[00:25] <russell--> Gibby: i think so, i manually added a fake channel for S-video
[00:26] <russell--> now i just need to find the s-video/composite dongle so i can test it!
[00:26] <russell--> no one seems to stock the things anymore
[00:26] <Gibby> dongle? there is 1 built on it
[00:26] <russell--> not this one
[00:27] <russell--> at least not on the outide
[00:27] <russell--> (wintv-hvr-1600)
[00:28] <russell--> also will need another dual rca to mini-stereo adapter for audio line-in
[00:28] <russell--> wires--
[00:29] <Gibby> http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr1600.html
[00:29] <Zinn> [www.hauppauge.com] WinTV-HVR-1600 Product overview
[00:29] <Gibby> yes there is
[00:29] <russell--> it has s-video in connector
[00:29] <russell--> i don't have an s-video source!
[00:29] <russell--> i have a composite source
[00:30] <Gibby> ahhhhh
[00:30] <Gibby> i have 1, will be getting rid of it in 2 weeks
[00:30] <russell--> i did manage to dig up an s-video/s-video cable
[00:31] <russell--> the particularly annoying thing is that the box with the hvr-1600 came with what i'm looking for, but ... i can't find it 2 years later
[00:31] <russell--> so, probably somewhere in the house
[00:32] <russell--> but drifted under 2 years of alluvia
[00:34] <Gibby> i hate when that happens
[00:35] <russell--> it has one positive effect, i get to review my holdings of various crap as i look for it.
[00:36] <russell--> do i really want to give my s-video input a "channel"?
[00:36] <russell--> otherwise, how do i "tune" it in "watch tv"
[00:36] <russell--> ?
[00:37] <russell--> i notice now that i can't seem to change channels off of it
[00:37] <russell--> (i said it was channel 3, now i am stuck on channel 3)
[00:38] <russell--> this is reinforcing my underlying assumption, that tee vee is a gigantic waste of time! ;-)
[00:42] <Gibby> thought you said you had this working prior to 10.10
[00:44] <russell--> not that
[00:45] <russell--> just had a couple tee vee channels decoded
[00:45] <russell--> never had tried this s-video input thing before
[00:46] <russell--> something to do with channel groups, i think
[00:47] <Patrickdk> heh, I just pluged my adaptor into the a/v header to get a composite input :)
[00:49] <russell--> "adapter"?
[00:50] <russell--> what adapter?
[00:51] <Patrickdk> http://store.hauppauge.com/accessories2.asp?product=av_cable
[00:51] <Zinn> [store.hauppauge.com] Hauppauge Computer Works Online Store- Hardware
[00:51] <Patrickdk> one came with my pvr-350 :)
[00:52] <russell--> nice. would be tempting, but i'm using a mini-pc board with only one pci slot
[00:52] <Patrickdk> I'm really thinking I'm going have to get one of them, pcie -> 4x pci things, to keep my mythtv going :(
[00:52] <Patrickdk> the only useful tv cards are pci
[00:53] <Patrickdk> I'm using a full size tower
[00:53] <Patrickdk> it's really a full blown server
[00:54] <russell--> so, like, how are you *supposed* to configure "channels" for s-video (and the like) inputs?
[00:54] <russell--> mr google pretends not to know
[00:54] <Patrickdk> I just go into channel editor and make my own
[00:54] <Patrickdk> that was back in mythtv 0.15 though
[00:54] <Patrickdk> I haven't attempted it since them
[00:54] <Patrickdk> then
[00:55] <russell--> is that in mythtv-setup or the setup within mythfrontend?
[00:55] <Patrickdk> the backend setup
[00:55] <russell--> (too many effing "setups"!!!   HATE!)
[00:55] <russell--> okay
[00:55] <Gibby> Schedules Direct
[00:57] <Patrickdk> http://www.nextwarehouse.com/item/?405913_g10e
[00:57] <Zinn> [www.nextwarehouse.com] STARTECH (PEX2PCI4) Product Page -- NextWarehouse.com
[00:58] <russell--> $377 ... ouch
[00:58] <Patrickdk> ya, but I will have pci slots in a no pci slot motherboard
[00:58] <Patrickdk> been looking at a nice 5 pcie16 slot motherboard with a x4 and x1 pcie slots
[00:59] <russell--> Gibby: what about "schedules direct"?
