[00:17] New bug: #680301 in eucalyptus "DNS Search Domain in instance /etc/resov.conf should be set by DHCP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/680301 [00:31] nigelb: With lots of pain. [00:32] ScottK: that seems to be the general opinion :( [00:33] I tried letting the debian/rules run, but that didn't really untar it. [00:38] my apt is screwed [00:38] Oh, BTW... [00:38] Got my server fixed. [00:39] The Ubuntu 10.04.1 "rescue broken system" options let me do everything I needed. Thanks Ubuntu!!! [00:39] Steps I had to take:: [00:39] 1. Had to resize my LVM to make room for a raw partition to hold the /boot volume. [00:40] 2. Had to format that partition and restore the contents of /boot [00:40] 3. Booted from the rescue option on the server install disc. [00:40] 4. Opened a shell on the root FS of the machine. [00:40] 5. Mounted all filesystems [00:40] 6. Performed an aptitude dist-upgrade (which failed because of the chroot environment). [00:41] 7. cd'd to /var/cache/apt/archives and performed a 'dpkg -i --force-all *.deb' [00:41] 8. Rebooted. [00:41] 9. Logged in and obtained root [00:41] 10. Performed another dist-upgrade. [00:41] 11. Danced a little jig! [02:05] I'm having some issues, with some virtual server's with apache. Everything was working perfectly, before I left town. Now when I bring up the url in a browser, it is listening the root web directory for the server. [02:05] Does anyone know what might be causing this issue ? [02:17] figured it out. === Squirrely|BNC| is now known as Squirrely [02:30] how/why does a package have a name like 2: [02:30] like redis-server [02:30] 2:1.2.0 [02:35] WALoeIII: that is the "epoch number". [02:35] WALoeIII: it is used when upstream's version number decreases, because Debian versions MUST increase monotonically. [02:35] WALoeIII: for most purposes you can ignore the epoch number. [02:36] ugh [02:37] join [02:37] Hi [02:38] Is this the right place to have a question about how to install VNC server on my VPS running Ubuntu Server 10.04? [02:38] nigelb: What's the patch system for the package? If you've got a patch, you can just add it to the patch system without untarring the interior tarball. Just check other patches to make sure you've got the right path in the patch.. [02:39] fuho: yes; install vncserver4 or so [02:39] twb: dO i have to install Gnome or something like that? [02:39] fuho: only if you want to run gnome inside your VNC session [02:40] twb: I thought VNC is always graphical, and for terminal we have Putty. [02:40] VNC *is* graphical, but you could run, say, xlogo or xterm in it instead of GNOME. [02:41] twb: Tried installing the whole ubuntu-desktop metapackage, took over 4 hours and then when installing VNC it didnt created ".vnc" folder, so i reformatted the whole box, so now i have clean installation again, dont want to do the same mistake again :( [02:41] The linuxvnc package, for example, appears to export the text console over VNC. [02:41] fuho: I don't know what a ".vnc folder" is. [02:42] fuho: why can't you just use the command line over SSH (putty) ? [02:43] twb: It was part of the server, i think it didnt create the directory because i didnt run the vnc....i will show you the link, just a moment. But anyways I would like to avoid installing the whiole ubuntu-desktop again, is there a way to get graphical UI with less resources? [02:43] fuho: why do you want a graphical UI? [02:44] twb: I could, its just that i kinda want to have the option too, I never had VPS before and since i think its possible I would like to figure it out [02:44] twb: And to be honest i think it could make things a little bit faster sometimes [02:44] We will have to disagree on that point. [02:45] twb: I for exmple dont know how to use vim at all. [02:45] twb: faster for me as a noob, with very basic if any knowledge of terminal [02:45] It is much faster in the long term to invest a little time know learning the CLI [02:46] If you insist, I can help you install a