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| smb | morning | 08:34 |
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| abogani | smb: Good morning! | 08:47 |
| jjohansen | morning smb | 08:49 |
| smb | jjohansen, heya | 08:50 |
| smb | jjohansen, One could say good morning to you as well. :) Though good night usually is more appropriate. ;) | 08:51 |
| jjohansen | :) | 08:51 |
| smb | jjohansen, Any news from the sky? | 08:52 |
| smb | (iow how's the clouds looking) | 08:53 |
| jjohansen | I haven't looked up yet | 08:53 |
| jjohansen | its just been one of those days | 08:54 |
| smb | You mean there is too much rain coming down to see any cloulds. :) | 08:54 |
| jjohansen | its snowing | 09:02 |
| jjohansen | both literally and figuratively | 09:02 |
| smb | I would prefer snow to the cold rain here | 09:03 |
| jjohansen | yeah, snow is kind of nice, its been cold drizzle for the last week | 09:03 |
| jjohansen | I don't expect the snow to last | 09:03 |
| apw | shame, no skiing down the west hills then? | 10:16 |
| jjohansen | hrmm, there just might be | 10:17 |
| jjohansen | its almost enough to cover the grass here, so the west hills should have a fair bit more | 10:17 |
| ogra | apw, could someone from the kernel team have look at bug 511747 (specifically comments 43-45) it seems that the two lines would make additional HW work with maverick so i would think it makes sense to add that as SRU | 10:46 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 511747 in xf86-input-evtouch (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "support for Acer 1420P (affects: 6) (heat: 37)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511747 | 10:46 |
| ogra | (teh fix seems to be upstream too already) | 10:47 |
| apw | BAH patchworks is in a HEAP | 10:51 |
| ogra | thats why i'm püatch pilot today ;) | 10:53 |
| ogra | *patch | 10:53 |
| ogra | seems that bug is falsely filed against evtouch and the patches are super trivial | 10:54 |
| apw | ogra, well get it over on to linux at a minimum | 10:55 |
| ogra | apw, done | 10:58 |
| apw | ogra, can't look at the stupid patch as patchworks is a heap | 10:59 |
| apw | but if its upstream someone can send the patch to the kernel-team list to get it reviewed | 10:59 |
| ogra | well, but you can look at the patches on the bug | 10:59 |
| * ogra adds a comment about this | 10:59 | |
| * smb walks off | 11:00 | |
| * jjohansen waves good night | 11:01 | |
| ogra | do we have a wikipage that mentions how to get a patch into the ubuntu kernel ? | 11:01 |
| * ogra cant find anything | 11:01 | |
| * ogra finds a million pages on how to compile your own kernel, but no instructions on how to supply a patch the proper way | 11:02 | |
| ogra | ah, that seems to mention a policy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelGitGuide?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam/KernelGitGuide#Pushing changes to the main repo | 11:04 |
| apw | ogra, have you tried the FAQ ? | 11:04 |
| apw | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Can I get a patch included in the Ubuntu Kernel? / How can I submit a patch to the Ubuntu Kernel? | 11:05 |
| ogra | funny that neither google nor the wiki search spit that out | 11:05 |
| apw | the wiki search SUCKS, i am supprised at google though | 11:06 |
| apw | ogra, i've found and pasted the official upstream commit into that bug | 11:49 |
| ogra | awesome | 11:49 |
| sangeeth | I got the latest version of linux kernel with me... How to compile and run it?.. | 12:34 |
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| apw_ | CKING get out today? *splash* | 13:06 |
| cking | apw_, will do | 13:06 |
| apw_ | Good man | 13:07 |
| smb | cking, I am already back and apw_ just hit the pool | 13:07 |
| cking | is eating lunch classified as exercise? | 13:07 |
| apw_ | Yep dripping in the cafe | 13:07 |
| smb | cking, No, just if you walk an hour around it | 13:07 |
| apw_ | Cheek | 13:07 |
| smb | cking, You can upgrade your android while walking. ;) | 13:09 |
| apw_ | Yeah got a 2.2.1 update today | 13:09 |
| apw_ | And it still works | 13:10 |
| smb | apw_, We probably have not checked on all the ringtones yet | 13:12 |
| smb | But at least it booted | 13:12 |
| apw | tgardner, /me is uploading the natty lts backport | 13:34 |
