[01:21] <virtu> pulseaudio sucks =/
[01:22] <holstein> hehe
[01:22] <holstein> whats the issue?
[01:23] <virtu> my onboard soundcard Realtek SIS 966:
[01:23] <virtu> without pulseaudio: nice quality sound on playback
[01:23] <holstein> it happens
[01:23] <virtu> with pulseaudio: some little clicks and noise
[01:23] <holstein> better than my via chip
[01:23] <holstein> i open the pulse audio preferences
[01:23] <ScottL> does anyone have any _good_ suggestion for new GDM and desktop wallpaper?
[01:24] <holstein> and it dies ;)
[01:24] <holstein> ScottL: studio specific?
[01:24] <holstein> i like the vanilla ones ;)
[01:24] <ScottL> holstein, doesn't have to follow an audio theme, no
[01:24] <holstein> might be nice to just 'blue' the vanilla one
[01:25] <holstein> and put ubuntustudio on the loading screen
[01:25] <virtu> holstein, hope with behringer I will not get this clicks
[01:25] <holstein> IF blue is what we are doing now
[01:25] <ScottL> holstein,  i have had one request, to keep it so that the panels are clearly visible and contrasted against wallpaper
[01:25] <virtu> because... my main objetive is to improve audio quality and record quality
[01:25] <ScottL> holstein, so yeah, i'm thinking plain :)
[01:25]  * virtu also downloading ubuntu 10.10 32bits
[01:25] <holstein> ScottL: i got a nice one on my audio box
[01:25] <holstein> let me see if i can dig it up
[01:25] <ScottL> holstein, sweet :)
[01:26] <virtu> i am using ubuntu default Ambiance theme
[01:33] <holstein> ScottL: i cant find it
[01:34] <holstein> http://www.flickr.com/photos/7630391@N04/525284570/
[01:34] <holstein> has this kind of vibe though
[01:34] <holstein> dark
[01:34] <holstein> prolly darker than what your looking for
[01:34] <holstein> the color goes all the way from the bottom left to the top right
[01:35] <holstein> and the ubuntutsudio logo is subtle
[01:35] <holstein> which, you might not want a logo anyways
[01:35] <holstein> i wanted one
[01:35] <ScottL> holstein,  your comments are very similar to what i had in mind
[01:35] <holstein> i want people to ask about it when they see my studio
[01:35] <ScottL> low contrast colors, with "ubuntu studio" almost embossed on the lower right corner
[01:35] <holstein> ScottL: lighter though?
[01:36] <ScottL> well, not many colors actually, maybe a gradient, dark
[01:36] <holstein> COOL
[01:36] <holstein> let me dig this one off of my studio machine real quick...
[01:36] <holstein> i looked long and hard for it
[01:36] <ScottL> i don't like busy wallpaper for audio production desktops, and others have voiced the same opinion
[01:36] <holstein> we'll have to figure out where i found it ;)
[01:37] <ScottL> and since these are the only opinions being offered, it's what i'll probably go with
[01:42] <holstein> http://holstein.shacknet.nu/scott/
[01:42] <holstein> ScottL: the name is still there too
[01:43] <holstein> yeah
[01:43] <holstein> http://retimer.ru/2010/03/more-ubuntu-wallpapers/
[01:44] <holstein> thats where i found it
[01:52] <ScottL> holstein, http://retimer.ru/wp-content/gallery/ubuntu/Ubuntu_Metal_Alternative_by_MrElu.jpg
[01:53] <ScottL> this isn't really what i had in mind, but i like some elements of it
[01:53] <ScottL> it's dark, not too much contrast
[01:54] <ScottL> i don't really mind the banner running from left to right
[01:54] <ScottL> but the majority of the image is plain, which helps by not distracting from the desktop proper
[01:55] <ScottL> i think i will also take troy_s's advice and set up a meeting after we get some ideas and try to get people involved
[01:55] <holstein> this one is cool http://retimer.ru/wp-content/gallery/ubuntu/Hardy_Street_Dogs_by_Azraelthe7thMurderer.png
[01:55] <holstein> ScottL: yeah
[01:55] <holstein> i dropped the ball on the meeting :/
[01:55] <ScottL> holstein, did you every send out an email about the website meeting?
[01:55] <holstein> nope
[01:55] <ScottL> LOL, cross post
[01:56] <holstein> i'll do it right now though...
