[08:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I believe thunderbird.lucid is good to go
[09:00] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I just pushed the changes, the simplified migrator script seems to be working, the shell output is more accurate as well
[09:09] <micahg> \o/ people are reporting bugs against the PPA in the PPA bugs project :)
[09:48] <chrisccoulson> micahg - cool, i will test tbird and get it uploaded this morning
[09:48] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[09:50] <micahg> chrisccoulson: and I just uploaded to tb-stable, I'll upload enigmail and lightning there later
[09:50] <micahg> I guess I could even push the locales up there as well
[09:52] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'd like to find time over the holiday weekend to get thunderbird-trunk up and running
[09:56] <micahg> chrisccoulson: would you like to be subscribed to the tb-stable branch?
[09:56] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, can do
[09:56] <micahg> attribute and revisions?
[09:57] <micahg> wow, my first major firefox crash in a long while (beta 7 :()
[09:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson: is the crash reporter disabled for the PPA build?
[10:01] <chrisccoulson> micahg - it's not enabled in application.ini, primarily because there is a limited amount of space on the server for the symbols
[10:02] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok, that's fine, just wanted to make sure there wasn't a bug
[10:02] <micahg> chrisccoulson: so, is it just natty and the daily builds?
[10:02] <chrisccoulson> yeah, that's intentional. we're already uploading quite a lot of symbols
[10:02] <chrisccoulson> it's enabled for maverick / natty ff-4.0 dailies, natty release and lucid/maverick security
[10:03] <micahg> ooh, security too, cool
[10:03]  * micahg really needs sleep, but still needs to finish some work
[10:04] <micahg> chrisccoulson: do you see 1.2GB of resident memory usage in b7?
[10:04] <micahg> or in the dailies?
[10:04] <chrisccoulson> micahg - not that i've noticed
[10:04] <chrisccoulson> micahg - what does about:memory show?
[10:04] <micahg> I've got about 70 or 80 tabs open with the tab groups, but b6 usage wasn't this bad until it was runnign for about a day
[10:05] <micahg> oh, wow, cool, didn't know about that
[10:05] <micahg> malloc/committed1,085,276,160
[10:05] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i only noticed it when i was looking at something in the about redirect code a few days ago ;)
[10:05] <chrisccoulson> that's quite a lot, but 70 tabs is quite heavy usage too ;)
[10:06] <micahg> I wish the tab groups unloaded stuff like TooManyTabs did
[10:06] <chrisccoulson> toomanytabs was cheating though, that's just bookmarks displayed as tabs really ;)
[10:07] <micahg> chrisccoulson: with history preserved :)
[10:07] <chrisccoulson> ah, i didn't know that
[10:07] <micahg> that's all I need really anyways
[10:08] <micahg> It's basically collections of sites usable together (Mozilla, Debian, Ubuntu, SRU...(
[10:09] <micahg> chrisccoulson: re ubufox, I was just going to remove it in the PPA unless we're going to upload ubufox to the beta PPA
[10:10] <chrisccoulson> micahg - i don't mind too much really
[10:10] <chrisccoulson> i still need asac to merge my changes :)
[10:11] <chrisccoulson> oh, i can see why xr-2.0 builds on natty now
[10:11] <chrisccoulson> --disable-tests ;)
[10:11] <chrisccoulson> it's the test binaries that aren't linking
[10:12] <micahg> heh,  ok, I wasn't sure how to fix static linking
[10:50] <gnomefreak> is xul192 still FTBFS on Natty?
[10:51]  * gnomefreak smoke
[10:58] <fta> gnomefreak, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/ppa-dashboard/ubuntu-mozilla-daily--ppa.html
[10:58] <fta> so yes
[11:00] <gnomefreak> thanks
[11:07] <fta> dpm, hi. fyi, i've dropped two templates a few days ago, they are still in lp (while they are supposed to disappear): https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/translations/+lang/es
[11:08] <dpm> hi fta, let's ask henninge on #launchpad
[11:09] <gnomefreak> i set chromium as default in "preferred apps and both settings in update-alternatives and links are still opening with minefeild
[11:10] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, known issue
[11:13] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: thanks
[11:24] <gnomefreak> seems its not just chromium
[11:26] <fta> really? works for me
[11:27] <gnomefreak> set it to any browser and only minefeild opes. i have tried everything i have installed (opera,chromium,seamonky, firefox)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> s/opes/opens
[11:28] <gnomefreak> i am not fully up to date but it is a known problem so im assuming new version is borked as well.