[00:59] <Patrickdk> 4 pvr-2250 cards would only use about 180mbit out of the 2000mbit available on a pciex1 slot, so it would be fine
[00:59] <russell--> Patrickdk: yeah, i suppose before all you had was money, now you have a thingie!
[00:59] <Gibby> that is what i use to fill my guide data since i have my directv hooked up to my hvr-1600
[01:00] <Patrickdk> gibby, what if you just want like a, vcr channel :)
[01:00] <Patrickdk> to use it without source like that
[01:00] <Patrickdk> personally, I always use it for a webcam channel, to watch the baby crib
[01:00] <Gibby> then it is just an input
[01:00] <Gibby> i just use mythzoneminder to watch my camera's
[01:01] <Patrickdk> well, I did say this was back in mythtv 0.15 :)
[01:03] <russell--> Gibby "just an input" gets translated to a channel list how?
[01:03] <russell--> in other words, like, how do i select that input from the frontend?
[01:04] <Gibby> nooo, if it is not providing channels just a single input, you just use the change input function on the frontend
[01:04] <russell--> where is the "change input" on the frontend?
[01:04]  * russell-- doesn't see it
[01:05] <Gibby> press "M" then go to source
[01:05] <Gibby> it might be input or video also
[01:05] <Gibby> but under M
[01:05] <Gibby> you could just look up the key for it
[01:06]  * russell-- still backing out the the mythtv-setup ...
[01:07] <russell--> what do i put in "input connections" for the video sources
[01:08] <Gibby> in the backend setup?
[01:08] <russell--> yeah
[01:08] <Gibby> well what are you configuring?
[01:08] <russell--> the analog s-video 1
[01:08] <Gibby> so follow the link i posted earlier
[01:09] <russell--> that is giving me stuff for the analog tuner
[01:09] <russell--> i don't have a signal source for a tuner
[01:09] <russell--> (like no cable tv)
[01:09] <Gibby> what do you have hooked up to your tuner then?
[01:10] <russell--> digital over the air tv on the digital side, s-video on the analog side
[01:10] <russell--> so, in capture cards, i have two
[01:10] <Gibby> ok, so you follow the link i posted earlier for the ATSC then right?
[01:11] <russell--> yes
[01:11] <Gibby> then what are you asking?
[01:12] <russell--> i have two capture cars set up, MPEG (/dev/video0) and DVB (/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0)
[01:12] <Gibby> correct
[01:12] <russell--> i set up dvb, that works
[01:12] <Gibby> for s-video you select composite 1
[01:12] <russell--> for the mpeg, there are multiple inputs
[01:13] <russell--> i picked "S-Video 1"
[01:13] <Gibby> hold on let me check my backend
[01:14] <russell--> there is also, Composite 1, S-Video 2 and Composite 2 and Tuner 1
[01:14] <russell--> S-Video seemed like the most likely choice
[01:14] <Gibby> yes, it is S-Video 1
[01:15] <Gibby> what do you have plugged in to the svideo in?
[01:15] <russell--> okay, then in Video Sources, I have a "Digital" and an "Analog"
[01:15] <russell--> nothing at the moment, but i want to plug in stuff like an external DVD player, a VHS player, a game, etc
[01:16] <russell--> via a composite-to-s-video adapter which i don't have in my hand at the moment
[01:17] <Gibby> Video Sources is what is used to populate your guide data.... if you aren't using something like schedules direct... delete them
[01:17] <russell--> okay
[01:17] <russell--> (that isn't obvious, btw)
[01:18] <russell--> what about "Input connections"?
[01:18] <Gibby> wait
[01:19] <Gibby> Now setup a video source and call it, i guess you could use digital, but that name is used other places I would call it antenna, thenset the listings grabber as EIT
[01:19] <russell--> okay
[01:20] <russell--> is there supposed to be a long (20-30 seconds) delay when i pick "new source" or whatever?
[01:20] <russell--> A
[01:20] <Gibby> no
[01:20] <russell--> oops
[01:20] <Gibby> no your guide data will be update for your OTA channels
[01:20] <Gibby> now*
[01:21] <russell--> channel frequency table: default?
