=== virtuald is now known as leagris === leagris is now known as virtuald === ericm|ubuntu is now known as ericm-lunch === ericm-lunch is now known as ericm === smb` is now known as smb [08:34] morning [08:47] smb: Good morning! [08:49] morning smb [08:50] jjohansen, heya [08:51] jjohansen, One could say good morning to you as well. :) Though good night usually is more appropriate. ;) [08:51] :) [08:52] jjohansen, Any news from the sky? [08:53] (iow how's the clouds looking) [08:53] I haven't looked up yet [08:54] its just been one of those days [08:54] You mean there is too much rain coming down to see any cloulds. :) [09:02] its snowing [09:02] both literally and figuratively [09:03] I would prefer snow to the cold rain here [09:03] yeah, snow is kind of nice, its been cold drizzle for the last week [09:03] I don't expect the snow to last [10:16] shame, no skiing down the west hills then? [10:17] hrmm, there just might be [10:17] its almost enough to cover the grass here, so the west hills should have a fair bit more [10:46] apw, could someone from the kernel team have look at bug 511747 (specifically comments 43-45) it seems that the two lines would make additional HW work with maverick so i would think it makes sense to add that as SRU [10:46] Launchpad bug 511747 in xf86-input-evtouch (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "support for Acer 1420P (affects: 6) (heat: 37)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511747 [10:47] (teh fix seems to be upstream too already) [10:51] BAH patchworks is in a HEAP [10:53] thats why i'm püatch pilot today ;) [10:53] *patch [10:54] seems that bug is falsely filed against evtouch and the patches are super trivial [10:55] ogra, well get it over on to linux at a minimum [10:58] apw, done [10:59] ogra, can't look at the stupid patch as patchworks is a heap [10:59] but if its upstream someone can send the patch to the kernel-team list to get it reviewed [10:59] well, but you can look at the patches on the bug [10:59] * ogra adds a comment about this [11:00] * smb walks off [11:01] * jjohansen waves good night [11:01] do we have a wikipage that mentions how to get a patch into the ubuntu kernel ? [11:01] * ogra cant find anything [11:02] * ogra finds a million pages on how to compile your own kernel, but no instructions on how to supply a patch the proper way [11:04] ah, that seems to mention a policy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/KernelGitGuide?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam/KernelGitGuide#Pushing changes to the main repo [11:04] ogra, have you tried the FAQ ? [11:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/FAQ#Can I get a patch included in the Ubuntu Kernel? / How can I submit a patch to the Ubuntu Kernel? [11:05] funny that neither google nor the wiki search spit that out [11:06] the wiki search SUCKS, i am supprised at google though [11:49] ogra, i've found and pasted the official upstream commit into that bug [11:49] awesome [12:34] I got the latest version of linux kernel with me... How to compile and run it?.. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === GrueMaster_ is now known as GrueMaster [13:06] CKING get out today? *splash* [13:06] apw_, will do [13:07] Good man [13:07] cking, I am already back and apw_ just hit the pool [13:07] is eating lunch classified as exercise? [13:07] Yep dripping in the cafe [13:07] cking, No, just if you walk an hour around it [13:07] Cheek [13:09] cking, You can upgrade your android while walking. ;) [13:09] Yeah got a 2.2.1 update today [13:10] And it still works [13:12] apw_, We probably have not checked on all the ringtones yet [13:12] But at least it booted [13:34] tgardner, /me is uploading the natty lts backport [13:34] apw, thanks [13:35] we had a random buildd build failure last night on i386 so the main kernel is lagging [13:35] apw, don't forget the -meta package [13:35] we've had some ABI bumps [13:37] apw, interesting email from persia re: Introducing Products [13:37] tgardner, yep, though i am holding the abi bump til this build finishes as all of the -6's are dangerous one way or another till this one finishes [14:03] JFo, about ? [14:09] Hi there is a meeting I guess at UTC 1700 will Kernel People also be attending that [14:09] I mean Ubuntu Kernel people [14:16] jtapas, yes the meeting today at 17:00 is for the ubuntu-kernel-team to discuss progress and issues [14:17] ok [14:18] the place from where I will be online has frequent powercuts if I get