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CIA-42[ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101124000353-tkhtzdcpvmztrdwv * debian/ (30 files) * New upstream beta release: - Update various .install files - Bump build-depend versions on kdelibs5-dev to >= 4:4.5.80 - Add xsltproc to build-depends00:04
danttilol gstreamer conflicts with apt :P00:07
Riddelldantti: huh?00:12
danttiRiddell: there is a define in both libs00:13
danttiso I have to separete it myself00:13
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* ScottK notes GCC on arm takes a long time (the ice cream seems to have given up after a while)04:03
ScottKWe're on test suite now anyway.04:03
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apacheloggerdantti: ghostscript libs? :P08:38
apacheloggerdantti: what do you mean by finding? 08:39
apacheloggerfor linking?08:39
apacheloggersurely there ought to be example code for that since everyone outside Kland still uses autohell08:39
apacheloggerhm08:42
apacheloggerupgrading to 4.5.3 seems to wanna remove workspace :O08:42
apacheloggerInvestigating (0) plasma-dataengines-workspace [ i386 ] < 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu8 -> 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 > ( kde )08:46
apacheloggerBroken plasma-dataengines-workspace:i386 Depends on libweather-ion5 [ i386 ] < none -> 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 > ( libs ) (= 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1)08:46
apachelogger  Considering libweather-ion5:i386 2 as a solution to plasma-dataengines-workspace:i386 408:46
apachelogger  Removing plasma-dataengines-workspace:i386 rather than change libweather-ion5:i38608:46
apacheloggerin and out and in and out08:58
* apachelogger pokes fldc08:58
apacheloggerThe following packages will be REMOVED:09:01
apachelogger  libweather-ion4a09:01
apacheloggerThe following NEW packages will be installed:09:01
apachelogger  libweather-ion509:01
apacheloggerwhat the fudge?09:01
apacheloggerRiddell: pingy09:01
apacheloggerVersion: 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa109:02
apacheloggerReplaces: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5, libweather-ion4, libweather-ion4-api, libweather-ion4a09:02
apacheloggerthat relatin with 4a is nothing but pointless since the package only contains library content and thus there is no real relation of any sort 09:03
fldcapachelogger: damn mobile broadband :D09:09
apacheloggerfldc: get yourself a quassel core :P09:10
fldcapachelogger: I should, yes :D09:11
apacheloggeraha!09:14
apacheloggeroh no :(09:14
* apachelogger is wondering why aptitude suggests to remove the old lib before trying to remove a whole bunch of packages, whereas apt-get tries to preservethe lib09:15
apacheloggerlatter is even stranger in light of apparently each package depending on it being upgraded09:15
apacheloggeroh09:22
apacheloggerPackage: libweather-ion509:23
apacheloggerProvides: libweather-ion4-api09:23
apacheloggerReplaces: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5, libweather-ion4, libweather-ion4-api09:23
apacheloggerConflicts: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5, libweather-ion4, libweather-ion4-api09:23
apacheloggeris it just me09:23
apacheloggeror is that completely bogus09:23
apacheloggerfirst of all ion5 provides ion4?09:24
apacheloggerand then it conflicts itself?09:24
apacheloggersince it provides ion4 but conflicts and replaces ion4?09:24
valorielibweather has been a problem, for sure09:24
apacheloggerhm09:27
* apachelogger wonders09:27
apacheloggerthen again, provides&replaces&conflicts has transitional merit 09:27
* apachelogger consults the policy manual09:28
apacheloggerhttp://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s7.6.209:28
apacheloggertrue true09:28
apacheloggerso that makes sense after all09:28
apachelogger...09:28
apacheloggerif it were providing ion4 :P09:28
* apachelogger doubts that dropping the relation with 4a will resolve the issue, since that removal relation with ion4-api might get in the way of things09:34
ulyssesRiddell: ping09:38
apacheloggerulysses: time for team report?09:48
ulyssesoops09:48
ulysseshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/TeamReports09:59
apacheloggeris it me or is the wiki dead slow?10:00
ulyssesslower than a dead horse10:01
Riddellulysses: hi10:24
ulyssesRiddell: I changed the debian/control and debian/copyright http://paste.ubuntu.com/535820/10:25
ulyssesRiddell: if the copyright correct, only the splitting remains10:26
Riddellulysses: I'd do it more explicitly than that, copy and paste lines 21 to 40 then "The source code in apps/" and remove "Lesser"10:27
ulyssesgood point10:28
ulysseshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/535836/10:30
Riddellulysses: remove Lesser in line 4810:35
Riddellalso line 51, and copy and paste lines 51/52 at line 3510:36
ulyssesdone10:38
Riddellgroovy10:41
ulyssesRiddell: How do I the split of hupnp?10:56
Riddellulysses: create several package descriptions in debian/control11:02
Riddellthen make <package>.install files in debian/ which list the files that should go in each package11:03
RiddellJontheEchidna: can kubuntu_91_phonon_forget_option.diff go upstream?11:09
Riddellapachelogger: ^^11:09
apacheloggerRiddell: where is that?11:11
Riddellapachelogger: kdebase-runtime11:12
Riddellapachelogger: also any idea where this mysterious phonon 4.4.3 can be found?  kdebase-runtime needs that11:12
apacheloggerRiddell: not released yet11:12
Riddellthat's unhelpful11:12
apacheloggerRiddell: you can patch to 4.4.2 really11:13
apacheloggerthere is absolutely no reason to require 4.4.3 from a libphonon POV11:13
Riddellso can we just change that in kde svn?11:14
apacheloggeryeah11:15