[01:56] <holstein> lets look at a date
[01:56] <holstein> and i'll make it happen
[01:56] <holstein> NOW
[01:56] <ScottL> we might push it back a week or so because of thanksgiving
[01:56] <holstein> you think the 30th is too soon?
[01:56] <holstein> tuesday after the holidays?
[01:57] <holstein> thats 8 days notice
[01:57] <holstein> not bad
[01:58] <ScottL> that sounds good, you might even mention if someone needs to ask about pushing the meeting back
[01:58] <holstein> im on it
[01:58] <ScottL> we should try to accomodate as many people as reasonably possible
[01:58] <holstein> ScottL: i mail to the general list right?
[01:58] <virtu> back
[01:58] <holstein> not the dev one?
[01:58] <ScottL> holstein, hell, i've been mailing both just to make sure
[01:58] <holstein> to catch more folk?
[01:58] <holstein> OK
[01:59] <holstein> i'll do that if i can find both addy's
[02:07] <ScottL> holstein, ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com and
[02:08] <ScottL> ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <holstein> yeah
[02:09] <holstein> working on the time conversion
[02:09] <holstein> cant get my mind around it ;)
[02:09] <ScottL> holstein, i'll try to show you what cory has as the plymouth theme image, it might be good also
[02:09] <holstein> i think i have it
[02:09] <holstein> 23:00 utc
[02:09] <holstein> is 6p for me
[02:09] <holstein> is that 5 for you?
[02:09] <holstein> maybe should be later...?
[02:09] <ScottL> i use this to help with time:  http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=6&day=13&year=2010&hour=19&min=0&sec=0&p1=0
[02:10] <ScottL> just adjust the time and date on the screen
[02:10] <ScottL> holstein, unless it is a saturday or sunday then 5pm for me is pretty bad , probably THE worst time :P
[02:13] <holstein> ScottL: 7 good?
[02:13] <holstein> thats 8 for me right?
[02:17] <holstein> there will be a website planning meeting in #ubuntustudio-devel on the freenode network Wednesday, December 1st @ 01:00:00 UTC.
[02:17] <holstein> let me know ASAP if there is a more convenient time. thanks
[02:18] <holstein> AND i have a freenode webchat link
[02:18] <holstein> where you just click and choose a username
[02:18] <holstein> solve a little captcha
[02:18] <holstein> and your dumped into the dev channel
[02:30] <holstein> ScottL: we dont have to have an agenda and all that right/
[02:30] <holstein> ?
[02:39] <ScottL> holstein, 7 is good
[02:40] <ScottL> holstein, we don't have to have an agenda published, but i highly recommend at least you and i have one or we probably will not accomplish much
[02:40] <holstein> sure, i just wanted to email one if there was one
[02:40] <ScottL> holstein, example of cory's plymouth theme:  http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/new-plymouth-theme.png
[02:40] <holstein> yeah
[02:40] <ScottL> because i did this with the plymouth-x11 plugin it didn't render correctly however
[02:40] <holstein> i like that :)
[02:41] <ScottL> the thing that looks like a water drop on the upper left should be over the ubuntustudio cof
[02:41] <ScottL> it rotates around the CoF
[02:41] <holstein> AH
[02:41] <holstein> even better
[02:42] <ScottL> it looks pretty snazy, i can send you an email with it and instructions too if you want to try it
[02:42] <ScottL> don't feel pressured like you have too though
[02:42] <ScottL> i was even thinking....what if we kept the plymouth theme, gdm background, and desktop wallpaper all the same?
[02:42] <holstein> sure
[02:43] <holstein> i acutal like that idea
[02:43] <holstein> actually*
[02:44] <holstein> maybe we get a good turn out
[02:44] <holstein> and we can sound some folk out at the meeting about this too
[02:44] <holstein> anyways, im going to hit send... on that email
[02:46] <ScottL> good deal :)
[03:09] <Kbuzz> why is it that I get scratchy playback sometimes with my delta 44 in every linux distro, but never in windows?
[03:10] <holstein> m-audios driver support?
[03:10] <holstein> Kbuzz: is it good with JACK?
[03:10] <Kbuzz> not always
[03:10] <holstein> drag :/
[03:11] <Kbuzz> I had the same problem in windows, but swtiching to an IDE drive saved the problem
[03:11] <Kbuzz> solved^
[03:11] <holstein> how hard are you pushing it?
[03:11] <holstein> in JACK?