GUI, but we discourage it. [02:48] twb: Thanks. I should probably know why do you discourage it. isn't it just another option? And in my eyes options are always better than no options. [02:49] fuho: there are other options to vim [02:49] We discourage it because, like I said, learning the CLI will make you more efficient and powerful in the long run. [02:49] twb: Also, I plan to learn CLI (if that means using terminal), really, I just think it would be great t have the UI too [02:52] datz: I believe there are, I think one is called VI,I just found it difficuilt to use. I am sure in the long run it is better solution, but as a long time Windows user it is very diffiuilt to give away everything I am use to. [02:52] gui can be useful, just not so much on a vps, where you tend to be paying for a fairly small slice of ram [02:53] fuho: vim is an implementation of vi. [02:53] fuho: I personally use emacs, but there are perhaps better options for you [02:53] fuho: you might try "nano", which is more like NOTEPAD.EXE [02:54] fuho: it's very limited, but easier for beginners [02:54] twb: I found the tutorial i was following before: http://nuclear-imaging.info/site_content/2010/04/19/vnc-server-setup-for-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/ [02:54] Like Datz, I use Emacs. Not just for editing files, but also for email and IRC and web browsing and a bunch of other things :-P [02:54] fuho: shauno has a good point. [02:55] * Datz remembers now that there is an emacs irc client :po [02:55] datz: I trust you guys I just want to try it [02:55] Datz: emacs *ships* with two IRC clients, but there are at least three more you can install separately :-) [02:56] humm [02:56] I have 2GB RAM on the server, hope that will be enough [02:56] fuho: that is plenty for a GUI [02:56] that's not half bad for a vps. I get 360Mb on mine :) [02:56] twb: I installed emacs-nox11 does that ship with IRC too? [02:57] Datz: yes, M-x irc (rcirc) and M-x erc (ERC). [02:57] emacs ships with everything but a kernel. I believe they're working on that tho [02:57] twb:So first I did this : "apt-get install x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome-desktop-environment" to install the ubuntu-desktop, i dont think i need the whole DESKTOP package though [02:57] fuho: how much *do* you need? [02:57] twb: humm, have to try it sometime. right now I use irssi [02:58] Datz: stop by #emacs sometime if you want to talk about it [02:58] twb: sure, thanks [02:58] oh by the way this is not ad, can i recommend VPS here? its really cheap [02:59] fuho: I don't care either way; I suppose if you get too annoying an op will yell at you. [02:59] twb: I would like to be able to use synaptics and edit files in some normal text editor with ui [02:59] fuho: your local machine is Windows? [03:00] just so you know,cause i think i got a pretty good deal on this its 160GB HDD, 1GB RAM (2GB peak) 600GB bandwith for $13.5/ month [03:00] If your local machine was unix, you could "ssh -X example.net synaptics" to just run the synaptics GUI, without needing VNC or gnome. [03:00] You can do it on Windows, too, if you can work out how to run an X server on the Windows machine. [03:01] twb: Yes, right now it is, my T23 died, I used to have ubuntu on it, but now I only have W7 desktop box. [03:02] twb: I was really hoping to be able toaccess it from anywhere, therefore some sort of java environmebt [03:02] I dunno about that, sorry. [03:03] twb: I dont need that, I just thought it would be cool if possible. So lets just stick with windows and RealVNC client. [03:03] FWIW I would recommend you learn aptitude's TUI instead of synaptic [03:05] yea, vnc is slow and consumes too much bandwidth [03:05] twb: What is the advantage of Aptitude to synaptic? [03:05] fuho: it runs in putty [03:06] twb: Synaptic doesnt? [03:06] An ssh CLI connection uses much less bandwidth than a GUI, regardless of whether it's VNC, RDP or X11. [03:06] twb: I thought that when i do apt-get install something