[00:21] I just totally bricked my sound [00:22] I was having issues with microphone input in Skype so i figured i would remove this piece of crap pulse audio >.> [00:22] so I installed ossv4 [00:22] and well kmix and xine backend could not detected it okay... [00:22] so crew it i purged and removed it [00:23] i setup the linux sound system to use ALSA instead [00:23] and figured I would use plain ALSa with dmix [00:23] however this fail, and I got dummy controllers in kmix and nothing work [00:23] so I figured I just revert back to pulse since at least pulse allowed me to liste to music [00:24] so I put back in pulse, reconfiured my sound to use ALSA as input, reinstalled gstreamer setup all that stuff, removed the pulse blacklist stuff from my modprobe and reboot [00:24] kmix popped up at login [00:25] and all it can find is Dummy devices [00:25] no /dev/snd <-- nothing [00:25] lsmod | grep Audio found nothing [00:25] aplay -l shows no sound cards [00:25] and speaker-test does not work [00:25] worse of all /dev/dsp does not exist either [00:26] alsa prob isn't running [00:27] moetunes: could it be something in my modprod ? [00:27] * graph_irssi never did a backup [00:28] no idea [00:28] lsmod | grep snd might tell [00:28] nothing [00:29] a reboot might be easiest [00:29] also, pauvucontrol might help [00:29] you should only have to use it once [00:29] I've rebooted 10,000 times now [00:30] PA seems to get a bit confused sometimes [00:30] pauvucontrol shows nothing I have it installed [00:30] poor thing [00:30] ! [00:30] root@graphitemaster:~# lsof | grep pcm [00:30] kded4 1808 root mem REG 8,1 17964 7348018 /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so [00:30] how about alsamixer in console? [00:30] M = muted [00:31] Hi everyone. New Kubuntu User Here... [00:31] valorie: [00:31] root@graphitemaster:~# alsamixer [00:31] cannot open mixer: No such file or directory [00:32] graph_irssi: try kmix [00:33] okay so === [-Haza-] is now known as Hazamonzo [00:33] root@graphitemaster:~# alsa-utils restart * Shutting down ALSA... [ OK ] * Setting up ALSA... [ OK ] [00:33] root@graphitemaster:~# pulseaudio -k [00:33] E: main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process [00:33] root@graphitemaster:~# pulseaudio [00:33] W: main.c: This program is not [00:33] graph_irssi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:33] well that did not work well.. [00:34] graph_irssi: perhaps #kde [00:35] http://paste.ubuntu.com/535718/ [00:35] it's not kde's fault [00:35] it's kubuntu's fault and it's useless pulseaudio junk >.> [00:36] the dumbest idea since day one was to ship ubuntu with pulse [00:36] there should be an option to opt out. [00:36] pulseaudio + alsa have been giving me problems sice the day ubuntu introduced it. [00:37] i have the opposite experience [00:37] I usually have had problems until I installed PA [00:38] even back in my Mandrake days, sometimes I used PA [00:41] well, needless to say do you have any idea what could be possibly wrong? === ubuntu is now known as Rpacifist [00:58] graph_irssi: sadly, no === graph_irssi is now known as graphitemaster === muesli_ is now known as muesli [02:34] Morning all, have a question if someone has a minute. I'm running 10.10 64 bit, and trying to use TrueCrypt(http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads). However after installing TrueCrypt, it crashes immediately after starting its GUI. Wondering if someone else can try it and see if it is only me. [02:40] squash_: ha,... 10.10 is unstable and not ready in my opinion for distribution,... LTS is a Long Term Service for a reason,... stability, security, and compatibility. [02:41] squash_: perhaps truecrypt isn't at this time compatible with 10.10 [02:42] squash_: another option you might want to consider is downloading the source if it's available and compile truecrypt yourself... if it doesn't work then,... you're out of luck [02:43] not much i can say,... but i think there are alternatives to truecrypt,... not as integrated and seamless,.. but nonetheless available as an option. [02:44] i'd have to think about what exactly what they are,.. but i'm sure with a little searching,... you would find them. [02:45] squash_: also,... you might try encrypting your harddrive as an alternative,... i know there is no 'hidden' partitions,... but it'll secure your data. [02:45] squash_: that's all i got. [02:45] :) [02:46] !truecrypt [02:46] Truecrypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume [03:04] where did tab go under styles for changing workplace theme ? [03:05] whacked, can you explain your question? [03:06] collabra: I compiled the source myself to the same result [03:06] collabra: really I'm hoping that someone will actually download it and try to run it and see if it exhibits the same behavior [03:08] ok system setting/application appearance , then on left there is 5 icons style/colors/icons/fonts/GTK appearance etc, anyway under style there use to be a tab to change workspace theme [03:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMkn-TEj_10 ths video explain what i am attempting to find [03:10] the long bar at bottom where you have application launcher [03:11] ok [03:26] why why why pulse crap audio [03:26] squash_: hmmm,... sorry to hear that,... 