| abuDawud | can any experienced MOTU folks just go over the basics of how they run the entire process... I don't see this anywhere on the wiki | 00:02 |
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| abuDawud | Like how do you look for a 'bug', how do you confirm its not already packaged for the requested version, how do you start the process of packaging, etc | 00:03 |
| bdrung | mr_pouit: around? | 00:10 |
| DiegoTc | hi guys | 05:54 |
| DiegoTc | I am trying to package a qt code I did | 05:54 |
| DiegoTc | actually i did it | 05:54 |
| DiegoTc | but when i installed it | 05:54 |
| DiegoTc | i can't not find it | 05:54 |
| DiegoTc | i have to search it | 05:54 |
| DiegoTc | wondering if there is a way that it creates a "shortcut on the aplication menu" | 05:54 |
| DiegoTc | someone could help me on that? | 05:59 |
| paultag | DiegoTc, look at .desktop files, check some existing code to find it. might be worthwhile to apt-get source on a few packages that install to the menu | 06:00 |
| paultag | DiegoTc, I think gedit has one, and it's a straightforward package, iirc | 06:00 |
| paultag | DiegoTc, if not, groundcontrol has a good setup | 06:00 |
| paultag | yeah, groundcontrol is better, DiegoTc | 06:02 |
| DiegoTc | okay | 06:02 |
| DiegoTc | thanks paultag | 06:02 |
| paultag | good luck, DiegoTc | 06:02 |
| DiegoTc | paultag, when I upload a package to lp it takes some minutes to update the ppa page? | 06:02 |
| paultag | BBL, futurama | 06:02 |
| paultag | DiegoTc, you'll get an email | 06:03 |
| paultag | /away | 06:03 |
| DiegoTc | jajaja | 06:03 |
| DiegoTc | it got reject it | 06:03 |
| DiegoTc | :p | 06:03 |
| mr_pouit | bdrung: yes? | 06:19 |
| kklimonda | good morning | 06:37 |
| coolbhavi | Is internet available on official buildds? | 07:00 |
| ajmitch | not at all | 07:00 |
| dholbach | good morning! | 07:04 |
| coolbhavi | good morning dholbach | 07:33 |
| dholbach | hey coolbhavi | 07:33 |
| * coolbhavi runs back to work | 07:34 | |
| bilalakhtar | dholbach: When would be a proper time to push a new update of the sponsoring overview to reports.qa.ubuntu.com? | 07:40 |
| dholbach | bilalakhtar, what do you mean? | 07:40 |
| bilalakhtar | dholbach: I mean to ask, is the sponsoring overview in trunk stable enough to replace the one already on reports.q.u.c ? | 07:41 |
| dholbach | I'm quite sure that it is | 07:41 |
| dholbach | so what's in lp:ubuntu-sponsoring should be what's available at reports.q.u.c | 07:42 |
| dholbach | Using saved parent location: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-sponsoring/trunk/ | 07:42 |
| dholbach | No revisions to pull. | 07:42 |
| dholbach | bilalakhtar, ^ | 07:42 |
| bilalakhtar | dholbach: I don't think it is | 07:43 |
| bilalakhtar | dholbach: running the sponsoring overview in trunk has a completely new look | 07:43 |
| dholbach | the message above is from the report.q.u.c | 07:43 |
| * bilalakhtar confirmes | 07:43 | |
| dholbach | what is different? | 07:44 |
| bilalakhtar | dholbach: wait a few minutes, I will telll you | 07:45 |
| bilalakhtar | I am currently running the overview from trunk | 07:45 |
| dholbach | bilalakhtar, so I just checked the local output and it looks very much the same to me | 07:56 |
| dholbach | I need to go now - I'll bbl, so let me know what you found | 07:56 |
| bilalakhtar | dholbach: thanks, mine is the same as well | 07:56 |
| dholbach | ok good :) | 07:56 |
| dholbach | phew! | 07:56 |
| bilalakhtar | sorry for the poke the | 07:56 |
| bilalakhtar | *then | 07:57 |
| dholbach | no worries | 07:57 |
| bilalakhtar | Actually an older version on trunk had a bit better look | 07:57 |
| bilalakhtar | which made me think the one in qa.u.c is old | 07:57 |
| dholbach | I really don't think the look changed in the last few months | 07:57 |
| dholbach | but if you have suggestions or want to contribute...... :) | 07:57 |
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| micahg | ebroder: good call on the source dir issue WRT mame | 08:18 |
| bilalakhtar | quadrispro: good luck with your application! | 08:44 |
| quadrispro | thank you bilalakhtar ! | 08:44 |
| hrw | hi | 10:29 |
