[00:04] [ubuntu] Jonathan Thomas * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20101124000353-tkhtzdcpvmztrdwv * debian/ (30 files) * New upstream beta release: - Update various .install files - Bump build-depend versions on kdelibs5-dev to >= 4:4.5.80 - Add xsltproc to build-depends [00:07] lol gstreamer conflicts with apt :P [00:12] dantti: huh? [00:13] Riddell: there is a define in both libs [00:13] so I have to separete it myself === muesli_ is now known as muesli [04:03] * ScottK notes GCC on arm takes a long time (the ice cream seems to have given up after a while) [04:03] We're on test suite now anyway. === hrw|gone is now known as hrw [08:38] dantti: ghostscript libs? :P [08:39] dantti: what do you mean by finding? [08:39] for linking? [08:39] surely there ought to be example code for that since everyone outside Kland still uses autohell [08:42] hm [08:42] upgrading to 4.5.3 seems to wanna remove workspace :O [08:46] Investigating (0) plasma-dataengines-workspace [ i386 ] < 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu8 -> 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 > ( kde ) [08:46] Broken plasma-dataengines-workspace:i386 Depends on libweather-ion5 [ i386 ] < none -> 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 > ( libs ) (= 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1) [08:46] Considering libweather-ion5:i386 2 as a solution to plasma-dataengines-workspace:i386 4 [08:46] Removing plasma-dataengines-workspace:i386 rather than change libweather-ion5:i386 [08:58] in and out and in and out [08:58] * apachelogger pokes fldc [09:01] The following packages will be REMOVED: [09:01] libweather-ion4a [09:01] The following NEW packages will be installed: [09:01] libweather-ion5 [09:01] what the fudge? [09:01] Riddell: pingy [09:02] Version: 4:4.5.3-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 [09:02] Replaces: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5, libweather-ion4, libweather-ion4-api, libweather-ion4a [09:03] that relatin with 4a is nothing but pointless since the package only contains library content and thus there is no real relation of any sort [09:09] apachelogger: damn mobile broadband :D [09:10] fldc: get yourself a quassel core :P [09:11] apachelogger: I should, yes :D [09:14] aha! [09:14] oh no :( [09:15] * apachelogger is wondering why aptitude suggests to remove the old lib before trying to remove a whole bunch of packages, whereas apt-get tries to preservethe lib [09:15] latter is even stranger in light of apparently each package depending on it being upgraded [09:22] oh [09:23] Package: libweather-ion5 [09:23] Provides: libweather-ion4-api [09:23] Replaces: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5, libweather-ion4, libweather-ion4-api [09:23] Conflicts: kdebase-workspace-libs4+5, libweather-ion4, libweather-ion4-api [09:23] is it just me [09:23] or is that completely bogus [09:24] first of all ion5 provides ion4? [09:24] and then it conflicts itself? [09:24] since it provides ion4 but conflicts and replaces ion4? [09:24] libweather has been a problem, for sure [09:27] hm [09:27] * apachelogger wonders [09:27] then again, provides&replaces&conflicts has transitional merit [09:28] * apachelogger consults the policy manual [09:28] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s7.6.2 [09:28] true true [09:28] so that makes sense after all [09:28] ... [09:28] if it were providing ion4 :P [09:34] * apachelogger doubts that dropping the relation with 4a will resolve the issue, since that removal relation with ion4-api might get in the way of things [09:38] Riddell: ping [09:48] ulysses: time for team report? [09:48] oops [09:59] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/TeamReports [10:00] is it me or is the wiki dead slow? [10:01] slower than a dead horse [10:24] ulysses: hi [10:25] Riddell: I changed the debian/control and debian/copyright http://paste.ubuntu.com/535820/ [10:26] Riddell: if the copyright correct, only the splitting remains [10:27] ulysses: I'd do it more explicitly than that, copy and paste lines 21 to 40 then "The source code in apps/" and remove "Lesser" [10:28] good point [10:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/535836/ [10:35] ulysses: remove Lesser in line 48 [10:36] also line 51, and copy and paste lines 51/52 at line 35 [10:38] done [10:41] groovy [10:56] Riddell: How do I the split of hupnp? [11:02] ulysses: create several package descriptions in debian/control [11:03] then make .install files in debian/ which list the files that should go in each package [11:09] JontheEchidna: can kubuntu_91_phonon_forget_option.diff go upstream? [11:09] apachelogger: ^^ [11:11] Riddell: where is that? [11:12] apachelogger: kdebase-runtime [11:12] apachelogger: also any idea where this mysterious phonon 4.4.3 can be found? kdebase-runtime needs that [11:12] Riddell: not released yet [11:12] that's unhelpful [11:13] Riddell: you can patch to 4.4.2 really [11:13] there is absolutely no reason to require 4.4.3 from a libphonon POV [11:14] so can we just change that in kde svn? [11:15] yeah [11:16] Riddell: something like for libhupnp-dev? debian/tmp/usr/include/HUpnpCore/ [11:16] Riddell: better try it first though, maybe someone introduced usage of API that is not even technically targetted for 4.4.3 [11:16] ulysses: yes although you can miss out the "debian/tmp/" [11:16] there seems to be a bit of a confusion of phonon master and the 4.4 branch [11:17] ulysses: you also want the foo.so files [11:17] (that said I am probably going to release from anyway) [11:17] ulysses: in the -dev [11:18] Riddell: patch looks upstreamable at first glance [11:18] apachelogger: groovy, can you propose it in the right place then commit it if it's all good? [11:19] yeah [11:20] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535854/ [11:21] oops, I'll be late from the lesson [11:22] brb in two hours [11:22] ulysses: bye [11:22] bye Riddell [11:23] ulysses: libhupnp0.install wants usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.* [11:39] ../../../phonon/kded-module/phononserver.cpp:66:5: error: 'registerMetaTypes' is not a member of 'Phonon' [11:39] apachelogger: guess I need this elusive phonon 4.4.3 [11:50] http://aplg.kollide.net/tmp/phonon/compat_reports/libphonon/4.4.2_to_4.4.3/abi_compat_report.html [11:50] yeah [11:50] that is a new interface [11:51] then again said interface is not part of the 4.4 branch, so technically would not be part of it [11:56] apachelogger: so 4.4.3 isn't good enough? [11:58] it will be [11:58] unless someone objects within the next couple of hours I will release git master as 4.4.3 [11:58] because the actual 4.4 branch is not of much use and master actually contains plenty of good things [11:59] shouldn't that be 4.5 then? [12:00] there isnt really anything that would indicate bumping to 4.5 [12:00] mostly just fixes and a bit of movement in phononexperimental [12:02] oh, actually git master's cmake file says 4.4.3 -.- [12:02] this is a mess!!! [12:04] doesn't that match your release plans exactly? [12:25] well, yes, just saying :P [12:40] maco: owncloud 1.1 released if you're looking at the feasability of packaging it [12:41] That would be nice. [12:45] phonon phonon phonon === apachelogger is now known as releaselogger [12:51] * nigelb releases apachelogger v.10.10 nicknamed releaselogger. [12:51] YAY [12:51] heh [12:51] * nigelb hugs releaselogger [12:51] * releaselogger rehugs nigelb [12:52] haha [12:52] my rekonq is boken [12:59] releaselogger: no suprise... [13:00] * nigelb waves to jussi [13:50] * ulysses back [13:54] hi ulysses [13:54] hello Riddell [13:55] I added /usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.