disconnected at that time then where can I see logs [14:18] of meeting [14:19] jtapas, irclogs.ubuntu.com [14:19] ok [15:00] smb, heads up that I have added a patch to your ubuntu-delta review list, one which snuck into the mainline list [15:01] apw, Guess I'll have a look then. Thanks [15:21] skaet, where would you like to meet this a.m.? [15:22] bjf, can we use one of the kernel mumble areas? [15:22] skaet, works for me, the "usual" place? [15:22] bjf, heh, indeed. will update the invite. ;) === ogra_ac_ is now known as ogra_ac === smb` is now known as smb [15:49] bjf: am going to miss the irc meeting this morning. am gonna try to get to my appt without having to drive so gotta leave now. [15:50] ogasawara, understood, lets do the hw handoff some other day [15:50] bjf: sounds good [16:08] ## [16:08] ## Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - Today @ 17:00 UTC - #ubuntu-meeting [16:08] ## agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting [16:08] ## [16:10] bjf +50 mins correct ? [16:10] apw, ack [16:11] apw, you have an open action item: "Create work items for ARM testing" [16:12] bjf, that is done, the work item is on the none-kernel-n-misc and assigned to canonical-arm [16:12] apw, cool [16:12] one is never sure if one should close it in the meeting page, or just report it in the meeting [16:31] apw, i'll take care of it on the meeting page, i don't think it needs to be reported out [16:31] works for me === mjg59` is now known as mjg59 [16:40] ## [16:40] ## Kernel team meeting in 20 minutes [16:40] ## [16:40] where is the day going?! === diwic is now known as diwic_afk [16:55] ## [16:55] ## Kernel team meeting in 5 minutes [16:55] ## [17:17] jjohansen, Hm, we do not have pv-grub for lucid-ec, have we? [17:17] no. Luicd is not pv-grub [17:17] maverick is the first pv-grub kernel [17:18] though a lucid kernel will boot inside of a maverick pv-grub instance [17:18] jjohansen, Then this is the occasion where you can teach me how to test lucid-ec kernels ;) [17:18] or do you just do that (lucid on maverick) [17:19] smb: no we do a whole install, bundle and upload for lucid [17:19] I see [17:27] <-lunch [17:40] bjf, Do you know whether lucid-ec2 went to updates along with the main kernel or will that get handled sperately? [17:41] smb, i believe pitti was going to hold ec2 back to give it more testing [17:43] ok [17:43] bjf, thanks [17:48] hi, I can't boot ubuntu ... it drops to busybox and can't find any harddrive - i.e. ls /dev/disk finds nothing as well as /dev/sd* [17:48] the problem is I'm running maverick and I'm not doing anything fancy on this machine as it's my main working machine [17:49] is it possible that some of the latest updates would just break initrafs or vmlinuz the way it can't find disks on dell workstation? [17:49] jendap, There have been problems with creating the initrd sometimes [17:50] Are you able to boot into an older kernel [17:50] btw: the compuer was not restarted for five days, today electricity went out and after it it did not boot again [17:50] old 2.6.32 boots [17:50] reinstaling 2.6.35 does not help [17:50] Have you tried running update-initramfs [17:51] I assume it's run automatically by reinstalling all linux-* packages, right? [17:51] would be something like "sudo update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.35-25-generic" [17:52] smb: thanks, I'll try it and reboot ... I'll be back in a minute [17:53] jendap, ok. not sure it is done automatically when there is the same version already installed [17:59] smb: no change :( [17:59] Hm. Any error messages during boot? Or in dmesg? === cmagina is now known as cmagina-lunch [18:00] nothing obvious [18:02] The result with busybox and no devices sounds a bit like a udev problem on boot. [18:02] yes [18:02] When there were those problems, people would see some message about udevadm [18:03] ok, is it possible to mount usb flash disk from busybox? [18:03] it should be, right? [18:03] depends [18:03] if udev is broken there is no automatic load of usb-storage [18:03] I would save the dmesg output ;-) [18:04] you could try to modprobe it and see [18:04] also maybe try to call udevadm trigger [18:04] ok, I'll be back soon [18:04] uudevadm trigger? how? [18:05] oh, its just a command, sorry ;-) [18:05] yep :) np [18:05] ok, I'll be back.. [18:27] smb: ping can you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/676245 its blocking UEC testing on natty [18:27] Launchpad bug 676245 in linux (Ubuntu) "Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5709 