| virtu | pulseaudio sucks =/ | 01:21 |
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| holstein | hehe | 01:22 |
| holstein | whats the issue? | 01:22 |
| virtu | my onboard soundcard Realtek SIS 966: | 01:23 |
| virtu | without pulseaudio: nice quality sound on playback | 01:23 |
| holstein | it happens | 01:23 |
| virtu | with pulseaudio: some little clicks and noise | 01:23 |
| holstein | better than my via chip | 01:23 |
| holstein | i open the pulse audio preferences | 01:23 |
| ScottL | does anyone have any _good_ suggestion for new GDM and desktop wallpaper? | 01:23 |
| holstein | and it dies ;) | 01:24 |
| holstein | ScottL: studio specific? | 01:24 |
| holstein | i like the vanilla ones ;) | 01:24 |
| ScottL | holstein, doesn't have to follow an audio theme, no | 01:24 |
| holstein | might be nice to just 'blue' the vanilla one | 01:24 |
| holstein | and put ubuntustudio on the loading screen | 01:25 |
| virtu | holstein, hope with behringer I will not get this clicks | 01:25 |
| holstein | IF blue is what we are doing now | 01:25 |
| ScottL | holstein, i have had one request, to keep it so that the panels are clearly visible and contrasted against wallpaper | 01:25 |
| virtu | because... my main objetive is to improve audio quality and record quality | 01:25 |
| ScottL | holstein, so yeah, i'm thinking plain :) | 01:25 |
| * virtu also downloading ubuntu 10.10 32bits | 01:25 | |
| holstein | ScottL: i got a nice one on my audio box | 01:25 |
| holstein | let me see if i can dig it up | 01:25 |
| ScottL | holstein, sweet :) | 01:25 |
| virtu | i am using ubuntu default Ambiance theme | 01:26 |
| holstein | ScottL: i cant find it | 01:33 |
| holstein | http://www.flickr.com/photos/7630391@N04/525284570/ | 01:34 |
| holstein | has this kind of vibe though | 01:34 |
| holstein | dark | 01:34 |
| holstein | prolly darker than what your looking for | 01:34 |
| holstein | the color goes all the way from the bottom left to the top right | 01:34 |
| holstein | and the ubuntutsudio logo is subtle | 01:35 |
| holstein | which, you might not want a logo anyways | 01:35 |
| holstein | i wanted one | 01:35 |
| ScottL | holstein, your comments are very similar to what i had in mind | 01:35 |
| holstein | i want people to ask about it when they see my studio | 01:35 |
| ScottL | low contrast colors, with "ubuntu studio" almost embossed on the lower right corner | 01:35 |
| holstein | ScottL: lighter though? | 01:35 |
| ScottL | well, not many colors actually, maybe a gradient, dark | 01:36 |
| holstein | COOL | 01:36 |
| holstein | let me dig this one off of my studio machine real quick... | 01:36 |
| holstein | i looked long and hard for it | 01:36 |
| ScottL | i don't like busy wallpaper for audio production desktops, and others have voiced the same opinion | 01:36 |
| holstein | we'll have to figure out where i found it ;) | 01:36 |
| ScottL | and since these are the only opinions being offered, it's what i'll probably go with | 01:37 |
| holstein | http://holstein.shacknet.nu/scott/ | 01:42 |
| holstein | ScottL: the name is still there too | 01:42 |
| holstein | yeah | 01:43 |
| holstein | http://retimer.ru/2010/03/more-ubuntu-wallpapers/ | 01:43 |
| holstein | thats where i found it | 01:44 |
| ScottL | holstein, http://retimer.ru/wp-content/gallery/ubuntu/Ubuntu_Metal_Alternative_by_MrElu.jpg | 01:52 |
| ScottL | this isn't really what i had in mind, but i like some elements of it | 01:53 |
| ScottL | it's dark, not too much contrast | 01:53 |
| ScottL | i don't really mind the banner running from left to right | 01:54 |
| ScottL | but the majority of the image is plain, which helps by not distracting from the desktop proper | 01:54 |
| ScottL | i think i will also take troy_s's advice and set up a meeting after we get some ideas and try to get people involved | 01:55 |
| holstein | this one is cool http://retimer.ru/wp-content/gallery/ubuntu/Hardy_Street_Dogs_by_Azraelthe7thMurderer.png | 01:55 |
| holstein | ScottL: yeah | 01:55 |
| holstein | i dropped the ball on the meeting :/ | 01:55 |
| ScottL | holstein, did you every send out an email about the website meeting? | 01:55 |
| holstein | nope | 01:55 |
| ScottL | LOL, cross post | 01:55 |
| holstein | i'll do it right now though... | 01:56 |
| holstein | lets look at a date | 01:56 |
| holstein | and i'll make it happen | 01:56 |