| hrw | I have a directory with pbuilder results and there are many versions of same package. anyone has a script or other way to remove all versions other then latest one? | 10:30 |
| Rhonda | hrw: ls *.changes | tac | tail -n +2 | xargs dcmd rm | 10:33 |
| Rhonda | … this though might remove the .orig.tar.gz for your latest build too. But you should be able to fetch that again anyway. | 10:33 |
| hrw | Rhonda: thx | 10:33 |
| Rhonda | Do an "xargs dcmd echo rm" | 10:34 |
| Rhonda | … so you actually get an idea what will get done. :) | 10:34 |
| hrw | ok | 10:35 |
| StevenK | dcmd is not necessary, I think he only wants to remove them locally | 10:35 |
| Rhonda | StevenK: So? | 10:35 |
| StevenK | Oh, I thought it was something else | 10:35 |
| Rhonda | dcmd expands the .changes file to all files referenced in it | 10:36 |
| Rhonda | So it will actually remove the sources and binaries referenced within too. | 10:36 |
| bdrung | mr_pouit: i saw that you talked about syncpackage. it takes a .dsc file (from debian) and all corresponding files, creates a _source.changes file for uploading it to ubuntu. do you want to know more about it? | 11:59 |
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| bdrung | bilalakhtar: re sponsors-overview: please check if adblock-plus blocks something | 12:02 |
| bilalakhtar | bdrung: hmm? okay | 12:02 |
| bdrung | bilalakhtar: it will look different if adblock-plus blocks the css file or js file | 12:03 |
| bilalakhtar | bdrung: cool! | 12:04 |
| bilalakhtar | it worked | 12:04 |
| bilalakhtar | ! | 12:04 |
| bilalakhtar | bdrung: How did you know that? | 12:04 |
| bilalakhtar | I mean, how did you know I used adblock-plus | 12:05 |
| bdrung | bilalakhtar: because i hat to add an exception for it, too | 12:05 |
| bdrung | bilalakhtar: because everyone uses adblock-plus ;) | 12:05 |
| bilalakhtar | :) | 12:05 |
| hrw | markos_: browsing net without adblock is strange thing ;D | 12:06 |
| mr_pouit | bdrung: I don't think it was me (I already know what it does ;) | 13:01 |
| bdrung | mr_pouit: about which package did you talked yesterday? | 13:01 |
| mr_pouit | mmh, exo I think | 13:02 |
| m4n1sh | I am trying to create a source package, but debuild -S is giving errors http://debian.pastebin.com/TxeMhuq2 | 13:13 |
| m4n1sh | the initial package worked fine, it started giving problems only after I edited the original source page to add one more section to build a binary package | 13:14 |
| m4n1sh | dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to zeitgeist-datasources/zeitgeist-dataproviders-0.1.0.tar.gz: binary file contents changed | 13:14 |
| azeem_ | m4n1sh: why is there a tarball inside the source tree? | 13:40 |
| m4n1sh | azeem_: I did a make distcheck | 13:40 |
| m4n1sh | to build it | 13:40 |
| m4n1sh | took it outside | 13:40 |
| m4n1sh | and then created the debian folder | 13:41 |
| azeem_ | outside is what? | 13:41 |
| soren | quadrispro: To answer your question from #ubuntu-meeting (just respond whenever you're available to do so): | 13:41 |
| m4n1sh | azeem_: the orig.tar.g file | 13:41 |
| m4n1sh | azeem_: after removing that tar file from inside | 13:42 |
| m4n1sh | http://paste.ubuntu.com/535195/ | 13:42 |
| azeem_ | m4n1sh: apparently the tar.gz file is still located in the source tree? | 13:42 |
| soren | quadrispro: Simple. a) I cannot always attest to a package's correctness on Debian, becuase I happen to run Ubuntu, not Debian. b) There is less resistence in getting stuff into Ubuntu. Faster turnaround => more stuff gets done. | 13:42 |
| azeem_ | m4n1sh: ok, so that one is resolved | 13:42 |
| m4n1sh | yeah | 13:42 |
| azeem_ | the other problem is the new symlink | 13:42 |
| m4n1sh | azeem_: do I need to remove all files created by ./autogen.sh ? | 13:42 |
| azeem_ | probably easiest is the remove that one in the clean target, and redo it if necessary for the build | 13:43 |
| m4n1sh | fine | 13:43 |
| azeem_ | m4n1sh: why do you run autogen.sh during package build? | 13:43 |
| azeem_ | does the upstream tarball not have a full configure script already? | 13:43 |
| m4n1sh | azeem_: actually I am working with upstream | 13:44 |
| m4n1sh | so I need to run | 13:44 |
