[04:02] <ScottL> TheMuso, persia:  i am running update again and it appears to be working
[04:02] <TheMuso> ok great.
[04:24] <ScottL> TheMuso,  update completed, ran debuild, received a few lintian warnings, and fixed all but one
[04:25] <TheMuso> Ok cool.
[04:25] <ScottL> it was complaining about the misc depends for the ubuntustudio-audio package, which will be a transitional package
[04:25] <ScottL> persia said to remove the ${misc:depends}....should i put it back or ignore the lintian warning?
[04:27] <ScottL> TheMuso, ^^^
[05:29] <TheMuso> Hrm lmms hasn't been looked at.
[05:29] <TheMuso> Its a warning for a reason. :)
[05:29] <TheMuso> Leave it out.
[06:46] <persia> Lintian could probably use a patch to detect transitional dummy packages, but that would require a real resolution to the debate over their format (which hasn't been active in a while, but was last given up with a consensus that if the tools handled it, it was probably correct)
[12:01] <ScottL> TheMuso, quadrispro said he knew what the problem was on lmms and was taking care of it
[12:02] <ScottL> also i haven't received an email about uninstallable binary on it for a couple of days
[12:03] <ScottL> TheMuso, persia: i will leave the miscellaneous, depends out then (which is what i would thinking), thank you
[12:03] <ScottL> i'll should have the debdiff this evening then (about +18 hours hence)
[13:57] <scott-work> TheMuso: rereading the scrollback (well, logs actually) i might not have explanined the misc depends clearly
[13:58] <scott-work> TheMuso: lintian was telling me that the package did NOT have a misc depends
[13:58] <quadrispro> going to have a shower, persia: thank you very much!
[13:58] <quadrispro> see you later guys
[13:58] <persia> quadrispro, It's not me: you earned it.
[13:58] <scott-work> bye quadrispro  :)
[13:59] <scott-work> did quadrispro garner an accolade?
[15:49] <scott-work> persia: severla days ago i was speaking with quadrispro about lashd and jack session
[15:50] <scott-work> he informed me that development for lashd has stopped, which i felt was unfortunate as we are now just including it in the image
[15:50] <scott-work> however, he did say that despite lack of development, it apparently is well developed so we should see use from it for a while
[15:51] <scott-work> but i expect that means that jack session will be the viable path in the future
[15:52] <persia> I think we should use what works today, even if it's not exciting upstream, and adopt the new upstream model once it's mature.
[15:52] <falktx> scott-work: what about ladish ?
[15:53] <scott-work> falktx: i don't know that much about ladish at the moment
[15:53] <falktx> afaik, it's not in debian yet
[15:53] <scott-work> i also note that the build log for the daily still inlcudes phonon, kdebase-runtime and other kde packages :(
[15:54] <falktx> eheh
[15:54] <falktx> scott-work: i suppose it's Qt
[15:55] <scott-work> i remember looking at qjackctl's depencies and thinking it wouldn't pull so much in but i certainly could be wrong
[15:56] <scott-work> it does look like one place it is bringin in phonon is from the audio-common seeds
[15:56] <scott-work> ugh, it also appears like it may be in the video seed as well
[15:59] <scott-work> although the build logs appear to contain fewer kde packages
[16:02] <falktx> scott-work: someone has to install it and check
[16:06] <scott-work> falktx: i have a previous natty install (from approximately a week ago) that i can check a few things
[16:07] <scott-work> i used rdpeneds to try and check some of the kde stuff but so much as installed it became unintelligible (literally in the case where i tried to generate a map with graphviz and dot)
[16:07] <scott-work> s/as installed/was installed
[16:08] <scott-work> obviously someone should port qjackctl to gtk
[16:08]  * scott-work is kidding
[16:08] <falktx> hehe
[16:10] <falktx> scott-work: i'm still working on the US live-dvd thing
[16:10] <falktx> internet is still slow
[16:12] <falktx> ubuntustudio sure has a lot of software....
[16:13] <falktx> scott-work: some packages are way big and not really needed (lilypond-doc has 150mb), why not removing it ?
[16:17] <scott-work> falktx:  i would like to reduce the size of the image
[18:41] <quadrispro> falktx, does festige depend on something related to VST?
[18:41] <quadrispro> does it need to build against any VST-related stuff?
[18:41] <falktx> quadrispro: no
[18:42] <quadrispro> falktx, please give me the URL
[18:42] <falktx> quadrispro: it needs a header file, but it uses a free one from LMMS
[18:42] <falktx> festige.sf.net
[18:42] <quadrispro> ScottL, I've become core-dev (hi!)
[18:42] <falktx> quadrispro: i havent updated the webpage yet, but the sourceforge release file should be 0.9.2
[18:43] <quadrispro> falktx, I took a look somedays ago, now I don't remeber what the problem was
[18:43] <quadrispro> yep, going to download the file
[18:43] <falktx> i'll give you the final link
[18:43] <falktx> quadrispro: http://sourceforge.net/projects/festige/files/0.9.2/festige-0.9.2.tar.gz/download
[18:44] <quadrispro> falktx, I'm on it, does it need fst?
[18:44] <falktx> quadrispro: no, it has one built-in
[18:45] <falktx> (patched for ladish support)
[18:45] <falktx> quadrispro: the source package already has a debian folder :)
[18:45] <quadrispro> falktx, fst was available in Debian -> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=402945
[18:46] <falktx> nice
[18:46] <falktx> "was" ?
[18:47] <falktx> quadrispro: ha, i know about that
[18:47] <falktx> quadrispro: please note on the webpage, http://www.joebutton.co.uk/fst/ :
[18:47] <falktx> 29 Jan 2009 - Development now continues in git. The VST headers are not required anymore. execute git clone "git://repo.or.cz/fst.git" to get it.
[18:47] <falktx> VST headers are not required
[18:47] <falktx> quadrispro: that was the only issue afaik
[18:48] <quadrispro> bingo
[18:48] <quadrispro> well, I'm going to make the 'fst' package first
[18:48] <falktx> ok
[18:48] <falktx> make sure you get git code
[18:49] <quadrispro> why?
[18:50] <quadrispro> falktx, did you get your alioth account?
[18:51] <falktx> quadrispro: for fst, make sure you get git code, cause it's the one that doesnt need VST header
[18:51] <falktx> quadrispro: i think so...
[18:51] <quadrispro> falktx, where fst's git branch is?
[18:52] <falktx> quadrispro: http://repo.or.cz/w/fst.git
[18:54] <scott-work> quadrispro: congratulations on core-dev!   that is super cool :)
[18:54] <quadrispro> thank you scott-work !
[18:54] <quadrispro> falktx, off... they don't provide an homepage, I see...
[18:55] <quadrispro> one is http://www.joebutton.co.uk/fst/ but seems not up-to-date
[18:56] <quadrispro> falktx, I need some time to fix a wrong upload of faad2, would you mind to get in touch with upstream in order to get more information about the current status, their plans for the future, etc etc?
[18:58] <falktx> quadrispro: sure
[18:58] <falktx> no prob
[18:58] <quadrispro> falktx, feel free to CC me
[18:58] <falktx> time to go
[18:58] <falktx> bye
[20:18] <scott-work> in digging through the daily build log, the number of kde pacakges is greatly reduced, perhaps 1/2 remain