| tgardner | apw, thanks | 13:34 |
| apw | we had a random buildd build failure last night on i386 so the main kernel is lagging | 13:35 |
| tgardner | apw, don't forget the -meta package | 13:35 |
| tgardner | we've had some ABI bumps | 13:35 |
| tgardner | apw, interesting email from persia re: Introducing Products | 13:37 |
| apw | tgardner, yep, though i am holding the abi bump til this build finishes as all of the -6's are dangerous one way or another till this one finishes | 13:37 |
| apw | JFo, about ? | 14:03 |
| jtapas | Hi there is a meeting I guess at UTC 1700 will Kernel People also be attending that | 14:09 |
| jtapas | I mean Ubuntu Kernel people | 14:09 |
| apw | jtapas, yes the meeting today at 17:00 is for the ubuntu-kernel-team to discuss progress and issues | 14:16 |
| jtapas | ok | 14:17 |
| jtapas | the place from where I will be online has frequent powercuts if I get disconnected at that time then where can I see logs | 14:18 |
| jtapas | of meeting | 14:18 |
| smb | jtapas, irclogs.ubuntu.com | 14:19 |
| jtapas | ok | 14:19 |
| apw | smb, heads up that I have added a patch to your ubuntu-delta review list, one which snuck into the mainline list | 15:00 |
| smb | apw, Guess I'll have a look then. Thanks | 15:01 |
| bjf | skaet, where would you like to meet this a.m.? | 15:21 |
| skaet | bjf, can we use one of the kernel mumble areas? | 15:22 |
| bjf | skaet, works for me, the "usual" place? | 15:22 |
| skaet | bjf, heh, indeed. will update the invite. ;) | 15:22 |
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| ogasawara | bjf: am going to miss the irc meeting this morning. am gonna try to get to my appt without having to drive so gotta leave now. | 15:49 |
| bjf | ogasawara, understood, lets do the hw handoff some other day | 15:50 |
| ogasawara | bjf: sounds good | 15:50 |
| bjf | ## | 16:08 |
| bjf | ## Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting | 16:08 |
| bjf | ## agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting | 16:08 |
| bjf | ## | 16:08 |
| apw | bjf +50 mins correct ? | 16:10 |
| bjf | apw, ack | 16:10 |
| bjf | apw, you have an open action item: "Create work items for ARM testing" | 16:11 |
| apw | bjf, that is done, the work item is on the none-kernel-n-misc and assigned to canonical-arm | 16:12 |
| bjf | apw, cool | 16:12 |
| apw | one is never sure if one should close it in the meeting page, or just report it in the meeting | 16:12 |
| bjf | apw, i'll take care of it on the meeting page, i don't think it needs to be reported out | 16:31 |
| apw | works for me | 16:31 |
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| bjf | ## | 16:40 |
| bjf | ## Kernel team meeting in 20 minutes | 16:40 |
| bjf | ## | 16:40 |
| cking | where is the day going?! | 16:40 |
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| bjf | ## | 16:55 |
| bjf | ## Kernel team meeting in 5 minutes | 16:55 |
| bjf | ## | 16:55 |
| smb | jjohansen, Hm, we do not have pv-grub for lucid-ec, have we? | 17:17 |
| jjohansen | no. Luicd is not pv-grub | 17:17 |
| jjohansen | maverick is the first pv-grub kernel | 17:17 |
| jjohansen | though a lucid kernel will boot inside of a maverick pv-grub instance | 17:18 |
| smb | jjohansen, Then this is the occasion where you can teach me how to test lucid-ec kernels ;) | 17:18 |
| smb | or do you just do that (lucid on maverick) | 17:18 |
| jjohansen | smb: no we do a whole install, bundle and upload for lucid | 17:19 |
| smb | I see | 17:19 |
| JFo | <-lunch | 17:27 |
| smb | bjf, Do you know whether lucid-ec2 went to updates along with the main kernel or will that get handled sperately? | 17:40 |
| bjf | smb, i believe pitti was going to hold ec2 back to give it more testing | 17:41 |
| smb | ok | 17:43 |
| smb | bjf, thanks | 17:43 |
| jendap | hi, I can't boot ubuntu ... it drops to busybox and can't find any harddrive - i.e. ls /dev/disk finds nothing as well as /dev/sd* | 17:48 |
| jendap | the problem is I'm running maverick and I'm not doing anything fancy on this machine as it's my main working machine | 17:48 |
| jendap | is it possible that some of the latest updates would just break initrafs or vmlinuz the way it can't find disks on dell workstation? | 17:49 |
| smb | jendap, There have been problems with creating the initrd sometimes | 17:49 |
