. e. dropping docs wasn't an unintended side effect | 09:59 |
| pitti | it's not really "wanted" as such, of course | 09:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, was sort of issue do they have? I guess at some point we will need to update anyway | 10:03 |
| pitti | I don't know | 10:03 |
| pitti | need to ask David, but he's asleep right now | 10:03 |
| seb128 | no hurry | 10:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, did we backport http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-disk-utility/commit/?id=e3ae27c89d66c683b4a37d40df290d0a0cd0aed1? | 10:04 |
| pitti | I don't think so | 10:05 |
| seb128 | I think it's the only commit interesting in 2.32 | 10:05 |
| seb128 | well out of tons of translation updates and some gtk cleaning | 10:05 |
| pitti | seb128: I keep this on my todo list | 10:05 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 10:05 |
| pitti | I'll eventually upload 32 to natty | 10:05 |
| pitti | but it's in no hurry I think | 10:05 |
| seb128 | no it's not, I was just wondering if there was a reason to stay behind when the update seems only that crash fix, translation updates and build cleanly with recent gtk versions | 10:06 |
| seb128 | we are still on the "clean merges and catch up with versions" | 10:06 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 10:18 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson, how are you? had a nice weekend? | 10:19 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti - yeah, i'm good thanks. we had a lot of family and friends around on saturday for my daughters birthday, so it was pretty hectic | 10:20 |
| chrisccoulson | did you have a good weekend? | 10:20 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 10:20 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128, how are you? | 10:20 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: yes, pretty calm; my wife needs to learn for her exams, so I spent it between cleaning the flat, visiting my grandma, meeting some friends, and watching Big Bang Theory :) | 10:21 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I'm fine thanks | 10:21 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it seems you had a nice we ;-) | 10:21 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - what exams does your wife need to sit? | 10:21 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, it wasn't too bad. had a lot of cleaning up to do on sunday though | 10:22 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: final exams for her geoinformation/surveying studies | 10:22 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: tomorrow is Photogrammetry and Laser Scanning | 10:22 |
| chrisccoulson | cool! it sounds intense ;) | 10:22 |
| didrocks | 9hey chrisccoulson! Nice week-end for you it seems :) | 10:27 |
| chrisccoulson | hey didrocks - yeah, pretty busy though | 10:27 |
| chrisccoulson | how about you? | 10:27 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: nice and sunny. Didn't see a real sunny day for a long time before (maybe Florida was the last time? :)) | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, that's the same here too! | 10:30 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - do you know what we are doing with yelp this cycle? are we going to stick with the current (gecko-based) version, or take the new version instead? | 10:31 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, not sure yet | 10:31 |
| seb128 | but seems we lean toward getting the new one | 10:31 |
| seb128 | it's in GNOME3 ppa | 10:31 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell is working on it | 10:32 |
| seb128 | it need webkit gtk3 though | 10:32 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - ah, ok. i wasn't sure whether to spend time porting the current version to gecko 2.0 or not (i want to get everything in main ported this week really) | 10:32 |
| seb128 | which is fine out of the fact that I'm not sure pitti will like 2 webkit on the CD | 10:32 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's extreme ;) | 10:32 |
| chrisccoulson | what else uses webkit? | 10:32 |
| pitti | seb128: well, it's not about me personally -- we are currently 30 MB oversized, and everything we add needs to be compensated | 10:33 |
| pitti | so, two webkits really sound like a bad idea indeed | 10:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, it was just a way to point the CD space consideration | 10:34 |
| chrisccoulson | well, it's probably either going to be 2 webkits, or 1 webkit + 1 gecko | 10:34 |
| didrocks | (and banshee tomorrow in the seed? + unity on wednesday… urgh…) | 10:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, s-c I guess | 10:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, empathy as well | 10:35 |
| seb128 | shotwell | 10:35 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok. that's quite a few things then | 10:35 |
| seb128 | rhythmbox | 10:35 |
| seb128 | yes... | 10:35 |
| chrisccoulson | do we know how much space xulrunner takes on the CD compared to webkit? | 10:36 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti^^ | 10:36 |
| seb128 | not sure if we can get to use gtk2 rather than gtk3 for the update | 10:36 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, isn't xul need by couchdb? | 10:36 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, chrisccoulson, why do we need two webkits? | 10:36 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, gtk2 and gtk3? | 10:36 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, but what uses -gtk2 on the CD? | 10:36 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, software-center, rhythmbox, empathy | 10:37 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - couchdb is only using spidermonkey. if we used the new yelp, then i'd probably spend some time to split the packaging so we only pull in the bits we need | 10:37 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, shotwell | 10:37 |
| rodrigo_ | hello? | 10:37 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, hey | 10:37 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, back online it seems!! | 10:37 |
| chrisccoulson | hi robert_ancell | 10:37 |
| rodrigo_ | hi seb128 | 10:37 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, damn | 10:37 |
| didrocks | hey rodrigo_ | 10:37 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: xulrunner: 10 MB, libwebkit: ~ 6 MB | 10:38 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: i. e. if we can actually drop xulrunner with the new webkit, it's a net win | 10:38 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, hey | 10:38 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, sorry, not sure if you told me something, my connection dropped | 10:38 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, do you know if we could build using gtk2 instead of gtk3? | 10:38 |
