| Kilos | morning superfly nuvolari and others | 03:14 |
|---|---|---|
| nuvolari | Kilos: môre oom | 04:01 |
| Kilos | more nuvolari gaan dit goed | 04:02 |
| nuvolari | ongelukkig nie oom :( Die projek waaraan ek werk kry my onder | 04:08 |
| Kilos | eish | 04:08 |
| Kilos | moed hou seun | 04:08 |
| corrie206 | morning all | 04:10 |
| Kilos | morning corrie206 | 04:11 |
| nuvolari | ek probeer oom, moed wil my net nie meer hou nie :P | 04:11 |
| nuvolari | lo corrie206 | 04:11 |
| nuvolari | ek moet gaan klaarmaak | 04:11 |
| nuvolari | tjirz | 04:11 |
| Kilos | verstaan jy dit net nie of is dit te veel werk? | 04:11 |
| Kilos | k | 04:12 |
| superfly | morning oom Kilos | 05:08 |
| superfly | up *really* early this morning | 05:08 |
| Kilos | yeah debs gets home from work at out 5.30am today | 05:09 |
| Kilos | so i try be online | 05:09 |
| Kilos | gets/got/ | 05:09 |
| === smorar is now known as smorar_ | ||
| nlsthzn | morning all | 06:06 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 06:06 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: How are you? Did you attend the Ubuntu hour yesterday? | 06:07 |
| Kilos | nope. i kinda home bound. would have loved to meet the guys | 06:08 |
| Kilos | but thats life | 06:08 |
| nlsthzn | true | 06:08 |
| Kilos | how you doing | 06:08 |
| nlsthzn | ok, had two days off... four at work then I am on leave for a few weeks... can't wait :D | 06:14 |
| Kilos | great | 06:14 |
| Kilos | i have a small problem guys. kinda hard to explain but i will give an example | 06:46 |
| Kilos | often i find certain goodies are working as well as they should and if i go to synaptic and do a reinstall the it downloads a few k and all works again | 06:47 |
| Kilos | till i boot the next day | 06:47 |
| Kilos | seems like dpkg is installing to the front door but once the door is closed for the night it is forgotten | 06:48 |
| Kilos | i have found quite a few packages doing this. especially lib files | 06:49 |
| Kilos | might still be backlash from my chown fopar where tumbleweed had to write me a script to get permissions back in order | 06:50 |
| Kilos | its like dpkg is allowed in to the kitchen from the back but not into the lounge | 06:51 |
| Kilos | if that makes sense | 06:52 |
| Vhata | 'faux pas' :P | 06:58 |
| Kilos | yip. massive one | 06:59 |
| * nlsthzn is confused (nothing new) | 07:00 | |
| Kilos | you were gone | 07:01 |
| Kilos | why you confussed now | 07:02 |
| nlsthzn | just catching the last of your conversation with Vhata and it makes no sense :p not that it should I guess :D | 07:03 |
| Kilos | you were offline for the start | 07:04 |
| Kilos | i will paste it | 07:04 |
| Kilos | its like spam | 07:04 |
| nlsthzn | no need :) | 07:05 |
| Vhata | he wasn't offline | 07:05 |
| Vhata | 08:49 -!- nlsthzn [c3e5f236@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.229.242.54] has joined #ubuntu-za | 07:05 |
| Vhata | 08:50 <Kilos> might still be backlash from my chown fopar where tumbleweed had to write me a script to get permissions back in order | 07:05 |
| Vhata | you spelt it 'fopar'. It's "faux pas", borrowed from French | 07:06 |
| nlsthzn | got that bit... | 07:06 |
| Vhata | Maaz: translate faux pas | 07:06 |
| Maaz | Vhata: stumble | 07:06 |
| Vhata | literally means "don't do" | 07:06 |
| Kilos | oh sorry | 07:06 |
| nlsthzn | ah | 07:06 |
| nlsthzn | silly french | 07:06 |
| Kilos | Maaz, define faux pas | 07:07 |