[11:28]  * gnomefreak doin gupdates now
[11:30] <gnomefreak> fta: daily build in natty or maverick/
[11:30] <gnomefreak> s//s?
[11:32] <fta> all should work, i've landed the fix months ago in ch 6
[11:33] <chrisccoulson> fta - the issue that gnomefreak has is that the control-center dialog is setting the wrong preference now
[11:33] <fta> but gnome3 is changing lots of stuff in natty
[11:33] <fta> oh
[11:33] <gnomefreak> gnome hasnt changed yet AFAIK
[11:34] <fta> well, could be bug 670128 thne
[11:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 670128 in xdg-utils (Fedora) (and 4 other projects) "gnome-open uses firefox while it's not the preferred browser (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 16)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/670128
[11:34] <chrisccoulson> fta - it has, we've got a new glib which changes this behaviour a lot
[11:34] <chrisccoulson> oops
[11:34] <chrisccoulson> that was directed at gnomefreak ;)
[11:34] <chrisccoulson> fta - yeah, that's the bug
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ah i didnt think it changed much of anything yet
[11:35] <gnomefreak> i dont notice anything yet
[11:35] <fta> chrisccoulson, upstream told me it's a packaging bug in gnome and that i'm fine with what's i've done in chromium (just need to land it in stable to close the ch task)
[11:36] <chrisccoulson> fta - yeah, as long as chromium is using xdg-settings, then there's nothing else for you to do
[11:38] <micahg> and on that note, I think I need to go to sleep
[11:38] <chrisccoulson> 'night micahg!
[11:39] <micahg> dark for another hour or so :-/
[11:39] <gnomefreak> night micahg
[11:39] <micahg> but thanks :)
[11:39] <gnomefreak> here too for the most part
[11:40]  * gnomefreak getting tired but still has shit to do
[11:41] <gnomefreak> *--configure -a is my friend i run it atlease 8 times
[11:43] <gnomefreak> software-center is also broken for me
[11:48] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, the natty xul-192 build will start to work again tonight
[12:00] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:00] <gnomefreak> that is odd
[12:07] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.2.head/revision/580
[12:07] <chrisccoulson> that should fix the build issues
[12:11] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: thanks you know 2.0 is also broke
[12:11] <gnomefreak> assuming same bug
[12:12] <chrisccoulson> i doubt it's the same bug
[12:12] <gnomefreak> oh ok i just know itis same symtoms
[12:13] <chrisccoulson> really? xulrunner-2.0 is working fine here, and has done for a while. the current build failure is because of a packaging change i made yesterday
[12:13]  * gnomefreak only on coffee #1 going to get #2 now
[12:13] <gnomefreak> 2.0 broke the same time 192 did and same way
[12:14] <chrisccoulson> "broke"?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> broke. wont configure
[12:15]  * gnomefreak geting tired of using dpkg --configure -a
[12:16] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, that has been fixed weeks ago (and it's running fine in the buildd's, as the test suite is running ok)
[12:25] <gnomefreak> i have to hit ^C for xul192 xul2 and software center
[12:37] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: here is the list of apps that wont configure most cuased by both xul packages maybe one or 2 from software center, that wont  configure http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/535529/
[13:14] <fta> chrisccoulson, btw, when you committed 1.9.2.13+build1 to the .head branch, you confused the branch as it's a version higher than what g-o-s got, hence the upload-failed from last night
[13:14] <fta> -confused the branch+confused the bot
[13:16] <chrisccoulson> fta - hmmm, why did g-o-s get a lower version?
[13:17] <fta> usually, when upstream is doing .13 builds, there's already .14pre in trunk
[13:18] <chrisccoulson> fta - yeah, i've just noticed that tip is still .13pre
[13:18] <fta> yep, that's bad
[13:19] <fta> either they're late, or you're too early
[13:25] <chrisccoulson> fta - ok, somebody just forgot to do it ;)
[14:57] <chrisccoulson> fta - http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.2/rev/aa9371c6c23f
[14:58] <fta> \o/
[17:11] <Brownout> did you change the symlink in /usr/bin/firefox-4.0 from absolute to a relative one in 4b7 by any chance?