10.10 must be just too different to be compatible,... i'd keep returning to the website every now and then to see if they've updated for 10.10 [03:27] my m-audio card hates pulse audio [03:27] where did workspace themes go ? [03:28] first time with kubuntu [03:28] going back to opensuse [03:29] whacked: just a sec, there, whacked... [03:29] since it is impossible to remove puls audio with destrying system [03:29] oh [03:29] ok i can wait [03:30] tghis will be 4 install of an OS today\ [03:30] whacked: before you spit on the distro... try LTS 10.04,... it's audio is alsa [03:30] whacked: and, yeah,... i hate pulse,... [03:30] but i ma correct it practcally immpossible to disable pulse audio right === Guest85340 is now known as RaNdY [03:31] whacked: i dunno,... I had more problems with 10.10 than just audio.... [03:31] oh === RaNdY is now known as Guest61452 === Guest61452 is now known as Guest85340 [03:32] opensuse wasawesome but the made changes recently to update process the keep destroying QT on me [03:32] so i use 10.04 LTS until squeeze goes stable.... then i'm switchin for the life of the distro. [03:32] but you cannot disable pulse audio [03:32] so for that reason i am not going to convert [03:32] pulse audio isn't default in 10.04 LTS,... alsa is. [03:33] yes [03:33] but you mentioned squeeze go stable [03:33] right [03:34] besides,.. 10.10 isn't stable or friendly in alot of ways,... It just wasn't ready for publishing.... I'm afraid. [03:34] it can be stable as a rock but if pulse audio still going to part of it [03:34] then i cant do it [03:35] if you try removing pulse it want to take whole gui with t [03:35] whacked: like i've said... more than the sound system is at fault with 10.10,.. from my experience... [03:35] ok back to open suse [03:35] whacked: I do not know why kde is going to pulse,... [03:36] whacked: pulse isn't ready,... it's a framework for potential,.. that's it. [03:37] that is NOT my experience [03:37] PA is usually useful [03:37] and 10.10 has been very stable [03:37] whacked: which is why i mourn ubuntu with this latest release,... i'll never get excited about any other releases other than a long term supported release. [03:38] valorie: your experience is irrelevant to me and makes little difference,... piss on 10.10 [03:38] collabra: this channel is for help [03:38] you aren't being helpful [03:38] !language [03:38] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [03:38] go to offtopic if you want to complain [03:39] valorie: helpful,... help whacked,... you cant ,... 10.10 isn't ready,.. wasn't ready,... and will never touch my harddrive ever again. [03:39] .... [03:39] hi valorie [03:39] sure we were talking ealier tonight [03:39] about amarok [03:39] indeed [03:39] valorie: just the facts as i've experience them valorie... [03:40] well like i thought m-audio cards hate pulse audio\ [03:40] then let's stick to facts [03:40] valorie: don't take it so hard,.. distros need to be scrutinized and laid bare for what they are,... [03:40] valorie: don't take it personally [03:40] whacked: that is why I recommended 10.04 rather than 10.10 [03:40] and honestly it difficult for me , to figure out how to suspend service [03:41] valorie: as do i [03:41] if you can't use PA, then 10.10 isn't for your system [03:41] valorie: PA....? [03:41] pulseaudio [03:41] oh,.. pules. [03:41] yeah... [03:42] where i am going to be in future [03:44] whacked: pulse isn't complete yet.. it will be,.. just not in this release [03:45] which sound systems was a choice [03:45] whacked: scuse' ,.. ? [03:45] like in windows you install correct driver and go [03:45] whacked: compatible with pulse,.. you mean? [03:46] maybe [03:46] god i am so confused [03:46] whacked: :) [03:47] confused why opensuse is failing me\ [03:47] whacked: do you mean what audio hardware is compatible with pulse audio,.. or,... ? [03:47] they must have made changes to update process [03:47] to opensuse...? [03:47] i'm