[03:11] <Kbuzz> I'm playing music in audacious
[03:11] <Kbuzz> so not very hard ;)
[03:11] <holstein> interesting, IDE instead of SATA?
[03:11] <Kbuzz> yeah something to do with pci bus
[03:11] <holstein> thats a new one on me
[03:12] <Kbuzz> does any company have good drivers for similar hardware?
[03:12] <holstein> whats the specs on that again?
[03:12] <holstein> well
[03:12] <holstein> a better question
[03:12] <holstein> what do you need?
[03:13] <holstein> channels in?
[03:13] <holstein> preamps?
[03:13] <holstein> channels out?
[03:13] <Kbuzz> 4 in 4 out. thats all
[03:13] <Kbuzz> nah I use a mixer for preamp
[03:13] <Kbuzz> I figured a pci device would be the most stable
[03:13] <Kbuzz> but my m-audio transit worked a lot better
[03:13] <holstein> yeah
[03:14] <holstein> i got one of those
[03:14] <holstein> not bad
[03:14] <holstein> its cool that package got added too
[03:14] <holstein> madfuload or whatever
[03:14] <Kbuzz> there's a package now?
[03:14] <holstein> well, i think it supports other hardware as well
[03:14] <holstein> but yeah
[03:15] <holstein> sudo apt-get install madfuload
[03:15] <Kbuzz> I had to do some funny things to get the transit to work with jacklab a few years back
[03:15] <holstein> and boom
[03:15] <holstein> yeah, me too
[03:15] <holstein> have you looked at the zoomH4?
[03:15] <holstein> i like those
[03:15] <holstein> nice preamps on them
[03:15] <holstein> and the standalone aspect is cool
[03:16] <Kbuzz> that looks amazing, but is beyond what I need
[03:16] <holstein> yeah?
[03:16] <holstein> too pricey?
[03:17] <ailo> I've never had much trouble with m-audio, except for getting pulseaudio to detect the card
[03:17] <holstein> ive heard great things about the 1010lt
[03:17] <holstein> i thought you would be getting the same support though with the 44
[03:17] <ailo> I have the delta-66 and delta-1010lt
[03:17] <Kbuzz> they work fine? its the same driver I thought
[03:17] <holstein> maybe not
[03:18] <holstein> maybe it was the 66 and 1010 i looked into
[03:18] <ailo> I think the driver is the same for all delta cards
[03:18] <ailo> Same chip, right: ice1712
[03:18] <Kbuzz> yeah
[03:18] <holstein> Kbuzz: have you really used it for an extended period in windows?
[03:19] <Kbuzz> oh yeah
[03:19] <holstein> hmmm
[03:19] <holstein> interesting...
[03:19] <holstein> Kbuzz: did you update alsa?
[03:19] <Kbuzz> plenty. I've tried just about everything except putting it in a whole new rig.
[03:19] <Kbuzz> which might not be a bad idea at this point
[03:20] <holstein> sure
[03:20] <Kbuzz> could be something strange interfering that might only affect linux
[03:20] <holstein> but you should be able to rock and roll with that rig
[03:20] <holstein> what about IRQ's?
[03:20] <Kbuzz> yeah, but I mean other hardware interfering
[03:20] <Kbuzz> not sure how I might check that
[03:20] <holstein> cat /proc/interrupts
[03:21] <holstein> should be cool though i would think
[03:21] <holstein> since its on a PCI card
[03:21] <Kbuzz> run that while I'm hearing the scatchy sounds?
[03:21] <ailo> Once I had crackle in the speakers, and it turned out it was because of a vacuum cleaner (turned off), near the mics
[03:21] <Kbuzz> haha
[03:21] <holstein> nah, you can just look at it now
[03:21] <holstein> i'll just list the devices
[03:21] <holstein> and where they are assigned
[03:21] <Kbuzz> well I've heard of dirt in the device causing trouble, but it works perfectly in windows on the same machine.
[03:21] <holstein> ailo: hehe, strange
[03:22] <Kbuzz> cool, I'll check it out when I reboot
[03:22] <ailo> The cracle was faint. A guy said it was because of magnets or something. I have no idea
[03:24] <ailo> Kbuzz: do you have any extra pci cards installed, except for the audio device?
[03:24] <Kbuzz> just a video card
[03:26] <Kbuzz> switched video cards twice now and the same problem returns
[03:27] <Kbuzz> I've pretty much given up on solving the problem. I just need to find hardware that is similar and more supported.