* to libhupnp0.install [13:56] ulysses: that's all it needs [13:56] nothing else [13:56] and no / at the start either [14:00] Riddell: I created a source package, now I test the build in pbuilder [14:02] ulysses: can you pastebin all the .install files and control ? [14:04] control: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535892/ .install files: http://paste.ubuntu.com/535893/ [14:25] ulysses: you need libhupnp-dev in debian/control [14:25] ulysses: libhupnp0.install only needs the last line, the rest can go [14:27] Riddell: do you mean libhupnp0-dev? [14:28] ulysses: best to call it libhupnp-dev [14:28] you only need the soname number in the -dev if there's multiple versions of the library in the archive [14:29] libhupnp-dev is there [14:35] dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libQtSolutions_SOAP-2.7.so.1 needed by debian/libhupnp0/usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.7.1 (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: ''). [14:40] ulysses: libqtsolutions-soap-2.7-1.install wants to have "usr/lib/libQtSolutions_SOAP-2.7.so.1.0.0" and "usr/lib/libQtSolutions_SOAP-2.7.so.1" in it === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:46] Riddell: success! [14:49] ulysses: awooga [14:55] oh jings, the new qtwebkit breaks compiles [15:03] Riddell: ok [15:06] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200290 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/ (backend.h config.h package.h) Add @since to the apidox of new methods in 1.1 [15:06] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200291 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/backend.h One more @since [15:09] [libqapt] jmthomas * 1200292 * trunk/extragear/sysadmin/libqapt/src/config.h Correct the location of this @since [15:27] Riddell: what's next? dput again to revu? [15:28] ulysses: yes [15:35] Riddell: Did you look at the kdegraphics failure yet? I may have a fix and will look into if you haven't taken care of it yet. [15:37] Riddell: uploaded [15:44] * ScottK fixes kdegraphics. [16:05] thanks ScottK [16:05] ulysses: comments added to revu [16:06] Riddell: No problem. It was an easy one. Uploaded. [16:06] (so easy that I managed to upload it once to ninjas without the actual fix) [16:22] Riddell: fixed, uploaded again [16:29] BTW, soyuz is very backlogged at the moment, so don't be suprised if it takes a while for uploads to appear/get accepted. [16:32] is it possible to hack in plasma with project neon? [16:32] ulysses: still some bits missing [16:32] dantti_work: you can hack in whatever you like [16:33] it's just a trunk build, so depends if trunk is what you want [16:33] Riddell: but does the packages comes with sources too? and is it working btw? i heard about it being broken these days [16:34] dantti_work: you can download the package sources of course but generally you want to code on an svn checkout [16:35] it'll install into /opt so it's safe to install, of course trunk can break so it may not run [16:35] Riddell: so I'd install neo, and the svn co kickoff and it will compile against neon libs? [16:36] Riddell: will the packages i put in backports, remain there forever? [16:36] like ... till next LTS atleast [16:36] if you -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/opt/neon then yes [16:36] libweather-ion is still screwing up my upgarde [16:37] Riddell: k, thanks, i'll install then and see what happens :P [16:37] stupid thing [16:37] shadeslayer: packages in kubuntu-ppa/backports get deleted when we delete them, in lucid-backports or whatever they stay there indefinately [16:37] releaselogger: KDE 4.6 ? [16:37] ScottK: ping [16:37] shadeslayer: no 4.5.3 [16:37] Quintasan: Pong (yes, I haven't forgotten) [16:37] releaselogger: for lucid? [16:37] Great. [16:37] for maverick [16:37] ah [16:38] i think i might have found 2 minions @ college today [16:38] Riddell: hm, I renamed libqtsolutions-soap-2.7-0 to -2.7-1 [16:38] Riddell: could we not remove the 4.5.3 packages from backports till next LTS? [16:40] uh [16:40] eh [16:40] Riddell: can't install deps problems [16:40] why do i have a 700 MB upgrade [16:40] does it requires natty