| m4n1sh | ./confugure | 13:44 |
| m4n1sh | and then ? | 13:44 |
| m4n1sh | debuild -S | 13:44 |
| m4n1sh | ? | 13:44 |
| azeem_ | upstream (you e.g.) should make a tarball relaease | 13:44 |
| azeem_ | release* | 13:44 |
| m4n1sh | azeem_: did it | 13:44 |
| azeem_ | then you should add the debian/ directory to ti | 13:45 |
| azeem_ | it* | 13:45 |
| azeem_ | if needed, add patches to debian/patches | 13:45 |
| m4n1sh | means extract it and then add debian/ folder | 13:45 |
| m4n1sh | right? | 13:45 |
| azeem_ | yeah | 13:45 |
| m4n1sh | did it | 13:45 |
| m4n1sh | then ./configure ? | 13:45 |
| azeem_ | ./configure should be run by the debian package build process | 13:45 |
| m4n1sh | just debuild -S | 13:46 |
| azeem_ | right | 13:46 |
| m4n1sh | azeem_: works | 13:47 |
| m4n1sh | :) | 13:47 |
| m4n1sh | now I need to upload it to PPA and check | 13:47 |
| quadrispro | soren, 1) well, OK, I run it too. so, I meant: "encourage" contributors, not beat them :) | 13:48 |
| soren | quadrispro: Your question was "but if the package works fine for Debian and Ubuntu and the delta is not so intrusive, why should we diverge?" | 13:50 |
| soren | I wouldn't mind at all seeing more packages flow the other way. | 13:50 |
| ari-tczew | why meeting logs are not updated yet :/ | 13:50 |
| quadrispro | soren, I need to to have shower. I'm very, very interested to discuss about this point, really, but... can we continue later? :) | 13:51 |
| soren | quadrispro: I'm always around. | 13:51 |
| quadrispro | soren, even this evening? anyway, I'll ping you soon, ok? | 13:52 |
| soren | quadrispro: No worries. | 13:52 |
| soren | quadrispro: I never log off, at least. I may wander off for a while, but if you mention my name, I'll eventually respond. | 13:53 |
| pavolzetor | hi, I need help with applying patch | 14:48 |
| pavolzetor | https://code.launchpad.net/~pavolzetor/ubuntu/natty/liferea/liferea-test | 14:50 |
| pavolzetor | could you look at this? | 14:50 |
| happyaron | Can someone help me on this build failure? it builds on debian unstable, but not ubuntu natty: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/59448987/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-amd64.fcitx_1%3A3.6.4-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 14:53 |
| happyaron | fcitx/1:3.6.4-1 | 14:53 |
| ScottK | pavolzetor: If you ask mvo on #ubuntu-devel, I think he is helping people with patches today. | 14:55 |
| BlackZ | happyaron: it's related to binutils-gold most likely | 14:55 |
| ari-tczew | happyaron: FTBFS due to DSO linking. Related to binutils-gold in natty. http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking | 14:55 |
| ari-tczew | happyaron: Add -lXrender to LDFLAGS or LIBS. | 14:56 |
| BlackZ | happyaron: the correct way would be add that libraries to the gcc call | 14:56 |
| happyaron | ari-tczew: thanks | 14:56 |
| happyaron | BlackZ: thank you, too | 14:57 |
| geser | ari-tczew: adding to LDFLAGS won't work anymore since the --as-needed change as order does matter now (the linked library has to be specified after the object file needing it in the linker call) | 14:59 |
| ari-tczew | geser: OK, what's the conclusion? Adding to LIBS? | 15:00 |
| geser | yes | 15:00 |
| geser | and checking that LIBS is used after the object files | 15:01 |
| * happyaron confused | 15:01 | |
| ari-tczew | happyaron: Add -lXrender to LIBS. | 15:01 |
| happyaron | okay | 15:01 |
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| ari-tczew | ogra: for requesting sync, you can use script 'requestsync' | 15:12 |
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| happyaron | ari-tczew: well, it seems not working. | 16:04 |
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| ari-tczew | happyaron: sorry, I can't foretell from the ball | 16:15 |
| ari-tczew | (show buildlog) | 16:16 |
| happyaron | /usr/bin/ld: TrayWindow.o: in function DrawTrayWindow:TrayWindow.c:160: error: undefined reference to 'XRenderFreePicture' | 16:17 |
| happyaron | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | 16:17 |
| ari-tczew | show more log and use http://paste.ubuntu.com | 16:18 |