it is synaptic [03:06] fuho: no, that's apt-get. [03:07] fuho: synaptic is a GTK2 GUI wrapper around apt. [03:07] Aptitude is a different wrapper, and it has a GUI, a TUI and a CLI [03:07] * Datz did not know about aptitudes GUI [03:08] Datz: it's relatively new; it wasn't around in 8.04 [03:08] Datz: personally, I've never run it :-) [03:08] ah [03:08] haha, I see [03:08] ubuntu server is bad! [03:08] aptitude-gtk - terminal-based package manager (GUI and terminal interfaces) [03:08] twb: CLI connection is just pure text putty? === Eric_ is now known as talntid [03:08] fuho: yeah [03:08] talntid: yea, bad to the bone [03:08] CLI = command-line interface [03:08] =D [03:09] ;) [03:09] talntid: did you want help with something, or are you just venting? [03:09] twb: Oh :) thanks [03:10] i'd love help, but it's above the level of expertise of most of the people in here... so I don't ask.. I'm not here to vent.. just watching :) [03:10] twb: So which one would you suggest X11 (which i think is the one that can do Java magic) or VNC or RDP (i didnt even know you can d that on linux, i thought thats purely windows) [03:10] There isn't an RDP *server* for Linux. [03:11] twb: so X1 or VNc? Advantages? [03:11] Well, technically there's an RFB (VNC) to RDP bridge, but using it defeats the purpose of using RDP -- namely, that it operates on a higher level than raster damage rectangles. [03:12] fuho: X11 (or NX, I suppose) is what you should use for Linux <--> Linux. VNC is the "lowest common denominator", it works everywhere but it's crap. [03:12] NX is a recent X11 protocol compressor, I haven't used it much myself, but it seems to make X11 much more bandwidth-efficient. [03:13] twb: Oh, well unfortunately most of the owlr has Windows so I will go with VNC for now, then when i get a new laptop with linux i will install X11 too [03:13] twb: BNut can you help me install it ? [03:14] Sure. [03:14] You will need to install vnc4server plus whatever app/desktop you want to run. [03:14] twb: Only if there is no way to install X11 client on windows machine [03:15] fuho: there are X servers for Windows, but I don't know if any are any good. xming is a recent port of Xorg to w32. [03:15] (X calls the client side the "server" and the GUI apps the "clients". Don't worry about why.) [03:16] twb: Just found Xming, reding wiki, not sure if this is the wy to go yet. [03:18] twb: It definitely looks usable and they are still working on it, last release is fron november, screnshots look fine and if you say its less resource hungry i would go that way [03:19] twb: So X11 it is, now how do we start? [03:19] fuho: I think you will get VNC up easier than xming [03:19] twb: Do you think you can help me with X11? [03:19] fuho: for X11, on the Ubuntu side you just need to ensure that xauth and the app (e.g. synaptic) are installed. [03:25] twb: OMG you were right, it looks like x11 is for connecting to applications not whole desktops, [03:26] fuho: X11 is for everything. [03:26] twb: i just jum from one to the other :( [03:26] fuho: when you run an app on your unix desktop, it's talking X11 on the local machine. [03:27] vnc's probably a much better idea if you're doing this over the internet. the only thing X has ever done well, is survive where it shouldn't have [03:28] twb,shauno: Okay, I played with xming a bit, id much rather use VNC now, I am ueśed to it. [03:28] So now I have to pick what UI I want? Gnome or the the other one? [03:29] can you start a virtualized hardy session w/o a gui, only conosle? [03:29] using kvm [03:30] twb: Also is it possible to not have the Gnome running all the time, to only swith iton when i need it (when I am connecting)? [03:30] skitter@vagabond:/ubuntu-kvm/ubuntu-kvm$ virsh start ubuntu error: Failed to start domain ubuntu error: monitor socket did not show up.: Connection refused [03:31] shauno: Thanks, I barely even heard aof Xming today, and now when i installed it I dontthink i want to know more atleast for couple weeks :) [03:32] they're nothing scary .. remote X is how it was designed from day one. It's just not particularly efficient. [03:33] fuho: you sould be able to do something like "sudo service gdm start/stop" [03:34] datz: letme first see what gdm does [03:34] fuho: if you have ssh as well, sure. Just manually start VNC by sshing in and running "xinit /usr/bin/gnome-session -- /usr/bin/Xvncserver" or something [03:35] Datz: that assumes the gdm upstart job is configured to use Xvncserver is Xorg isn't installed -- I'm not sure if that's the case. [03:35] twb: ah, ok. [03:35] shauno: X is actually quite efficient if you're using contemporary toolkits (i.e. xlib or xaw). [03:36] shauno: it's just REALLY slow if you're using bloaty toolkits/apps that were only designed and tested on local connections, especially gtk/qt and firefox/oo.org [03:36] anybody have exp with virsh? [03:36] twb: What should i install first? [03:37] For example, for me emacs21 worked quite happily over 256kbps lines, but oo.org 2.0 crawls on a 100mbps lan [03:38] BTW what does logmein use, that seem very fast even on pretty slow connections? [03:38] Slugs_: there's a dedicated channel for libvirt, but I can't remember its name. #virt or #libvirt? [03:38] oh ty [03:38] Slugs_: you can wait here, too. Some people know about libvirt here [03:38] i just set up a new ubuntu install, but when i try to boot into the new system, my machine halts after 'verifying dmi pool data' what's going on? [i'm certain that i'm booting from the right disk] [03:39] yeah #ubuntu-virt redirected me here [03:39] shauno: of course, NX makes it a lot faster, as should xcb :-) [03:40] StrangeCharm: when booting, hold shift or alt to get into grub. Edit the boot options and change "quiet splash" to "single". That will boot with more information, so you can see what's happening [03:40] twb, shauno: So is anuone wilingto point me in the right direction, or even push me to the finish? [03:40] fuho: I'm better at specific questions [03:40] vanilla ubuntu serve with ssh I am connected to right now [03:41] twb, i don't think that my bios is actually loading grub. at no point do i get the 'grub loading' line, just halt on/after verifying the dmi pool [03:41] twb: Do I need to install vnc server first? [03:41] fuho: you will need to install a VNC server (e.g. vnc4server) before you can do VNC [03:41] StrangeCharm: then it's a hardware problem and you need to isolate the faulty component or take it back to your vendor and have them do so [03:42] twb: So i dont need the UI manager (its probably not called UI manager, but I mean Gnome probably) [03:42] fuho: you will need to install whatever GUI app or environment you want to run inside VNC [03:43] fuho: to begin with, you could just use xterm or xlogo to test that the VNC part is working, and *then* install whatever app/DE you really want [03:43] twb, i don't think it's a hardware problem. it booted just fine with the pervious os, and the only hardware change was connecting the usb drive with the install media [03:44] StrangeCharm: if it isn't getting as far as grub, then surely the bios or hardware is at fault [03:44] StrangeCharm: that or you haven't installed grub correctly, I guess. [03:45] twb, i wasn't exactly involved when installing grub - the install disk did that all on its own. i'm concerned that the install disk did something odd, because i can boot from removable media, and could boot under the previous os [03:46] StrangeCharm: I've had lots of problems with d-i installing grub onto the wrong disk (e.g. onto the USB key) [03:47] twb, d-i? i used the partition editor on the install disk. surely it put grub at the start of the disk with /boot on it? [03:47] StrangeCharm: d-i is the installer for Ubuntu Server [03:47] twb, why is it called d-i? [03:48] Because it's the debian-installer program that Ubuntu, uh, borrowed from Debian [03:48] cf. ubiquity [03:48] twb: Just want to ask you before I press eneter "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" I