| holstein | NOW | 01:56 |
| ScottL | we might push it back a week or so because of thanksgiving | 01:56 |
| holstein | you think the 30th is too soon? | 01:56 |
| holstein | tuesday after the holidays? | 01:56 |
| holstein | thats 8 days notice | 01:57 |
| holstein | not bad | 01:57 |
| ScottL | that sounds good, you might even mention if someone needs to ask about pushing the meeting back | 01:58 |
| holstein | im on it | 01:58 |
| ScottL | we should try to accomodate as many people as reasonably possible | 01:58 |
| holstein | ScottL: i mail to the general list right? | 01:58 |
| virtu | back | 01:58 |
| holstein | not the dev one? | 01:58 |
| ScottL | holstein, hell, i've been mailing both just to make sure | 01:58 |
| holstein | to catch more folk? | 01:58 |
| holstein | OK | 01:58 |
| holstein | i'll do that if i can find both addy's | 01:59 |
| ScottL | holstein, ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com and | 02:07 |
| ScottL | ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com | 02:08 |
| holstein | yeah | 02:09 |
| holstein | working on the time conversion | 02:09 |
| holstein | cant get my mind around it ;) | 02:09 |
| ScottL | holstein, i'll try to show you what cory has as the plymouth theme image, it might be good also | 02:09 |
| holstein | i think i have it | 02:09 |
| holstein | 23:00 utc | 02:09 |
| holstein | is 6p for me | 02:09 |
| holstein | is that 5 for you? | 02:09 |
| holstein | maybe should be later...? | 02:09 |
| ScottL | i use this to help with time: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=13&year=2010&hour=19&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 | 02:09 |
| ScottL | just adjust the time and date on the screen | 02:10 |
| ScottL | holstein, unless it is a saturday or sunday then 5pm for me is pretty bad , probably THE worst time :P | 02:10 |
| holstein | ScottL: 7 good? | 02:13 |
| holstein | thats 8 for me right? | 02:13 |
| holstein | there will be a website planning meeting in #ubuntustudio-devel on the freenode network Wednesday, December 1st @ 01:00:00 UTC. | 02:17 |
| holstein | let me know ASAP if there is a more convenient time. thanks | 02:17 |
| holstein | AND i have a freenode webchat link | 02:18 |
| holstein | where you just click and choose a username | 02:18 |
| holstein | solve a little captcha | 02:18 |
| holstein | and your dumped into the dev channel | 02:18 |
| holstein | ScottL: we dont have to have an agenda and all that right/ | 02:30 |
| holstein | ? | 02:30 |
| ScottL | holstein, 7 is good | 02:39 |
| ScottL | holstein, we don't have to have an agenda published, but i highly recommend at least you and i have one or we probably will not accomplish much | 02:40 |
| holstein | sure, i just wanted to email one if there was one | 02:40 |
| ScottL | holstein, example of cory's plymouth theme: http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/new-plymouth-theme.png | 02:40 |
| holstein | yeah | 02:40 |
| ScottL | because i did this with the plymouth-x11 plugin it didn't render correctly however | 02:40 |
| holstein | i like that :) | 02:40 |
| ScottL | the thing that looks like a water drop on the upper left should be over the ubuntustudio cof | 02:41 |
| ScottL | it rotates around the CoF | 02:41 |
| holstein | AH | 02:41 |
| holstein | even better | 02:41 |
| ScottL | it looks pretty snazy, i can send you an email with it and instructions too if you want to try it | 02:42 |
| ScottL | don't feel pressured like you have too though | 02:42 |
| ScottL | i was even thinking....what if we kept the plymouth theme, gdm background, and desktop wallpaper all the same? | 02:42 |
| holstein | sure | 02:42 |
| holstein | i acutal like that idea | 02:43 |
| holstein | actually* | 02:43 |
| holstein | maybe we get a good turn out | 02:44 |
| holstein | and we can sound some folk out at the meeting about this too | 02:44 |
| holstein | anyways, im going to hit send... on that email | 02:44 |
| ScottL | good deal :) | 02:46 |
| Kbuzz | why is it that I get scratchy playback sometimes with my delta 44 in every linux distro, but never in windows? | 03:09 |
| holstein | m-audios driver support? | 03:10 |
| holstein | Kbuzz: is it good with JACK? | 03:10 |
| Kbuzz | not always | 03:10 |
| holstein | drag :/ | 03:10 |
| Kbuzz | I had the same problem in windows, but swtiching to an IDE drive saved the problem | 03:11 |