| rodrigo_ | hi didrocks, robert_ancell | 10:38 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - nice. so, it we make an assumption that spidermonkey is around ~2.5MB of that 10MB, then we get a small win | 10:39 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, Zdra has comments on the gnome-keyring update | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | (based on the fact we'd need to keep spidermonkey) | 10:39 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, some missing depends and the daemon not running | 10:39 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok | 10:39 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, ping | 10:39 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: how does yelp+webkit hold up wrt. a11y? | 10:39 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I guess it's possible. It would be a non-trivial patch though | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i'm not too sure, that's partly why i asked the original question | 10:39 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, pong | 10:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, you have been Cc-ed onthose emails | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | i wasn't sure if a11y was still a blocker for going to the new version | 10:39 |
| seb128 | pitti, I started a discussion specifically about that last week | 10:39 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, I'm using your gnome-keyring 3 package from gnome3-build package | 10:40 |
| Zdra | my observations: | 10:40 |
| Zdra | 1) libgcr-dev miss a dep on libgck-dev | 10:40 |
| pitti | seb128: right, and there wasn't an obvious "this is ok now" conclusion there | 10:40 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, pitti: we pretty much decided that better having an useful version with limited a11y than a slow and useless version | 10:40 |
| pitti | ok, good to know | 10:40 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, oh, ok | 10:40 |
| seb128 | ups, "is better" | 10:41 |
| Zdra | 2) gnome-keyring-daemon does not start: $ gnome-keyring-daemon -s | 10:41 |
| Zdra | ** Message: couldn't connect to control socket at: /tmp/keyring-s6Zqfv/control: Connection refused | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, i'd prefer that too, especially seeing as i'm pretty much on my own with getting the current version working with the latest gecko | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess nobody else is going to try and make that work | 10:41 |
| seb128 | the gecko version is slow and the documentation format is suboptimal | 10:41 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, let's not spend efforts with that then | 10:41 |
| Zdra | 3) all apps linked on libgcr does not start anymore, because it is not // installed. For example: $ seahorse | 10:41 |
| Zdra | seahorse: error while loading shared libraries: libgcr.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 10:41 |
| seb128 | let's rather get the new version in using gtk3 and see later on what to do if we need space | 10:42 |
| robert_ancell | sure | 10:42 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, that's it :) | 10:42 |
| seb128 | Zdra, rodrigo_: that seems a real issue in the way g-k has been packaged | 10:42 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, hmm, is the daemon already running when you start it again? it is running ok here | 10:42 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, i'll leave yelp off my list of things to do then, and add splitting the xulunner package to my list of things to do instead | 10:42 |
| seb128 | why did libgcr0 go away? | 10:42 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, great | 10:42 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, ps aux | grep keyring --> that returns nothing | 10:42 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, it didn't go away | 10:43 |
| rodrigo_ | it's renamed though | 10:43 |
| rodrigo_ | it's not libgcr-3 | 10:43 |
| rodrigo_ | I guess we should rename the package also | 10:43 |
| Zdra | shouldn't it be libgcr3 ? | 10:44 |
| Zdra | yeah, or -3 | 10:44 |
| Zdra | oh, .so file indeed has that -3, so it really seems to only be a matter of renaming the package to get it in // of version2 | 10:45 |
| rodrigo_ | libgcr3 implies that 3's the .so version of the lib, so -3 sounds better, right? | 10:45 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, but why " seahorse: error while loading shared libraries: libgcr.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" | 10:45 |
| rodrigo_ | although the .so version is the same | 10:45 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, that's a packaging screwing | 10:45 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, it's called now libgcr-3.so* | 10:46 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, libgcr0 whould still be on disk | 10:46 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you can't do that | 10:46 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, that's the lib name from upstream | 10:46 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you should have libgcr0 and libgcr3 on disk | 10:46 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well the old binary should be installed with the old name | 10:46 |
| seb128 | as long as thing depends on it | 10:46 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, needs renaming to libgcr0-3 or libgcr3 | 10:46 |
| rodrigo_ | which one? | 10:46 |
| seb128 | libgcr-3-0 | 10:47 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 10:47 |
| seb128 | what is the .so name? | 10:47 |
| seb128 | libgcr-3.so.0 | 10:47 |
| seb128 | ? | 10:47 |
| rodrigo_ | .0 | 10:47 |
| rodrigo_ | yes | 10:47 |
| seb128 | ok | 10:47 |
| seb128 | so libgcr-3-0 | 10:47 |
| seb128 | libgcr-3-0 for the binary | 10:48 |
| seb128 | but shouldn't g-k build both versions? | 10:48 |
| seb128 | or do you have a new source? | 10:48 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, chrisccoulson, pitti: some work that could bring space.. | 10:48 |
| rodrigo_ | it's a new source | 10:48 |
| seb128 | convert gnome-system-monitor from gtkmm to vala or other | 10:48 |
| seb128 | it's the only thing keeping gtkmm on the CD | 10:49 |
| pitti | oh, interesting | 10:49 |
| chrisccoulson | is anybody working on gnome-system-monitor upstream? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | no | 10:49 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, i didn't think so | 10:49 |
| seb128 | or find another software in universe to replace it | 10:49 |
| seb128 | g-s-m is not great in any case | 10:50 |
| smspillaz | (on the topic of glibmm, here's the test code for compiz http://git.compiz.org/~dbo/compiz-with-glib-mainloop/log/?h=glibmm-experimental) | 10:52 |
| seb128 | ok, glibmm and pangomm are small | 10:53 |
| seb128 | the main win would be gtkmm | 10:53 |
| seb128 | I guess we can keep glibmm | 10:53 |
| seb128 | smspillaz, ^ | 10:53 |
| robert_ancell | later all | 10:53 |
| rodrigo_ | later robert_ancell | 10:54 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, bye | 10:54 |
| smspillaz | seb128: cool | 10:54 |
| kklimonda | 10:05 kklimonda | rodrigo_: I'll use it (the branch) to finish _execute_query part of the merge - i.e. add _execute_query and port all other code to use it | 10:55 |
| smspillaz | later | 10:55 |
| rodrigo_ | kklimonda, ah, ok | 10:56 |