not recognised on install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina [18:29] smb: there's no usb-storage, there's only usbhid driver within initramfs [18:30] so I don't know how to get dmesg from there ... unless I modify initrafs === cmagina is now known as cmagina-meeting [18:30] I have to go now, I'll try different kernel tomorrow (perhaps the one form natty) or I just use the old one [18:32] jendap, That is strange. Sounds a bit like generating the initrds is not right [18:33] jendap, Probably check the file size of the old and new ones [18:33] whether there is a huge difference [18:33] smb: that's a good idea! :-) that's it [18:33] the new one has half the size [18:33] oh and have you /boot in a separate partition? [18:34] (just for generally checking there is enough free space) [18:34] df -h [18:34] no [18:34] about 100G free [18:34] Ok, at least that is not a problem then [18:36] I don't know how this automatic initramfs generation works ... is it in the wiki? [18:37] it is using the same command (update-initramfs), so you should be able to use that until the initrd looks reasonable [18:38] Seems the ones I have are all around 11M [18:38] smb: ok, that's fine ... I'll fix it tomorrow [18:38] Lucid ones were 14M [18:39] jendap, ok [18:39] I just feared it might be problem for more users, but it seems it's not ;-) [18:39] smb: thanks! [18:39] jendap, Have not heard something yet. you are welcome [18:41] jendap, Oh jsut one thing [18:41] yes [18:41] The version number I used for the update-initramfs was just an example [18:42] You would have to use the same as the kernel you want to create the initrd for [18:42] Probably 2.6.35-23-generic [18:42] I've noticed ;-) [18:42] ok [18:42] thanks [18:42] Just relaized and wanted to make sure :) [18:42] * smb was mixing Lucid numbers with Maverick number === maxb_ is now known as maxb === bjf changed the topic of #ubuntu-kernel to: Home: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/ || Maverick Kernel Version: 2.6.35 || Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting - November-30 - 17:00 UTC || If you have a question just ask, and do wait around for an answer! [18:58] hi. is there an automatic way to disable as much as unneeded modules possible in the kernel config, to shorten build time? [18:59] is there a possibility to not rebuild everything with make-kpkg every time i pull small changes or make small config changes? [19:02] JFo: Heya, could you please have a quick look at Bug#670181 [19:02] err Bug #670181 [19:03] Launchpad bug 670181 in linux (Ubuntu) "Dell Precision M6300 SD Card Reader (Ricoh R5C592 memory stick) Will Not Mount After Upgrade To 10.10 (affects: 2) (heat: 190)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/670181 [19:03] * JFo looks [19:04] hmmm [19:08] smb: tgardner coincidentally pinged about the intel_idle stable bits from Len yesterday. I'm prepping a Lucid and Maverick LBM update to provide intel_idle based on Len's trees. [19:08] ogasawara, Heh. Ok. Hm, is intel_idle then something to go on the frankenpage as well? [19:08] JFo: just sent you additional info via email [19:09] smb: I think if we throw it into LBM it doesn't need to go on the frankepage [19:09] smb: because it's an elective install at that point [19:09] ogasawara, nope. thats right [19:09] ogasawara, Missed to read the LBM part sorry [19:13] komputes, what is a spider script? [19:15] JFo: info gathering, we use internally [19:16] JFo: We develop it ourselves. I can send you a copy if you wish - only 34k [19:16] We've been wanting to package/ppa it for a while [19:16] just not familiar with it [19:16] so not sure what to expect [19:18] komputes, maybe a look at the script would help :) [19:18] JFo: sent [19:18] thanks :) [19:19] JFo: most of the useful stuff is in misc [19:19] and pretty self-explanitory [19:19] ok === jcrigby_ is now known as jcrigby [19:25] * tgardner lunches [20:01] * jjohansen lunches [20:29] apw, did you really mean to push all this cruft onto natty master ? I've got master-next ready to go [20:29] tgardner, yep, thats the stuff i am happy with [20:30] * apw checks he hasn't spannered [20:30] apw, but did you want to carry it on master? Its likely not buildable without some ignore.modules scaterred around [20:31] tgardner, there is actually very little on there [20:32] mostly a few additional modules for architectures, no subtractions [20:32] and i have built it all [20:32] it may seem vastly different as i have been