confused too. [03:47] :) [03:48] sure it was nvidia driver that corrupted my sound issues in opensuse] [03:48] this time going to install one app at time [03:48] then try amarok until it fails\ [03:48] whacked: ok,.. I'm really confused at the moment,.. but that's okay,... [03:48] i do hate rpm's [03:49] maybe 10.04 kbuntu is the way [03:49] yeah,.. debs rule the package scene, in my opinion. [03:49] i find packages break up easier in rpm's [03:49] just my thought [03:49] not that i am linux guru [03:49] whacked: i would totally suggest you try 10.04,... please,... for me,.. lol :) [03:49] more like noob [03:50] just for you [03:50] whacked: i think you will like the distro,.. [03:50] you buying dinner [03:50] I feel 10.04 would work better [03:50] lol,.. sure. [03:51] noticed there is no workspace thems with 10.10 [03:51] whacked: it's stable, compatible, secure, long term updates,.. and will be current for quite a while. [03:51] thought that was a step back [03:51] themes [03:53] whacked: tiny, tiny, step back,... for example,.. kde in 10.04 is version 4.2,... in 10.10 it's what,... 4.5 i think... minor significance and little trade off for what you gain. [03:53] downloading 10.04 [03:53] whacked: latest does not mean greatest. [03:53] true [03:54] I'm not sure what you mean by themes [03:54] whacked: right on,... lemmy know how it goes... i should at least be available for an instant message to my nick,... if i' [03:54] but you can create custom workspaces [03:54] if i'm not here. [03:54] that is the strength of plasma desktop [03:54] under style there was a tab for changing themes [03:55] style/icon/coor/font/\ [03:55] but i've gotta go for now,.. glad you've decided to give us another chance for your desktop of choice.... bye for now. [03:55] netbook suck for typing\ [03:55] ok bye [03:56] i read that packaes break easier on rpm based, only reason for change really to deb [03:56] bed time [03:56] sleep well [03:57] cant belive i formatted pc 5 time in porcess today [03:57] so exciting [03:57] lol [03:57] that's one way to think of it..... [04:31] hello. anyone knows how to fix this in pidgin: "https://omega.contacts.msn.com/" [04:44] milo: if its the ssl issue, I think that has been fixed in the latest pidgin update. you might want go to www.pidgin.im on how u can install that on ubuntu [04:45] bigbrovar: aah thanks let me try that [05:08] hi [05:09] i have a problem here, with somes files, on kubuntu, some characters appears not normally, like that f you can see, � [05:10] and when i try to open such a files with these characters in their names, it is'nt possible to open them [05:11] it's like they does'nt exist, i can't open them, and can't move them, i can do nothing [05:11] but if i am under Ubuntu (with gnome), it works [05:12] hmmm, sounds like you are missing a necessary font file or something [05:12] sorry for my english... [05:12] thanks valorie for responding, in reality, i have this problem from the 3.x versions of kde [05:12] and it is still here in the 4.xx versions [05:12] your english is fine, I just don't know what to do to fix it [05:13] I suggest asking in the kubuntuforums, and include the actual names of the files you are unable to open [05:13] http://www.kubuntuforums.net [05:14] mention how long the problem has existed, and that everything is fine in gnome [05:14] ok, thank you very much :) [05:14] this seems to be a time when most tech experts in teh channel are asleep, busy or away [05:14] unfortunately [05:15] do you know when i can find them available? [05:16] anyway, i'm going to ask in the kubuntuforums, as you suggested [05:23] I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 10.10 with locale set to Chinese(Taiwan). When I press ctrl+space to type Chinese, I don't get a candidate list to select characters. There is no ibus icon in the tray. Does anyone have any idea what to do? [05:24] hmmm [05:25] I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that issue [05:25] however, I'll bet you can find someone in #ubuntu who is [05:25] I'll try there [05:26] good luck, youlun! [05:26] thanks! :) [05:32] No one answered me in #ubuntu. That channel is so spammy. [05:34] well, if you are willing to wait for an answer, the ubuntuforums are superb [05:34] !forum [05:34] The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums. [05:34] be sure to search first, it is likely that an answer is already there for you [05:34] I've found answers there SO many times [05:35] even before I was using kubuntu, LOL [05:35] I've been searching for at least an hour already [05:35] :( [05:35] then be sure to post your question [05:35] Yeah, I will [05:36] youlun: just going to try installing japanese on mine. [05:36] another excellent site is http://askubuntu.com/ [05:36] frogonwheels: let me know how it goes :) [05:37] I don't see a way to search that one, however [05:38] valorie: looks like you can search by tags on askubuntu. I don't see much about ibus though [05:39] locales, perhaps? [05:43] 10.04 + Nvidia. I changed to native resolution of 1152x864 in Nvidia X Server Settings and copy the xorg generated to /etc/X11. But iafter rebooting, it boots to terminal and the F8 terminal stuck at "Checking battery state .. [OK]". Now running in fail safe mode. Any idea what might be the exact problem? [05:48] The driver works perfectly fine with all effects, even works when the native resoltuion is applied, but when the settings are commited to xorg.conf and rebooted it just ends up to terminal [05:48] hmmm, I thought xorg.conf was deprecated? [05:49] What! I have no idea about this. deprected in favour of? [05:49] zen_: using xrandr - and the xrandrtray or whatever it's called [05:50] zen_: krandrtray [05:50] zen_: if that's running on login, it should set your screen up how you want it. [05:52] frogonwheels: xrandr output shows max resolution of 024x768, but nvidia succefully applies 1152x864. Confused. [05:52] zen_: oh. hmm. [06:05] I posted about my ibus problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=329 [06:16] frogonwheels: resolution issue: When resolution settings aer not correct during boot, does it just end up in terminal or show appropriate message? Because I tried commiting the nvidia generated xorg.conf for 1024x768. Even then it just hangs to terminal. === corey_ is now known as corey__ === corey__ is now known as corey_ === corey_ is now known as corey__ === corey__ is now known as coreys === coreys is now known as coreys513 [06:35] youlun: there is one answer waiting for you! [06:37] thanks valorie! I just saw acid's post === Shaan7_ is now known as Shaan7 [06:37] hope that works for you -- it is a safe option, for sure [06:37] I think i'll relogin now since ibus still has two icons in the panel for the moment [06:42] So should I remove ibus before installing from the ppa? [07:21] hey how can i get html web page to load as desktop wallpaper on karmic please? [07:51] olskolirc: do you mean a homepage? [07:51] or do you want to copy the page and use that as a wallpaper? [07:51] if the latter, right-click and save the image [07:52] and then set that image as your wallpaper [07:59] I guess he meant setting a webpage in fullscreen mode stuck to desktop. Like active pages in windows. [07:59] *Active desktop [08:05] ah, it's been so many years since I used Windows === IdleOne is now known as irssione === irssione is now known as IdleOne === cafe is now known as Guest26450 === sean is now known as Guest64621 [09:49] hello everybody ! MY radeon 9250 is driving me crazy: it emits like a continuos beep ! [10:19] hi, just installed konversation. can anyone tell me how i access different channels please? [10:25] How can I crop an image? Image>Crop to selection option is not allowed here to be selected? [10:26] Got it [10:33] davendizz: type /join #newchannel [10:33] for each new chan you want to join [10:34] or you can search the server, by typing /list searchterm [10:34] then select and join those which sound interesting [10:34] using /j works too, for short [10:35] oops, you missed my reply to you, davendizz [10:35] davendizz: type /join #newchannel [10:35] [02:33] for each new chan you want to join [10:35] [02:34] or you can search the server, by typing /list searchterm [10:35] [02:34] then select and join those which sound interesting [10:35] valorie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:35] [02:34] using /j works too, for short [10:36] you need to start each command line with the / [10:36] silly floodbot [10:56] have the old known bug with /var/lib/NetworkManager/networkstate on kubuntu... but since last update "NetworkEnable=true" didn't work anymore [10:58] only set eth0 to auto connect in /etc/network/interfaces works, but this break some of my applications, which seems to check for network-connection over network-manager ?! Any Idea, what i could do? [10:58] hi [10:58] santana [11:00] #ubuntu [11:06] zzzxzzz: I installed wicd - its not a perfect solution but it works [11:06] r u sure? [11:07] what's not to be sure about, I couldn't get on the internet, now I can [11:07] but the thing is kind of a pain, you can't connect to a wired and wireless network at the same time === RaNdY is now known as Guest6967 === Guest6967 is now known as