| Maaz | Kilos: faux pas \faux` pas"\ (f[=o]` p[.a]"). [F. See {False}, and {Pas}.] A false step; a mistake or wrong measure; especially, a slip or misstep in social etiquette; a blunder in conduct or manners that causes embarassment; as, he committed the faux pas of mentioning John's former wife. [1913 Webster +PJC], faux pas n 1: a socially awkward or tactless act [syn: {faux pas}, {gaffe}, {solecism}, {slip}, {gaucherie}] | 07:07 |
| nlsthzn | I made a faux pas :D | 07:08 |
| Kilos | i also made a faux pas | 07:08 |
| nlsthzn | I should go away before you taunt me a second time | 07:08 |
| Kilos | here is the link for the clever fellas that are here yet | 07:10 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org/view/s206tIvvZw | 07:10 |
| Kilos | reinstalling lucid is not an option | 07:10 |
| nlsthzn | hmmm I am too much of a noob to know :/ I usually re-install if all else fails (but you say it is'nt an option) | 07:12 |
| Kilos | yeah bandwidth | 07:13 |
| Kilos | or i would have done it when i made the "Faux Pas" goodie | 07:13 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:13 |
| nlsthzn | gotcha... SA needs a few good internet cafe's... one thing that is good in UAE, enough cheap net cafe's | 07:13 |
| oomkoos | morning people | 07:23 |
| Kilos | morning oomkoos | 07:24 |
| oomkoos | how you Kilos? | 07:24 |
| Kilos | well ty, and you | 07:24 |
| oomkoos | good thanks. Monday though.. ugh.. | 07:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:24 |
| nlsthzn | lol, here monday is tuesday | 07:25 |
| oomkoos | lol closer to Friday then for you | 07:26 |
| confluency | Morning | 07:31 |
| Kilos | hi confluency | 07:31 |
| nlsthzn | working shifts I guess the allure of friday or the bane that is monday doesn't affect me | 07:38 |
| nlsthzn | confluency: Hi :) | 07:39 |
| Kilos | what i missed. storm killed connection | 09:51 |
| inetpro | hiho | 10:05 |
| * inetpro wondering what to get for lunch | 10:05 | |
| * inetpro enjoyed an incredible Kentucky Tower meal | 11:18 | |
| Vhata | bad idea. | 11:19 |
| inetpro | Vhata: well with the massive shower of rain that we just got maybe I should have gone out to buy this a long time ago | 11:20 |
| Vhata | inetpro: read the last ten tweets on http://twitter.com/vhata (from the bottom up) | 11:21 |
| * inetpro not sure I understand Vhata's point | 11:24 | |
| Vhata | what did you learn from the tweets? | 11:24 |
| inetpro | Vhata: they don't really look relevant to me | 11:25 |
| Vhata | you didn't answer my question | 11:25 |
| inetpro | 1st one being http://twitter.com/vhata/status/2329194595885056 | 11:26 |
| Vhata | no, tenth from the top is: | 11:27 |
| Vhata | Maaz: http://twitter.com/#!/vhata/status/6404651356262400 | 11:27 |
| Maaz | Vhata: Huh? | 11:27 |
| Vhata | Maaz: http://twitter.com/vhata/status/6404651356262400 | 11:27 |
| Maaz | Vhata: vhata: "The Searing Pains would be a good name for a band if they weren't what I was having in my stomach/chest right now." | 11:27 |
| inetpro | ahh | 11:27 |
| Vhata | inetpro: I was in agony all weekend, just been to the doctor, and he thinks it's gallstones | 11:27 |
| Vhata | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholecystectomy | 11:27 |
| inetpro | eish | 11:28 |
| Vhata | "Numerous small gallstones, composed largely of cholesterol" | 11:28 |
| Vhata | enjoy your Kentucky Tower Meal? :P | 11:28 |
| Kilos | Vhata, you need another doctor | 11:29 |
| Kilos | he thinks it's gallstones | 11:29 |
| Kilos | they can scan and tell you exactly whats up | 11:30 |