[03:27] <ailo> considering you get the same problem with multiple distros makes it seem like it aught to be hardware related.
[03:28] <ailo> Well, I've used m-audio for 8 years or so. Never had much trouble.
[03:28] <Kbuzz> the card is on the Alsa preferred soundcards list, so I'm not sure what might be better
[03:30] <ailo> It should work well, I think. Have yo
[03:31] <ailo> Have you used it on windows after you got problems with Linux?
[03:31] <Kbuzz> yup, go back and forth everyday
[03:32] <Kbuzz> my video card has audio out in the hdmi, might try disabling that somehow
[03:33] <holstein> that doesnt account for JACK though
[03:34] <Kbuzz> doesn't matter if its jack or not. still sounds the same
[03:34] <holstein> no xruns
[03:34] <holstein> or other BS?
[03:34] <holstein> no error messages?
[03:35] <holstein> i bet youve tried all those jack settings too ;)
[03:35] <holstein> the force 16bit and all that
[03:35] <holstein> strange
[03:38] <ailo> should work well on default settings. Recently I used it on P3, 1GHz with latencies down to 5ms
[03:39] <holstein> its gotta be a way that the hardware is getting configured in linux
[03:39] <holstein> somehow
[03:39] <holstein> i would like to see that PCI card in linux on a different motherboard
[04:06] <Kbuzz> oh I get xruns alright
[04:07] <Kbuzz> plenty
[04:07] <Kbuzz> don't think I've ever shutdown without seeing them
[04:09] <holstein> you shouldnt
[04:09] <holstein> i konw pipeman doesnt get them with the 1010
[04:09] <holstein> ailo: when your running at around 4 ms, do you get any xruns?
[04:09] <Kbuzz> even with 128ms I get them
[04:10] <holstein> i think that supports the IRQ theory
[04:10] <holstein> worth looking into
[04:10] <Kbuzz> I'll try it now
[04:10] <Kbuzz> !reboot
[04:15] <Kbuzz> yeah, just booted up, 12 (70) xruns
[04:15] <Kbuzz> http://pastebin.ca/1999654
[04:16] <Kbuzz> not sure what to look for there
[04:16] <holstein> im pretty sure  20:         58       3341      53030   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ICE1712
[04:16] <holstein> ^^ thats it
[04:16] <holstein> and its off on its own...
[04:17] <Kbuzz> oh ok
[04:17] <holstein> hmmm
[04:18] <holstein> ill think about it
[04:19] <Kbuzz> :p I know the feeling
[04:19] <Kbuzz> thanks for the advice though. ruled out a few things
[04:19] <holstein> you might want to look in the JACK messages
[04:19] <holstein> and see what's there
[04:19] <holstein> maybe ask in #jack
[04:19] <holstein> or the mailing list over there
[21:03] <fabio> hello, anyboy of you can transform ape+cue files into mp3 files?
[21:04] <fabio> im a regular ubuntu user, but i have this issue
[21:04] <fabio> and seems to be outdated this libraries
[21:04] <fabio> please guys
[21:12] <Zzeiss> I just did a full reload with the newest Ubuntu Studio (X86-64) and all of my wireless adapters no longer function.
[21:12] <Zzeiss> So... i can't do an upgrade.  Any hints
[21:12] <Zzeiss> ?
[21:14] <Zzeiss> (heck, for that matter, it may be that _all_ networks are dead.  I tried two different wireless adapters (one USB, one PCI) and a Virgin Mobile USB CDMA WLAN and none of them function at all.  Help?
[21:15] <astraljava> fabio: Does this post shed any light on the problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6818506&postcount=6
[21:20] <astraljava> Zzeiss: But wired network still works?
[21:22] <astraljava> Zzeiss: I have little experience with non-working wireless, so I can only suggest going about it at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/internet/C/troubleshooting-wireless.html
[21:55] <Zzeiss> (actually, there's no wired ethernet (10baseT) within about 50 feet of the machine with no wireless, so I haven't tested that and hope I don't have to.)
[22:28] <Zzeiss> astraljava: The first post doesn't help- the "lshw -C network" command doesn't show +any+ of "claimed, unclaimed, enabled, disabled" for the wireless.  It does show "disabled" for the 10baset and that's reasonable as there's nothing plugged into it.
[23:36] <Zzeiss> I'm going to try a different approach... reinstall with NO network card, then add one later.