am going to isntall this and then i will install the vnc server, is that correct? [03:49] fuho: installing ubuntu-desktop is probably overkill [03:50] twb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI Looks like I only have two options, X11 or this. [03:51] fuho: what is "this"? [03:51] gwb: ubuntu-desktop [03:52] fuho: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that pulls in EVERYTHING that a normal Ubuntu desktop has [03:52] It'll work, but do you really want to install e.g. rhythmbox? [03:52] twb: nope i just want gnome, so i acan conenct to it using vnc [03:54] fuho: try "gnome-core" or "gnome-desktop-environment" [03:55] twb: gnome-desktop-environment [03:55] gnome-core is the gnome desktop, but none of the apps. If I were you, I'd install that and specific apps [03:55] twb: ha, I jsut found it too! [03:55] twb: ok I will do taht [03:57] twb, so, the fix here is probably to reinstall grub on the right disk? [03:57] twb: Ok, that is 650MB to install. After this finishes do I ahve to REstart the server? This is kinda generic question, do I have to restart the server every time i install something? [04:01] fuho: no restart necessary [04:01] StrangeCharm: *if* that's the problem [04:01] StrangeCharm: your first step should be to diagnose the issue [04:02] twb, what could i do to rule out issues? [04:02] New bug: #680358 in openldap (main) "ldapadd -w password parameter causes assertion failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/680358 [04:02] StrangeCharm: boot something else and inspect the MBR and the partitions [04:02] StrangeCharm: pull out the USB key and see if that helps [04:02] StrangeCharm: check the BIOS boot order [04:03] twb, options b & c already investigated. i have no idea what i'd be looking for on the mbr & boot partitions. [04:04] StrangeCharm: file -s /dev/sda would be a start -- check that they're bootable MBRs [04:05] twb, bootable mbrs? you mean uncorrupt? [04:05] It should say /dev/sda: x86 boot sector; ... [04:05] If it doesn't say "boot sector", it's not bootable [04:06] twb, so, file -s will read the mbr of a disk, and tell me something meaningful about it? [04:07] Basically, yes [04:09] twb: Do you have any experience with x11vnc? http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ [04:10] fuho: x11vnc exports an existing X session. It's not what you want. [04:11] twb: oh ok, i will keep looking. people seem to run into lot of problems installing vn4server, so I ama a bit scared. [04:17] can anyone proficient with debhelper/debuild help me diagnose an issue with dh_auto_install [04:19] WALoeIII: I can, but -devel might be a better channel [04:19] WALoeIII: or #debian-mentors on OFTC [04:20] twb: ok, https://gist.github.com/711240 - it seems when it does the make install it has a permissions issue? [04:21] seems totally weird to me, the 2.0.0rc2 stuff I'm basing this off of wokrs [04:21] works* [04:21] twb: Okay, so gnome-core is installed, now I plan to do this "sudo apt-get install vnc4server xinetd" [04:21] I don't know why you'd want xinetd [04:22] twb: Apparently its more secure and can keep better logs. [04:22] fuho: keep better logs *than what*? [04:22] fuho: why do you think you need *any* inetd implementation? [04:23] WALoeIII: cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/bin/redis-server': Permission denied [04:23] WALoeIII: upstream is ignoring $DESTDIR [04:23] twb: correct [04:23] uhrrm is that set by dh_something? [04:23] WALoeIII: patch upstream's makefile, or override dh_auto_install with a custom invocation. [04:23] twb: io have no clue, i dont even know what it is. Do you think vnc4server is enough? [04:23] WALoeIII: upstream is in the wrong to ignore DESTDIR, but it might not be feasible to fix it [04:24] twb: I know where it is now [04:24] makefile [04:24] WALoeIII: yep [04:24] fuho: yes [04:24] INSTALL_TOP= /usr [04:24] Anyone know any cvs server front ends? [04:24] ok thanks, I can do that [04:24] I want to be able