| Vhata | you think I should keep going to different doctors until one diagnoses "the sniffles"? | 11:30 |
| Kilos | no man that ultrasound thing can see stones | 11:30 |
| Vhata | yes, I'm having one of those at 3pm | 11:30 |
| Kilos | ah | 11:30 |
| inetpro | Vhata: yep I really enjoyed that meal, fortunately I do not have it every day | 11:31 |
| inetpro | Vhata: but man, I'm sorry to hear about your pains | 11:32 |
| inetpro | hope they can help you | 11:32 |
| Kilos | they can cut and remove or shatter them with lazer or something i think | 11:32 |
| Vhata | heh, thanks | 11:33 |
| Kilos | not pleasant | 11:33 |
| Kilos | good luck. hope its not too serious | 11:33 |
| Kilos | somewhere inna back of head htere is a niggling thought that you can eat or drink something to help them dissolve | 11:34 |
| Kilos | will ask sis when she gets home | 11:34 |
| Kilos | maybe i thinking of kidney stones | 11:35 |
| Kilos | dont wanna make another fopar ( faux pas) | 11:36 |
| nlsthzn | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODgwMQ linus is a bit miffed :) | 11:38 |
| Kilos | Vhata, if it is gall stones you can eat lots of radishes. 2 to three bunches a day | 12:00 |
| Kilos | and red grapes | 12:00 |
| Vhata | and sweet potato for HIV? | 12:00 |
| nlsthzn | lifeboy soap | 12:00 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:00 |
| Kilos | no man im serious | 12:01 |
| Kilos | within 3 weeks they will be gone | 12:01 |
| Kilos | my maverick cd has arrived from shipit | 12:02 |
| Kilos | yoo hoo | 12:02 |
| nlsthzn | sweet | 12:05 |
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| * inetpro loves sweet potato | 12:45 | |
| * nlsthzn does his best Vanilla Ice impersination "Go ninja go ninja go! Go ninja go ninja go. Go! Go! Go!" | 12:53 | |
| Cantide | '< | 13:51 |
| Kilos | '< | 13:52 |
| Cantide | hi | 13:52 |
| Kilos | whatever that might be | 13:52 |
| Kilos | afternoon | 13:52 |
| Cantide | it's either pacman, or biting | 13:52 |
| Kilos | dont bite. it hurts | 13:52 |
| Cantide | oh ._. | 13:53 |
| Kilos | lol howzit | 13:53 |
| Cantide | good good '< | 13:53 |
| Cantide | avoiding work by using IRC | 13:53 |
| Cantide | u? | 13:53 |
| nlsthzn | lol | 13:53 |
| Kilos | i live here | 13:54 |
| Cantide | :p | 13:56 |
| Cantide | hey nlsthzn | 13:56 |
| nlsthzn | hello Cantide, how are you? | 13:56 |
| Cantide | alright... | 13:57 |
| * Cantide checks limbs | 13:57 | |
| Cantide | yep, quite well | 13:58 |
| Cantide | yourself? | 13:58 |
| nlsthzn | all limbs acounted for too :) | 13:58 |
| Cantide | aah '< | 13:58 |
| Cantide | suddenly i have a question '< | 13:58 |
| Cantide | does anyone here use pidgin for YM / MSN ? | 13:58 |
| Cantide | mine seems to be broken :| | 13:58 |
| Cantide | perhaps i just need a new version '< | 13:59 |
| Kilos | yip | 13:59 |
| Kilos | i pidgin lots | 13:59 |
| Cantide | '< | 13:59 |
| Kilos | there is also #pidgin but you wait some there | 13:59 |
| Kilos | whats the prob Cantide | 14:00 |
| Cantide | it won't connect to YM or MSN anymore | 14:01 |
| Cantide | i know it's been fixed for YM in newer versions | 14:01 |
| Kilos | i use pidgin for msn aim mxit and gtalk | 14:01 |
| Cantide | but my MSN just broke recently | 14:01 |
| Cantide | yeah, mine still works fine for gtalk :) | 14:01 |
| Kilos | did you try a reinstall in synaptic | 14:01 |
| nlsthzn | only reason I used to use pidgin was for mxit... now no more need... not that empathy is brilliant or anything but it works | 14:02 |