ulyssesRiddell: something like for libhupnp-dev? debian/tmp/usr/include/HUpnpCore/11:16
apacheloggerRiddell: better try it first though, maybe someone introduced usage of API that is not even technically targetted for 4.4.311:16
Riddellulysses: yes although you can miss out the "debian/tmp/"11:16
apacheloggerthere seems to be a bit of a confusion of phonon master and the 4.4 branch11:16
Riddellulysses: you also want the foo.so files11:17
apachelogger(that said I am probably going to release from anyway)11:17
Riddellulysses: in the -dev11:17
apacheloggerRiddell: patch looks upstreamable at first glance11:18
Riddellapachelogger: groovy, can you propose it in the right place then commit it if it's all good?11:18
apacheloggeryeah11:19
ulyssesRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535854/11:20
ulyssesoops, I'll be late from the lesson11:21
ulyssesbrb in two hours11:22
Riddellulysses: bye11:22
ulyssesbye Riddell 11:22
Riddellulysses: libhupnp0.install wants usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.*11:23
Riddell../../../phonon/kded-module/phononserver.cpp:66:5: error: 'registerMetaTypes' is not a member of 'Phonon'11:39
Riddellapachelogger: guess I need this elusive phonon 4.4.311:39
apacheloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/phonon/compat_reports/libphonon/4.4.2_to_4.4.3/abi_compat_report.html11:50
apacheloggeryeah11:50
apacheloggerthat is a new interface11:50
apacheloggerthen again said interface is not part of the 4.4 branch, so technically would not be part of it11:51
Riddellapachelogger: so 4.4.3 isn't good enough?11:56
apacheloggerit will be11:58
apacheloggerunless someone objects within the next couple of hours I will release git master as 4.4.311:58
apacheloggerbecause the actual 4.4 branch is not of much use and master actually contains plenty of good things11:58
Riddellshouldn't that be 4.5 then?11:59
apacheloggerthere isnt really anything that would indicate bumping to 4.512:00
apacheloggermostly just fixes and a bit of movement in phononexperimental12:00
apacheloggeroh, actually git master's cmake file says 4.4.3 -.-12:02
apacheloggerthis is a mess!!!12:02
Riddelldoesn't that match your release plans exactly?12:04
apacheloggerwell, yes, just saying :P12:25
Riddellmaco: owncloud 1.1 released if you're looking at the feasability of packaging it12:40
ScottKThat would be nice.12:41
apacheloggerphonon phonon phonon12:45
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* nigelb releases apachelogger v.10.10 nicknamed releaselogger.12:51
releaseloggerYAY12:51
nigelbheh12:51
* nigelb hugs releaselogger 12:51
* releaselogger rehugs nigelb12:51
nigelbhaha12:52
releaseloggermy rekonq is boken12:52
jussireleaselogger: no suprise...12:59
* nigelb waves to jussi 13:00
* ulysses back13:50
Riddellhi ulysses 13:54
ulysseshello Riddell13:54
ulyssesI added /usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.* to libhupnp0.install13:55
Riddellulysses: that's all it needs13:56
Riddellnothing else13:56
Riddelland no / at the start either13:56
ulyssesRiddell: I created a source package, now I test the build in pbuilder14:00
Riddellulysses: can you pastebin all the .install files and control ?14:02
ulyssescontrol: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535892/ .install files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535893/14:04
Riddellulysses: you need libhupnp-dev in debian/control14:25
Riddellulysses: libhupnp0.install only needs the last line, the rest can go14:25
ulyssesRiddell: do you mean libhupnp0-dev?14:27
Riddellulysses: best to call it libhupnp-dev 14:28
Riddellyou only need the soname number in the -dev if there's multiple versions of the library in the archive14:28
ulysseslibhupnp-dev is there14:29
ulyssesdpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libQtSolutions_SOAP-2.7.so.1 needed by debian/libhupnp0/usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.7.1 (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: '').14:35
Riddellulysses: libqtsolutions-soap-2.7-1.install wants to have "usr/lib/libQtSolutions_SOAP-2.7.so.1.0.0" and "usr/lib/libQtSolutions_SOAP-2.7.so.1" in it14:40
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ulyssesRiddell: success!14:46
Riddellulysses: awooga14:49
Riddelloh jings, the new qtwebkit breaks compiles14:55
macoRiddell: ok15:03
CIA-42[libqapt] jmthomas * 1200290 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.h config.h package.h) Add @since to the apidox of new methods in 1.115:06
CIA-42[libqapt] jmthomas * 1200291 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.h One more @since15:06
CIA-42[libqapt] jmthomas * 1200292 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/config.h Correct the location of this @since15:09
ulyssesRiddell: what's next? dput again to revu?15:27
Riddellulysses: yes15:28
ScottKRiddell: Did you look at the kdegraphics failure yet?  I may have a fix and will look into if you haven't taken care of it yet.15:35
ulyssesRiddell: uploaded15:37
* ScottK fixes kdegraphics.15:44
Riddellthanks ScottK 16:05
Riddellulysses: comments added to revu16:05
ScottKRiddell: No problem. It was an easy one.  Uploaded.16:06
ScottK(so easy that I managed to upload it once to ninjas without the actual fix)16:06
ulyssesRiddell: fixed, uploaded again16:22
ScottKBTW, soyuz is very backlogged at the moment, so don't be suprised if it takes a while for uploads to appear/get accepted.16:29
dantti_workis it possible to hack in plasma with project neon?16:32
Riddellulysses: still some bits missing16:32
Riddelldantti_work: you can hack in whatever you like16:32
Riddellit's just a trunk build, so depends if trunk is what you want16:33
dantti_workRiddell: but does the packages comes with sources too? and is it working btw? i heard about it being broken these days16:33