| happyaron | ari-tczew: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535252/ | 16:25 |
| happyaron | thanks | 16:25 |
| ari-tczew | happyaron: on which release do you building? | 16:28 |
| ari-tczew | natty? | 16:28 |
| happyaron | ari-tczew: this log is produced on lucid with binutils-gold installed, if really need to use natty I can try with a ppa | 16:29 |
| ari-tczew | happyaron: it depends what are you doing | 16:32 |
| ari-tczew | I'm not expert in fixing FTBFS but it looks for me as upstream problem | 16:33 |
| ari-tczew | maybe any include is missing | 16:33 |
| happyaron | thanks for you help. well here is my rules, I don't know whether I've put LIBS in wrong place | 16:34 |
| happyaron | http://paste.ubuntu.com/535257/ | 16:34 |
| ari-tczew | happyaron: the best solution is add missing flags LIBS to Makefile | 16:36 |
| happyaron | okay, try now | 16:36 |
| ari-tczew | adding to debian/rules is workaround | 16:36 |
| happyaron | ari-tczew: yeah add to Makefile seems to work, so I'll try to patch it. thanks for your help! | 16:40 |
| ari-tczew | np | 16:40 |
| tonymoyoy | hi, How can I make a deb packege for ubuntu that shows a screenshot in the ubuntu software center when you are trying to install it ? | 17:38 |
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| m4n1sh | tonymoyoy: I dont think that the deb package has anything to do with the screenshot | 17:40 |
| m4n1sh | screenshots are stored seperately | 17:40 |
| bilalakhtar | tonymoyoy: http://screenshots.ubuntu.com/ | 17:41 |
| m4n1sh | http://screenshots.debian.net/ | 17:41 |
| m4n1sh | I think Ubuntu syncs from here | 17:41 |
| bilalakhtar | m4n1sh: no, Ubuntu operates a separate version at http://screenshots.ubuntu.com/ which syncs from there | 17:41 |
| bilalakhtar | along with some of its own | 17:41 |
| m4n1sh | bilalakhtar: I have been trying to build the banshee-community-extensions from the HEAD | 17:42 |
| tonymoyoy | thanks bilalakhtar | 17:42 |
| m4n1sh | weird problems | 17:42 |
| bilalakhtar | m4n1sh: mention itg | 17:42 |
| bilalakhtar | *it | 17:42 |
| m4n1sh | the configure part works fine | 17:43 |
| m4n1sh | and the make distcheck works for most of the people | 17:43 |
| m4n1sh | Except me :( | 17:43 |
| bilalakhtar | m4n1sh: install the appropriate lib*-dev package then | 17:43 |
| m4n1sh | done | 17:43 |
| m4n1sh | make works | 17:44 |
| m4n1sh | make distcheck does not | 17:44 |
| m4n1sh | and it works for everyone else :( | 17:44 |
| bilalakhtar | Could a UDD user please verify bug #668764 's SRU upload to maverick-proposed? thanks | 17:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 668764 in bzr-builddeb (Ubuntu Maverick) "Add Natty to the list of known distros" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668764 | 17:44 |
| bilalakhtar | I have been using the package since before the upload and its very much fine | 17:45 |
| bilalakhtar | could someone else also verify? takes only a minute | 17:45 |
| bilalakhtar | m4n1sh: could you specify the problem? | 17:45 |
| m4n1sh | yeah | 17:46 |
| m4n1sh | giving you the problem | 17:46 |
| m4n1sh | bilalakhtar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535281/ | 17:47 |
| m4n1sh | do you think it is due to bad build script? | 17:47 |
| m4n1sh | or do I have to purge the build-deps | 17:48 |
| m4n1sh | and then try again? | 17:48 |
| ari-tczew | IMO debian/rules is wrong or upstream issue. | 17:51 |
| bilalakhtar | m4n1sh: looking now, sorry | 17:54 |
| m4n1sh | bilalakhtar: you want the git repo? | 17:54 |
| m4n1sh | git://gitorious.org/banshee-community-extensions/banshee-community-extensions.git | 17:54 |
| bilalakhtar | thanks | 17:54 |
| * bilalakhtar clones | 17:54 | |
| m4n1sh | and just do install the basic build-dep | 17:54 |
| bilalakhtar | chrisccoulson: there? are you working on bug #630383? or can I take it? | 17:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 630383 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "Gnome-terminal paste keyboard shortcut does not work" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/630383 | 17:58 |
| chrisccoulson | bilalakhtar, feel free to take it, i didn't get time to look at it yet | 17:58 |