[01:21] <Gibby> uhhh sure
[01:21] <russell--> okay, i have a "antenna" video source
[01:22] <Gibby> now go to input connections and then DVBInput
[01:22] <Gibby> In display name put antenna and for video source select antenna
[01:22] <Gibby> i keep quick tuning at never, then scan for channels
[01:23] <russell--> okay, scanning
[01:23] <Gibby> then when that is done, do fetch channels from listings source
[01:26] <russell--> okay
[01:27] <russell--> anything for the s-video?
[01:27] <Gibby> Ok,missed a step sorry
[01:27] <Gibby> yes go back to video source
[01:27] <Gibby> Name it like like S-Video
[01:27] <russell--> another new video source?
[01:27] <Gibby> for lists grabber chose no grabber
[01:28] <russell--> okay
[01:29] <Gibby> then go to input connections, s-video1, put the name in and for video source select the name you just gave the new video source
[01:29] <russell--> done
[01:29] <Gibby> then you are done
[01:30] <russell--> it is asking a bunch of channel questions, ignore those?
[01:30] <Gibby> yes
[01:30] <russell--> k
[01:30] <russell--> input priority?
[01:30] <Gibby> defaults
[01:30] <russell--> k
[01:31] <russell--> okay so, leave the setup?
[01:31] <Gibby> yep all done
[01:32] <russell--> i get a warning about s-video 1 "is set to start on channel Please add, which does not exist."
[01:32] <Gibby> ignore it
[01:32] <russell--> k
[01:33] <russell--> starting front end
[01:33] <russell--> "watch tv"?
[01:33] <Gibby> yep
[01:33] <russell--> lol
[01:33] <russell--> returns
[01:33] <Gibby> huh?
[01:34] <russell--> i get a "please wait" and then it comes back to the front end top menu
[01:34] <Gibby> did it find channels when you scanned?
[01:34] <russell--> where would i look for them
[01:34] <russell--> ?
[01:35] <Gibby> when you did the scan
[01:35] <russell--> yes
[01:35] <russell--> 24
[01:35] <russell--> of them
[01:35] <Gibby> and you ran the mythfilldatabase when you exited right?
[01:35] <russell--> yeah
[01:36] <Gibby> go back to your backend and delete the s-video stuff, it might not like it since there is no video
[01:36] <russell--> the last time i ran "watch tv" it was stuck on a "channel 3" that doesn't really exist
[01:37] <russell--> okay
[01:37] <tgm4883> "is set to start on channel Please add, which does not exist." is usually an error you don't want to ignore
[01:38] <russell--> i'd be happy to not ignore it if i knew wtf i should do about it
[01:39] <russell--> is there any way to delete just one of the entries?  the options seem to be "delete all cards" etcs
[01:39] <Gibby> D
[01:40] <russell--> sweet
[01:41] <russell--> should i delete the "capture card?" or just the video source?
[01:41] <Gibby> video source, then blank out the input
[01:41] <russell--> the input seems to have been snuffed
[01:42] <russell--> okay, back to frontend
[01:42] <russell--> okay, that works again
[01:42] <Gibby> you got your TV channels?
[01:42] <russell--> yes
[01:43] <russell--> so, now what about the s-video?
[01:44] <Gibby> you have to have something plugged in
[01:44] <russell--> hmm.
[01:44] <russell--> okay, back to the basement!
[01:45] <russell--> but, what *would* i do if i had something plugged in?
[01:45] <Gibby> what we just did before
[01:45] <russell--> oh, well
[01:46] <russell--> i have a game that is plugged in through a switch box thingie, when i scanned "channels" it thought it had a signal on all the channels, so maybe it is getting a signal from the game.
[01:46] <Gibby> thingie lol
[01:46] <russell--> composite into the switch box, s-video out of the switchbox to the card
[01:47] <Gibby> you don't scan s-video
[01:47] <russell--> i have no idea what is inside the switch box
[01:47] <russell--> yeah, but i mean to say that it thought it saw a signal on all 12000 channels it scanned
[01:47] <russell--> so there might be a signal there
[01:47] <Gibby> no you don't scan it lol
[01:49] <russell--> let's pretend there is a signal
[01:52] <Gibby> ok, then we jsut do the above
[01:52] <russell--> gah, now i can't change channels!