Riddelldantti_work: you can download the package sources of course but generally you want to code on an svn checkout16:34
Riddellit'll install into /opt so it's safe to install, of course trunk can break so it may not run16:35
dantti_workRiddell: so I'd install neo, and the svn co kickoff and it will compile against neon libs?16:35
shadeslayerRiddell: will the packages i put in backports, remain there forever?16:36
shadeslayerlike ... till next LTS atleast16:36
Riddellif you -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/neon then yes16:36
releaseloggerlibweather-ion is still screwing up my upgarde16:36
dantti_workRiddell: k, thanks, i'll install then and see what happens :P16:37
releaseloggerstupid thing16:37
Riddellshadeslayer: packages in kubuntu-ppa/backports get deleted when we delete them, in lucid-backports or whatever they stay there indefinately16:37
shadeslayerreleaselogger: KDE 4.6 ?16:37
QuintasanScottK: ping16:37
releaseloggershadeslayer: no 4.5.316:37
ScottKQuintasan: Pong (yes, I haven't forgotten)16:37
shadeslayerreleaselogger: for lucid?16:37
QuintasanGreat.16:37
releaseloggerfor maverick16:37
shadeslayerah16:37
shadeslayeri think i might have found 2 minions @ college today16:38
ulyssesRiddell: hm, I renamed libqtsolutions-soap-2.7-0 to -2.7-116:38
shadeslayerRiddell: could we not remove the 4.5.3 packages from backports till next LTS?16:38
shadeslayeruh16:40
shadeslayereh16:40
dantti_workRiddell: can't install deps problems16:40
shadeslayerwhy do i have a 700 MB upgrade16:40
dantti_workdoes it requires natty too?16:40
shadeslayerand that too for 4.5.3 KDE16:40
yofeldantti_work: neon is for lucid and maverick currently16:40
yofeldantti_work: which ppa do you use?16:41
Quintasandantti_work: plus we do not have kdebindings since trunk is broken ATM16:41
dantti_workyofel: oh, the techbase package had jaunty on the sources.list16:41
Quintasanyofel: which packages exactly does my sip upload breaks?16:42
yofeldantti_work: thebase page is outdated, we'll need to update that sometime16:42
yofeldantti_work: our ppa is https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/16:42
dantti_workQuintasan: well as kickoff does not use bindings I think I'm ok right?16:42
QuintasanI think yes16:42
yofeldantti_work: which component is kickoff in?16:42
yofelQuintasan: not sure, I at least got a ABI mismatch error when I tried apport-kde16:43
Quintasankdebase-workspace I believe16:43
Quintasanso apport is broken, hmmm16:43
dantti_workyofel: plasma16:43
shadeslayersomething broke in KPK16:43
shadeslayeri cant edit origins16:43
* shadeslayer looks at dantti_work16:43
Quintasanyofel: 8.0 is not backwards compatible then?16:43
dantti_workshadeslayer: hmm :P16:43
dantti_workshadeslayer: does the software properties open?16:44
shadeslayerdantti_work: i disabled a PPA -> Clicked on edit origins -> kaboom16:44
yofelQuintasan: doesn't seem so, I'll try it later on my other pc again, I'm on natty currently16:44
shadeslayeri get the bouncy icon16:44
dantti_workshadeslayer: does it crash?16:44
shadeslayerno16:44
dantti_workhere it works fine16:44
shadeslayerit just sits there16:44
shadeslayerit worked before16:44
shadeslayerjust isnt working now16:45
dantti_workis software-properties installed?16:45
shadeslayersoftware-properties-kde is installed16:46
shadeslayerdantti_work: http://pastebin.ca/200107516:46
* Quintasan needs to upgrade his maverick kvm16:46
shadeslayerkonsole output16:46
shadeslayerQuintasan: tell me about it... i have 700 MB's of updates16:47
dantti_workshadeslayer: kdesudo software-properties-kde16:48
dantti_workdoes that work?16:48
shadeslayeroh boi16:48
shadeslayerhttp://pastebin.ca/200107816:48
shadeslayersomething broke16:48
shadeslayerwho broke SIP16:49
dantti_workyofel: yes, the techbase page is really old :P even the package names are different :P16:49
yofeldantti_work: right, that was the old neon ppa which someone should get rid of, we're starting fresh with new packages16:49
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Quintasanshadeslayer: I did :P16:53
shadeslayerQuintasan: Stop breaking stuff! 16:53
shadeslayerand go fix it16:53
QuintasanIt is broken since like, well, three weeks ago?16:54
Quintasanshadeslayer: remove the PPA version and it should work16:54
shadeslayeroh.. i just found out :P16:55
shadeslayeri dont usually use kpk... but just thought i should have a poke around to make sure nothing was broken :P16:56
Quintasan>implying we were not talking about the breakage at least three times16:56
Quintasan:P16:56
dantti_workok, kdebase-neon installed how do I run it? can I use the same account in Xephyr?16:57
Quintasandantti_work: you'd rather not, the options somehow are still saved to your ~/.kde folder16:58
QuintasanI think we are working on it16:58
dantti_workok16:58
yofelwe are, most are stored in ~/.project-neon-kde, but *something* doesn't seem to respect that16:59
dantti_workok, working wonderfully :D17:01
Quintasanit works?17:01
Quintasanomfg17:01
* Quintasan hugs shadeslayer and yofel17:01
shadeslayerwheee17:01
* shadeslayer hugs his Desire 17:01
shadeslayer:P17:01
yofelwell, if you install project-neon-common you can even login from KDM, which works, with errors though last time I tried it17:01
Quintasanbeer for us at UDS17:02
dantti_workQuintasan: :P next time I go ..17:02
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dantti_worknow I need to add apacheloggers request to aptcc and then add my precious feature to kickoff 17:03
* dantti_work just hopes it's not too late for 4.617:03
bulldog98dantti_work: we are already packaging the beta for 4.617:04
dantti_workbulldog98: yes, I know, time is hard... but.. maybe :P17:05