| bilalakhtar | thanks chrisccoulson | 17:58 |
| bilalakhtar | m4n1sh: sorry, I don't have the time ATM to look at it | 18:00 |
| BlackZ | m4n1sh: seems like the "Main.cs" reference is missing in the makefile | 18:00 |
| m4n1sh | BlackZ: it is present. That is the puzzle | 18:01 |
| m4n1sh | atleast in Makefile.am it is referenced | 18:01 |
| * m4n1sh checks again | 18:02 | |
| m4n1sh | yes it is | 18:02 |
| bcurtiswx | is there a way to tell bzr bd to use more CPU's ? | 18:09 |
| ebroder | bcurtiswx: There's the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS environment variable: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules-options | 18:10 |
| ebroder | But it only works if the package supports it (i.e. it's opt-in for the packaging) | 18:10 |
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| quadrispro | soren, what does it mean "less resistence in getting stuff into"? when a package doesn't get accepted by Debian, we should wonder why instead straightly accept it | 18:30 |
| ari-tczew | I have some odd case. I have patch to fix licenses in upstream files. How should do I resolve this? By patch or apply directly? | 18:34 |
| quadrispro | (IMHO), this was about the 2nd point. And about the 1st one: using the same software on both Debian and Ubuntu means learning more things about it | 18:34 |
| BlackZ | ari-tczew: can't upstream just fix that? | 18:34 |
| ari-tczew | BlackZ: upstream has fixed... | 18:35 |
| ari-tczew | BlackZ: I'm packing new package. | 18:35 |
| quadrispro | ari-tczew, if upstream has fixed it in its VCS, it would be better to prepare a new dfsg-clean tarball | 18:35 |
| ari-tczew | and I have prepared stable release. Upstream has fixed in trunk. | 18:35 |
| BlackZ | ari-tczew: what quadrispro said :) | 18:36 |
| quadrispro | ari-tczew, get the sources from upstream's trunk | 18:36 |
| quadrispro | if he introduces something that you consider wrong/broken/experimental, and you want to exclude that | 18:37 |
| quadrispro | you could strip out it by patching the sources | 18:38 |
| ari-tczew | quadrispro: his trunk is FTBFS, start from this case | 18:38 |
| quadrispro | ari-tczew, take a deep look at the differences between the latest release tarball and the trunk and try to catch the issue | 18:40 |
| ari-tczew | quadrispro: bintuils gold :) | 18:40 |
| quadrispro | ari-tczew, arghh! :) | 18:40 |
| quadrispro | usually they are linking order-related | 18:41 |
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| ari-tczew | quadrispro: could you take a look on bug 313570 ? guy has noticed that patch is broken, you are a merger | 18:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 313570 in tvtime (Ubuntu Dapper) "tvtime does not rebember matte settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/313570 | 18:46 |
| ari-tczew | quadrispro: ah, sorry, BlackZ is | 18:46 |
| ari-tczew | you are the first uploader :) | 18:46 |
| quadrispro | ari-tczew, sorry but having busy time now. BlackZ, could you take a look? | 18:47 |
| BlackZ | quadrispro: will do | 18:49 |
| micahg | quadrispro: congrats on becoming core-dev | 18:49 |
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| quadrispro | thank you micahg ! | 18:50 |
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| hrw | hmm. I need to update wiki and finally start process ;D | 19:06 |
| ari-tczew | hrw: maybe MOTU first? | 19:08 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: process to get some kind of level - not core one in 2010 ;D | 19:08 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: but for tomorrow I already have listed "go to #bzr and find out why LP shows conflicts in my merge requests" | 19:09 |
| ari-tczew | aha | 19:10 |
| ari-tczew | hrw: IIRC you work for Ubuntu if you got a money. | 19:10 |
| hrw | and once found I will have to rebase/resubmit etc 3 packages | 19:10 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: not quite. I also use ubuntu | 19:10 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: today worked on fixing byobu bug which occured on my hw and it was not related to my work. | 19:11 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: also working a bit on efikamx smartbook support things | 19:11 |