| seb128 | smspillaz, bye | 10:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you want to take a wi on your cd spec about figuring a way to replace g-s-m or port it to non gtkmm rather? | 10:56 |
| pitti | seb128: sounds fine | 10:56 |
| seb128 | ok, great | 10:57 |
| * pitti changes | 10:57 | |
| pitti | RAOF: do you plan to upload the dynamically linked mesa soon? that should help a lot with the current 30 MB oversizedness | 10:57 |
| pitti | I did a few uploads to reduce changelogs, but they should only gain some 1.5 MB | 10:58 |
| seb128 | do we have langpacks to drop for a1 if needed? | 10:59 |
| pitti | some | 11:00 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, so about my issue with starting gnome-keyring-daemon, any idea? | 11:05 |
| Zdra | I see in /tmp a looot of dir like keyring-XXXX | 11:05 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, only thing that I can think of is some leftover file from a previous keyring daemon, that confuses it | 11:05 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, you have tried it with a clean /tmp? | 11:06 |
| Zdra | yep tried with a clean keyring | 11:06 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, then that can't be | 11:06 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, note that with clean /tmp the error is slightly different: | 11:07 |
| Zdra | $ gnome-keyring-daemon -s | 11:07 |
| Zdra | ** Message: couldn't access conrol socket: /tmp/keyring-s6Zqfv/control: No such file or directory | 11:07 |
| Zdra | wondering who is supposed to create that file | 11:07 |
| rodrigo_ | and without the clean /tmp, what message is it? | 11:07 |
| rodrigo_ | I think it's the daemon itself, let me check | 11:07 |
| bigon | Zdra: did you check the permission of /tmp ? | 11:07 |
| bigon | ls -ald /tmp | 11:07 |
| Zdra | ** Message: couldn't connect to control socket at: /tmp/keyring-s6Zqfv/control: Connection refused | 11:07 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, ^ | 11:08 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, ok | 11:08 |
| Zdra | bigon, of course my /tmp is writable | 11:08 |
| Zdra | just that "something" created /tmp/keyring-s6Zqfv/control before and that file isn't readable for keyring-daemon | 11:08 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: do you remember the slow launchpad bug we discussed extensively last March? still happens with firefox 3 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/223238 | 11:09 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 223238 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24 (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Extremely slow Ajax/Javascript/CSS performance in Firefox 3 using non-free nvidia-glx-new (affects: 20) (dups: 4) (heat: 147)" [Undecided,New] | 11:09 |
| didrocks | (it's happening in both vesa and nvidia driver) | 11:09 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, i remember that. i don't remember what the outcome of the discussion was though | 11:11 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, http://mandriva.598463.n5.nabble.com/Bug-61599-gnome-keyring-NEW-keyring-does-not-start-td3256029.html | 11:11 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, it suggest to use glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas | 11:12 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, can you try? | 11:12 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you install the schemas? | 11:12 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: well, launchpad guy tells it's a Firefox bug not handling properly transparency and duplicated icons (looks at the duplicate) | 11:13 |
| seb128 | it could be that you didn't update the binary to ship it? | 11:13 |
| rodrigo_ | maybe | 11:13 |
| rodrigo_ | but it's working for me, so not sure | 11:13 |
| rodrigo_ | checking | 11:13 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: can you try to push that upstream? I see a lot of duplicate googling for "launchpad slow firefox nvidia" which aren't related to download page time but rather rendering | 11:13 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: it affects some other websites as well | 11:14 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, i'll have a look at that in a bit | 11:14 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: thanks :) | 11:14 |
| rodrigo_ | oh, right, it's working for me because I have the old version, the version in the PPA doesn't show up on the updates!! | 11:14 |
| rodrigo_ | right, seems it's missing the schemas indeed | 11:15 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, fixing and building locally to fully test it, will upload as soon as it works | 11:16 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, let me restart my session and see if the trick worked :) | 11:16 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, it won't I think, we don't have the schemas in the g-k package | 11:16 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, rename the library while you are at it | 11:17 |
| seb128 | Zdra, you will want to reinstall the official libgcr0 | 11:17 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, fixing all the issues Zdra raised | 11:17 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, I will review your ppa uploads today | 11:17 |
| seb128 | I started on gnome-media the other day | 11:17 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok, coolk | 11:17 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, they're all on the ubuntugtk3 branches | 11:18 |
| seb128 | I think some reviews will be useful | 11:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok | 11:18 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, seb128: ok | 11:18 |
| * rodrigo_ build packages | 11:19 | |
| Zdra | will try again when new pacakge is in ppa | 11:19 |
| Zdra | thanks :D | 11:19 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Natty/Firefox4/XULRunner20Transition is a nice list of things to work through | 12:01 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, ok, seems to work, you want to build it locally to make sure or just wait for it to be in the PPA? | 12:02 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, I don't really have much time atm, so I'll be lazy and wait for ppa :) | 12:03 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, ok, uploading then | 12:03 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, thanks :) | 12:03 |
| didrocks | session restat, brb | 12:12 |
| didrocks | restart* | 12:12 |
| === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away | ||
| didrocks | bah, firefox + launchpad is just unusable here… | 12:20 |
| * didrocks switches back to chromium | 12:21 | |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| nisshh | didrocks, hey, do you know if FF 4.0 is going to land in natty? or will old 3.6 be used? | 12:25 |
| didrocks | nisshh: FF 4beta7 is already in natty | 12:25 |
| nisshh | oh coolies | 12:25 |
| seb128 | didrocks, get a decent video card ;-) | 12:32 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, nvidia is nice TBH, I didn't get any issue for compiz/mutter unlike other cards :p | 12:32 |
| seb128 | I don't have any issue with compiz on intel | 12:33 |