shadeslayerQuintasan: till LP guys fix bug 676657, we cant build qtwebkit :(17:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 676657 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "recipe builds can use too much memory" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67665717:15
shadeslayers/fix/release17:15
shadeslayerhmm17:16
shadeslayerRiddell: seems kdegraphics wants XFixes 17:16
shadeslayer!find Xfixes.h17:17
ubottuFile Xfixes.h found in libxfixes-dev17:17
shadeslayer!find Xfixes.h natty17:18
Riddellshadeslayer: yes we can keep packages in kubuntu-ppa/backports as long as we want17:18
shadeslayerkewl :)17:18
Riddellshadeslayer: which kdegraphics are you looking at?17:19
shadeslayerRiddell: the 4.6 one for natty17:19
shadeslayeri just got mailed that it failed to build17:19
shadeslayerneeds libxfixes-dev from the look of it17:19
yofelQuintasan: how many releases did we want to support again? Currently natty is out of question unless we drop lucid or get more space (ok, the recipes don't work for natty yet, but we should think about it..)17:19
Riddellshadeslayer: ok, blame ScottK he did the last upload :)17:20
shadeslayeryofel: imo we go with Maverick and Lucid .... natty already gets 4.617:20
ScottKppa3 already fixes that17:20
shadeslayerso thats out of question till ... id say last natty alpha17:20
yofelk, postponed then17:21
* ScottK made the changelog entry, got distracted, and then came back to ppa2 and uploaded without making the actual change in debian/control.17:21
shadeslayerokies17:23
shadeslayeri was just going through humoungus amount of mail17:24
shadeslayersaw that... 17:24
Riddellshadeslayer: going to add the 4.5.3 on lucid announce to kubuntu.org ?17:30
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah ill do that ... once i finish deciding whether or not im going to osscamp.in17:30
Quintasanyofel, shadeslayer: move out to #project-neon17:32
shadeslayerkk17:32
neversfeldewould someone add my new ssh key to ktown, I lost my old one17:38
neversfeldehttps://launchpad.net/~neversfelde/+sshkeys17:38
ScottKJontheEchidna: Looks like we are consistently seeing differnent symbols on amd64 (see the kdegraphics amd64 FTBFS)17:48
Riddellneversfelde: hang on17:51
Riddellneversfelde: done17:51
neversfeldeRiddell: thank you17:51
Riddellneversfelde: going to do some ninja'ing?17:53
neversfeldeRiddell: I guess I'll start with kdenetwork17:54
Riddellneversfelde: careful there's an issue there that's been discussed on kde-packagers, it needs something fixed around libktorrent 17:55
neversfeldeRiddell: yes, I know17:55
neversfeldean will have a look17:55
Riddellhi jasoncwarner1 17:56
jasoncwarner1Riddell: Hi!17:56
Riddelleveryone say hi to jasoncwarner1, he's the new manager of Canonical's desktop team17:56
ulysseshi jasoncwarner1 17:56
nixternalhi jasoncwarner1 17:56
jasoncwarner1Good morning everyone!17:57
nixternal3 minutes till noon here :)17:57
ulysses19 pm here17:57
jasoncwarner14:30am here ;) 17:57
ulyssesa bit different timezone:P17:57
neversfeldehi jasoncwarner117:58
Riddellhi shadeslayer 17:58
Riddellhi sheytan rather17:58
shadeslayer:P17:58
nixternalDarkwingDuck: in the next couple of weeks, prior to x-mas, i want to get together for docs. i need to fix some things and change some things...now i can run out and do what i need to do for the day, and of course it has to do with...wait for it...wait for it....cycling & microsoft17:59
shadeslayerRiddell: should i put in the fact that these packages were paid for by a company?18:01
sheytanHi Riddell18:01
shadeslayerand how do i word that :P18:01
sheytanRiddell did you see the page we made? :)18:01
Riddellshadeslayer: yes we normally put a thanks at the end so a thanks to foo for funding them should be fine18:02
Riddellsheytan: nope18:02
sheytanshadeslayer do you have that link i gave you to show Riddell?18:02
sheytanmine is lost ;/18:02
shadeslayeruh.. hold on :P18:03
sheytanok18:03
shadeslayerhttp://ryrych.pl/null/kubuntu/index.html18:03
shadeslayerthere ya go18:04
sheytanRiddell ^^18:04
sheytanthanks shadeslayer :)18:04
* sheytan is gone for dinner. brb18:04
Riddellooh pretty18:05
shadeslayerRiddell: so for proof reading, i publish the page, but dont push it to Main site?18:06
Riddellshadeslayer: for proofreading just save it18:08
shadeslayerhmm18:08
Riddellwithout ticking the publish box18:08
* bulldog98 is learning vim18:08
Riddellbulldog98: bah, nasty habit, emacs rules18:09
shadeslayerRiddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-release-day-453-lucid ... hehe :P18:09
shadeslayerAccess Denied :P18:09
shadeslayersame link on admin site works :)18:09
bulldog98Riddell: I need to learn that to, so I can use every editor in the world ^^ (Muhaha)18:09
Riddellshadeslayer: I'd replace lucid with 10.10 in the headline18:10
Riddellotherwise looks good18:10
shadeslayerojk18:10
shadeslayerok18:10
ulyssesdo you mean 10.04?:P18:10
shadeslayer10.04 you mean18:10
shadeslayerRiddell: news/kde-release-day-453-100418:11
Riddellshadeslayer: lovely18:13
Riddelltick that publish box18:13
shadeslayerdone :)18:14
ulyssesRiddell: any idea to fix the shlib error?18:14
Riddellulysses: which is that?18:15
ulyssesE: libhupnp0: ldconfig-symlink-missing-for-shlib usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0 usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.7.1 libHUpnp.so.0 18:15
Riddellulysses: put usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0 into libhupnp0.install18:15
ulyssesRiddell: doesn't help18:22
ScottKshadeslayer: Are you going to be keeping these packages up to date for security fixes?18:23
Riddellulysses: you have /usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0 in libhupnp0 ?18:23
shadeslayerScottK: ill keep a eye out for such stuff... i am subscribed to kde-packager18:23
ulyssesRiddell: just usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0 and usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.*18:24