| micahg | hrw: so, you're interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? | 19:12 |
| hrw | micahg: thats the plan | 19:12 |
| micahg | hrw: have you seen this yet? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers | 19:13 |
| hrw | micahg: if I would not buy linuxpda in 2004 I would probably be ubuntu-by-debian developer already | 19:13 |
| ari-tczew | hrw: start merging with Debian :) | 19:13 |
| hrw | micahg: need to find where do I have my page | 19:14 |
| micahg | hrw: where *to* put it, or where *did* you put it? | 19:15 |
| hrw | micahg: did | 19:15 |
| micahg | ah | 19:15 |
| hrw | moinmoin never was my favorite so I have problems with it sometimes | 19:15 |
| hrw | found | 19:16 |
| hrw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcinJuszkiewicz/DeveloperApplicationForUniverseContributer | 19:16 |
| hrw | bookmarked this time | 19:17 |
| kklimonda | so, how is your involvment with the Polish LoCo? ;) | 19:19 |
| * kklimonda whistles and goes away for a beer | 19:19 | |
| kklimonda | good night | 19:19 |
| ari-tczew | enjoy kklimonda | 19:20 |
| ari-tczew | hrw: s/Contributer/Contributor | 19:20 |
| hrw | kklimonda: you asked 3rd time for it and during uds-n we had discussion that there is no such thing as PL Loco | 19:20 |
| kklimonda | hrw: ah, ust kidding :) | 19:20 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: right | 19:20 |
| kklimonda | even just :) | 19:20 |
| hrw | kklimonda: prefer to mention it when others are listening | 19:21 |
| hrw | ;D | 19:21 |
| ari-tczew | lol 3 Polish talking in english :/ | 19:21 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: you are suprised? | 19:21 |
| ari-tczew | hrw: no, just odd feel | 19:21 |
| ari-tczew | :P | 19:21 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: I had situations when I changed pl<>en few times in one discussion (live) | 19:22 |
| ari-tczew | aha heh | 19:22 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: but it sounded weird when it occured in a middle of sentence | 19:22 |
| akoskm | hi | 19:22 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: suggestions/opinions on that wiki page? | 19:25 |
| micahg | hrw: that's a nice list of stuff, are you looking for endorsements? | 19:25 |
| hrw | micahg: will ask people for them in next days | 19:25 |
| micahg | hrw: ok, next meeting is in 2 weeks :) | 19:26 |
| ari-tczew | hrw: my suggestion is to show your expierence, knowledge and involvement | 19:26 |
| micahg | hrw: I'll be happy to review it later | 19:26 |
| hrw | micahg: mkey, thx | 19:26 |
| ari-tczew | hrw: I couldn't give you endorsement, I don't have anything sponsored for you or any expierence in cooperate with you. | 19:27 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: I asked for opinion/suggestion not endorsement | 19:27 |
| ari-tczew | hrw: so I don't have suggestions for you. I don't like to read on wiki election promises. | 19:28 |
| hrw | ari-tczew: ok | 19:29 |
| akoskm | I'm trying to package qtjambi for Ubuntu. I listed phonon-backend-gstreamer as dependency but pbuilder says that there are unmet depends. because phonon-backend-gstreamer is a virtual package. here the pbuilder output: http://pastebin.com/c2fK8ppQ | 19:29 |
| hrw | akoskm: use "virtual | real" for deps | 19:30 |
| hrw | or "real | virtual" order - but you have to suggest some existing package | 19:30 |
| akoskm | this is the only package which contains the file what I need | 19:31 |
| akoskm | I need to add these options to pbuilder? | 19:31 |
| hrw | to debian/control build-depends | 19:31 |
| akoskm | or inside the control file | 19:31 |
| hrw | akoskm: for example my package depends on "linux-source-2.6.37 | linux-source-2.6" (with versioning inside) because 2.6.37 is in natty but in theory any >2.6.35-something can work | 19:32 |
| hrw | or linux-ti-omap4-source if exists etc | 19:32 |
| akoskm | I see, but how do I figure out which one is the real package? | 19:33 |
| * hrw has no idea - phonon-backend-gstreamer contains real files so for me it is not virtual | 19:36 | |
| akoskm | yep, for me too thats the problem, but pbuilder states that its virtual | 19:37 |