| didrocks | just that a launchpad page makes 4-6 seconds to refresh… | 12:33 |
| seb128 | "just" | 12:33 |
| nisshh | heh, i dont want to try compiz unity on my intel IGP :) | 12:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, working well with chromium | 12:33 |
| nisshh | seb128, really? | 12:33 |
| seb128 | nisshh, yes, why not? | 12:33 |
| seb128 | I've been using compiz on intel for like 5 years | 12:34 |
| nisshh | seb128, my intel graphics are from 2003 :) | 12:34 |
| seb128 | on different cards, without any issue | 12:34 |
| nisshh | oh, compiz is not the issue | 12:34 |
| nisshh | compiz + unity might be :) | 12:34 |
| seb128 | oh right, I didn't try that yet | 12:34 |
| nisshh | the mutter version of compiz ran rather slow on my machine | 12:34 |
| nisshh | yeah | 12:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks, bug #580295 doesn't seem to be a compiz bug | 12:42 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 580295 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Alt-F2 not working (affects: 44) (dups: 2) (heat: 254)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/580295 | 12:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you just need to have a running software handling the keybinding | 12:42 |
| didrocks | seb128: that's what I'm telling in my latest comment, where did you see I'm telling it's a compiz bug? | 12:43 |
| didrocks | seb128: we can tell to compiz "run that on alt+F2" | 12:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, by reading sam's comment ;-) | 12:43 |
| didrocks | so, not mine :) | 12:43 |
| seb128 | I just didn't understand your reply | 12:43 |
| didrocks | just telling that the workaround sam mentionned works today as there is gnome-panel running, but it won't work when gnome-panel won't be there anymore | 12:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, isn't that just a matter to have unity handle the keybinding the way gnome-panel is doing it? | 12:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you want a new application only for that? | 12:44 |
| didrocks | no, it will be compiz which will handle the shortcut, we just have to teach it to not rely only on gnome-panel | 12:44 |
| seb128 | didrocks, wouldn't it make sense to have it in unity? | 12:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: that was what we discussed at UDS | 12:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: not part of unity, apparently | 12:45 |
| didrocks | not sure why, ask mr Patel :) | 12:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, such bugs would benefit from reference to specs or uds notes | 12:45 |
| seb128 | reference like url | 12:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure, but the note wasn't taken IIRC | 12:46 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, is LP down | 12:46 |
| rodrigo_ | ? | 12:46 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, works here | 12:46 |
| didrocks | not sure we should discuss that extensively, just do the work :) | 12:46 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, seems it's not your day for internet ;-) | 12:46 |
| rodrigo_ | no :( | 12:46 |
| seb128 | didrocks, right, I'm just concerned about adding a new binary or source for such a small thing | 12:46 |
| seb128 | seems work over what it's worth | 12:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, the binary can be added to unity package… | 12:47 |
| seb128 | or rather seems it would be easier to teach the unity-panel to do it | 12:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, I will let njpatel handle that and comment when it's done if I've issue they way it's done ;-) | 12:48 |
| didrocks | seb128: right :) | 12:48 |
| njpatel | what's up | 12:48 |
| njpatel | run dialog? | 12:48 |
| seb128 | njpatel, just wondering about the run dialog being "dedicated app will be needed." | 12:48 |
| njpatel | if we use the gnome-panel one | 12:49 |
| njpatel | I might just rip the code out | 12:49 |
| njpatel | the backing code, and stick and unity front-end on it | 12:49 |
| njpatel | should be do-able, just haven't had the time | 12:49 |
| seb128 | njpatel, so it will be in unity source right? | 12:49 |
| seb128 | njpatel, not a new source? | 12:49 |
| njpatel | yeah, i think that's what we'll do. didrocks and I spoke about ripping out the gnome-panel one into it's own source, but I think we can do better than that through unity itself | 12:50 |
| seb128 | njpatel, ok great, I just wanted to mention that I think it's not worth the work of being a different source | 12:50 |
| didrocks | well, there are bigger fish now than that issue TBH :) | 12:50 |
| njpatel | yep | 12:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, right, doesn't prevent to comment on bugs though | 12:51 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, Unpacking libgcr-3-0 (from .../libgcr-3-0_2.92.92.is.2.91.2-0ubuntu2~build1_amd64.deb) ... | 12:51 |
| Zdra | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgcr-3-0_2.92.92.is.2.91.2-0ubuntu2~build1_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 12:51 |
| Zdra | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/gcr-3/ui/gcr-unlock-options-widget.ui', which is also in package libgcr0 2.92.92.is.2.91.2-0ubuntu1 | 12:51 |
| seb128 | didrocks, but anyway I was just wondering about that, we discussed it enough and I had my reply so let's move on | 12:51 |
| didrocks | agreed :) | 12:52 |
| seb128 | Zdra, I told you that you needed to reinstall the libgcr0 for ubuntu | 12:52 |
| seb128 | or "from ubuntu" rather | 12:52 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, yes, you have the previous wrong libgcr0, install the official one | 12:52 |
| seb128 | Zdra, the official one | 12:52 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, 2.92.92.is.2.31.x... | 12:52 |
| seb128 | Zdra, sudo apt-get install libgrc0/natty | 12:52 |
| seb128 | or maverick if you use that version | 12:52 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, yay all working fine \o/ | 13:03 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, cool | 13:03 |
| Zdra | thanks | 13:03 |
| rodrigo_ | I see an issue here though with bzr ssh auth, not sure if related | 13:03 |
| rodrigo_ | that doesn't use the keyring at all, right? | 13:03 |
| Zdra | rodrigo_, I don't use bzr | 13:04 |
| rodrigo_ | Zdra, ok, no problem for you then :) | 13:04 |
| Zdra | but git works fine with ssh repositories, it's not even asking for the key password | 13:04 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, well the ssh agent is in g-k | 13:05 |
| rodrigo_ | right, so that's been broken then | 13:07 |
| * rodrigo_ investigates | 13:07 | |
| seb128 | brb | 13:14 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow| | ||
| === MacSlow| is now known as MacSlow | ||
| cyphermox | good morning! | 13:49 |
| mvo | hey cyphermox! good morning | 13:50 |
| mvo | cyphermox: had a good weekend ? :) | 13:50 |
| cyphermox | hey mvo. yup. finished up half-life 2 :) | 13:51 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i've just pushed a change to desktop-file-utils. would you mind sponsoring that? | 13:53 |