| smb | Are you able to boot into an older kernel | 17:50 |
| jendap | btw: the compuer was not restarted for five days, today electricity went out and after it it did not boot again | 17:50 |
| jendap | old 2.6.32 boots | 17:50 |
| jendap | reinstaling 2.6.35 does not help | 17:50 |
| smb | Have you tried running update-initramfs | 17:50 |
| jendap | I assume it's run automatically by reinstalling all linux-* packages, right? | 17:51 |
| smb | would be something like "sudo update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.35-25-generic" | 17:51 |
| jendap | smb: thanks, I'll try it and reboot ... I'll be back in a minute | 17:52 |
| smb | jendap, ok. not sure it is done automatically when there is the same version already installed | 17:53 |
| jendap | smb: no change :( | 17:59 |
| smb | Hm. Any error messages during boot? Or in dmesg? | 17:59 |
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| jendap | nothing obvious | 18:00 |
| smb | The result with busybox and no devices sounds a bit like a udev problem on boot. | 18:02 |
| jendap | yes | 18:02 |
| smb | When there were those problems, people would see some message about udevadm | 18:02 |
| jendap | ok, is it possible to mount usb flash disk from busybox? | 18:03 |
| jendap | it should be, right? | 18:03 |
| smb | depends | 18:03 |
| smb | if udev is broken there is no automatic load of usb-storage | 18:03 |
| jendap | I would save the dmesg output ;-) | 18:03 |
| smb | you could try to modprobe it and see | 18:04 |
| smb | also maybe try to call udevadm trigger | 18:04 |
| jendap | ok, I'll be back soon | 18:04 |
| jendap | uudevadm trigger? how? | 18:04 |
| jendap | oh, its just a command, sorry ;-) | 18:05 |
| smb | yep :) np | 18:05 |
| jendap | ok, I'll be back.. | 18:05 |
| zul | smb: ping can you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/676245 its blocking UEC testing on natty | 18:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 676245 in linux (Ubuntu) "Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 not recognised on install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] | 18:27 |
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| jendap | smb: there's no usb-storage, there's only usbhid driver within initramfs | 18:29 |
| jendap | so I don't know how to get dmesg from there ... unless I modify initrafs | 18:30 |
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| jendap | I have to go now, I'll try different kernel tomorrow (perhaps the one form natty) or I just use the old one | 18:30 |
| smb | jendap, That is strange. Sounds a bit like generating the initrds is not right | 18:32 |
| smb | jendap, Probably check the file size of the old and new ones | 18:33 |
| smb | whether there is a huge difference | 18:33 |
| jendap | smb: that's a good idea! :-) that's it | 18:33 |
| jendap | the new one has half the size | 18:33 |
| smb | oh and have you /boot in a separate partition? | 18:33 |
| smb | (just for generally checking there is enough free space) | 18:34 |
| smb | df -h | 18:34 |
| jendap | no | 18:34 |
| jendap | about 100G free | 18:34 |
| smb | Ok, at least that is not a problem then | 18:34 |
| jendap | I don't know how this automatic initramfs generation works ... is it in the wiki? | 18:36 |
| smb | it is using the same command (update-initramfs), so you should be able to use that until the initrd looks reasonable | 18:37 |
| smb | Seems the ones I have are all around 11M | 18:38 |
| jendap | smb: ok, that's fine ... I'll fix it tomorrow | 18:38 |
| smb | Lucid ones were 14M | 18:38 |
| smb | jendap, ok | 18:39 |
| jendap | I just feared it might be problem for more users, but it seems it's not ;-) | 18:39 |
| jendap | smb: thanks! | 18:39 |
| smb | jendap, Have not heard something yet. you are welcome | 18:39 |
| smb | jendap, Oh jsut one thing | 18:41 |
| jendap | yes | 18:41 |
| smb | The version number I used for the update-initramfs was just an example | 18:41 |
| smb | You would have to use the same as the kernel you want to create the initrd for | 18:42 |
| smb | Probably 2.6.35-23-generic | 18:42 |
| jendap | I've noticed ;-) | 18:42 |
| smb | ok | 18:42 |
| jendap | thanks | 18:42 |
| smb | Just relaized and wanted to make sure :) | 18:42 |
| * smb was mixing Lucid numbers with Maverick number | 18:42 | |
