[00:36] <nigelb> jcastro: lol, I asked scottK, how one would package a tar in tar thingy and he says "with lots of pain" :P
[00:36] <nigelb> No wonder the patch was sorta ignored
[03:25] <nisshh> jcastro, ping
[03:45] <nisshh> jcastro, actually, nvm, ignore me :)
[04:58] <nigelb> haha, #github can be fun sometimes :)
[05:04] <nigelb> hrm, IRC is very silent today :/
[06:22] <duanedesign> nigelb: !
[06:22] <duanedesign> :)
[06:24] <nigelb> duanedesign: Heya :)
[07:47] <nigelb> Morning dpm :)
[07:48] <dpm> morning nigelb
[07:48] <dpm> good morning everyone
[07:51] <duanedesign> good morning
[07:55] <dholbach> good morning!
[07:56] <duanedesign> morningd
[07:56] <duanedesign> hmm
[07:56] <duanedesign> morning dholbach
[07:56] <duanedesign> ahh
[07:56] <dholbach> hi duanedesign
[07:56] <dpm> morgen dholbach!
[07:56] <dholbach> hey dpm
[07:57] <nigelb> Good Morning dholbach :)
[07:58] <dholbach> hey nigelb
[07:59] <dholbach> duanedesign, I'll reply to your mail in a bit - thanks a bunch for helping out
[07:59] <dholbach> I'll also mention Bilal's session in all the ubuntudev accounts
[08:05] <nigelb> Morning ara, kim0 \o/
[08:05] <kim0> nigelb: ara hey morning :)
[08:05] <kim0> dholbach: o/
[08:05] <kim0> dpm: howdy
[08:06] <dholbach> hey kim0! صباح الخير
[08:06] <kim0> :D dholbach always ready
[08:06] <dpm> heya kim0 :)
[08:06] <nigelb> gah, gnome-terminal cannot do ut8 :\
[08:07] <kim0> Yeah, you have to be imaginative
[08:07] <nigelb> All I see is a few question marks :(
[08:11] <duanedesign> hmm really nigelb
[08:11] <nigelb> duanedesign: you get utf8 on terminal?
[08:11] <kim0> you're probably missing fonts then
[08:11] <nigelb> well, I see it fine on the browser
[08:11] <duanedesign> nigelb: well, I am in Terminator...
[08:12] <nigelb> duanedesign: gnome-terminal here
[08:13] <dholbach> both use vte
[08:14] <nigelb> hrm, something's wrong or is it a known bug. /me asks google
[08:21] <nigelb> duanedesign: figured it out.
[08:21] <nigelb> cjohnston's server, where my irssi sits, doesn't do utf8 :D
[08:21] <nigelb> (yet)
[08:23] <duanedesign> ahh
[08:30] <dholbach> duanedesign, I updated the blueprint again - seems like the workitems script got a bit confused :)
[08:52] <duanedesign> dholbach: ahhh. Yes I could see how that happened :P probablly thought person 1 had work item http://....
[08:53] <dholbach> yeah, the script is pretty strict :)
[09:05] <nigelb> dholbach: Hey, do you have fridge calender access?
[09:06] <nigelb> dholbach: I'm guessing you do, can you help diwic with some trouble in adding a meeting to the fridge?
[09:07] <dholbach> nigelb, no, I don't have access to the Fridge
[09:07] <dholbach> but the people in #ubuntu-news can probably help
[09:07] <nigelb> well, lol, I'm in there and I was looking around for someone with access :)
[09:26] <huats> morning
[09:27] <duanedesign> morning
[09:44] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:47] <dholbach> hey huats, randa, czajkowski!
[09:48] <huats> hello dholbach and czajkowski !
[09:48]  * czajkowski hugs the crazy folks in the channel :)
[09:48] <randa> hi everyone!
[09:54] <kim0> morning czajkowski
[09:57] <czajkowski> kim0: dholbach huats randa ELLO ELLO
[09:58] <duanedesign> morning randa czajkowski
[10:00] <czajkowski> anyone working on anyting interesting
[10:00] <dholbach> no
[10:00]  * dholbach is slacking off
[10:01] <duanedesign> mmm, yeah i am having trouble getting going
[10:01] <vish> nhandler: hey, yea we need you.. ;) we kinda need a server and jcastro mentioned you … basically we need a mail server to fetch mail and send to an lp team's mailing list..