to minitor like checkouts and committs and such [04:25] WALoeIII: try override_dh_auto_install: \n\t dh_auto_install -- INSTALL_TOP=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/usr [04:25] kirkland: ping? [04:26] ?? [04:33] twb: vnc4server is installed, from what i read online people tend to edit .vnc/xstarup file. I tried to connecto to the server using VNC Viewer with no luck, do you know whati s that file for? [04:34] fuho: no. I would try "xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- /usr/bin/Xvncserver" [04:34] Sorry, make that "xinit /usr/bin/xterm -- /usr/bin/Xvnc4" [04:36] error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/Speedo/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/CID/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/, removing from list! Could not init font path element /usr/sh [04:38] Those aren't errors [04:38] X is looking for fonts in obsolete places, it is OK that it can't find them [04:38] twb: It still didn't connect [04:39] pastebin the full transcript [04:40] twb: http://pastebin.com/tvmQpyEJ [04:41] fuho: the error is: xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): no program named "/usr/bin/xterm" in PATH [04:41] fuho: you don't have xterm installed [04:42] Try "xinit /usr/bin/gnome-session -- /usr/bin/Xvnc4" [04:43] anybody ever installed 10.04 amd64 on ibm blade HS22 ? [04:43] !anybody [04:44] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [04:44] ScottK: That's a relief. Its using quilt. I'll need to unpatch to just figure out the directory system. [04:45] twb: now it accepts connection, client asks fro password (not username) i type it says in client"No password configured for VNC Auth" [04:45] my problem on IBM HS22 is fail to boot after finished installation on /dev/sde [04:46] twb: And in terminal : "Tue Nov 23 04:44:09 2010 Connections: accepted: 0.0.0.0::59016 SConnection: Client needs protocol version 3.8 SConnection: Client requests security type VncAuth(2) Tue Nov 23 04:44:10 2010 SSecurityFactoryStandard: neither Password nor PasswordFile params set SConnection: AuthFailureException: No password configured for VNC Auth Connections: closed: 0.0.0.0::59016 (No password configured for VNC Auth [04:47] fuho: I don't remember how to do the password bit. I think you're supposed to use vnc4passwd -- try reading its manpage [04:47] twb: http://pastebin.com/JK4kDtHr [04:48] i keep getting an emails from root@xxxxx (xxxxx being my server) with the Subject: [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 | xargs -n 200 -r -0 rm and the message only contains...Warning: Directive 'register_long_arrays' is deprecated in PHP 5.3 and greater in Unknown on line 0 [04:49] i've had this message spamming my inbox for months now hoping that there would be an update that would resolve it...but i'm really sick of seeing it spam my inbox, so how do i get rid of it? as the message isn't really clear as to what file is the culprit [04:51] grep -r -i register_long_arrays /var/www [04:52] or it might have been set in your php.ini ? [04:53] twb: It was "vnc4passwd" i set up password, then ran "xinit /usr/bin/gnome-session -- /usr/bin/Xvnc4" gain and it still wont connect, with the same error: http://pastebin.com/kjzQRFdv [04:53] anybody experience grub problem upon installed on /dev/sde ? [04:53] fuho: NFI, sorry [04:59] twb: not even why it shows 0.0.0.0 instead of my ip? [05:00] fuho: 0.0.0.0 means "all interfaces" [05:00] ScottK: err, s/unpatch/untar [05:38] hello [05:39] greetings [05:44] LXC question [05:44] Suppose my lxc rootfs is on LVM [05:45] Can I use lxc.mount.entry /dev/mapper/lxc-barserv /srv/lxc/fooserv ext4 default ? [05:45] Can I use "lxc.mount.entry = /dev/mapper/lxc-barserv /srv/lxc/fooserv ext4 defaults", rather -- in /etc/lxc/fooserv.conf, that is. [05:50] * twb tries [05:53] a blockdevice is a blockdevice [05:53] SpamapS: I thought maybe the root filesystem was special as far as lxc.mount.entry was concerned [05:54] i.e. I couldn't