[01:53] <Gibby> what happens when you change channels?
[01:53] <russell--> oh yes i can
[01:53] <russell--> i just don't get on screen stuff
[01:53] <russell--> video craziness
[01:54] <russell--> i can exit, but i just get a blue screen with remnants of the tv display
[01:55] <Gibby> huh
[01:55] <russell--> lol, i can start the setup blind, but the display is frozen
[01:57] <Gibby> wtf again
[01:57]  * russell-- is just a dumb user
[01:57] <russell--> any idea how to restart X on this thing?
[01:58] <russell--> i can start a second X server
[01:58] <russell--> by dropping to a console and startx -- :1
[02:00] <tgm4883> restart gdm
[02:01] <russell--> workie
[02:02] <russell--> okay, Gibby, what part of "do the above"?
[02:02] <russell--> oh, set up the source etc
[02:02] <russell--> okay
[02:05] <russell--> okay, i am looking at live tv
[02:07] <russell--> now, how to switch to the s-video source?
[02:09] <Gibby> press M
[02:10] <russell--> okay, that gives me a menu
[02:10] <russell--> source?
[02:11] <Gibby> i don't know, it changed in 0.24 and i don't use it right now lol
[02:11] <russell--> okay
[02:11] <russell--> well the screen went black!
[02:12] <Gibby> did you hook something up?
[02:12] <russell--> just the maybe-thing i mentioned before
[02:12] <russell--> maybe it's not putting out a signal
[02:12] <russell--> i'm not getting a menu to go back though
[02:13] <Gibby> <<<<drunk.... explain a little more
[02:15] <russell--> i restarted gdm again
[02:16] <Gibby> yo ucould jsut kill myth instead
[02:16] <russell--> there are two options, switch input and swith source
[02:16] <Gibby> try either
[02:16] <russell--> lol, screen messed up again
[02:17] <russell--> i'm using intel video btw
[02:17] <russell--> on the mb
[02:17] <Gibby> what video profile are you using?
[02:17] <russell--> i don't know what "video profile" means
[02:18] <Gibby> frontend setup
[02:18] <russell--> appearance?  theme chooser?
[02:19] <Gibby> i'll check in 2min
[02:20] <Gibby> setup/tv settings/playback
[02:20] <Gibby> screen 3
[02:22] <russell--> current video playback: CPU+
[02:25] <russell--> trying normal now
[02:26] <russell--> a little stuttery
[02:29] <russell--> back to cpu+ now
[02:33] <Gibby> and what is the video card?
[02:34] <russell--> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[02:34] <Gibby> try slim
[02:34] <russell--> okay
[02:48] <russell--> slim gives me smoother video, but choppy audio.  cpu+ seems to give me smooth audio but green flickers in the video. load avg 2+change
[03:02] <russell--> more video problems with cpu-- as well
[03:12] <Gibby> hmmmmmm it should effect audio
[03:13] <Gibby> are you using a backend/frontend combined?
[03:54] <russell--> it's okay, i've given up for now
[03:55] <russell--> i think the board is maybe underpowered for the task
[03:56] <russell--> Gibby, i appreciate your patient efforts to help me
[03:56] <Gibby> yep np,
[03:57] <Shadow__X> whats the cpu? if you dont mind me asking
[03:57] <Shadow__X> i arrived late
[03:58] <russell--> an atom 330 dual core thingie (if that's the right number)
[03:58] <russell--> it was like $100 for the motherboard and cpu a couple years ago
[03:58] <Shadow__X> yeah
[03:58] <Shadow__X> are you trying to watch hd on that without gpu accel?
[03:59] <russell--> all i know is i installed mythbuntu and carnage ensued.  i tweaked minimally
[04:00] <Shadow__X> well you should be able to run a backend or a frontend on it but, its not recommended because it is underpowered
[04:00] <russell--> what is recommended?