[10:04] <czajkowski> oh is that for the LD ?
[10:04] <czajkowski> to send a mail to a team once an event is created vish
[10:04] <czajkowski> duanedesign: it's rather early/late for you go to bed
[10:04] <czajkowski> dholbach: crank up some tunes
[10:05] <vish> czajkowski: nah, not for LD, but a new team 'papercuts ninja'
[10:05] <dholbach> czajkowski, tunes are already cranked - I was just kidding, I'm not slacking :)
[10:05] <czajkowski> dholbach: I know, no fear of that ever happening with you
[10:06] <czajkowski> vish: ah ok
[10:07] <vish> gah, when is nautilus going to stop crashing!! everytime i unmount an external media it crashes. :s  and i have to restart conky :/
[10:13] <duanedesign> czajkowski: it  is! I think i have succeded in completely reversing my hours. :P
[10:14] <vish> yay! nautilus update available for the unmount bug!
[10:23] <duanedesign> i need some volunteers to test my new release of CLI Companion. I redid the format you enter commands and want to make sure it is easy to understand
[10:44] <duanedesign> morning Pendulum
[12:36] <nhandler> vish: I don't have a mail server handy. I could probably hunt one down for you though if you make a full list of the requirements
[12:40] <duanedesign> morning mr handler
[12:40] <nhandler> Hey duanedesign
[12:50] <duanedesign> nhandler: how is the Google Code In going?
[12:50] <nhandler> duanedesign: Haven't started yet. Still sorting out the details in #debian-soc
[12:54] <vish> nhandler: from what i'v been told.. all it needs is MTA, fetchmail and procmail installed  or   dovecot and postfix [which seem to be pre-installed on ubuntu-servers], then we need procmail alone
[12:55] <nhandler> vish: And who would need access to it?
[12:55] <vish> nhandler: well, bilal is the one who knows[and has] the config .. he can have access  or you can have access alone..
[12:56] <nhandler> vish: Alright. I'll poke a few people later today
[12:56] <vish> nhandler: neat! thanks.. :)
[13:01] <duanedesign> good day vish
[13:01] <vish> duanedesign: heya :)
[13:44] <jcastro> Technoviking: ping
[13:44] <jcastro> Technoviking: are moderators required to be members?
[13:54] <duanedesign> jcastro: ubuntu members?
[13:54] <jcastro> yeah
[13:56] <duanedesign> jcastro: no
[13:59] <nhandler> Being a Moderator is a great way to become a member though ;)
[13:59] <duanedesign> nhandler: yes. Thank you for mentioning that.
[14:01] <duanedesign> As at that point your contributions should show a sustained and significant contribution to Ubuntu
[14:02]  * nhandler still remembers when a large group of moderators all went for membership at the same time (shortly after the creation of the RMBs iirc)
[14:36] <jcastro> duanedesign: do you guys have a list for the screencast team?
[14:36] <jcastro> I have some guy that mailed me about some tutorial site he made
[14:38] <jcastro> actually I'll just forward it to you
[14:38]  * jcastro tries to make it look like he's not spamming duane
[15:22] <Technoviking> jcastro: no, but we encourge them to apply for membership ASAP
[15:22] <duanedesign> jcastro: please sendd away :)
[15:31] <sense> good afternoon
[15:32] <jcastro> hi sense
[15:32] <jcastro> I am working on something
[15:32] <jcastro> I want you to check it out
[15:32] <doctormo> Hi good sense
[15:32] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Places/Ideas
[15:33] <sense> jcastro: I'm checking it out!
[15:33] <sense> hello doctormo too
[15:33] <duanedesign> 'lo doctormo sense
[15:34] <duanedesign> doctormo: i see you ta drinking avatar worked on the new Planet theme
[15:34] <duanedesign> your tea*
[15:35] <jcastro> doctormo: please don't edit
[15:35] <sense> jcastro: Could be a very nice page to share wonderful ideas for Places. Just make sure something like OMG!Ubuntu! never gets hold of this page, otherwise it will be flooded! :P
[15:36] <doctormo> duanedesign: In so far as it's 12px high and looks like a bunch of randomly moving pixels?