| Kilos | or another msn address | 14:02 |
| Kilos | empathy doesnt have otr nlsthzn | 14:02 |
| nlsthzn | otr? | 14:02 |
| Kilos | off the record or private | 14:02 |
| Kilos | its a pidgin special | 14:03 |
| Kilos | works better than otr on irc | 14:03 |
| nlsthzn | oh... k, never needed it before I guess | 14:03 |
| Kilos | good not to have secrets | 14:04 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:04 |
| Kilos | methinks its good for spies | 14:04 |
| Cantide | :D | 14:05 |
| Cantide | sounds good for me :) | 14:05 |
| Kilos | and clandestine ops | 14:05 |
| Cantide | let me play with synaptic a bit and try a reinstall | 14:05 |
| Kilos | good luck | 14:05 |
| Kilos | i hate it when things break on thier own | 14:06 |
| Kilos | but msn has been giving probs for 3 days | 14:06 |
| Kilos | had to use 3 accounts at times before one would get in | 14:06 |
| Cantide | .-. | 14:08 |
| Cantide | how do i reinstall it there? i want to get a newer version than the one currently installed .-. | 14:08 |
| Cantide | meh | 14:09 |
| Cantide | i marked it for upgrade | 14:09 |
| Cantide | but the dependencies failed :@ | 14:09 |
| Kilos | for a newer version you need to install the ppa but i dunno how to get that | 14:09 |
| Kilos | we ask maaz | 14:09 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google ppa for pidgin | 14:10 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Download Pidgin for Ubuntu" http://www.pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/ :: "#11081 ("Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin ..." http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/11081 :: "#10312 (PPA key should be available for download) – Pidgin – Trac" http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/10312 :: "PPA by Pidgin Developers : “Pidgin Developers” team" https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa/?field.series_filter=jaunty :: "Pa | 14:10 |
| Cantide | heh | 14:10 |
| * Cantide does some browsing | 14:12 | |
| Kilos | k | 14:12 |
| Cantide | i'll download it if it's not too big | 14:13 |
| Kilos | it was a tiny file that makes pidgin updateable if i member right | 14:13 |
| Cantide | yeah | 14:16 |
| Cantide | i see that now | 14:16 |
| Kilos | oh and to reinstall in synaptic you tick on the little block next to pidgin and you get options to reinstall or remove etc | 14:16 |
| Cantide | and when i install it, it says that i already have it installed | 14:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:16 |
| nlsthzn | :/ Novell has finally accepted a bid for it to be bought... and Microsoft has also gotten there grubby fingers in the pie... | 14:17 |
| Kilos | then you can also go | 14:17 |
| Kilos | um | 14:17 |
| Kilos | er | 14:17 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude pidgin install | 14:17 |
| Kilos | wht nlsthzn | 14:18 |
| Kilos | what | 14:18 |
| nlsthzn | could also always first remove it from SC and then re-install pidgin | 14:18 |
| nlsthzn | http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/novell-agrees-to-be-acquired-by-attachmate-corporation-for-610-per-share-in-cash-109868319.html | 14:18 |
| Kilos | if i remember the install with aptitude is also an update command | 14:19 |
| Cantide | aptitude == apt get ? | 14:19 |
| confluency | No, but aptitude ~ apt-get. | 14:20 |
| Cantide | :D | 14:20 |
| Cantide | what he said '< | 14:20 |
| confluency | Some would say that aptitude > apt-get. | 14:21 |
| LordCow | aptitude > apt-get | 14:21 |