| ari-tczew | I also need sponsoring, for gnome-settings-daemon in main | 13:53 |
| ari-tczew | :) | 13:53 |
| === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan | ||
| mvo | cyphermox: haha, nice! | 13:54 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - people might think there is a conspiracy with the changelog entry though ;) | 13:55 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, hey | 13:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, there is no hurry for that to be uploaded right? | 13:57 |
| seb128 | since firefox is the only one providing those mimetype so far | 13:57 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - no, that can be uploaded whenever really. there's no hurry for that | 13:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I wanted to review handlers for other applications today | 13:57 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, I will upload when I've reviewed other handlers then | 13:58 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 13:58 |
| seb128 | you're welcome | 13:58 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey | 14:00 |
| seb128 | pedro_, ola | 14:04 |
| mterry | seb128, hello! | 14:05 |
| seb128 | mterry, how are you? | 14:06 |
| seb128 | mterry, had a nice we? ;-) | 14:06 |
| pitti | hey mterry | 14:06 |
| didrocks | hey cyphermox, mterry | 14:06 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah, it was good. Saw the new Harry Potter :) | 14:06 |
| mterry | pitti, didrocks: hello! | 14:06 |
| pitti | seb128: Jani raised a good point: gparted uses gtkmm, so dropping g-s-monitor won't help CD space wise | 14:07 |
| didrocks | cyphermox: did you ping upstream again to review your evolution patch? did you get feedback? | 14:07 |
| pedro_ | hello seb128 | 14:07 |
| pitti | cyphermox: hello, how are you? had a good weekend? | 14:07 |
| pitti | cyphermox: do you plan to merge fontconfig? (not urgent, just want to know if "at all") | 14:08 |
| didrocks | hey pedro_ | 14:08 |
| pedro_ | salut didrocks | 14:08 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh right, I ran the rdepends on an installed system not on the livecd | 14:09 |
| mvo | hey mterry | 14:09 |
| seb128 | mterry, nice, how was it? ;-) | 14:09 |
| mterry | hi | 14:09 |
| mterry | seb128, was a very good rendition of the (first half of) the book. So if you liked the books, you'd like the movie. | 14:10 |
| seb128 | great | 14:10 |
| seb128 | pedro_, bug #678201 you might want to upstream if you get the issue | 14:11 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 678201 in librsvg (Ubuntu) "nautlius lockup with jpg-named svgs referring to svgs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678201 | 14:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, do you have enough tasks to keep busy? ;-) | 14:11 |
| pedro_ | seb128, ok, looking at it | 14:12 |
| * pedro_ going crazy with mago test cases | 14:12 | |
| seb128 | pedro_, oh, how is mago working for you? | 14:13 |
| cyphermox | pitti, I hadn't planned about it, but it's a good point, needs to be done (I can get to it a little later today, but I will need sponsoring) | 14:14 |
| cyphermox | didrocks, pinging now, I hadn't but it would be good | 14:14 |
| pedro_ | seb128, it is working fine here. we are writing test cases with it for testing natty apps | 14:14 |
| ari-tczew | didrocks: could you sponsor SRU for me? :) | 14:14 |
| pitti | cyphermox: ah, I can help out with sponsoring | 14:14 |
| cyphermox | thx | 14:15 |
| didrocks | ari-tczew: not today, but #ubuntu-devel has a patch pilot to review your patch :) | 14:15 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, you seem to be motivated which is nice but there is no need to keep pinging on IRC for sponsoring | 14:16 |
| ari-tczew | patch pilot? wtf | 14:16 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, there is a sponsoring queue and people work on it when they have time | 14:16 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah for now | 14:16 |
| seb128 | ari-tczew, the IRC pinging doesn't free time so are not really useful, and as didrocks pointed there is a patch pilot doing review every day now | 14:16 |
| ari-tczew | seb128: heh, I looked on #ubuntu-motu and they told me that ubuntu desktop team should upload this one, so I'm asking... please don't dispose me | 14:17 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, shame :p | 14:17 |
| mterry | heh | 14:17 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey | 14:17 |
| seb128 | bug #678201 | 14:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 678201 in librsvg (Ubuntu) "nautlius lockup with jpg-named svgs referring to svgs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678201 | 14:18 |
| seb128 | mvo, ^ seems ari-tczew would like to have this reviewed,sponsored | 14:18 |
| seb128 | ups | 14:18 |
| seb128 | bug #626379 | 14:18 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 626379 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "gnome-settings-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch() (affects: 5) (dups: 1) (heat: 48)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/626379 | 14:18 |
| seb128 | mvo, ^ that one rather | 14:18 |
| * seb128 kicks linux copy | 14:18 | |
| seb128 | ok, so tasks that need to be picked | 14:19 |
| seb128 | - the appmenu-gtk source should probably have a gtk3 build | 14:19 |
| seb128 | mterry, ^ still pointing it for the day you are done with your current tasks and if nobody claim it before you | 14:20 |
| seb128 | otherwise glade-3 would be nice to update to 3.7 | 14:20 |
| jcastro | hi didrocks - I found a problem this weekend that I think we should fix before you switch to unity by default. If you're on a laptop and in unity there's no way to graphically use the network. | 14:20 |
| cyphermox | seb128, glade-3 I could do | 14:20 |
| seb128 | jcastro, hey | 14:20 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, ok, so it's yours | 14:20 |
| jcastro | didrocks: so I was thinking perhaps some instructions on how to use nm-cli or something? | 14:20 |
| didrocks | jcastro: yeah, bug already logged IIRC | 14:21 |
| cyphermox | I already did some amounts of that work trying to fix something for synaptic by a newer glade | 14:21 |
| jcastro | didrocks: that we can go ahead and announce with it | 14:21 |
| didrocks | jcastro: can you raise that on #ayatana? | 14:21 |
| jcastro | ok | 14:21 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, the startup notification is broken on firefox, is that known? | 14:23 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - no, i didn't know that before | 14:24 |
| seb128 | the same way it was broken before lucid | 14:24 |
| seb128 | it seems to be back in the new firefox | 14:24 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how do you start it? | 14:25 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I always get a "starting firefox" task in the wnck applet there | 14:25 |
| seb128 | which stays until timeout | 14:25 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i use docky, so i don't get the startup notification anyway | 14:25 |
| chrisccoulson | but | 14:25 |
| chrisccoulson | i can see why it doesn't work already ;) | 14:25 |