too? [16:40] and that too for 4.5.3 KDE [16:40] dantti_work: neon is for lucid and maverick currently [16:41] dantti_work: which ppa do you use? [16:41] dantti_work: plus we do not have kdebindings since trunk is broken ATM [16:41] yofel: oh, the techbase package had jaunty on the sources.list [16:42] yofel: which packages exactly does my sip upload breaks? [16:42] dantti_work: thebase page is outdated, we'll need to update that sometime [16:42] dantti_work: our ppa is https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa/ [16:42] Quintasan: well as kickoff does not use bindings I think I'm ok right? [16:42] I think yes [16:42] dantti_work: which component is kickoff in? [16:43] Quintasan: not sure, I at least got a ABI mismatch error when I tried apport-kde [16:43] kdebase-workspace I believe [16:43] so apport is broken, hmmm [16:43] yofel: plasma [16:43] something broke in KPK [16:43] i cant edit origins [16:43] * shadeslayer looks at dantti_work [16:43] yofel: 8.0 is not backwards compatible then? [16:43] shadeslayer: hmm :P [16:44] shadeslayer: does the software properties open? [16:44] dantti_work: i disabled a PPA -> Clicked on edit origins -> kaboom [16:44] Quintasan: doesn't seem so, I'll try it later on my other pc again, I'm on natty currently [16:44] i get the bouncy icon [16:44] shadeslayer: does it crash? [16:44] no [16:44] here it works fine [16:44] it just sits there [16:44] it worked before [16:45] just isnt working now [16:45] is software-properties installed? [16:46] software-properties-kde is installed [16:46] dantti_work: http://pastebin.ca/2001075 [16:46] * Quintasan needs to upgrade his maverick kvm [16:46] konsole output [16:47] Quintasan: tell me about it... i have 700 MB's of updates [16:48] shadeslayer: kdesudo software-properties-kde [16:48] does that work? [16:48] oh boi [16:48] http://pastebin.ca/2001078 [16:48] something broke [16:49] who broke SIP [16:49] yofel: yes, the techbase page is really old :P even the package names are different :P [16:49] dantti_work: right, that was the old neon ppa which someone should get rid of, we're starting fresh with new packages === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [16:53] shadeslayer: I did :P [16:53] Quintasan: Stop breaking stuff! [16:53] and go fix it [16:54] It is broken since like, well, three weeks ago? [16:54] shadeslayer: remove the PPA version and it should work [16:55] oh.. i just found out :P [16:56] i dont usually use kpk... but just thought i should have a poke around to make sure nothing was broken :P [16:56] >implying we were not talking about the breakage at least three times [16:56] :P [16:57] ok, kdebase-neon installed how do I run it? can I use the same account in Xephyr? [16:58] dantti_work: you'd rather not, the options somehow are still saved to your ~/.kde folder [16:58] I think we are working on it [16:58] ok [16:59] we are, most are stored in ~/.project-neon-kde, but *something* doesn't seem to respect that [17:01] ok, working wonderfully :D [17:01] it works? [17:01] omfg [17:01] * Quintasan hugs shadeslayer and yofel [17:01] wheee [17:01] * shadeslayer hugs his Desire [17:01] :P [17:01] well, if you install project-neon-common you can even login from KDM, which works, with errors though last time I tried it [17:02] beer for us at UDS [17:02] Quintasan: :P next time I go .. === hrw is now known as hrw|gone [17:03] now I need to add apacheloggers request to aptcc and then add my precious feature to kickoff [17:03] * dantti_work just hopes it's not too late for 4.6 [17:04] dantti_work: we are already packaging the beta for 4.6 [17:05] bulldog98: yes, I know, time is hard... but.. maybe :P [17:15] Quintasan: till LP guys fix bug 676657, we cant build qtwebkit :( [17:15] Launchpad bug 676657 in Launchpad Bazaar Integration "recipe builds can use too much memory" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676657 [17:15] s/fix/release [17:16] hmm [17:16] Riddell: seems kdegraphics