| * hrw needs to go - feed the daughter | 19:37 | |
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| hrw|gone | thx for help guys | 19:37 |
| akoskm | thank you hrw | 19:38 |
| BlackZ | akoskm: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html (7.5 Virtual packages - Provides) | 19:39 |
| akoskm | BlackZ, thx | 19:53 |
| akoskm | BlackZ, what to do if actually phonon-backend-gstreamer is a real package, and when I list as dependency its getting handled as virtual? | 20:16 |
| akoskm | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/i386/phonon-backend-gstreamer/4:4.7.0really4.4.2-0ubuntu1 | 20:18 |
| BlackZ | akoskm: do you need it for gstreamer0.10-plugins-good and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly ? | 20:18 |
| akoskm | BlackZ, no. I should list it because it provides the file "phonon_gstreamer.so" required for qjambi building | 20:19 |
| akoskm | here is pbuilder's log: http://pastebin.com/c2fK8ppQ, somewhere at the end it says that the given package is virtual, but it isn't | 20:21 |
| soren | quadrispro: I'm not looking for more stuff to learn. I'm trying to get stuff done. | 20:44 |
| soren | quadrispro: "less resistence": I can just upload stuff to Ubuntu at will. In Debian, I have to wait for a sponsor and whatnot. | 20:44 |
| highvoltage | maco: hey, have you tried gally on natty recently? | 21:16 |
| akoskm | pbuilder still states that phonon-backend-gstreamer is a virtual package, and it wont let me to build the package, does anybody have an idea how can I avoid this? | 21:34 |
| magn3ts | Who should I contact about fixing the wubi page: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer | 22:37 |
| maco | highvoltage: i havent upgraded to natty | 22:39 |
| Pici | magn3ts: File a bug under the ubuntu-website project. | 22:40 |
| magn3ts | Pici, okay. seems rather glaring IMO :P | 22:43 |
| quadrispro | you, me, devs can upload, anyone else cannot. In Ubuntu there is a sponsorship process, too | 23:00 |
| soren | quadrispro: Was that for me? | 23:07 |
| quadrispro | soren, yes, it was :) (continue) of course policies and workflows are different, but stuff get done anyway (anywhere). The point was: mutual understanding would mean more collaboration. I don't want to state anything like: "Ubuntu should should be more like Debian" | 23:08 |
| soren | quadrispro: I know we have a sponsorship process too. I used to have to deal with it. Now I don't. So getting stuff into Debian is orders of magnitude more complicated. I'm working on a elaborate flowchart that will make the hilarity of this nonsense obvious. | 23:08 |
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| quadrispro | soren, you say right, anyway an Ubuntu-powered user could help Debian to improve and viceversa | 23:11 |
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| soren | quadrispro: Of course. An an Ubuntu-powered user could help Fedora, too. | 23:12 |
| soren | quadrispro: Really. | 23:12 |
| soren | quadrispro: The vast majority of the code in Ubuntu is shared by most other distros. | 23:12 |
| quadrispro | indeed it is, but Ubuntu doesnt derive from Fedora | 23:13 |
| soren | quadrispro: I never said it did. | 23:13 |
| soren | quadrispro: I just question the notion that spending time fixing same bug in three different places is necessarily better than fixing three bugs in one place. | 23:14 |
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| soren | quadrispro: Three places: Ubuntu, Debian, and upstream. | 23:15 |
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| quadrispro | soren, agreed, sure. I think just the following: an Ubuntu contributor who knows well Debian could work better on Ubuntu. That's it | 23:18 |
| quadrispro | then, we should keep differences alive, be different is great | 23:19 |
| soren | quadrispro: Ah, I see. | 23:20 |
| quadrispro | we agree on more points than anyone may think :) | 23:22 |
| soren | :) | 23:24 |
| quadrispro | leaving | 23:42 |
| quadrispro | soren, it's been a pleasure, see you soon! | 23:44 |
| soren | quadrispro: o/ | 23:44 |
| quadrispro | bye! | 23:46 |
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