| seb128 | great ;-) | 14:26 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, no hurry you don't have to fix it now, in an hour will do | 14:26 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 14:26 |
| seb128 | didrocks, you have an e-d-s and an evo bug assigned to you | 14:28 |
| seb128 | those are upstream patches backport requests that brian opened | 14:28 |
| seb128 | didrocks, could you or cyphermox try to get that in the sru queue? | 14:28 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, re: empathy 2.32.2. I am going to get it done, i forgot to assign myself to it. | 14:28 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, hey, thanks! | 14:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-4.0.head/revision/702 | 14:29 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, no hurry the previous upload still need some days before going through | 14:29 |
| didrocks | seb128: for maverick SRU | 14:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, you real master firefox now ;-) | 14:29 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 14:29 |
| didrocks | seb128: I won't have time, really… | 14:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, thanks! | 14:29 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well that's sort of why I pinged there including cyphermox | 14:30 |
| didrocks | and yeah, I saw that in the week-end in my bug log :) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks, he can maybe do the update and you can do the upload? | 14:30 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, im having one issue , a patch fails (20_libindicate), so i go bzr bd-do to quilt push -f and the first one fails.. Maybe I'm doing something wrong | 14:30 |
| cyphermox | seb128, didrocks, fair enough, just added it to my list for today | 14:30 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, it might need to be updated for the new version | 14:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: sure… | 14:30 |
| seb128 | didrocks, cyphermox: thanks | 14:31 |
| didrocks | I would rather we can get evolution 2.32 in natty… but if upstream doesn't respond, I'll try it there and include as a distro patch (as it's migration stuff, we can miss something) | 14:31 |
| cyphermox | didrocks, it's a very minimal patch too | 14:31 |
| nerd_bloke | clear | 14:34 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, the patch be updated? I am trying to update it by pushing the previous ones with quilt push -f , i will fix the bad patch, add it, then refresh the patch and try the build again.. but the quilt push -f fails now on the very first patch | 14:35 |
| bcurtiswx | instead on the bzr bd when it failed on the 5th patch in | 14:36 |
| nerd_bloke | Would the following bug be suitable for a papercut? It is basic functionality of Launchpad, not the desktop: | 14:36 |
| nerd_bloke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/68277 | 14:36 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 68277 in malone ""newest first" doesn't sort bugs correctly (affects: 1)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:36 |
| bcurtiswx | nerd_bloke, no. We're focused on ubuntu bugs, not LP ones | 14:37 |
| cyphermox | nerd_bloke, I think this question goes better in #launchpad, and since it's launchpad, probably not so much in context for the papercut project | 14:37 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, when do you run the quilt command? | 14:37 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, you probably want to bzr bd-do then quilt push | 14:37 |
| bcurtiswx | bzr bd-do then i quilt push | 14:38 |
| nerd_bloke | cyphermox: thanks | 14:38 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, can you pastebin the error you get? | 14:38 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, sure | 14:38 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, for the bzr bd , this http://paste.ubuntu.com/535215/ is the log where the error happens.. my next paste will be the bzr bd -do | 14:41 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, http://paste.ubuntu.com/535216/ | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | hey seb128 | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | did you see my gtk patches? | 14:43 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, did you export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches? | 14:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey, I saw your upload and your failed gtk3 upload yes | 14:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, does that fix the dbusmenu build? | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gtk/ubuntugtk3 | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | yeah, mind sponsoring that? | 14:44 |
| bcurtiswx | no, is there a way to save that so I don't have to every time? | 14:44 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, ^^ | 14:44 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I will do | 14:44 |
| kenvandine | that at least fixes dbusmenu failures outside of dbusmenu | 14:44 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, set it in your .profile or something? | 14:44 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, .bashrc ? | 14:45 |
| bilalakhtar | kenvandine: So you didn't become core-dev? why? lack of votes? | 14:46 |
| bilalakhtar | or lack of voters? | 14:46 |
| kenvandine | lack of voters | 14:46 |
| kenvandine | doing it via email | 14:46 |
| bilalakhtar | hmm | 14:47 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, OK, got it. seems bzr bd doesn't catch fuzz while doing it manually catched fuzz | 14:47 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, should work | 14:47 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, right, the new source format doesn't like fuzzy diffs | 14:47 |
| kenvandine | 2 did abstain though, they feel like there is a problem with package sets, maybe not inclusive enough | 14:47 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, is it going to "like fuzz" in the future? | 14:48 |
| seb128 | dunno | 14:48 |
| seb128 | I think it might do it on purpose and not as a bugg | 14:48 |
| seb128 | bu | 14:48 |
| seb128 | bug | 14:48 |
| seb128 | to force you to refresh the changesets | 14:49 |
| seb128 | the fuzzy stat can introduce bugs sometime | 14:49 |
| seb128 | it might happen that it applies to the wrong part of the code | 14:49 |
| seb128 | if different parts are similar | 14:49 |
| seb128 | so it's usually better to refresh the changesets | 14:49 |
| bcurtiswx | seb128, OK. now that i added the export I should be able to get these quicker | 14:49 |
| seb128 | right | 14:50 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, fixed the keyring+ssh/gpg problem | 14:54 |
| rodrigo_ | an easy one fortunately :) | 14:54 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, what was it? | 14:55 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, missing a renamed binary, so /usr/lib/gnome-keyring/gnome-keyring-prompt links to that gnome-keyring-prompt-3-0, which wasn't on the package | 14:55 |