rebasing to drop some old cruft which was interfereing [20:32] apw, indeed? It looks like a bunch of modules got built in, so I would have expected the module check to break. [20:33] yeah you have a point, but it id [20:33] but meh [20:34] i'll get it building here and fix it up [20:34] tgardner, go ahead and push your bits to master-next and i'll clean master [20:34] apw, start with master-next [20:34] apw, its already up to date [20:35] tgardner, ta [20:37] tgardner, master next is well out of date [20:37] tgardner, at least whats in ubuntu-natty is [20:37] it matches my backup bracnh and pretty old [20:38] apw, so you squashed a bunch of commits on master? [20:39] tgardner, i dropped some old stuff yes, and cleaned up some interacting patches which were wrong [20:40] tgardner, is that what you have on master-next ? [20:40] apw, so I should reset master-next HEAD ? [20:40] commit fb50c8fef0760976d24e3f9c25de53de9cf8a5e4 [20:40] Author: Kees Cook [20:40] Date: Sat Nov 20 23:03:42 2010 -0800 [20:40] nx-emu: fix inverted report of disable_nx [20:41] commit 060cf10ad9b66e7ffbdf4c3d8c893c66e4315f8b [20:41] Author: Andy Whitcroft [20:41] Date: Tue Nov 23 17:41:36 2010 +0000 [20:41] Revert "UBUNTU: [Upstream] USB: option: Remove duplicate AMOI_VENDOR_ID" [20:41] tgardner, that is the known good tip [20:41] it should diff almost identicle to master-next [20:42] ok, I'll just slam master-next HEAD and start over [20:42] some reordering and extra ##'s in ubuntu/Makefile ubuntu/Kconfig [20:42] it is now possible to drop an ubuntu/driver and not have to handle the fallout from all the collissions [20:43] tgardner, feel free to just push master-next as you have it [20:43] if you have new stuff on there [20:43] i can handle extracting them, as i know the tip as is [20:43] in the meantime i'll sort out the modules.list [20:43] tomorrow lets chat about how we're gonna use master-next [20:44] tgardner, sure ... i am currently using it more as an incoming queue [20:45] I'm gonna go back to porting SID auto-cgroups to Lucid [20:45] tgardner, is there going to be anything dropped on master-next ? [20:45] apw, nothing important. [20:47] tgardner, ok ... [20:48] yeah i am sort of assuming that to do the very invasive things i am doing right now that i need to do those somewhere other than where incoming new bits are going, cause i am making a huge mess :) [20:49] tgardner, ahh i see why my testing worked ... we have no abi files right now cause of all the bad kernels in the last few uploads [20:50] apw, right. I was startnewrelease and adding some ignores. [20:50] obvious and stupid of me, [20:51] just crank turning. you can trash master-next and make it look the way you want [20:51] will do [20:52] bjf, I'm looking at maverick-meta. don't forget ogasawara's pull request for the media packages [20:52] likely the same for lucid-meta [20:53] bjf, tgardner: just fyi, I'd only done the media packages for maverick [20:54] ogasawara, what ABI did those media packages go out with? [20:55] tgardner: lemme check [20:56] ogasawara, doesn't look like its gone out yet [20:56] tgardner: 2.6.35-23.13 [20:56] tgardner, you have it "under review" in patchworks (actually, i'd missed it so thanks for the reminder) [20:56] bjf, I've acked both the LBM and meta pulls [20:57] ogasawara, there ain't no 'UBUNTU: upstream IR updates' in the Maverick LBM repo, so I don't think its been pulled yet. [20:58] tgardner: you're right, was looking at my repo and thought they'd been pulled [20:58] bjf, would you like me to do the packaging and upload for Maverick LBM and meta ? [20:59] tgardner, the easy answer would be yes, however, I need the practice [20:59] bjf, you'll have to futz with maverick meta since smb has already rolled the ABI for pre-proposed [21:51] I see some updates for dove just got submitted to -proposed. Will test them Monday when I return home, unless someone else has a system to test them on. [21:53] As to omap4 kernel testing, I am currently testing the fix for bug 673504, but after a couple of ifconfig usb0 down|up commands, the driver appears to hang. Currently investigating. Does anyone have a script for testing ifup|ifdown? [21:53] Launchpad bug 673504 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Pandaboard chooses a new IP address on each boot (affects: 2) (heat: 20)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/673504 [22:31] Nevermind. Wrote my own. I'll post it to the bug above. Seems to be working ok. [22:45] * jjohansen steps away for a bit