| Cantide | I can't seem to update it either way - something about dependencies not being able to be installed :| | 14:21 |
| confluency | Like LordCow, for example. | 14:21 |
| Cantide | I see that :D | 14:21 |
| confluency | What is the exact error? | 14:21 |
| LordCow | luls | 14:21 |
| * confluency scrolls up | 14:21 | |
| Cantide | pidgin FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU '< | 14:22 |
| Cantide | let me try Empathy instead then :D | 14:22 |
| confluency | Oh, pidgin. | 14:22 |
| confluency | Um, what have you tried so far? | 14:22 |
| Kilos | Cantide, does a reinstall in synaptic also give the dependancies prob | 14:22 |
| Cantide | well, that ppa | 14:22 |
| Cantide | and i tried to update in synaptic | 14:22 |
| confluency | What PPA, and what error did you get? | 14:22 |
| Cantide | i have an update, remove etc. but no 'reinstall' in synaptic | 14:23 |
| confluency | Use apt-get or aptitude so we can actually see an error message. | 14:23 |
| Kilos | do update | 14:23 |
| Cantide | hold on, i tried update manager again and it's now updating other stuff... like flash :| | 14:24 |
| Kilos | in update manager you have the choice what you want to update | 14:25 |
| Cantide | oh, it says "Failed to detect distribution" o_O | 14:25 |
| Kilos | just untick what you dont | 14:25 |
| Cantide | yeah, i saw that, but there is too much to untick | 14:25 |
| Kilos | dont want | 14:26 |
| Cantide | W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pidgin/libpurple-bin_2.7.0-0ubuntu1.1~pidgin1.09.04_all.deb | 14:26 |
| Cantide | 404 Not Found | 14:26 |
| Cantide | seems i have a broken link somewhere '< | 14:26 |
| drubin | Maaz: get http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pidgin/libpurple-bin_2.7.0-0ubuntu1.1~pidgin1.09.04_all.deb | 14:26 |
| Maaz | drubin: 404 Not Found "404 Not Found" | 14:26 |
| drubin | Cantide: do sudo apt-get update | 14:26 |
| Cantide | okay | 14:26 |
| drubin | Cantide: that package doesn't exsist because it has been replaced by another new one :) | 14:27 |
| confluency | Did you do apt-get update? | 14:27 |
| Cantide | yeah | 14:27 |
| Cantide | just did it | 14:27 |
| confluency | Now try apt-get install pidgin. | 14:28 |
| Cantide | okay, now all i have in update manager is opera lol | 14:28 |
| Cantide | no more pidgin there '< | 14:28 |
| Cantide | i'll try that '< | 14:28 |
| Cantide | pidgin is already the newest version. | 14:28 |
| Cantide | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. | 14:28 |
| Cantide | lies :O | 14:28 |
| Cantide | pidgin is version 2.5.5, is that the newest one? | 14:30 |
| Cantide | i should have checked the version before i started doing all this :| | 14:30 |
| Kilos | 2.6.6 | 14:30 |
| confluency | Did you definitely run apt-get update? | 14:31 |
| confluency | And is the PPA definitely added? | 14:32 |
| Cantide | that's what it tells me | 14:32 |
| confluency | Do you see lines for it in the update output? | 14:32 |
| Cantide | yep | 14:32 |
| Cantide | i'll run it again if you like and pastebin it | 14:32 |
| confluency | What ubuntu version are you running, and what architecture? | 14:32 |
| Cantide | 9.04 ._. | 14:32 |
| Cantide | x86 | 14:32 |
| Cantide | updating software sources now... | 14:34 |
| drubin | 9.04 is unsupported | 14:34 |
| Cantide | oh, then that's why i'm having trouble :p | 14:34 |
| confluency | Yes, this PPA has no Jaunty packages. | 14:35 |
| drubin | confluency: You need to upgrade to karmic or lucid | 14:35 |