| Kbuzz | solved^ | 03:11 |
| holstein | how hard are you pushing it? | 03:11 |
| holstein | in JACK? | 03:11 |
| Kbuzz | I'm playing music in audacious | 03:11 |
| Kbuzz | so not very hard ;) | 03:11 |
| holstein | interesting, IDE instead of SATA? | 03:11 |
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| Kbuzz | yeah something to do with pci bus | 03:11 |
| holstein | thats a new one on me | 03:11 |
| Kbuzz | does any company have good drivers for similar hardware? | 03:12 |
| holstein | whats the specs on that again? | 03:12 |
| holstein | well | 03:12 |
| holstein | a better question | 03:12 |
| holstein | what do you need? | 03:12 |
| holstein | channels in? | 03:13 |
| holstein | preamps? | 03:13 |
| holstein | channels out? | 03:13 |
| Kbuzz | 4 in 4 out. thats all | 03:13 |
| Kbuzz | nah I use a mixer for preamp | 03:13 |
| Kbuzz | I figured a pci device would be the most stable | 03:13 |
| Kbuzz | but my m-audio transit worked a lot better | 03:13 |
| holstein | yeah | 03:13 |
| holstein | i got one of those | 03:14 |
| holstein | not bad | 03:14 |
| holstein | its cool that package got added too | 03:14 |
| holstein | madfuload or whatever | 03:14 |
| Kbuzz | there's a package now? | 03:14 |
| holstein | well, i think it supports other hardware as well | 03:14 |
| holstein | but yeah | 03:14 |
| holstein | sudo apt-get install madfuload | 03:15 |
| Kbuzz | I had to do some funny things to get the transit to work with jacklab a few years back | 03:15 |
| holstein | and boom | 03:15 |
| holstein | yeah, me too | 03:15 |
| holstein | have you looked at the zoomH4? | 03:15 |
| holstein | i like those | 03:15 |
| holstein | nice preamps on them | 03:15 |
| holstein | and the standalone aspect is cool | 03:15 |
| Kbuzz | that looks amazing, but is beyond what I need | 03:16 |
| holstein | yeah? | 03:16 |
| holstein | too pricey? | 03:16 |
| ailo | I've never had much trouble with m-audio, except for getting pulseaudio to detect the card | 03:17 |
| holstein | ive heard great things about the 1010lt | 03:17 |
| holstein | i thought you would be getting the same support though with the 44 | 03:17 |
| ailo | I have the delta-66 and delta-1010lt | 03:17 |
| Kbuzz | they work fine? its the same driver I thought | 03:17 |
| holstein | maybe not | 03:17 |
| holstein | maybe it was the 66 and 1010 i looked into | 03:18 |
| ailo | I think the driver is the same for all delta cards | 03:18 |
| ailo | Same chip, right: ice1712 | 03:18 |
| Kbuzz | yeah | 03:18 |
| holstein | Kbuzz: have you really used it for an extended period in windows? | 03:18 |
| Kbuzz | oh yeah | 03:19 |
| holstein | hmmm | 03:19 |
| holstein | interesting... | 03:19 |
| holstein | Kbuzz: did you update alsa? | 03:19 |
| Kbuzz | plenty. I've tried just about everything except putting it in a whole new rig. | 03:19 |
| Kbuzz | which might not be a bad idea at this point | 03:19 |
| holstein | sure | 03:20 |
| Kbuzz | could be something strange interfering that might only affect linux | 03:20 |
| holstein | but you should be able to rock and roll with that rig | 03:20 |
| holstein | what about IRQ's? | 03:20 |
| Kbuzz | yeah, but I mean other hardware interfering | 03:20 |
| Kbuzz | not sure how I might check that | 03:20 |
| holstein | cat /proc/interrupts | 03:20 |
| holstein | should be cool though i would think | 03:21 |
| holstein | since its on a PCI card | 03:21 |
| Kbuzz | run that while I'm hearing the scatchy sounds? | 03:21 |
| ailo | Once I had crackle in the speakers, and it turned out it was because of a vacuum cleaner (turned off), near the mics | 03:21 |
| Kbuzz | haha | 03:21 |
| holstein | nah, you can just look at it now | 03:21 |
| holstein | i'll just list the devices | 03:21 |
| holstein | and where they are assigned | 03:21 |
| Kbuzz | well I've heard of dirt in the device causing trouble, but it works perfectly in windows on the same machine. | 03:21 |
| holstein | ailo: hehe, strange | 03:21 |
| Kbuzz | cool, I'll check it out when I reboot | 03:22 |
| ailo | The cracle was faint. A guy said it was because of magnets or something. I have no idea | 03:22 |
| ailo | Kbuzz: do you have any extra pci cards installed, except for the audio device? | 03:24 |
| Kbuzz | just a video card | 03:24 |
| Kbuzz | switched video cards twice now and the same problem returns | 03:26 |