[17:35] <chrisccoulson> Brownout, yes
[17:35] <chrisccoulson> actually, it's not
[17:36] <chrisccoulson> i made some changes which might have done that, but dh_link just does the right thing
[17:36] <Brownout> for some reason /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser is broken
[17:37] <chrisccoulson> that's nothing to do with symlinks
[17:37] <chrisccoulson> well, it's nothing to do with relative vs absolute
[17:38] <chrisccoulson> i wish alternatives would just go away
[17:38] <fta> +1
[17:38] <chrisccoulson> now i'll have to hardcode the name firefox and firefox-4.0 in the launcher script, just to work around stupid alternatives
[17:38] <chrisccoulson> i was trying to avoid hard-coding everything like that
[17:38] <Brownout> as a terminal user I quite like it
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> i hate it, and it should die:)
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> ok, i'll add a hacky workaround for that
[17:40] <fta> i'm a hardcore terminal user too, but the current situation of default app selection is a mess
[18:07] <Brownout> here's a question I've always wanted to ask: why does every upgrade add back search plugins I couldn't care less?
[18:08] <chrisccoulson> Brownout, because they are installed on the system?
[18:09] <chrisccoulson> i've added a workaround for the alternatives stuff anyway
[18:10] <micahg> Brownout: that was a bug that was supposedly fixed IIRC
[18:11] <chrisccoulson> it depends how they are being removed, i guess
[18:11] <chrisccoulson> if people just delete them from the filesystem, then they will always come back after an upgrade
[18:12] <Brownout> from the "manage search engines" drop down, same user profile
[18:12] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, that should work
[18:13] <micahg> bug 428306
[18:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 428306 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "default search engines are removed and readded (keywords wiped) with upgrade (affects: 33) (dups: 4) (heat: 108)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/428306
[18:13] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I wonder if we lost a patch
[18:14] <chrisccoulson> micahg - yeah, i think i dropped bz534663_attXXX_normalize_distribution_searchplugins.patch
[18:14] <micahg> it's a path issue, they look like new search engines
[18:14] <chrisccoulson> let me check why ;)
[18:20] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, not sure why i dropped that patch
[18:20] <chrisccoulson> i reviewed all the patches and dropped a load of them, but this is the only 1 i didn't note anything down for
[18:22] <chrisccoulson> Brownout, ok, i will re-add the patch i removed to fix that ;)
[18:22] <Brownout> thanks
[18:56] <chrisccoulson> Brownout, ok, fix will be in the next nightly (and natty once i do another upload)
[18:56] <chrisccoulson> for both issues....
[18:56]  * chrisccoulson must do some thunderbird-3.1 testing now
[18:58] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should pretty painless (I hope)
[18:59] <chrisccoulson> yeah, hopefully
[18:59] <chrisccoulson> we should add the new launcher script and profile migrator to the thunderbird package in natty, so we don't have these issues again ;)
[19:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'd like to wait for the next TB release for that (3.2 or 3.3)
[19:02] <chrisccoulson> we could do, but i'm not sure we need to wait for that
[19:03] <micahg> chrisccoulson: migrator won't have any effect in natty ATM anyways, only Lucid and below
[22:17] <BUGabundo> o/
[22:18] <fta> chrisccoulson, i see that desktop-file-utils now adds x-scheme-handler/http=firefox.desktop to /etc/gnome/defaults.list, is that expected? wanted?
[22:19] <chrisccoulson> fta - yeah, that's expected. we're just setting the default handler using the new mechanism now
[22:19] <fta> what if i want something else?
[22:20] <chrisccoulson> fta - you'll be able to change it using existing tools (except that they don't work atm)
[22:20] <fta> like for me, it also replaced acroread with evince for pdf
[22:20] <chrisccoulson> in the meantime, i can tell you how to change it :)
[22:21] <chrisccoulson> you can edit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list, and set the preferred order in there
[22:21] <chrisccoulson> eg "x-scheme-handler/http=chromium.desktop;firefox.desktop;
[22:21] <chrisccoulson> "
[22:22] <fta> looks like it's yet another way to set a default app :(
[22:22] <chrisccoulson> control-center will do that via GIO when we update to the new version
[22:23] <fta> hm, there's something wrong with software-center (3.1.2)
[22:24] <fta> can't complete the upgrade
[22:24] <fta> 100% cpu
[22:24] <fta> root     30965 94.0  1.6  79912 56244 pts/2    R+   23:21   2:54 /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/update-software-center --triggered 3.1.1
[22:24] <fta> from /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/software-center.postinst configure 3.1.1
[22:25] <fta> looks like the xul issue :P
[22:26] <fta> oh, it finally worked