[15:36] <doctormo> jcastro: I'll undo my edit
[15:36] <jcastro> sense: that's the point
[15:36] <jcastro> doctormo: no wait
[15:36] <jcastro> I got it!
[15:36] <jcastro> I just need to clean it up
[15:36] <jcastro> don't add any ideas yet. :)
[15:36] <doctormo> ok, waiting.
[15:36] <sense> jcastro: Also, I'd mention the basic idea/requirements/guidelines for places: i.e. wat is a Place and what not.
[15:36] <doctormo> Although I already added an idea.
[15:37] <sense> The link to the project is good, people should be able to go to the project right away.
[15:37] <jcastro> yeah
[15:37] <jcastro> ok so, for example
[15:37] <jcastro> an android one is a system thing
[15:37] <jcastro> I think those get their own place anyway
[15:38] <sense> I would also explain what sections are.
[15:38] <jcastro> I added a picture
[15:39] <sense> and emphasise places are mostly about presenting content, probably with the awesome libdee!
[15:39] <sense> Pictures are good! :)
[15:40] <doctormo> Is ground control projects a place?
[15:42] <sense> no, because Ground Control is about doing stuff, not about managing/searching through data
[15:42] <sense> You could have a Launchpad place, but it would go too far to make it a very complicated thing.
[15:42] <sense> A Place should mostly be a quick and convenient way to access your stuff.
[15:46] <jono> hey all
[15:46] <jcastro> it's like a super gnome do doctormo
[15:46] <doctormo> Ah man I hate GnomeDo.
[15:46] <dholbach> hey jono
[15:46] <jcastro> jono: check it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Places/Ideas
[15:47] <doctormo> jcastro: I thought places was about getting to interesting places.
[15:47] <jono> hey dholbach
[15:47] <jono> jcastro,  cool :-)
[15:47] <sense> doctormo: Places is about taking you to interesting places, but that is the idea behind GNOME Do as well. :)
[15:47] <jcastro> right
[15:48] <jcastro> you click on the ubuntu icon, type "the matrix" and the imdb place returns your thumbnails or whatever
[15:48] <doctormo> sense: I have nothing against the functionality of gnome do, after you've got to the damn thing. It's just one of those sys-admin designs.
[15:48] <sense> doctormo: Places isn't about that.
[15:48] <sense> jcastro: Why the distinction between application and web places?
[15:48] <jcastro> sense: because app places will be supported before web ones
[15:48] <doctormo> sense: Just in case you thought your computer and the cloud were on and the same.
[15:49] <sense> ok
[15:49] <jcastro> sense: to the end user they'll be the same, but technically different, and I'd like to target both sets.
[15:49] <jcastro> I will clear that up
[15:50] <sense> ok
[15:51] <jcastro> sense: I haven't had a call with john on design yet so there are some areas I am still fuzzy on
[15:51] <jcastro> but you only need the 80% explanation to come up with some decent examples
[15:51] <jcastro> on thursday I will have a call with them
[15:51] <sense> yah
[15:51] <sense> e
[15:52] <jcastro> actually friday
[16:00] <jono> dpm, about set?
[16:00] <dpm> jono, yep
[16:01] <jono> dpm, ok, just going to take a quick bio break then ready
[16:01] <dpm> jono, ok, speak to you in a few mins
[16:03] <jono> dpm, logging on
[16:13] <jono> dpm,
[16:13] <jono>  jono, I can hear you
[16:13] <jono> oops
[16:13] <jono> dpm, http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon
[16:28] <greg-g> "bio break" as in "peeing"
[16:28] <greg-g> ?
[16:37]  * dholbach calls it a day
[16:37] <dholbach> see you all tomorrow
[16:37]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:51] <jono> greg-g, yep
[17:39] <dpm> time to call it a day, see you all tomorrow!
[19:30] <greg-g> sense: whoa, dude, you got retweeted by the European Commision Vice President?
[19:31] <sense> greg-g: :)
[19:32] <sense> She does her tweets personally, I believe.
[19:32] <sense> and is quite concerned with women's emancipation.
[19:43] <greg-g> sense: awesome!
[20:01] <AlanBell> and look who Neelie turns to for advice! http://twitter.com/#!/NeelieKroesEU/status/5692941079150593
[20:17] <greg-g> looks like all good stuff there, no?