| rodrigo_ | is there any way to raise warnings when some stuff installed by the upstream tarball is not in any .install file? | 14:56 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you could run dh_install --list-missing | 14:57 |
| seb128 | in the build directory after build | 14:57 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ah, cool | 14:59 |
| asac | everyone: tomorrow 1500 UTC is public multimedia plan review https://wiki.linaro.org/Releases/1105/PublicPlanReview ... note down in your calendar, send delegates, join #linaro-meeting and dial in!! thanks for your interest | 15:11 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, the packages in the gnome3 ppa don't show up in updates | 15:21 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, what updates? | 15:22 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, the latest g-c-c for instance | 15:22 |
| rodrigo_ | I can't apt-get upgrade | 15:22 |
| rodrigo_ | it | 15:22 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, can you run "sudo apt-get update; apt-cache policy gnome-control-center" | 15:23 |
| rodrigo_ | g-s-d 2.91.3 neither | 15:23 |
| rodrigo_ | yes, already did, doesn't show up the new version | 15:23 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, can you pastebin the apt-cache policy | 15:23 |
| rodrigo_ | yes | 15:24 |
| rodrigo_ | http://pastebin.com/h868tmjJ | 15:25 |
| rodrigo_ | and the ppa has 2.91.2-0ubuntu5~build2 | 15:26 |
| rodrigo_ | I get this on update: | 15:27 |
| rodrigo_ | W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net natty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2CC98497A1231595 | 15:27 |
| rodrigo_ | but that shouldn't be a problem, right? | 15:27 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, should not no | 15:29 |
| rodrigo_ | right, I have the same issue with other ppa repos, and the upgrades show up correctly | 15:29 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, weird, can you copy the sudo apt-get update log? | 15:30 |
| rodrigo_ | which log? | 15:30 |
| Sarvatt | pitti: requesting syncs for the majority of the X drivers to save you some space in case you were planning more no change uploads :) we've been updating them in experimental | 15:30 |
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| seb128 | rodrigo_, run sudo apt-get update | 15:34 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, copy the stdout to pastebin | 15:34 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, http://pastebin.com/37iS6apb | 15:36 |
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| pitti | Sarvatt: not right now; I just went through a current natty live CD and checked for the biggest changelogs there | 15:49 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, hmm, weird, the upgrades don't show up on the virtual machine I have, but they do on my real machine | 15:50 |
| rodrigo_ | so something's wrong on the virtual machine | 15:51 |
| Laney | asac: where are we with the banshee mir? (sorry if you were pinged about this before) | 15:52 |
| asac | Laney: last i know was that we were waiting for some refactoring still ... have to re-review | 15:53 |
| Laney | I think it should be good to look at again now | 15:53 |
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| rodrigo_ | so, how do I clean apt's cache? I've used purge, etc, but it still can't see the new packages, not only on the PPA, but in the other repos also | 16:18 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ^^ | 16:18 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, the indexes you mean? | 16:19 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes | 16:19 |
| seb128 | they are in /var/lib/apt | 16:19 |
| seb128 | lists | 16:19 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 16:19 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, this reminds me of a bug in maemo's apt, which forced me to remove the indexes there a few times | 16:21 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, a lot of upgrades now! | 16:21 |
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| seb128 | rodrigo_, weird | 16:29 |
| seb128 | it's all mvo's fault ;-) | 16:29 |
| rodrigo_ | :) | 16:30 |
| seb128 | is grep-dctrl working for other people in natty? | 16:37 |
| mvo | seb128: hm? | 16:43 |
| * mvo hugs kiwinote (in absence) | 16:43 | |
| mvo | hey glatzor - nice to see you \o/ | 16:45 |
| glatzor | evening mvo! | 16:45 |
| glatzor | mvo, how are you? | 16:46 |
| and471 | heya glatzor & mvo & vish & tremolux & mpt & nessita | 16:49 |
| and471 | nessita, you free for another question re testing? | 16:49 |
| mvo | glatzor: I'm good - how are you? | 16:50 |
| tremolux | and471: hey! \o | 16:50 |
| and471 | :) | 16:50 |
| mvo | hey and471 | 16:50 |
| glatzor | mvo, a lot of work to be done - as ever ... :) | 16:50 |
| glatzor | hey and471, still in the same buisiness? | 16:50 |
| and471 | hehe, yup, lots of homework :/ | 16:51 |
| glatzor | mvo, I am off now! see you | 16:55 |
| glatzor | mvo, have a nice evening! | 16:55 |
| glatzor | greetings to you family | 16:55 |
| mvo | glatzor: thanks : | 16:56 |
| mvo | too late | 16:56 |
| pitti | good night everyone | 16:58 |
| chrisccoulson | good night pitti | 16:58 |
| mvo | good night pitti | 16:58 |
| seb128 | 'night pitti | 16:59 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, empathy has an option for --with-ca-file="" or --without-ca-file now (part of the changes).. im just guessing to use --without-ca-file because IDK where one would be.. what would you recommend | 17:00 |
| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, this is for 2.32.2 | 17:00 |
| seb128 | mvo, hm? oh, it was rodrigo_, he had to delete apt indexes manually to get apt-get update to update | 17:18 |
| mvo | seb128, rodrigo_: from /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ? | 17:18 |
| rodrigo_ | mvo, I removed all under /var/lib/apt/lists, not only /partial | 17:19 |
| seb128 | mvo, he said that apt was not seeing updates even after an apt-get update | 17:19 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, removing those files and running update again fixed it | 17:20 |
| mvo | rodrigo_: apt is using "if-modified-since", if for some reason your local timestamps got corrupted that might cause such a effect | 17:20 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, the timestamps on the files in /var/lib/apt/lists? | 17:21 |
| mvo | yes | 17:21 |
| rodrigo_ | mvo, ok, I'll check next time, this is on a virtual machine, so maybe | 17:22 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, ping | 17:22 |
| mvo | thanks rodrigo_ | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | huh, launchpad just rejected a PPA upload of mine because my local tarball has a different md5sum compared to the one already in the PPA, despite the fact I build with -sd, so there is no information about the tarball in my sources.changes | 17:46 |
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| chrisccoulson | launchpad is going to make me download the whole tarball! | 17:46 |
| chrisccoulson | :( | 17:46 |
| tkamppeter | jasoncwarner, hi | 17:47 |
| chrisccoulson | oh | 17:47 |
| chrisccoulson | it's in the .dsc. perhaps it's not a bug after all | 17:47 |