| drubin | Cantide: ^ | 14:35 |
| Cantide | not so easy when on a Vodacom HSDPA connection | 14:35 |
| Cantide | data is expensive | 14:35 |
| Cantide | and canonical won't give me another free CD :p | 14:35 |
| Kilos | Cantide, where are, you | 14:36 |
| Cantide | Durban | 14:36 |
| confluency | Jaunty is pretty stale. | 14:36 |
| Cantide | yep | 14:36 |
| confluency | You should be able to find someone who can get you a free or cheap DVD. | 14:36 |
| Cantide | looks like i'll have to live without IM until I get 10.10 or so '< | 14:36 |
| drubin | nuvolari: ping | 14:36 |
| Cantide | well, i have a friend with uncapped, and i asked him to download it for me... | 14:37 |
| drubin | Maaz: get ubuntu | 14:37 |
| Maaz | drubin: 301 Moved Permanently to http://www.ubuntu.com/, which gets a 200 OK "Ubuntu homepage | Ubuntu" | 14:37 |
| Cantide | but he is being slack -_-; | 14:37 |
| drubin | Cantide: http://ubuntu-za.org/get-ubuntu | 14:37 |
| drubin | try that OR try the mailing list I am sure some one will be willing to help you out | 14:37 |
| Kilos | thanks for the help drubin confluency | 14:38 |
| Kilos | i get lost when things dont work | 14:38 |
| drubin | Kilos: No worries you have come a long way since you started. | 14:38 |
| Kilos | will a lot of help from my friends here | 14:39 |
| Kilos | ty | 14:39 |
| drubin | Vhata: :( hope you feel better and your stuff gets sorted. | 14:40 |
| Cantide | thanks everyone '< | 14:40 |
| Cantide | drubin, it seems no one in Durban likes Ubuntu :D | 14:40 |
| Kilos | Cantide, come back with feedback | 14:41 |
| Cantide | anyway, i'll pester my aforementioned friend :p | 14:41 |
| drubin | Cantide: what is '< never seen it before | 14:41 |
| Cantide | Cantide '< | 14:41 |
| Cantide | Kilos '< | 14:41 |
| Cantide | Cantide hi | 14:41 |
| Cantide | Kilos whatever that might be | 14:41 |
| Cantide | Kilos afternoon | 14:41 |
| Cantide | Cantide it's either pacman, or biting | 14:41 |
| Cantide | Kilos dont bite. it hurts | 14:41 |
| Cantide | sorry, it's a habit i have from using Operanet... | 14:41 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:41 |
| Kilos | um also Cantide how come you dont order cds from shipit.ubuntu.com | 14:42 |
| Kilos | thats where i get mine | 14:43 |
| drubin | why wont they send you another one? | 14:43 |
| Cantide | i tried once, it refused the credit card details, so i got worried and never tried again lol | 14:43 |
| Kilos | strange that | 14:43 |
| Cantide | drubin, i have already received one ( 9.04 ) | 14:43 |
| Kilos | i get evry new release from them | 14:43 |
| drubin | Cantide: You can ask for another one | 14:43 |
| Cantide | it was also my dad's CC | 14:43 |
| drubin | CC? | 14:44 |
| Cantide | so i'd rather not mess it up :p | 14:44 |
| Cantide | credit card | 14:44 |
| * Cantide is a lazy typer | 14:44 | |
| drubin | you don't pay for shipit.com | 14:44 |
| Kilos | you dont need cc at shipit Cantide | 14:44 |
| Cantide | oh, i must be thinking of the canonical site then | 14:44 |
| drubin | We can send you a CD free of charge, but it will take from six to ten weeks to deliver, so you may prefer to download the CD image and record it yourself. | 14:45 |
| Kilos | sometimes they arrive in three weeks | 14:45 |
| confluency | Cantide: https://launchpad.net/~pidgin-developers/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1136979/+listing-archive-extra | 14:45 |
| confluency | I think you can download the old packages from an archive; they're linked on that page. | 14:46 |