Riddellshadeslayer: oh it should probably have the warning about being unable to upgrade to maverick18:24
ScottKshadeslayer: How about ubuntu-security-notifications?18:24
Riddellulysses: both18:24
shadeslayeroh yes18:24
shadeslayerScottK: didnt know about that one18:24
shadeslayerill subscribe to it18:24
ScottKshadeslayer: Good plan.18:24
shadeslayeris it the ubuntu-security-announce ML ?18:24
shadeslayerRiddell: Warning: Adding this PPA will cause problems while upgrading to Maverick, since Maverick has KDE 4.5.1 in the official repositories18:26
shadeslayerlook ok?18:26
shadeslayeror should i just lose the last part18:27
sheytanRiddell do you want the files?18:29
Riddellshadeslayer: "Warning: Adding this PPA will make the computer unable to upgrade to 10.10 which has an older version of KDE Platform"18:32
Riddellsheytan: what files?18:32
sheytanRiddell the daily builds page18:32
Riddellsheytan: what files are there?18:33
sheytanRiddell the code? html+css18:33
Riddellwell I can get that from the link above18:34
sheytanRiddell as you wish :)18:34
Riddellthe fiddly part is working out how it needs to be split up and integrated with the cd build scripts18:35
sheytanWell, i have no idea about that :D18:40
ulyssesRiddell: no progress18:40
Riddellulysses: put what you have onto revu18:44
dantti_workRiddell: aptcc has now gstreamer search codec support :) as apachelogger asked :P18:45
Riddelldantti_work: cor, what uses that?18:45
dantti_workRiddell: well afaik toten and phonon-gstreamer will18:46
Riddellnice18:47
dantti_workfunny python apt backend has code for it too but it says it's not supported :( I can measure time now :P18:48
hungerWhy aren't there any updates in natty nowadays?18:49
ulyssesRiddell: uploaded18:49
Riddellhunger: from our side 4.6 beta hasn't been released yet so it's all secret for now18:50
Riddellalso launchpad may be clogged up I heard18:50
hungerRiddell: I have not seen a single package update in natty since last sunday or so... Am I doing something wrong?18:51
hungerIt has never been so quiet before...18:51
yofelcould have been the extras issue, try again18:51
hungeryofel: Still nothing:-/18:52
yofelhm, any error when you run apt-get update in konsole?18:52
hungeryofel: Just did a update in aptitude... still nothing:-/ No new packages, no updates.18:52
hungerMaybe my mirror is out of sync or something.18:53
yofelcould be, there was bug 678196, but mvo says it's fixed18:53
hungerHmm... mirror is archive.ubuntu.com... that should not be out of sync:-)18:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 678196 in apt (Ubuntu Natty) "Ubuntu extras repository prevents other updates" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67819618:53
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hungerI don't have the extra repo enabled, so it must be something different.18:55
yofelyou don't have any packages installed that were updated maybe? There weren't *that* many updates in the last few days18:55
yofelI have a ton of updates today though18:56
yofeland let's move to #ubuntu+118:56
hungeryofel: Possible... but I never had that long a silence before:-)18:56
shadeslayerbrrrr18:58
shadeslayerhas anyone bridged a wireless and wired connection before?18:59
shadeslayerand set up wifi and ethernet sharing ?18:59
apacheloggerhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/en/man8/iptables.8.html18:59
yofelonly in windows...18:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: i can do everything i just said via iptables?19:00
apacheloggeryes19:00
apacheloggerthough from my POV what you said where two equal sentences19:00
shadeslayeryep19:00
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shadeslayeri need to first figure out how to start a adhoc wifi network first :P19:01
blogloggergnome-network-manager :P19:01
shadeslayerew19:02
shadeslayerbloglogger: i installed that, but cant start nm-applet .. says a instance is already running19:02
shadeslayer:P19:02
yofelyou would need to kill the plasma applet to run nm-applet, no idea how to do that though19:03
yofel(without removing it)19:04
shadeslayerthats what i was thinking... but how do you kill the plasmoid :P19:04
shadeslayerhmm19:04
blogloggershadeslayer: remove it19:04
shadeslayeruh ok19:04
shadeslayerheh http://pastebin.ca/200122219:06
blogloggeryou did not install all recommends19:07
blogloggersheytan: ping19:08
blogloggerhm, the nick kind of gives away whatI want ^^19:08
sheytanbloglogger yo19:08
blogloggersheytan: do you have time to ditch together something phonon real quick?19:09
blogloggersomething like http://phonon.kde.org/ ... just with readable font and proper size19:09
shadeslayerbloglogger: heh : http://pastebin.ca/200123519:12
shadeslayerpossibly gnome-icon-theme is missing?19:13
blogloggerlooks like your dbus is busted?19:13
bloglogger** (nm-applet:32012): WARNING **: <WARN>  bus_init(): Could not get the session bus.  Make sure the message bus daemon is running!  Message: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-QLFJHyev6l: Connection refused19:13
bloglogger 19:13
blogloggeror maybe something polkit19:13
sheytanbloglogger what is it?19:13
shadeslayerpossibly requires a reboot?19:13
blogloggersheytan: KDE's abstractin for multimedia stuff things19:14
bloglogger(i.e. the thing that makes sure your amarok is able to play music on linux, mac and windows ;))19:14
sheytanbloglogger i know what's phonon. But what's you want to do with it? :D19:14
blogloggersheytan: I want a blog header ;)19:15
blogloggernow srsly, you could have guessed that from the nick :P19:15
sheytanbloglogger let me take a look what i can do for you :)19:15
* bloglogger needs to send a truck of cookies to sheytan at some point19:15