[04:00] <Shadow__X> but since you own it already you could watch hd on it if you got a vdpau compatible video card
[04:00] <russell--> i only have one pci slot
[04:00] <russell--> and the tuner card is in it
[04:01] <Shadow__X> a real processor maybe like a core i3 or equivalent but, it depends more on what you plan to do with the system
[04:01] <Shadow__X> whats the motherboard
[04:01] <russell--> D945GCLF2
[04:01] <russell--> intel
[04:01] <russell--> dual core 1.6GHz
[04:01] <russell--> cpu
[04:02] <Shadow__X> are you trying to use that as a frontend or a backend? it sounds like you are trying to use that as a backend
[04:02] <russell--> it is small and quiet
[04:02] <russell--> both ends
[04:02] <Shadow__X> if so, although it can run it will be slow and at that point might be a bit frustraiting
[04:03] <Shadow__X> also if you plan to watch HD content you need much more of a cpu
[04:03] <russell--> just watching over-the-air teevee
[04:03] <Shadow__X> the only way an atom system can watch HD content as of right now is by offloading, so by a nvidia gpu that supports vdpau or with a broadcomm crystal hd that does offloading
[04:04] <Shadow__X> russell--: right but OTA should have HD content as well
[04:04] <russell--> yeah
[04:04] <russell--> some are
[04:04] <Shadow__X> yeah
[04:05] <russell--> mostly teevee sucks though, so ...
[04:05] <russell--> the only thing that got me started on this was that our digital converter box died
[04:05] <russell--> (i had the box built from before but was unmotivated to finish it)
[04:06] <russell--> (by the lack of compelling programming)
[04:07] <Shadow__X> ok
[04:07] <russell--> i think we'll probably run our old teevee and this next (free to us) converter box into the ground and then pop for a digital teevee then (maybe in a few years)
[04:10] <russell--> i think we went a good month since the last time we turned to tuner on.
[04:10] <russell--> anyhoo.  thanks again!
[04:10]  * russell-- goes
[08:05] <miststlkr> hello all.   I have a .23 frontend running with multiple monitors.  the menus work as I'd like, only taking up one monitor, but when I watch a video it spans across them.  is there a way to fix this?
[08:05] <miststlkr> come to think of it, running mythfrontend in a window would be preferable at times
[11:40] <qwebirc96237> arrgh! HVR1800 now broken..kernel or myth fault?
[11:40] <qwebirc96237> ubuntu 10.10
[11:41] <qwebirc96237> myth 23.1 and .24
[11:41] <qwebirc96237> 2.6.35-23-generic
[11:42] <qwebirc96237> works fine on ubuntu 10.04 tho
[11:44] <qwebirc96237> brb...breakfast time
[12:27] <qwebirc96237> eureca! .24 works with previous kernel...gtg, bbl
[13:01] <Nasha> Hello all. I have an issue where my MCE Remote (RC 6) is all of a sudden giving me 2x button presses for all arrow keys, since adding the same hardware and config files to a new frontend. I've tried altering repeat and delay settings in lircrc, to no avail. Any suggestions on how else to rectify this?
[13:12] <Nasha> Anyone?
[15:08] <superm1> Nasha, did you modify the lirc init script or anything like that?
[15:09] <superm1> that could mean that the kernel handling for lirc button presses and lirc daemon are both catching it
[15:09] <superm1> and there are some lines in the lirc init script that turn off the kernel handling (until it's fully ready for prime time)
[15:17] <Nasha> superm, corrcet
[15:17] <Nasha> Just caught onto that problem about 10minutes ago, and disabled the kernel drivers
[15:22] <superm1> Nasha, okay cool, glad that's all it was
[15:22] <superm1> if you do want to use the kernel drivers and find a good way to get all mce buttons working consistently and easily configured from them, i think that's where we want to be eventually
[15:22] <superm1> so feel free to explore
[15:24] <Nasha> Will do, biggest issue was getting back to normal. Now that i know the cause, i can play around. But i wasnt aware of the changes previously
[15:25] <Nasha> Just a quick question, should adding blacklist ir_core to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf be all thats needed to stop the driver from loading?
[15:25] <Nasha> Because after a reboot, its still being loaded
[15:26] <superm1> that will likely cause some worse problems
[15:26] <superm1> i would recommend sticking to the way the lirc init script turned it off
[15:26] <Nasha> I see... Well it didn't work anyway :P
[15:26] <superm1> it's not a matter of stopping the driver from loading, it's actually disabling a portion of the driver's support
[15:26] <Nasha> What is that way? I wasnt aware of such
[15:27] <superm1> do you still have a copy of the original lirc init script before you modified it?