Guest85340 [11:20] Why might the "Add" button on the VPN tab in Network Manager be greyed out? http://imagebin.org/124647 [11:28] interesting [12:11] How do I install plasma themes in Kubuntu 10.04. I dont see themes dialog anywhere. === alessandro is now known as _alessandro_ === apachelogger is now known as releaselogger [13:07] hi [13:08] hi [13:08] bin zum erstenmal hier [13:08] isnt kiosktool on kubuntu? === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer [13:09] hello [13:09] hi crissi [13:10] after some while running (some days) i lost some text in kde status dialogs [13:10] like kopete 'user is online' [13:10] i'm running kde 4.5.3 on 10.10 [13:11] whats going wrong there? [13:11] and how i can get it back? [13:12] sorry [13:13] i can not english [13:13] for the problem with freezing ssh connections i found a workaround (add some options to users ssh_config) but it should be also interesting when this will be fixed [13:13] how to enable kiosk features on kubuntu? [13:15] biberao: there's no kiosktool for KDE 4 [13:16] Riddell: then how to enable kiosk? [13:19] byebye [13:19] thanks === 64MAAXU1N is now known as BajK [13:24] Hi, I installed Ubuntu with KDE but I don't have sound anymore [13:25] I precise, I'm on a french distribution [13:48] is there anybody ? === wiki is now known as Guest40856 [14:02] rtK: hello [14:08] hi phoenix_firebrd [14:08] Have you any solution ? [14:08] rtK: do you need help [14:08] Hello [14:09] phoenix_firebrd yes [14:09] rtK: what was your problem [14:09] I don't have sound anymore on Kubuntu 10.04 [14:10] I installed Ubuntu and I wanted to try kde so I installed kde-desktop but there's no sound [14:10] rtK: what is your soundcard [14:10] It seems to be a "HDA Nvidia (ALC1200) [14:12] rtK: i think ubuntu uses pulseaudio, you have to configure the kde applications to use pulseaudio [14:12] rtK: and youve checked in system settings -> multimedia? [14:13] I have a problem with my Printer: HP Photosmart D6160. All drivers are installed, I can see the HP Device Manager. When I click on Print Test Page, the printer reacts, but does produce just an empty sheet of paper. Has anybody any idea? [14:13] phoenix_firebrd What about phonon ? [14:14] This is my last issue for a complete changeover from Windows to Kubuntu. Under Unbuntu 09.10 the printer run successfully, as it does also under Windows XP. [14:14] rtK: like jussi said did you check the multitmedia settings [14:15] rtK: there you can find the phonon settings, see if your card is detected and test it [14:15] jussi, yeah I checked. In the french documentation is written to top "plaback/recording" in the list. I did it but without results [14:16] phoenix_firebrd, I checked it but when I test it, there's no sound and no notification [14:16] rtK: do you have vlc player? [14:17] phoenix_firebrd yes, why ? [14:17] rtK: in that set the audio ouput device to pulseaudio and try playing something [14:18] phoenix_firebrd, in multimedia settings ? [14:18] rtK: vlc [14:19] sorry I don't understand [14:19] rtK: open vlc [14:19] yes [14:20] rtK: in the menu [14:20] rtK: tools->preferences [14:20] yes [14:20] rtK: audio [14:20] yes [14:20] an then [14:20] and* [14:20] rtK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:20] rtK: output module. choose pulse audio [14:21] rtK: save and restart vlc [14:21] ouch [14:22] it didn't change [14:22] rtK: play some music file and see if you can hear any thing [14:22] I'm on KDE, do not forget it [14:22] rtK: so? [14:22] I can't hear anything [14:22] rtK: can you open the system activity [14:23] rtK: ctrl+esc [14:23] yes it open [14:23] it's [14:23] rtK: can you see the pulseaudio there [14:24] I can see it [14:24] yes [14:24] rtK: install the pulseaudio volume control [14:25] install ? [14:26] Where can i find it ? [14:26] rtK: kpackagekit [14:27] rtK: did you restart after the installation [14:27] phoenix_firebrd, restart the OS ? [14:28] rtK: ya [14:28] yeah [14:28] rtK: ok [14:28] 2 weeks ago [14:28] rtK: oh [14:29] I can't find pulseaudio volume control on Kpackagedit [14:29] rtK: search this in kpackagekit "pavucontrol". that is the pulseaudio volume control. install it [14:30] phoenix_firebrd, it's installed [14:30] rtK: then open the app [14:31] rtK: are you new to linux? [14:31] vlc open [14:31] phoenixbrd, yes =S [14:32] phoenix_firebrd* [14:32] rtK:open terminal. press alt+f2 and type terminal [14:32] Konsole ? [14:32] rtK: ya [14:33] terminal opened [14:33] rtK: type pavucontrol and press enter [14:33] yeah [14:34] rtK: is the volumecontrol app opened? [14:34] yes it's open [14:34] rtK: goto configurations tab [14:34]