sheytanwould be cool :D19:16
ulyssesbloglogger: pay him a bunch of cookies at the UDS19:16
sheytanyeah, when i ever come :)19:16
blogloggerthere is more useful things to be bought at UDS19:17
ulyssesUDS will be very close to us19:17
blogloggerclearly ulysses will attend ^^19:17
ulysses^^19:17
ScottKbloglogger: I think apacheblogger would have been clearer.19:21
shadeslayerbloglogger: http://pastebin.ca/2001262 :P19:22
blogloggerScottK: is that so? :P19:25
ScottKIt is.19:25
blogloggerwho is up for blog proofreading?19:27
ulysseso/19:29
ulyssesteh grammar nazi iz here!19:29
blogloggernot so much about grammer, more about continuity and stuff ^^19:30
Riddellooh, kalgebramobile, mobile is getting everywhere19:30
* bloglogger has problems holding thoughts for longer than a minute19:30
dantti_workbloglogger: your gstreamer support is done :)19:32
ScottKRiddell: We need to chat with cjwatson about what to do with the mobile seed.  I'm pretty sure stuff everything in Main isn't the right answer for this cycle.19:33
dantti_workbloglogger: btw can you provide some search strings you use so that I can make a few more tests before I forgot this code :P19:35
RiddellScottK: it doesn't feel right for sure19:35
Riddellmaking a new kubuntu-mobile seed would make sense19:35
ScottKIt'd be nice if germinate supported mulitple seed that used different pockets.19:36
ScottK(so we could keep a common seed for the actual common stuff)19:36
ScottKCould you perhaps chat with him about it while us Americans are off stuffing ourselves with turkey?19:36
Riddellcould do 19:37
blogloggerdantti_work: document it :P19:37
ScottKCool.19:37
* bloglogger looks for evil codecs19:37
ulyssesturturkeykey19:37
ScottKBTW, libs built on arm. 19:37
Riddellyay19:37
dantti_workbloglogger: I'm writting a techbase page about packagekit session installer (not finish yet19:37
ScottKPretty fast with 4 boxes icecreaming.19:37
Riddellsadly with qtwebkit it now won't build anywhere19:37
* ScottK won't update the chroot.19:38
blogloggerdantti_work: ok19:38
Riddellulysses: http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/hupnp.debdiff19:38
ScottK(this chroot is generally stale enough to have the old gcc where one could build Qt stuff on arm)19:38
ScottKRiddell: ping about akonadi in binary New when you have a moment.19:39
ulyssesRiddell: date of libqtsolutions-soap-2.7-1.install is a bit strange19:40
Riddellaccepting akonadi means kdepim needs either a rebuild or an upgrade to 4.6 beta19:40
Riddellulysses: means it's a new file19:40
ScottKRiddell: It does?19:41
ScottKpim or pimlibs?19:41
Riddellulysses: the file moved19:41
shadeslayerbloglogger: apparently bug 41634119:41
ScottKNo rush in any case19:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 416341 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "network-manager-gnome does not depend on gnome-icon-theme" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41634119:41
RiddellScottK: kdepim-runtme (which depends on libakonadiprivate1)19:41
dantti_workshadeslayer: I think I know what happened to software properties ! :P19:42
ScottKAh.19:42
dantti_workshadeslayer: are you using neon?19:42
shadeslayerdantti_work: yus.. but its a bit outdated19:42
ScottKI guess we should see if kdepim builds against this.19:42
dantti_workshadeslayer: after I enabled neon I updated some python-qt... and now it does not open anymore :P19:42
ScottKI'll check it.19:42
yofeldantti_work: that would be SIP breaking PyKDE, downgrade the PPA python packages19:43
shadeslayerbloglogger: even if i setup a new connection, it doesnt show up on the device19:43
dantti_workyofel: hehe thanks... shadeslayer you too ^^19:43
yofeldantti_work: known issue19:43
shadeslayer:)19:43
blogloggershadeslayer: worked here, last I tried19:45
shadeslayer:(19:46
blogloggermaybe it is hidden?19:48
shadeslayernow how do i check that :P19:50
sheytanbloglobber http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5364/headermmedia.png19:52
sheytanbloglogger :D19:52
Riddellulysses: can you apply that debdiff, verify it does what you want, fix W: libhupnp-dev: wrong-section-according-to-package-name libhupnp-dev => libdevel, upload to revu and get someone else to review?19:56
Riddellthan we're done19:57
ulyssesRiddell: rename libhupnp-dev to libhupnp-devel?19:58
Riddellulysses: no just add a Section: to debian/ctonrol for libhupnp-dev19:58
ulyssesRiddell: done20:01
sheytanbloglogger like it? :)20:02
Riddellreview needed! http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/hupnp20:03
blogloggershadeslayer: can you make that use the phonon logo and say phonon develope rather than kubuntu developer? :D20:04
blogloggersheytan: ^20:04
blogloggershadeslayer: sry20:04
sheytansure20:04
shadeslayerbloglogger: so wicd can do the trick20:15
shadeslayerbut android doesnt see adhoc networks20:15
blogloggerwell20:16
blogloggerI told you20:16
blogloggeryou were not listen20:16
blogloggerandroid is crap20:16
shadeslayer:P20:16
* bloglogger had a lengthy discussion about the horriblyness of android compared to iOS just yesterday20:16
shadeslayeri just need to get a router now20:16
blogloggerulysses: did you talk to upstream about getting libqtsolutions-soap out of the source?20:17
* bloglogger has a very bad feeling about it20:17
ulyssesbloglogger: nope20:17
shadeslayerim going to sleep20:17
shadeslayercya20:17
blogloggernini shadeslayer20:18
ulyssesgood night shadeslayer 20:18
blogloggerulysses: I am not exactly comfortable advocating the package before there is at least a plan for soap :S20:18
sheytanbloglogger http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5364/headermmedia.png20:18
yofelgn shadeslayer20:18
blogloggershadeslayer: most terrific, thank you :)20:19
blogloggersheytan: ^20:19