| Kbuzz | I've pretty much given up on solving the problem. I just need to find hardware that is similar and more supported. | 03:27 |
| ailo | considering you get the same problem with multiple distros makes it seem like it aught to be hardware related. | 03:27 |
| ailo | Well, I've used m-audio for 8 years or so. Never had much trouble. | 03:28 |
| Kbuzz | the card is on the Alsa preferred soundcards list, so I'm not sure what might be better | 03:28 |
| ailo | It should work well, I think. Have yo | 03:30 |
| ailo | Have you used it on windows after you got problems with Linux? | 03:31 |
| Kbuzz | yup, go back and forth everyday | 03:31 |
| Kbuzz | my video card has audio out in the hdmi, might try disabling that somehow | 03:32 |
| holstein | that doesnt account for JACK though | 03:33 |
| Kbuzz | doesn't matter if its jack or not. still sounds the same | 03:34 |
| holstein | no xruns | 03:34 |
| holstein | or other BS? | 03:34 |
| holstein | no error messages? | 03:34 |
| holstein | i bet youve tried all those jack settings too ;) | 03:35 |
| holstein | the force 16bit and all that | 03:35 |
| holstein | strange | 03:35 |
| ailo | should work well on default settings. Recently I used it on P3, 1GHz with latencies down to 5ms | 03:38 |
| holstein | its gotta be a way that the hardware is getting configured in linux | 03:39 |
| holstein | somehow | 03:39 |
| holstein | i would like to see that PCI card in linux on a different motherboard | 03:39 |
| Kbuzz | oh I get xruns alright | 04:06 |
| Kbuzz | plenty | 04:07 |
| Kbuzz | don't think I've ever shutdown without seeing them | 04:07 |
| holstein | you shouldnt | 04:09 |
| holstein | i konw pipeman doesnt get them with the 1010 | 04:09 |
| holstein | ailo: when your running at around 4 ms, do you get any xruns? | 04:09 |
| Kbuzz | even with 128ms I get them | 04:09 |
| holstein | i think that supports the IRQ theory | 04:10 |
| holstein | worth looking into | 04:10 |
| Kbuzz | I'll try it now | 04:10 |
| Kbuzz | !reboot | 04:10 |
| Kbuzz | yeah, just booted up, 12 (70) xruns | 04:15 |
| Kbuzz | http://pastebin.ca/1999654 | 04:15 |
| Kbuzz | not sure what to look for there | 04:16 |
| holstein | im pretty sure 20: 58 3341 53030 IO-APIC-fasteoi ICE1712 | 04:16 |
| holstein | ^^ thats it | 04:16 |
| holstein | and its off on its own... | 04:16 |
| Kbuzz | oh ok | 04:17 |
| holstein | hmmm | 04:17 |
| holstein | ill think about it | 04:18 |
| Kbuzz | :p I know the feeling | 04:19 |
| Kbuzz | thanks for the advice though. ruled out a few things | 04:19 |
| holstein | you might want to look in the JACK messages | 04:19 |
| holstein | and see what's there | 04:19 |
| holstein | maybe ask in #jack | 04:19 |
| holstein | or the mailing list over there | 04:19 |
| fabio | hello, anyboy of you can transform ape+cue files into mp3 files? | 21:03 |
| fabio | im a regular ubuntu user, but i have this issue | 21:04 |
| fabio | and seems to be outdated this libraries | 21:04 |
| fabio | please guys | 21:04 |
| Zzeiss | I just did a full reload with the newest Ubuntu Studio (X86-64) and all of my wireless adapters no longer function. | 21:12 |
| Zzeiss | So... i can't do an upgrade. Any hints | 21:12 |
| Zzeiss | ? | 21:12 |
| Zzeiss | (heck, for that matter, it may be that _all_ networks are dead. I tried two different wireless adapters (one USB, one PCI) and a Virgin Mobile USB CDMA WLAN and none of them function at all. Help? | 21:14 |
| astraljava | fabio: Does this post shed any light on the problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6818506&postcount=6 | 21:15 |
| astraljava | Zzeiss: But wired network still works? | 21:20 |
| astraljava | Zzeiss: I have little experience with non-working wireless, so I can only suggest going about it at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html | 21:22 |
| Zzeiss | (actually, there's no wired ethernet (10baseT) within about 50 feet of the machine with no wireless, so I haven't tested that and hope I don't have to.) | 21:55 |
| Zzeiss | astraljava: The first post doesn't help- the "lshw -C network" command doesn't show +any+ of "claimed, unclaimed, enabled, disabled" for the wireless. It does show "disabled" for the 10baset and that's reasonable as there's nothing plugged into it. | 22:28 |
| Zzeiss | I'm going to try a different approach... reinstall with NO network card, then add one later. | 23:36 |
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