| Cantide | drubin, at the price of data, it's not practical to download | 14:46 |
| confluency | You can try downloading and saving them, and installing with dpkg. | 14:46 |
| drubin | Cantide: I know. I was suggesting "we can send you a cd free of charge" | 14:46 |
| Cantide | ^^; | 14:46 |
| * Cantide has a look at shipit | 14:47 | |
| Cantide | confluency, thanks, i'll try :) | 14:47 |
| drubin | where do we report bugs against shipit.ubuntu.com ? | 14:48 |
| drubin | nvm | 14:49 |
| Cantide | "Already received too many shipments" lol | 14:49 |
| Cantide | 1 == too many -_-; | 14:49 |
| Kilos | no man i get every release from shipit | 14:50 |
| Cantide | :o | 14:50 |
| Cantide | shipit has favouritism built in :D | 14:50 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:50 |
| Kilos | cantide ask on the lists there must be someone near you | 14:51 |
| Cantide | k | 14:52 |
| Cantide | i still think it's easier to ask my friend to download it... | 14:52 |
| Cantide | i'll see him on Saturday | 14:52 |
| Cantide | so i'll pester him about it then :D | 14:52 |
| Kilos | yes if he will | 14:52 |
| Cantide | he said he would, but i told him it's not urgent | 14:52 |
| Cantide | now i decided that it is :D | 14:52 |
| Kilos | just make sure he gets the image i think its called | 14:52 |
| Cantide | yip | 14:53 |
| Kilos | i have never done it. also got bandwidth probs | 14:53 |
| Kilos | so i use shipit and they send every time | 14:54 |
| Cantide | i think he's downloaded before - but an older version obviously | 14:54 |
| confluency | If he has unlimited bandwidth, get the DVD. | 14:54 |
| Kilos | since 9.04 | 14:54 |
| confluency | I've found that the torrent is pretty fast. | 14:54 |
| Cantide | maybe i should create a new launchpad account ._. | 14:54 |
| Cantide | confluency, from the canonical site?? | 14:54 |
| confluency | Yes, they have an official torrent. They've had it for a while. | 14:55 |
| confluency | You can leverage the excellent bandwidth of nice people in Russia. | 14:55 |
| Cantide | cool | 14:56 |
| Cantide | i'll tell him that '< | 14:56 |
| Cantide | afk for a while | 14:57 |
| Cantide | thanks for the help everyone :) | 14:57 |
| Kilos | yw sorry it didnt work | 14:57 |
| Kilos | good luck | 14:57 |
| Cantide | ^^ | 14:58 |
| Kilos | hi maiatoday | 15:20 |
| maiatoday | hi Kilos | 15:20 |
| maiatoday | how are things | 15:20 |
| Kilos | well ty and you? | 15:20 |
| maiatoday | great thanks | 15:21 |
| drubin | Just reported my first (and confirmed) but against shipit.ubuntu.com | 15:21 |
| maiatoday | hey drubin | 15:21 |
| maiatoday | shipit bug? | 15:22 |
| maiatoday | hey! is that a gcal plugin I see on ubuntu-za.org | 15:23 |
| maiatoday | woohoo | 15:23 |
| === Cantide is now known as shongololo | ||
| === shongololo is now known as Cantide | ||
| drubin | maiatoday: Hope you don't mind me forwarding your email to the loco | 16:10 |
| Pauly | hello | 17:52 |
| Maaz | Pauly: By the way, Kilos on freenode told me "tell pauly sorry we missed you. It is very quiet here over weekends" 2 months, 4 days, 5 hours, 35 minutes and 40 seconds ago | 17:52 |
| Pauly | where is everyone? | 17:52 |
| Pauly | yes. | 17:52 |
| Pauly | anyone who is in cape town? | 17:52 |
| === smorar_ is now known as smorar__ | ||
| === smorar__ is now known as smorar_ | ||
| Pauly | anyone who is in cape town to offer me training for web design and maintenance? | 17:54 |
| Vhata | that's quite a big ask | 17:59 |