* bloglogger has autocomplete fail today20:19
* bloglogger hugs sheytan and declares him his favorite kubuntu artist20:19
sheytan:)20:19
blogloggerTBH JontheEchidna never was good at drawing, but I wouldnt say it to his face, to not hurt his feelings20:20
DarkwingDuckbloglogger?20:20
sheytanbtw, the technical side of kubuntu's new shiny web page has made big progress :D20:20
DarkwingDuckwouldn't apacheblogger be better?20:20
blogloggerhttp://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/aubertruck-png.png20:20
Quintasanhmmm20:21
blogloggerabstract art is not for me20:21
Quintasanupgrade was quite painless20:21
JontheEchidna:P20:21
blogloggerDarkwingDuck: how is that?20:21
DarkwingDuckbloglogger: sounds better20:21
DarkwingDuck:P20:21
blogloggerI do not compute20:22
bloglogger!20:22
DarkwingDuckhehehe20:22
ulyssesbloglogger: what kind of plan?20:25
blogloggerulysses: on how to get rid of it20:27
blogloggerbecause we should grab the source from nokia and package it individually20:27
blogloggerit really should not be distributed as part of hupnp20:28
ulyssesI write to Tuomo, I'm sure he will help20:28
blogloggerrevu'd20:30
ulyssesbloglogger: I sent an e-mail to Tuomo about getting libqtsolutions-soap out from the source20:37
blogloggerkthx20:37
ScottKsheytan: Could we have a shiny new wiki theme to match the web site?20:42
sheytanScottK i could, but no time these days. That have to wait at least a month 20:43
ScottKsheytan: I doubt anyone else will get to it before then.20:43
ScottKYou don't want me to get out my crayons.20:43
ulyssesbloglogger: I made a get-orig-source based on Ubuntu wiki: http://paste.ubuntu.com/536045/20:44
sheytanScottK yep, i'm really busy with work and some design for others + the kubuntu page, but i hope to have some more free time after new year :)20:44
ScottKsheytan: Thanks.  You're doing good work and we could use more of it.20:45
sheytanSctooK you already have pdf/prefentations templates, web page is almost there, bloglogger has his blog headers, etc :D20:45
sheytanthere's more where that came from :)20:46
* bloglogger is wondering with what mail addy he is subscribed to kde-packagers20:47
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ScottKExcellent20:49
CIA-42[libqapt] jmthomas * 1200371 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/ (4 files in 2 dirs) Add QApt::History, a class giving an interface to the APT history logfiles.20:51
CIA-42[libqapt] jmthomas * 1200374 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (history.cpp history.h) Add a HistoryItem::errorString() fuction to retreive the error encountered during a transaction in the log, if applicable20:56
apacheloggerRiddell: phonon available20:57
apachelogger1. I tried to install both packages via “KPackageKit”, the software manager for Kubuntu. I get an error message of “You have failed to provide a correct au Please check any passwords or accou…” yep, it cut off just like that. Um, it didn’t ask me for a password!21:08
apacheloggerdantti_work: ^21:08
apacheloggerform random blog21:08
ScottKSo the error message is correct.  The user didn't provide a password ...21:10
apacheloggerwell, I am more hinting towards the beign cut off part ;)21:11
apacheloggerthat dude had all sorts of crazy problems on a fresh install, so I figure he is one of the people who like to think that they know what they are doing21:11
apacheloggernot unlike apachelogger21:11
apacheloggerapachelogger: oi!21:11
danttiRiddell: around?21:21
danttiapachelogger: do you know which version? it sounds more like policykit-kde failing21:22
apachelogger10.10 supposedly21:23
apacheloggershould be easy to check .... new user without no sudo access, that should lead to an error like that21:23
ulyssesapachelogger: only the licensing issue remains, after a shower I'll fix it21:23
apacheloggerdantti_work: did you push your gstreamer changes already?21:23
apacheloggerulysses: most awesome21:24
danttiapachelogger: pushed to pk git21:24
apacheloggerdantti_work: last change I see si the release of 061021:25
apacheloggerdantti even21:26
* apachelogger is wondering if dantti got a clone ^^21:26
danttino21:26
danttinope21:26
danttiapachelogger: http://gitorious.org/packagekit/packagekit/commit/16170df05a733e665896128d1f7fc520a60b2e4521:27
danttiapachelogger: are you cloning gitorious?21:27
apacheloggerno21:27
apacheloggerfdo21:27
apachelogger:O21:27
danttithat should be down :P21:28
apacheloggeris not21:28
apacheloggerhttp://packagekit.org/pk-download.html21:28
apacheloggerone should update that I suppose21:28
apacheloggermarkey: not coming to dornbirn btw21:29
apacheloggergot super important exam on monday :/21:29
apacheloggerstupid maths always gets in the way of going somewhere -.-21:29
danttiright I'll heads up Richard21:30
* apachelogger fires up autohell21:33
apacheloggerdantti: "gstreamer|0.10|amarok|ID3 tag|decoder-application/x-id3" 21:40
apacheloggerstill doesnt work here btw21:40
apacheloggerit however fails in a different way 21:40
danttithat's not a valid string for PK21:41
apacheloggerwell21:41
apacheloggerno21:41
apacheloggerwell21:41
apacheloggeryes21:41
apachelogger:P21:41
apacheloggerit is for pk, pk mangles it and something else arrives in the backend ;)21:41
danttiapachelogger: afaik no, since all my tests today came exactly as i wrote it21:42
danttigstreamer0.10(decoder-audio/x-wma)(wmaversion=3)21:43
apachelogger./contrib/gstreamer-plugin21:43
danttioh21:43
apacheloggergstreamer calls a helper and that helper calls out to packagekit21:43
danttik, so you are not actually using the session installer21:43
danttiok21:43
danttilet me see that21:43
apacheloggerdantti: just install phonon-backend-gstreamer and make sure that helper thingy is installed21:44
danttik21:44
apacheloggerwhenver you try to play an unsupported file a window should come up21:44