wants XFixes [17:17] !find Xfixes.h [17:17] File Xfixes.h found in libxfixes-dev [17:18] !find Xfixes.h natty [17:18] shadeslayer: yes we can keep packages in kubuntu-ppa/backports as long as we want [17:18] kewl :) [17:19] shadeslayer: which kdegraphics are you looking at? [17:19] Riddell: the 4.6 one for natty [17:19] i just got mailed that it failed to build [17:19] needs libxfixes-dev from the look of it [17:19] Quintasan: how many releases did we want to support again? Currently natty is out of question unless we drop lucid or get more space (ok, the recipes don't work for natty yet, but we should think about it..) [17:20] shadeslayer: ok, blame ScottK he did the last upload :) [17:20] yofel: imo we go with Maverick and Lucid .... natty already gets 4.6 [17:20] ppa3 already fixes that [17:20] so thats out of question till ... id say last natty alpha [17:21] k, postponed then [17:21] * ScottK made the changelog entry, got distracted, and then came back to ppa2 and uploaded without making the actual change in debian/control. [17:23] okies [17:24] i was just going through humoungus amount of mail [17:24] saw that... [17:30] shadeslayer: going to add the 4.5.3 on lucid announce to kubuntu.org ? [17:30] Riddell: yeah ill do that ... once i finish deciding whether or not im going to osscamp.in [17:32] yofel, shadeslayer: move out to #project-neon [17:32] kk [17:38] would someone add my new ssh key to ktown, I lost my old one [17:38] https://launchpad.net/~neversfelde/+sshkeys [17:48] JontheEchidna: Looks like we are consistently seeing differnent symbols on amd64 (see the kdegraphics amd64 FTBFS) [17:51] neversfelde: hang on [17:51] neversfelde: done [17:51] Riddell: thank you [17:53] neversfelde: going to do some ninja'ing? [17:54] Riddell: I guess I'll start with kdenetwork [17:55] neversfelde: careful there's an issue there that's been discussed on kde-packagers, it needs something fixed around libktorrent [17:55] Riddell: yes, I know [17:55] an will have a look [17:56] hi jasoncwarner1 [17:56] Riddell: Hi! [17:56] everyone say hi to jasoncwarner1, he's the new manager of Canonical's desktop team [17:56] hi jasoncwarner1 [17:56] hi jasoncwarner1 [17:57] Good morning everyone! [17:57] 3 minutes till noon here :) [17:57] 19 pm here [17:57] 4:30am here ;) [17:57] a bit different timezone:P [17:58] hi jasoncwarner1 [17:58] hi shadeslayer [17:58] hi sheytan rather [17:58] :P [17:59] DarkwingDuck: in the next couple of weeks, prior to x-mas, i want to get together for docs. i need to fix some things and change some things...now i can run out and do what i need to do for the day, and of course it has to do with...wait for it...wait for it....cycling & microsoft [18:01] Riddell: should i put in the fact that these packages were paid for by a company? [18:01] Hi Riddell [18:01] and how do i word that :P [18:01] Riddell did you see the page we made? :) [18:02] shadeslayer: yes we normally put a thanks at the end so a thanks to foo for funding them should be fine [18:02] sheytan: nope [18:02] shadeslayer do you have that link i gave you to show Riddell? [18:02] mine is lost ;/ [18:03] uh.. hold on :P [18:03] ok [18:03] http://ryrych.pl/null/kubuntu/index.html [18:04] there ya go [18:04] Riddell ^^ [18:04] thanks shadeslayer :) [18:04] * sheytan is gone for dinner. brb [18:05] ooh pretty [18:06] Riddell: so for proof reading, i publish the page, but dont push it to Main site? [18:08] shadeslayer: for proofreading just save it [18:08] hmm [18:08] without ticking the publish box [18:08] * bulldog98 is learning vim [18:09] bulldog98: bah, nasty habit, emacs rules [18:09] Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-release-day-453-lucid ... hehe :P [18:09] Access Denied :P [18:09] same link on admin site works :) [18:09] Riddell: I need to learn that to, so I can use every editor in the world ^^ (Muhaha) [18:10] shadeslayer: I'd replace lucid with 10.10 in the headline [18:10] otherwise looks good [18:10] ojk [18:10] ok [18:10] do you mean 10.04?:P [18:10] 10.04 you mean [18:11] Riddell: news/kde-release-day-453-1004 [18:13] shadeslayer: lovely [18:13] tick that publish box [18:14] done :) [18:14] Riddell: any idea to fix the shlib error? [18:15] ulysses: which is that? [18:15] E: libhupnp0: ldconfig-symlink-missing-for-shlib usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0 usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.7.1 libHUpnp.so.0 [18:15] ulysses: put usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0 into libhupnp0.install [18:22] Riddell: doesn't help [18:23] shadeslayer: Are you going to be keeping these packages up to date for security fixes? [18:23] ulysses: you have /usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0 in libhupnp0 ? [18:23] ScottK: ill keep a eye out for such stuff... i am subscribed to kde-packager [18:24] Riddell: just usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0 and usr/lib/libHUpnp.so.0.* [18:24] shadeslayer: oh it should probably have the warning about being unable to upgrade to maverick [18:24] shadeslayer: How about ubuntu-security-notifications? [18:24] ulysses: both [18:24] oh yes [18:24] ScottK: didnt know about that one [18:24] ill subscribe to it [18:24] shadeslayer: Good plan. [18:24] is it the ubuntu-security-announce ML ? [18:26] Riddell: Warning: Adding this PPA will cause problems while upgrading to Maverick, since Maverick has KDE 4.5.1 in the official repositories [18:26] look ok? [18:27] or should i just lose the last part [18:29] Riddell do you want the files? [18:32] shadeslayer: "Warning: Adding this PPA will make the computer unable to upgrade to 10.10 which has an older version of KDE Platform" [18:32] sheytan: what files? [18:32] Riddell the daily builds page [18:33] sheytan: what files are there? [18:33] Riddell the code? html+css [18:34] well I can get that from the link above [18:34] Riddell as you wish :) [18:35] the fiddly part is working out how it needs to be split up and integrated with the cd build scripts [18:40] Well, i have no idea about that :D [18:40] Riddell: no progress [18:44] ulysses: put what you have onto revu [18:45] Riddell: aptcc has now gstreamer search codec support :) as apachelogger asked :P [18:45] dantti_work: cor, what uses that? [18:46] Riddell: well afaik toten and phonon-gstreamer will [18:47] nice [18:48] funny python apt backend has code for it too but it says it's not supported :( I can measure time now :P [18:49] Why aren't there any updates in natty nowadays? [18:49] Riddell: uploaded [18:50] hunger: from our side 4.6 beta hasn't been released yet so it's all secret for now [18:50] also launchpad may be clogged up I heard [18:51] Riddell: I have not seen a single package update in natty since last sunday or so... Am I doing something wrong? [18:51] It has never been so quiet before... [18:51] could have been the extras issue, try again [18:52] yofel: Still nothing:-/ [18:52] hm, any error when you run apt-get update in konsole? [18:52] yofel: Just did a update in aptitude... still nothing:-/ No new packages, no updates. [18:53] Maybe my mirror is out of sync or something. [18:53] could be, there was bug 678196, but mvo says it's fixed [18:53] Hmm... mirror is archive.ubuntu.com... that should not be out of sync:-) [18:53] Launchpad bug 678196 in apt (Ubuntu Natty) "Ubuntu extras repository prevents other updates" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678196 === releaselogger is now known as apachelogger [18:55] I don't have the extra repo enabled, so it must be something different. [18:55] you don't have any packages installed that were updated maybe? There weren't *that* many updates in the last few days [18:56] I have a ton of updates today though [18:56] and let's move to #ubuntu+1 [18:56] yofel: Possible... but I never had that long a silence before:-) [18:58] brrrr [18:59] has anyone bridged a wireless and wired connection before? [18:59]