[15:27] <Nasha> This line was obviously missing from my installation, because ive had this issue since day one
[15:28] <Nasha> I guess not, i copied my conf files over from my previous machine
[15:28] <superm1> oh
[15:29] <superm1> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu-dev/lirc/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/lirc.init.d
[15:29] <Zinn> [bazaar.launchpad.net] ~mythbuntu-dev/lirc/ubuntu : contents of debian/lirc.init.d at revision 150
[15:29] <superm1> you'll want to merge your current script with that one using something like meld
[15:29] <Nasha> Ok, thats all new to me, but im sure i can figure it out :)
[15:31] <Nasha> Can i be a n00b and ask what script im merging it with?
[15:32] <superm1> sure
[15:32] <superm1> /etc/init.d/lirc
[15:33] <Nasha> Ok just making sure :)
[15:34] <superm1> in the future just make sure you're careful when copying back old conffiles from an old install when jumping to a new version.  unless you've read all the changelogs, there could be dozens of little things like this that you'll miss otherwise
[15:36] <Nasha> Well i didnt touch the init script, so im not sure whats gone wrong there
[15:43] <Nasha> Ok, meld says files are identical...
[15:51] <Nasha> Any ideas superm1 ?
[15:51] <superm1> hum
[15:52] <superm1> /etc/lirc/hardware.conf and /etc/lirc/lircd.conf can you pastebin them?
[15:52] <Nasha> sure
[15:54] <Nasha> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/535234/
[15:54] <Zinn> [pastebin.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[15:55] <Nasha> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/535235/
[15:55] <Zinn> [pastebin.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[16:05] <Nasha> what do u think superm1
[16:06] <superm1> everything there looks sane
[16:06] <superm1> hm
[16:06] <superm1> okay so last thought: ~/.lircrc, ~/.mythtv/lircrc
[16:06] <superm1> are buttons mentioned twice in ~/.mythtv/lircrc maybe?
[16:07] <Nasha> I dont think so... As i said, my rc files are the same as my existing system
[16:08] <Nasha> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/535243/
[16:08] <Zinn> [pastebin.ubuntu.com] Ubuntu Pastebin
[16:10] <superm1> yeah that looks correct too
[16:10] <superm1> i'm at a loss then
[16:11] <Nasha> Oh no! Im talking with Jarod wilson hoping he can shed some light on the matter
[16:15] <Nasha> Ok, problem solved
[16:16] <Nasha> Seems the init script isnt doing its job
[16:16] <Nasha> echo lirc > /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols as superuser solved the problem
[16:18] <superm1> how can the init script not be doing that?
[16:19] <superm1> i'm sure that it works properly on both of my boxes
[16:19] <superm1> i wonder if it's actually a race condition?
[16:19] <Nasha> Well thats what i, you and himself are puzzled over
[16:19] <superm1> if you freshly reboot, is it still busted?
[16:19] <Nasha> Will test that out now
[16:21] <Nasha> Yes, still busted
[16:22] <Nasha> nasha@Ion-Frontend:~$ cat /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols
[16:22] <Nasha> [rc-5] nec [rc-6] jvc sony [lirc]
[16:23] <Nasha> add the echo command to rc.local or something?
[16:27] <yggdrasil> yo in anyone in here ?
[16:29] <Gibby> probably not
[16:31] <rhpot1991> !ask yggdrasil
[16:31] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about ask yggdrasil
[16:31] <rhpot1991> !ask | yggdrasil
[16:31] <Zinn> yggdrasil: Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[16:36] <yggdrasil> yo
[16:36] <yggdrasil> k
[16:37] <yggdrasil> so i have mythbutnu 64 bit version, and ive got a twinhan remote control. the problem is that there is something with any kernel higher than 2.6.31 that make my remote control not work. like a driver issue
[16:38] <yggdrasil> so anyway it works great if i get on a 2.6.31 kernel. is there any way i can run that kernel on 64bit myth ?
[16:40] <yggdrasil> or figure out where the hell the src is and make a kernel module that works .
[16:40] <Zinn> yggdrasil: Please watch your language.
[16:42] <patdk-wk> what kernel are you using that is *broken*?