ulyssesapachelogger: answer from Tuomo http://paste.ubuntu.com/536062/21:46
danttiapachelogger: I don't think I have any21:47
apacheloggerdantti: taglib contains wma test files21:47
apacheloggeralso the intartubes is filled up with that stuff :D21:48
CIA-42[libqapt] jmthomas * 1200385 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/includes/CMakeLists.txt Actually install the pretty header21:49
danttiapachelogger: btw did you --enable-gstreamer-plugin21:49
apacheloggerulysses: every distribtion can carry patches against qtsoap, so the show stopper is only one if he sees people who compile stuff from source as his primary audience, which is probably not the case21:50
apacheloggerhaving a statically linked qtsoap inside is not an option since it violates gpl (need to distribute source if you distribute binary)21:51
apacheloggerwhat would be an option is to statically link qtsoap into his own library, so it does not appear as shared library (i.e. the so file)21:52
apacheloggerdantti: oh21:52
apacheloggerno21:52
apacheloggerof course latter is not as good as having soap not in the source alltogether21:52
danttiapachelogger: gstreamer0.10(decoder-application/x-id3)()(64bit) why that () do you have an idea?21:59
apacheloggernope22:00
apacheloggercould be coming from the plugin22:00
apacheloggerthe gstreamer markup as seen above is very strict and always constains the exact amount of fields22:01
apacheloggereven if empty22:01
dantti(packagekitd:5136): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_caps_can_intersect: assertion `GST_IS_CAPS (caps1)' failed22:01
danttiI also get that22:01
apacheloggerso, you probably try to create a bogus caps ^^22:01
danttiapachelogger: gstreamer gives you that string?22:02
apacheloggerno, phonon-gstreamer builds it, sends it to gstreamer and gstreamer launches gstreamer-codec-install with the string as argument22:02
danttiso there might be something missing I guess, since afaik toten uses it and it comes the way I told you22:03
danttihow do I get the samples you told me?22:03
apacheloggerdoesnt work even with --enable-gstreamer-plugin :(22:03
danttiapt-get source somethi?22:03
apacheloggerdantti: apt-get source phonon22:04
danttiapachelogger: btw be sure to be running the right packagekitd22:04
apacheloggerin phonon-*/gstreamer/mediaobject.cpp22:05
danttiapachelogger: I can't find it22:05
apacheloggerthere is something like QString plugins = QString("gstreamer22:05
danttibut a cpp?22:05
apacheloggerjust stream that to a qdebug22:06
apacheloggerdantti: huh?22:06
danttiI thought there were samples of audio files22:06
apacheloggeraj22:06
apacheloggerah22:06
apacheloggerlolz, I thought you meant the codec line ^^22:06
apacheloggerdantti: apt-get source taglib22:07
apacheloggerPackageKit-ERROR **: config file not found22:07
apacheloggerhooray22:07
apacheloggerwhy the heck is it looking in /usr/local/etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf -.-22:08
markeywho pinged me? :)22:09
danttiapachelogger: ./autogen.sh --enable-gtk-doc --disable-gtk-doc --prefix=/home/daniel/code/os/pkbin/ --enable-aptcc --with-default-backend=aptcc --enable-gstreamer-plugin22:09
danttiapachelogger: autohell line that might help :P22:09
danttithose first enable disable are stupid:P22:10
apacheloggerto hell with autohell!22:10
apacheloggerdantti: cant you sneak in cmake? :P22:10
* apachelogger distcleans and tries again22:10
danttiapachelogger: actually I have an almost compiling cmake for that22:11
danttibut no time to finish22:11
apacheloggeryou have way too many projects going on22:11
danttiyes that's the problem22:11
danttiI can't focus22:11
apacheloggershadeslayer: you could take over some of dantti's projects once you found new minions22:12
danttiwhen I think I'll have time for printing..22:12
apacheloggeror at least help him22:12
apacheloggeraha!22:12
apacheloggerdantti: thanks, now packagekitd at least starts :D22:12
danttihehe22:13
apachelogger(packagekitd:7065): GStreamer-CRITICAL **: gst_caps_can_intersect: assertion `GST_IS_CAPS (caps1)' failed22:13
danttibtw does that gstreamer code works on fedora? 22:13
apacheloggeryep22:13
apacheloggerrdieter tested it yesterday22:13
danttiwell it might be a different string but..22:14
danttilet me start vb22:14
danttiapachelogger: yes fedora can't find that plugin too22:21
danttiso as there more tests have been make I believe it might be phonon-gs22:22
apachelogger        GstStructure *str = gst_caps_get_structure (caps, 0);22:22
apachelogger        value = QString::fromUtf8(gst_structure_get_name (str));22:22
apachelogger    QString plugins = QString("gstreamer|0.10|%0|%1|decoder-%2")22:22
apachelogger        .arg( qApp->applicationName() )22:22
apachelogger        .arg( value )22:22
apachelogger        .arg( QString::fromUtf8(gst_caps_to_string (caps) ) );22:22
apacheloggervery unlikely22:23
apacheloggerI can poke that tomorrow a bit22:23
* apachelogger needs to go to be soonish as he has a meeting tomorrw at 822:23
danttik, cya22:24
danttiapachelogger: I believe it's the gst-pk-plugins which is broken, I changed the string after failing with toten and it "works" not22:35
danttinow22:35
ulyssesapachelogger: I uploaded hupnp with the fixes22:48
Riddelldantti: hi22:56
Riddellapachelogger: phonon?  where?22:56
danttiRiddell: hey22:56
danttiRiddell: he is gone I think22:56
danttiapachelogger: all fixed improved my regex and make sure GstCaps aren't null, pull when you get back :)23:09
* ScottK wonders about licensing so bad it needs a shower?23:36
Riddellof what?23:40
ScottKDunno23:48
ScottK[16:23:48] <ulysses> apachelogger: only the licensing issue remains, after a shower I'll fix it23:48
ScottKtime is -050023:48

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