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| === bjf changed the topic of #ubuntu-kernel to: Home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/ || Maverick Kernel Version: 2.6.35 || Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - November-30 - 17:00 UTC || If you have a question just ask, and do wait around for an answer! | ||
| lubosz | hi. is there an automatic way to disable as much as unneeded modules possible in the kernel config, to shorten build time? | 18:58 |
| lubosz | is there a possibility to not rebuild everything with make-kpkg every time i pull small changes or make small config changes? | 18:59 |
| komputes | JFo: Heya, could you please have a quick look at Bug#670181 | 19:02 |
| komputes | err Bug #670181 | 19:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 670181 in linux (Ubuntu) "Dell Precision M6300 SD Card Reader (Ricoh R5C592 memory stick) Will Not Mount After Upgrade To 10.10 (affects: 2) (heat: 190)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/670181 | 19:03 |
| * JFo looks | 19:03 | |
| JFo | hmmm | 19:04 |
| ogasawara | smb: tgardner coincidentally pinged about the intel_idle stable bits from Len yesterday. I'm prepping a Lucid and Maverick LBM update to provide intel_idle based on Len's trees. | 19:08 |
| smb | ogasawara, Heh. Ok. Hm, is intel_idle then something to go on the frankenpage as well? | 19:08 |
| komputes | JFo: just sent you additional info via email | 19:08 |
| ogasawara | smb: I think if we throw it into LBM it doesn't need to go on the frankepage | 19:09 |
| ogasawara | smb: because it's an elective install at that point | 19:09 |
| smb | ogasawara, nope. thats right | 19:09 |
| smb | ogasawara, Missed to read the LBM part sorry | 19:09 |
| JFo | komputes, what is a spider script? | 19:13 |
| komputes | JFo: info gathering, we use internally | 19:15 |
| komputes | JFo: We develop it ourselves. I can send you a copy if you wish - only 34k | 19:16 |
| komputes | We've been wanting to package/ppa it for a while | 19:16 |
| JFo | just not familiar with it | 19:16 |
| JFo | so not sure what to expect | 19:16 |
| JFo | komputes, maybe a look at the script would help :) | 19:18 |
| komputes | JFo: sent | 19:18 |
| JFo | thanks :) | 19:18 |
| komputes | JFo: most of the useful stuff is in misc | 19:19 |
| komputes | and pretty self-explanitory | 19:19 |
| JFo | ok | 19:19 |
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| * tgardner lunches | 19:25 | |
| * jjohansen lunches | 20:01 | |
| tgardner | apw, did you really mean to push all this cruft onto natty master ? I've got master-next ready to go | 20:29 |
| apw | tgardner, yep, thats the stuff i am happy with | 20:29 |
| * apw checks he hasn't spannered | 20:30 | |
| tgardner | apw, but did you want to carry it on master? Its likely not buildable without some ignore.modules scaterred around | 20:30 |
| apw | tgardner, there is actually very little on there | 20:31 |
| apw | mostly a few additional modules for architectures, no subtractions | 20:32 |
| apw | and i have built it all | 20:32 |
| apw | it may seem vastly different as i have been rebasing to drop some old cruft which was interfereing | 20:32 |
| tgardner | apw, indeed? It looks like a bunch of modules got built in, so I would have expected the module check to break. | 20:32 |
| apw | yeah you have a point, but it id | 20:33 |
| apw | but meh | 20:33 |
| apw | i'll get it building here and fix it up | 20:34 |
| apw | tgardner, go ahead and push your bits to master-next and i'll clean master | 20:34 |
| tgardner | apw, start with master-next | 20:34 |
| tgardner | apw, its already up to date | 20:34 |
| apw | tgardner, ta | 20:35 |
| apw | tgardner, master next is well out of date | 20:37 |
| apw | tgardner, at least whats in ubuntu-natty is | 20:37 |
| apw | it matches my backup bracnh and pretty old | 20:37 |
| tgardner | apw, so you squashed a bunch of commits on master? | 20:38 |
| apw | tgardner, i dropped some old stuff yes, and cleaned up some interacting patches which were wrong | 20:39 |
| apw | tgardner, is that what you have on master-next ? | 20:40 |
| tgardner | apw, so I should reset master-next HEAD ? | 20:40 |
| apw | commit fb50c8fef0760976d24e3f9c25de53de9cf8a5e4 | 20:40 |
| apw | Author: Kees Cook <kees@ubuntu.com> | 20:40 |
| apw | Date: Sat Nov 20 23:03:42 2010 -0800 | 20:40 |