| Vhata | the best way is to just start doing it yourself | 17:59 |
| Cantide | yeah, i taught myself in a few months | 17:59 |
| Cantide | web dev is relatively simple | 17:59 |
| Vhata | heh | 18:00 |
| Vhata | is it really? | 18:00 |
| Cantide | that really depends how good you want to become :p | 18:01 |
| Cantide | you could still make something knowing only the basics | 18:01 |
| Vhata | well that's true of mechanics, cooking, juggling or anything else, so it's not actually really saying anything | 18:01 |
| Cantide | no one starts with the advanced stuff | 18:02 |
| Vhata | no, they don't. But don't say "webdev is simple", because it's not. | 18:03 |
| Cantide | to each their own | 18:03 |
| Vhata | ... really? | 18:03 |
| Vhata | Cantide: I run the servers for yola.com. We have four million users - our data is in the terabytes, and it needs to be indexed and searched and accessed on the fly, not to mention backed up in an easily restorable way. | 18:04 |
| Vhata | We need to write software that can run on multiple concurrent servers, because one server cannot handle the load | 18:04 |
| Cantide | that is not the web dev he was asking about, i'm sure | 18:05 |
| Vhata | so we have to worry about concurrency and consistency and atomic operations | 18:05 |
| Cantide | one person wouldn't just ask about a task like that when he is just starting off | 18:05 |
| Vhata | don't say "webdev is simple". | 18:05 |
| Vhata | "making a simple thing is simple", yes. Duh. Making toast is simple. | 18:05 |
| Cantide | someone who says "I want to learn how to cook" doesn't expect to make a gourmet meal for 100 | 18:06 |
| Vhata | I get that, you don't need to keep repeating that. | 18:06 |
| Vhata | But don't say "oh, cooking is easy", because it's not. | 18:07 |
| Vhata | Say "getting started is easy, and you hsould be on your first legs in a short while, and you can build from there" | 18:07 |
| Vhata | also, Pauly didn't ask about web dev, he asked about web design. | 18:07 |
| charlvn | the term "web dev" is so diluted it's almost as bad as "cloud computing" or "web 2.0" | 18:09 |
| charlvn | it can describe anything from doing basic html/css to writing complicated backends | 18:09 |
| drubin | charlvn: cloud computer is worse then web 2.0 | 18:18 |
| charlvn | drubin: agreed, and web 3.0 is even worse than cloud computing :) | 18:19 |
| drubin | charlvn: *nothing* beats "mobile web" imho | 18:22 |
| charlvn | drubin: for sure! after all, the "normal" web got too old, now we need a new, totally separate one! | 18:25 |
| drubin | charlvn: A new "mobile web" "4g" on our new "cloud servers" | 18:25 |
| charlvn | drubin: that settles it, we're moving straight into the marketing department! gonna introduce this new awesome technology to the world! | 18:26 |
| Pauly | okay | 18:32 |
| Pauly | okay | 18:38 |
| magespawn | good evening all | 18:40 |
| charlvn | 'eve magespawn | 18:40 |
| magespawn | we have not met before | 18:41 |
| magespawn | have we? | 18:43 |
| charlvn | probably not, pleased to be introduced :) | 18:43 |
| magespawn | indeed. ;) | 18:45 |
| === smorar_ is now known as smorar__ | ||
| inetpro | heh charlvn, good to see you here | 19:48 |
| inetpro | Vhata: you talking to us from the hospital? | 19:48 |
| charlvn | inetpro: hey :) | 19:49 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:44 |
| wedwo- | Nag Oompie, lekker doedoes! | 20:44 |
| Kilos | dankie meneer | 20:44 |
| nuvolari | fp | 22:00 |
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