mount it on-demand during lxc-start [05:57] twb: I've only booted two lxc containers ever, but the root fs seems to be the easy part. ;) [06:16] New bug: #680371 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package mysql-server-5.1 5.1.37-1ubuntu5.4 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/680371 [06:33] SpamapS: doesn't work [06:33] http://paste.debian.net/100515/ [06:53] What is a good SMTP server to run to use from accepting php mail form's ? [06:57] postfix [07:03] that is what I'm looking into right now ... thanks === SirFiChi is now known as ihCiFriS [08:27] Hi folks, I want to manage my contacts and adresses serversided. So any client on my LAN can access these contacts. Is there a "contactserver-tool" in any form? I am looking for tools. thanks :) [08:27] latenite: address book ("yellow pages") data is typically stored in LDAP nowadays. [08:28] You could set that up, but I don't think there's a "turn key" solution for it in Ubuntu === whaley is now known as SirLoins [08:39] twb, would you know a nice tuorial on ldap and adressbooks? I never got my hands on ldap. I feel like its a big monster...*scared* [08:39] latenite: nope [08:40] twb, is ldap hard t learn? [08:40] LDAP itself isn't complicated, but it's messy and some of the edge stuff like auth can be confusing [08:41] twb, what do you meen by "edge stuff"? *brand new*? === ruben231 is now known as ruben23 [09:21] What would you guys suggest using if I wanted to pump out a quick and easy 'planet' [09:21] I know there's PlanetPlanet - but that doesn't seem like an 'easy' solution [09:22] I'm looking for something that's easy for users to add onto as well [09:25] okay, so I am shutting down my web server remotely and then using my remote file server to kick it back up via my custom ipmitool frontend for the first time... [09:25] let's see if it works [09:31] Callum__: do you have a backup plan? :-) [09:33] twb: well, it worked fine, but the backup plan was just to work with ipmitool manually if the thing didn't work, the program isn't finished yet =P [09:34] anyway [09:34] SELinux is giving me troubles with remote CUPS printing (over the Internet) [09:34] Callum__: I just ssh example.net lpr actually, its probably been causing me problems with even local printing via PostScript as well because I haven't been able to print all the time locally [09:35] kernel spams something like this: [ 248.167806] type=1503 audit(1290504722.212:60): operation="open" pid=897 parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=0 ouid=0 name="/var/run/samba/gencache.tdb" , when I try to print [09:37] if SELinux is even running on this thing [09:39] none of the SELinux utils are installed, so this may be AppArmor being an asshole [09:39] twb: any ideas? [09:39] dunno [09:39] That says cupsd can't read /var/run/samba/gencache.tdb [09:40] And yes, that's an apparmor message [09:40] On ubuntu apprmor is on by default, selinux is not [09:40] ugh, it looks just like SELinux apparently [09:40] so do I have to change a rule or something? [09:40] Hm, actually, maybe it's a generic LSM message, so it could be either [09:40] I have no experience with AppArmor OR SELinux [09:40] Callum__: only if you want it to work :P [09:41] Callum__: look in /etc/apparmor for cupsd stuff [09:41] /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd, /etc/apparmor.d/cache/usr.sbin.cupsd and/etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/cups-client... [09:42] Callum__: also, talk to #ubuntu-hardened about it [09:42] what for? [09:42] Because they're the ones that know about apparmor [09:42] ok.. so I'm going to try to use PlanetPlanet - Any chance I could get some help figuring out how to set it up? [09:42] ah [09:44] well, there are no permissions defined for /var/run/samba/gencache.tdb in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd [09:45] IIUC apparmor is "default deny" for specific apps [09:46] to be honest I never understood why we needed SELinux or twb [09:46] ooops