| apw | nx-emu: fix inverted report of disable_nx | 20:40 |
| apw | commit 060cf10ad9b66e7ffbdf4c3d8c893c66e4315f8b | 20:41 |
| apw | Author: Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com> | 20:41 |
| apw | Date: Tue Nov 23 17:41:36 2010 +0000 | 20:41 |
| apw | Revert "UBUNTU: [Upstream] USB: option: Remove duplicate AMOI_VENDOR_ID" | 20:41 |
| apw | tgardner, that is the known good tip | 20:41 |
| apw | it should diff almost identicle to master-next | 20:41 |
| tgardner | ok, I'll just slam master-next HEAD and start over | 20:42 |
| apw | some reordering and extra ##'s in ubuntu/Makefile ubuntu/Kconfig | 20:42 |
| apw | it is now possible to drop an ubuntu/driver and not have to handle the fallout from all the collissions | 20:42 |
| apw | tgardner, feel free to just push master-next as you have it | 20:43 |
| apw | if you have new stuff on there | 20:43 |
| apw | i can handle extracting them, as i know the tip as is | 20:43 |
| apw | in the meantime i'll sort out the modules.list | 20:43 |
| tgardner | tomorrow lets chat about how we're gonna use master-next | 20:43 |
| apw | tgardner, sure ... i am currently using it more as an incoming queue | 20:44 |
| tgardner | I'm gonna go back to porting SID auto-cgroups to Lucid | 20:45 |
| apw | tgardner, is there going to be anything dropped on master-next ? | 20:45 |
| tgardner | apw, nothing important. | 20:45 |
| apw | tgardner, ok ... | 20:47 |
| apw | yeah i am sort of assuming that to do the very invasive things i am doing right now that i need to do those somewhere other than where incoming new bits are going, cause i am making a huge mess :) | 20:48 |
| apw | tgardner, ahh i see why my testing worked ... we have no abi files right now cause of all the bad kernels in the last few uploads | 20:49 |
| tgardner | apw, right. I was startnewrelease and adding some ignores. | 20:50 |
| apw | obvious and stupid of me, | 20:50 |
| tgardner | just crank turning. you can trash master-next and make it look the way you want | 20:51 |
| apw | will do | 20:51 |
| tgardner | bjf, I'm looking at maverick-meta. don't forget ogasawara's pull request for the media packages | 20:52 |
| tgardner | likely the same for lucid-meta | 20:52 |
| ogasawara | bjf, tgardner: just fyi, I'd only done the media packages for maverick | 20:53 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, what ABI did those media packages go out with? | 20:54 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: lemme check | 20:55 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, doesn't look like its gone out yet | 20:56 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: 2.6.35-23.13 | 20:56 |
| bjf | tgardner, you have it "under review" in patchworks (actually, i'd missed it so thanks for the reminder) | 20:56 |
| tgardner | bjf, I've acked both the LBM and meta pulls | 20:56 |
| tgardner | ogasawara, there ain't no 'UBUNTU: upstream IR updates' in the Maverick LBM repo, so I don't think its been pulled yet. | 20:57 |
| ogasawara | tgardner: you're right, was looking at my repo and thought they'd been pulled | 20:58 |
| tgardner | bjf, would you like me to do the packaging and upload for Maverick LBM and meta ? | 20:58 |
| bjf | tgardner, the easy answer would be yes, however, I need the practice | 20:59 |
| tgardner | bjf, you'll have to futz with maverick meta since smb has already rolled the ABI for pre-proposed | 20:59 |
| GrueMaster | I see some updates for dove just got submitted to -proposed. Will test them Monday when I return home, unless someone else has a system to test them on. | 21:51 |
| GrueMaster | As to omap4 kernel testing, I am currently testing the fix for bug 673504, but after a couple of ifconfig usb0 down|up commands, the driver appears to hang. Currently investigating. Does anyone have a script for testing ifup|ifdown? | 21:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 673504 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Pandaboard chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 2) (heat: 20)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673504 | 21:53 |
| GrueMaster | Nevermind. Wrote my own. I'll post it to the bug above. Seems to be working ok. | 22:31 |
| * jjohansen steps away for a bit | 22:45 | |
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