[16:43] <yggdrasil> its up there .. i cant get to the box atm but its like 2.6.35.22
[16:43] <yggdrasil> if i remember.
[16:44] <patdk-wk> then that is your issue
[16:44] <yggdrasil> im wondering if the 32 bit myth, is running like my regular lucid system, i  had te 2.6.32 kernel still installed and ran it ,
[16:44] <patdk-wk> I think >2.6.33 it is
[16:44] <yggdrasil> thats what the myth installer loaded
[16:44] <patdk-wk> has new security stuff in the kernel, and it screws many things
[16:44] <patdk-wk> only cause you installed 10.10 then
[16:44] <yggdrasil> hmm
[16:44] <patdk-wk> cause 10.04 doesn't have that
[16:44] <yggdrasil> what kernel does 10.4 have ?
[16:45] <patdk-wk> just install an older kernel manually, and tell grub to boot it
[16:45] <patdk-wk> 2.6.32
[16:45] <yggdrasil> oh really
[16:45] <yggdrasil> well i dl'd a new iso for 32bit myth
[16:45] <yggdrasil> let me see wich version i got
[16:45] <patdk-wk> you have the same issue on 32bit, using 10.10 I bet :)
[16:45] <yggdrasil> yea its 10.10
[16:46] <yggdrasil> well so i check apt-cache for an older kernel and there wasnt one.
[16:46] <patdk-wk> ya, you have to do it more manually
[16:46] <yggdrasil> right
[16:46] <patdk-wk> or load in the lucid apt sources and install it that way
[16:46] <yggdrasil> k wwell ill jsut get 10.4
[16:46] <patdk-wk> more than I want to go over :)
[16:46] <yggdrasil> yea i thought of that but i didnt think it would work out better in the end.
[16:46] <yggdrasil> but ill jsut reload it, its a fresh install anyway
[16:47] <yggdrasil> as long as i end up on 2.6.22 .
[16:47] <yggdrasil> on my lucid box its 2.6.23 and that driver is messed up.
[16:47] <yggdrasil> once i drop it back to 22 its fine, jsut a stupid remote control but its the only one i have
[16:47] <patdk-wk> well, I just upgraded sat night, and it's 2.6.32-25
[16:48] <yggdrasil> to what ver?
[16:48] <yggdrasil> 4 ?
[16:48] <patdk-wk> that is 10.04
[16:48] <yggdrasil> cool
[16:48] <yggdrasil> yea i was actually even thining of pulling down the 9.04 ?
[16:48] <patdk-wk> 10.04 is lts, so supported for 3-5 years
[16:48] <yggdrasil> i think isaw.
[16:48] <yggdrasil> ok thats great.
[16:48] <yggdrasil> im even thinking of scrapping the whole 64 bit version
[16:48] <patdk-wk> ya, the kernel change was in 2.6.33/34 so you sohuld be fine
[16:49] <patdk-wk> I would say 64bit, but that is me :)
[16:49] <patdk-wk> all my stuff is 64
[16:49] <yggdrasil> oh really, see ive always been sh of it.
[16:49] <rhpot1991> yggdrasil: http://wilsonet.com/?page_id=95
[16:49] <Zinn> [wilsonet.com] Jarod's Junk Collection » Linux 2.6.35+ Remote Control Overview
[16:49] <rhpot1991> read that
[16:49] <yggdrasil> and i dont think i see that much of a increase.
[16:49] <yggdrasil> ill take a look.
[16:49] <patdk-wk> I'll read that sometime too
[16:49] <patdk-wk> but I don't use ir
[16:49] <Nasha> It was my IR problem :)
[16:50] <patdk-wk> I'm using ps3 bluetooth remotes :)
[16:51] <rhpot1991> yggdrasil: you could run 10.04 and enable autobuilds for updates and just stick with that if you wanted an older kernel
[16:51] <patdk-wk> ya, that is what I was getting at, as I know that works
[16:52] <patdk-wk> and don't know the hacks for the new kernel
[16:52] <rhpot1991> patdk-wk: read that link
[16:52] <rhpot1991> and you can try to see if your remote works as an inputdevice now too
[16:52] <patdk-wk> I will, but flashing firmware on a few remote systems, and on a phone call with hp at the moment :)
[16:53] <patdk-wk> my ps3 works as an input device in lucid, has for awhile :)
[16:53] <patdk-wk> without input device support, I wouldn't be using the ps3 remote
[16:53] <yggdrasil> rhpot1991: ok thats fine,
[16:53] <yggdrasil> this doesnt even need to be so cutting edge so to speak, it is my system for my van
[16:53] <yggdrasil> but it really sucks with no remote, and i want to eventually stick it to the cieling.