twb [09:46] haha [09:46] I meant AppArmor [09:46] wth [09:46] I saw your name and wrote it down [09:46] DAMN, that happens on IRC as well as IRL [09:46] what is wrong with me [09:46] anyway, changed it, let's see what happens [09:47] OH! Is PlanetPlanet a python app that gets run on a cron and then just outputs static content? [09:50] heh, I probably need to go down to the station to restart the printer [09:50] they kind of lock up when this happens [09:50] damn [09:50] Let's try my OTHER printer there [09:51] HP LaserJet 5Si from the mid 1990s =D still prints brilliantly at 600dpi even when its this old, plenty of toner left in it too [09:51] sure it needs a little bit of time to warm up, but what other large printer doesn't these days apart from huge photocopiers [10:18] MTecknology: yes, it is [11:07] uhm i have a doubt... about my virtualbox setup... it's working fine, but i'm wondering if i could setup things better [11:07] i mean: my issue is with the hostname resolution [11:07] i have this ubuntu server vm... [11:07] from this i can ping fine the ip address of the host and vice-versa [11:08] (the network is bridged) [11:08] but the hostname resolution doesn't work [11:09] i mean... the local name resolution should be done by the local wifi router [11:09] i can obviously setup statically the ip address inside the /etc/hosts file [11:41] Is there anyone around that knows much about PlanetPlanet? I'm trying to separate the config directory from the template directory.. I have /opt/planet/nginx and /opt/planet/nginx-data. In nginx/config.ini I have template_files = nginx-data/index.html.tmpl - planet.py spits this out when I try to run that - planet.htmltmpl.TemplateError: Htmltmpl error: IO error while reading template 'index.html.tmpl': (2) No such file or [11:56] MTecknology: I use absolute paths. [11:56] MTecknology: Works great. [11:56] soren: that must get to be one massive line [11:56] 349 characters. [11:57] I'm a big boy. I can handle it. [11:57] :P [11:57] soren: how hard is it to make a nice theme for this when I'm all done? I think that's all I really have left [11:58] I won't do it now - it's 05:58 - sleepy time - that'll be a task for after my break [12:00] MTecknology: As hard as html and css. [12:00] soren: I'm screwed.. [12:00] MTecknology: Me too. I stole mine. [12:00] soren: HTML *is* hard. Look how many people end up using tables for alignment rather than doing it properly [12:01] twb: People fail at the simplest tasks. it's common. [12:02] twb: I'm reasonsably good with html, but I still can't make anything that doesn't look like crap. Frustrating, really. [12:02] I have the technical skills, but completely lack the aesthetic skills. [12:02] Bah [12:02] soren: where did you steal yours from? [12:03] I know what this needs to look like in the end - and I'm not excited for it.. [12:03] The content provider is supposed to provide *content*, not style. [12:03] MTecknology: Planet Ubuntu, I believe. It's ok, it was for planet.ubuntu-dk.org [12:03] That's why I use w3m, since it doesn't implement CSS, I get a consistent style across all sites :-P [12:03] oh [12:04] soren: even an absolute path doesn't work... [12:04] MTecknology: What's the error now? [12:05] http://dpaste.com/278785/ [12:05] MTecknology: index.html.tmpl doesn't look like an absolute path to me. [12:06] template_files = /opt/planet/nginx-data/index.html.tmpl /opt/planet/nginx-data/atom.xml.tmpl /opt/planet/nginx-data/rss20.xml.tmpl /opt/planet/nginx-data/rss10.xml.tmpl /opt/planet/nginx-data/opml.xml.tmpl /opt/planet/nginx-data/foafroll.xml.tmpl [12:06] That's fine. You must not be using that configuration file. [12:07] http://dpaste.com/278786/ [12:09] :( [12:09] MTecknology: grep template_files nginx/config.ini [12:09] soren: only the one line shows up.. [12:10] -v? [12:10] ..... [12:10] rm -r nginx-data/*tmplc nginx-data/cache [12:10] that made it work.. [12:10] Awesome. [12:11] well... learned something new :P [12:11] thanks :) [12:12]