/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/11/22/#ubuntu-us-tn.txt

wrsthey cyberanger01:44
cyberangerhow's things wrst01:50
wrstpretty good cyberanger don't hate me but trying out kde on ubuntu 10.1001:50
wrstor actually the kubuntu-desktop01:52
* cyberanger doesn't hate wrst, just kde01:55
* cyberanger points wrst to openbox or lxde01:55
wrsti know lots of people that use kde so i try to keep up to date plus with all the gnome changes coming i like to keep my options open01:56
cyberangeropen, as in openbox ;-)01:57
cyberangerwell, ubuntu is making alot of changes02:07
cyberanger& it's disconerning to me02:07
wrstwell i don't really mind them i don't think :)02:09
wrstwhat has you so disturbed cyberanger?02:14
cyberangermainly the removal or modifacation of gnu tools, getting rid of xorg02:21
cyberangerin short, alot of changes in an exteremly short amount of time02:21
wrstnot for sure what that first one is cyberanger, but i suspect xorg won't be gone terribly soon02:23
wrstwhich really xorg makes sense its some really old technology02:24
cyberangertrue, but it's not one item, it's the big picture02:41
wrsti kinda like it02:43
wrsti like it they aren't afraid to do their own thing02:43
wrsthello linuxman41002:55
linuxman410hi wrst02:56
linuxman410i am using linuxmint with openbox02:57
linuxman410wrst did u find a laptop02:58
wrststill looking linuxman410 probably be months before i buy :)02:59
wrstlinuxman410: i have just never been a fan of mint02:59
linuxman410how come02:59
wrstits good but for some reason just never fit me have never tried the combo you are trying02:59
wrsti think its just because i don't like the default menu system linuxman41003:00
linuxman410i just installed debian 5.06 on another machine03:00
wrsti haven't had any natty updates in a few days, i'm thinking something is wrong03:02
linuxman410that does not sound rite03:03
cyberangerwrst: what mirror03:07
cyberangerdo you use03:07
wrsthad been using the US mirror but a bug report out need to disable extra repos and switch to main mirror seems to be fixing some03:08
wrstoh yeah that did it03:08
wrst200MB's to dl03:08
wrstgoodnight all03:14
cyberangernight wrst03:23
Xpistosmorning everyone13:45
Xpistoswrst13:45
wrstmorning Xpistos13:49
cyberangermorning Xpistos & wrst15:51
wrstcyberanger:  how are you doing?15:51
cyberangernot well, I shouldn't have stayed up all night (again)15:53
cyberangerjust tired, but that's it15:53
cyberangerknocked out a bit of work on a few things, gotta stay up for another 3 or 4 hours, then I'll be out cold15:55
wrstyeah cyberanger you need to sleep on occassion :)15:56
cyberangeryeah, just on occassion, ugh16:14
wrstha ha i kinda enjoy the whole sleep thing16:23
Svpernova09Hey netritious19:22
wrsthello Svpernova09 and netritious19:25
Svpernova09o.19:25
Svpernova09o/     rather19:25
netritioushey wrst, Svpernova0919:48
netritiouswhat are you two up to?19:48
wrstmonday of a short week netritious so i'm having fun and trying to fit a weeks worth of work into 3 days :)19:48
wrsthow about you?19:48
netritiousnot much wrst...can't wait till Thu for that turkey and dressing!19:50
Xpistosso is Novell's sale a good thing or a bad one?19:50
wrsti love the dressing, i don't think so highly of the turkey :)19:51
Svpernova09Short work week, trying to be productive :_D19:51
netritiouscool19:54
netritiousXpistos: not sure man...I had no idea Novell was considered so valuable19:54
XpistosCorrect me if I am wrong, but doesn't novell hold a lot of valuable linux patents?19:55
Xpistosif that is true, according to the story, micrsoft is gong to buy several intellectual properties for 450 mill19:55
Xpistosthat sounds not so good19:56
netritiousI'm not sure Xpistos everything I've read seems to say that Suse will be kept separate, although nothing detailed described what 'keeping it separate' actually means19:58
XpistosAttachmate says that it plans to operate Novell as two business units: Novel and SUSE and to join these with Attachmate and NetIQ, its other holdings. The completion of the acquisition is still subject to the usual regulatory conditions and to the approval of the stockholders.19:58
netritiousI'm not to worried about it...I don't think the acquisition is going to change the landscape for Linux distributions as a whole20:00
netritiousI do wonder what's going to happen to Mono though20:01
netritiouswhich is the only free open source alternative to .NET20:01
Xpistosisn't  dot GNU the same too?20:16
netritiousXpistos: never heard of dot gnu20:19
* cyberanger wishes he had a bigger hdd20:32
cyberangerkinda hard to apply https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+newmirror when the hdd is too small20:33
cyberangerso one project down, another two were sucessful today, one of which is done20:36
cyberangernetritious: have you ever thought of hosting a mirror?20:37
* cyberanger seems to be missing all the activity lately20:44
XpistosNon iPad tablet makers really fucked up this holiday20:47
Xpistoshttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/how-the-ipad-stole-androids-tablet-christmas/14753?tag=nl.e55020:47
XpistosThey could've made crazy money20:48
netritiouscyberanger: I have21:19
cyberangernetritious: I started on that myself, but realized my drives are too small21:20
cyberangerdid you actually do it, or just an idea?21:20
netritiousit just depends on what you want to mirro...like I only mirror deb's and not src21:20
netritiousyes I have a mirror for hardy and lucid21:20
netritioushttp://www.netritious.com/software/ubuntu/local-ubuntu-repository/21:21
cyberangerah, yeah, that works (& probally could pass for what I'm really needing anyhow)21:23
cyberangerbut what I'm wanting it'd be easier to setup apache2 & then run rsync twice, rsync://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu & rsync://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu21:25
cyberangerbecuase I do want it to be a public mirror, kinda have to do that21:25
netritiouswhy are you making the mirror public?21:25
netritiousand if you host a public mirror you should probably host src too21:26
cyberangeratm it boils down to most of my linux stunts, I know it works, I wanna see up close, or at least the more stubborn (& thankfully less common) idk, cause I can?21:27
netritiousI was just curious :)21:28
cyberangerbut later on (within a year) it'll help with some projects & after that I'll ship the drive to a remote place with alot of machines21:28
cyberangeroh, I wasn't saying that harshly, just explaining that sometimes I just feel like walking into a (metaphorical) minefield with no good reason why :-D21:29
netritiousI didn't take it that way21:29
XpistosDamn I can smell that turkey soup already!@21:29
netritiousit's all good cyberanger ;)21:30
netritiousbrb21:30
cyberangerI know of a guy that is planing a coderspace in alaska, kinda remote in ISP terms (actually, more than isp terms) or some charities in Africa or Latin America21:31
cyberangercould be helpful with #swissknife-router21:31
cyberangerwho knows, just a burning desire that isn't pointless, I'm just doing it irreguardless of the point ;-)21:32
cyberangerI like your setup (wasn't what I was expecting when I said mirror orignally) but for my uses I'm pretty much doing that with squid & ntp & cron21:34
=== Svpernova09 is now known as ATF
=== ATF is now known as Svpernova09
cyberangerany way I look at it though, it will be useful22:00
* cyberanger kicks ATF out of the channel with a full auto AK-74SU22:01
Svpernova09lol :_X22:01
cyberangerwhata know, it worked better than expected22:02
cyberangerI was expecting ruby ridge22:02

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