[16:54] <yggdrasil> but cookthanks for the help.
[16:54] <yggdrasil> ill jsut roll out on 10.4 64 bit and i think i should have the kernel that works best.
[16:54] <yggdrasil> at least maybe in a year it will all just work how its supposed ot.
[16:54] <rhpot1991> I think I meant to say that at yggdrasil instead of patdk-wk
[16:55] <rhpot1991> my bad
[16:55] <patdk-wk> I thought so too :)
[16:55] <yggdrasil>  i mean according to this do, the changes hsouldnt have even hit until 2.6.36
[16:55] <yggdrasil> so why .33 got thes changes is confusing.
[16:55] <patdk-wk> well, I dunno what changes broke your issue
[16:55] <yggdrasil> already, there were i2c changes in 2.6.33 (iirc).
[16:55] <patdk-wk> I just saying, in 33 there was a new security system put in for drivers
[16:56] <patdk-wk> and it broke many things
[16:56] <yggdrasil> ahh i thought yo usaid 36
[16:56] <yggdrasil> anyway ok its moot.
[16:56] <yggdrasil> maybe by 40 they will have it fixed :)
[16:57] <yggdrasil> actaully im glad to see some progression on ir stuff
[16:58] <yggdrasil> been in the dark ages well for ages
[17:01] <yggdrasil> thanks guys
[17:01] <yggdrasil> ill let you know how it works out.
[22:23] <Seeker`> I'm getting 404 when trying to play back stuff in my video storage group using mythweb, any ideas?
[22:23] <Seeker`> "The requested URL /mythweb/data/video/Fight_Club.m4v was not found on this server."
[22:41] <dumbledore> hey all.. I installed mythbuntu 10.10 and am trying to get a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950Q to work with it. It works fine with tvtime, but when I use the MythTV frontend, and tell it "Watch TV", the screen goes blank. It says "Please Wait" but returns to the main menu after a few seconds. I tried googling, but none of the suggestions really help. Could someone please point me in the right direction?
[22:42] <tgm4883> dumbledore, probably need to post logs
[22:42] <tgm4883> !losg
[22:42] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about losg
[22:42] <tgm4883> !logs
[22:43] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[22:43] <dumbledore> Zinn. I have already posted the logs here..http://wordpress.pastebin.com/cKjenB2W (frontend log) and http://wordpress.pastebin.com/6Tj4vQce (backend log).. sorry I do not know how to use your pastebin
[22:43] <Zinn> Hi dumbledore, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[22:52] <superm1> dumbledore, you appear to have it misconfigured in your backend setup according to that backend log
[22:52] <dumbledore> tgm4883. I did post the logs on .http://wordpress.pastebin.com/cKjenB2W (frontend log) and http://wordpress.pastebin.com/6Tj4vQce (backend log)
[22:52] <superm1> "Not ivtv or pvrusb2 or hdpvr driver"
[22:53] <dumbledore> superm1. I have it configured as IVTV MPEG-2 capture card. What should I have it configured as?
[22:54] <superm1> i don't believe it's supported by the ivtv driverset
[22:54] <superm1> i thought only the digital side of it worked in linux last i heard
[22:54] <superm1> if the analog side is now functional, it is a framegrabber type device i think
[22:54] <dumbledore> yea. I am looking to get the digital side of it working.
[22:55] <superm1> digital side, just pick the regular digital tuner stuff
[22:55] <superm1> according to http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-950Q actually analog support is there now too
[22:55] <Zinn> [linuxtv.org] Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-950Q - LinuxTVWiki
[22:56] <tgm4883> IIRC, digital side would be DVB
[22:57] <superm1> ui[
[22:57] <superm1> yup
[22:57] <dumbledore> superm1.  so should i select DVB DTv capture card option?
[22:57] <superm1> yeah
[22:58] <dumbledore> superm1. I will try it. I appreciate the help