| jcastro | mterry: The latest bamf and co fixed this for me, do you still see it? bug #677559 | 17:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 677559 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Application expose mode doesn't work (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/677559 | 17:48 |
| bcurtiswx | cassidy, before --with/without-ca-file was added to empathy. would --without-ca-file been default ? | 17:50 |
| cassidy | bcurtiswx, yeah we default on Debian/Ubuntu's ca file | 17:56 |
| bcurtiswx | cassidy, so we do need one.. where's it located ? | 17:57 |
| cassidy | bcurtiswx, /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt | 17:57 |
| bcurtiswx | --with-ca-file="/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt" thanks :) | 17:58 |
| mterry | jcastro, testing | 18:18 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, pong | 18:18 |
| mterry | jcastro, didn't seem to change anything. I updated, killed bamfdaemon, and restarted unity. Anything else I shouldhave done? | 18:22 |
| jcastro | I don't think so, it seems to work fine for me (other than it missing the special effect when you move your mouse over the window you want to select) | 18:22 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, hi, so I've been looking at the python problem we talked about the other day, but have tried several things, but can't find a way to fix it for this: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-menus/2_30_5_release | 18:23 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, have to go now, but could you please have a look at it when you have time, please? | 18:23 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, really need to go now, bbl | 18:24 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, bye | 18:24 |
| mterry | didrocks1, you said you followed a wiki page instruction for the copyright format? Which wiki? Should be updated to point to latest spe | 18:27 |
| mterry | c | 18:27 |
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| didrocks | mterry: the one listed as the first line in the old copyright file | 18:27 |
| mpt | hello and471 | 18:30 |
| mterry | didrocks, oh yeah. I can't update that. :) It's an old version of the spec, before it moved to the DEP process, AFAIK | 18:31 |
| didrocks | mterry: oh ok | 18:31 |
| * hyperair pokes asac | 18:39 | |
| mterry | rodrigo_, filed merge https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/ubuntu/natty/gnome-menus/python-fix/+merge/41499 | 18:49 |
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| bcurtiswx | kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/678330 all set for SRU and sponsor | 19:16 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 678330 in empathy (Ubuntu) "Empathy 2.32.2 Stable Release Update Request (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 19:16 |
| chmrr | Anyone around who can look at merging https://code.launchpad.net/~broder/gnome-terminal/fix-37767/+merge/39887 ? | 19:58 |
| baptistemm | chmrr: why don't you make the patch reviewed by th upstream author ? | 19:59 |
| chmrr | baptisetemm: Do you mean the original author of the patch, who submitted the ubuntu bug originally, or the upstream maintainer who accepted it? | 20:17 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, my SSH key isn't being unlocked when i log in now in natty | 20:32 |
| chrisccoulson | does anyone else see that? | 20:32 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: that started happening to me in maverick | 20:36 |
| dobey | chrisccoulson: and i don't see any way in the dialog to tell it to remember the password in the keyring | 20:36 |
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| rodrigo_ | mterry, thanks! | 21:50 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, np, hope it works. Like I said, I didn't actually test it. :-/ | 21:50 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, testing it right now | 21:50 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, but it's the same code as I used to get by it | 21:50 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, yay, it built ok | 21:55 |
| rodrigo_ | checking now the .deb's | 21:55 |
| rodrigo_ | yay | 21:56 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, thanks! | 21:56 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, np | 21:57 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, if you can review -> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/natty/gnome-menus/2_30_5_release/+merge/41520 I'll upload it as soon as it's approved | 22:00 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, I don't see the debian/control change you mention in the changelog | 22:02 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, yeah, removing it from changelog, I think I edited this changelog when working on another package | 22:02 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, did control.in eat them? | 22:02 |
| mterry | ah, k | 22:02 |
| rodrigo_ | hmm, maybe | 22:02 |
| rodrigo_ | let me see | 22:02 |
| rodrigo_ | no, not really, it doesn't need to depend on that | 22:03 |
| rodrigo_ | as I said, it seems I edited this changelog when working on gnome-applets | 22:03 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, pushed the change in changelog | 22:04 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, well, then I guess I rubber-stamp it because it's basically exactly what I gave you | 22:07 |
| mterry | :) | 22:07 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, yeah, only an update in the changelog to update to 2.30.5 | 22:07 |
| rodrigo_ | hey robert_ancell | 22:08 |
| robert_ancell | rodrigo_, hey | 22:09 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, are you approving the branch, or should I just merge and upload? | 22:10 |
| mterry | rodrigo_, oh, I forgot to push the approve button | 22:15 |
| rodrigo_ | mterry, :-D | 22:15 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, hey | 23:06 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3, good evening | 23:06 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, good morning :) | 23:06 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, so, does new compiz seem really crashy to you? | 23:07 |
| robert_ancell | rickspencer3, I'm still running natty in a vm, so I haven't tried it yet. I'm thinking of updating soon though | 23:07 |
| rickspencer3 | robert_ancell, please do | 23:07 |
| rickspencer3 | I | 23:07 |
| rickspencer3 | think we're all a bit counting on you to help them get compiz ready quickly | 23:08 |
| rickspencer3 | ! | 23:08 |
| rickspencer3 | help me robert_ancell, you're our only hope | 23:08 |
| robert_ancell | heh | 23:08 |
| robert_ancell | ok, bye bye stable desktop, dist-upgrade time for me... | 23:09 |
| rickspencer3 | bye bye robert_ancell! | 23:11 |
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| chrisccoulson | robert_ancell, i can't believe you're not running natty already! | 23:14 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 23:14 |
| robert_ancell | chrisccoulson, I've been through these releases before :) | 23:14 |
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