[00:21] <graph_irssi> I just totally bricked my sound
[00:22] <graph_irssi> I was having issues with microphone input in Skype so i figured i would remove this piece of crap pulse audio >.>
[00:22] <graph_irssi> so I installed ossv4
[00:22] <graph_irssi> and well kmix and xine backend could not detected it okay...
[00:22] <graph_irssi> so crew it i purged and removed it
[00:23] <graph_irssi> i setup the linux sound system to use ALSA instead
[00:23] <graph_irssi> and figured I would use plain ALSa with dmix
[00:23] <graph_irssi> however this fail, and I got dummy controllers in kmix and nothing work
[00:23] <graph_irssi> so I figured I just revert back to pulse since at least pulse allowed me to liste to music
[00:24] <graph_irssi> so I put back in pulse, reconfiured my sound to use ALSA as input, reinstalled gstreamer setup all that stuff, removed the pulse blacklist stuff from my modprobe and reboot
[00:24] <graph_irssi> kmix popped up at login
[00:25] <graph_irssi> and all it can find is Dummy devices
[00:25] <graph_irssi> no /dev/snd <-- nothing
[00:25] <graph_irssi> lsmod | grep Audio found nothing
[00:25] <graph_irssi> aplay -l shows no sound cards
[00:25] <graph_irssi> and speaker-test does not work
[00:25] <graph_irssi> worse of all /dev/dsp does not exist either
[00:26] <moetunes> alsa prob isn't running
[00:27] <graph_irssi> moetunes: could it be something in my modprod ?
[00:27]  * graph_irssi never did a backup
[00:28] <moetunes> no idea
[00:28] <moetunes> lsmod | grep snd might tell
[00:28] <graph_irssi> nothing
[00:29] <moetunes> a reboot might be easiest
[00:29] <valorie> also, pauvucontrol might help
[00:29] <valorie> you should only have to use it once
[00:29] <graph_irssi> I've rebooted 10,000 times now
[00:30] <valorie> PA seems to get a bit confused sometimes
[00:30] <graph_irssi> pauvucontrol shows nothing I have it installed
[00:30] <valorie> poor thing
[00:30] <valorie> !
[00:30] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# lsof | grep pcm
[00:30] <graph_irssi> kded4     1808       root  mem       REG        8,1     17964    7348018 /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_pulse.so
[00:30] <valorie> how about alsamixer in console?
[00:30] <valorie> M = muted
[00:31] <can> Hi everyone. New Kubuntu User Here...
[00:31] <graph_irssi> valorie:
[00:31] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# alsamixer
[00:31] <graph_irssi> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[00:32] <Scunizi> graph_irssi: try kmix
[00:33] <graph_irssi> okay so
[00:33] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# alsa-utils restart * Shutting down ALSA...                                                                                              [ OK ]  * Setting up ALSA...                                                                                                 [ OK ]
[00:33] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# pulseaudio -k
[00:33] <graph_irssi> E: main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process
[00:33] <graph_irssi> root@graphitemaster:~# pulseaudio
[00:33] <graph_irssi> W: main.c: This program is not
[00:33] <FloodBotK1> graph_irssi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:33] <graph_irssi> well that did not work well..
[00:34] <Scunizi> graph_irssi: perhaps #kde
[00:35] <graph_irssi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/535718/
[00:35] <graph_irssi> it's not kde's fault
[00:35] <graph_irssi> it's kubuntu's fault and it's useless pulseaudio junk >.>
[00:36] <graph_irssi> the dumbest idea since day one was to ship ubuntu with pulse
[00:36] <graph_irssi> there should be an option to opt out.
[00:36] <graph_irssi> pulseaudio + alsa have been giving me problems sice the day ubuntu introduced it.
[00:37] <valorie> i have the opposite experience
[00:37] <valorie> I usually have had problems until I installed PA
[00:38] <valorie> even back in my Mandrake days, sometimes I used PA
[00:41] <graph_irssi> well, needless to say do you have any idea what could be possibly wrong?
[00:58] <valorie> graph_irssi: sadly, no
[02:34] <squash_> Morning all, have a question if someone has a minute. I'm running 10.10 64 bit, and trying to use TrueCrypt(http://www.truecrypt.org/downloads). However after installing TrueCrypt, it crashes immediately after starting its GUI. Wondering if someone else can try it and see if it is only me.
[02:40] <collabra> squash_: ha,... 10.10 is unstable and not ready in my opinion for distribution,... LTS is a Long Term Service for a reason,... stability, security, and compatibility.
[02:41] <collabra> squash_: perhaps truecrypt isn't at this time compatible with 10.10
[02:42] <collabra> squash_: another option you might want to consider is downloading the source if it's available and compile truecrypt yourself... if it doesn't work then,... you're out of luck
[02:43] <collabra> not much i can say,... but i think there are alternatives to truecrypt,... not as integrated and seamless,.. but nonetheless available as an option.
[02:44] <collabra> i'd have to think about what exactly what they are,.. but i'm sure with a little searching,... you would find them.
[02:45] <collabra> squash_: also,... you might try encrypting your harddrive as an alternative,... i know there is no 'hidden' partitions,... but it'll secure your data.
[02:45] <collabra> squash_: that's all i got.
[02:45] <collabra> :)
[02:46] <collabra> !truecrypt
[03:04] <whacked> where did tab go under styles for changing workplace theme ?
[03:05] <Gulfstream> whacked, can you explain your question?
[03:06] <squash_> collabra: I compiled the source myself to the same result
[03:06] <squash_> collabra: really I'm hoping that someone will actually download it and try to run it and see if it exhibits the same behavior
[03:08] <whacked> ok system setting/application appearance , then on left there is 5 icons style/colors/icons/fonts/GTK appearance etc, anyway under style there use to be a tab to change workspace theme
[03:09] <whacked> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMkn-TEj_10 ths video explain what i am attempting to find
[03:10] <whacked> the long bar at bottom where you have application launcher
[03:11] <whacked> ok
[03:26] <whacked> why why why pulse crap audio
[03:26] <collabra> squash_: hmmm,... sorry to hear that,... 10.10 must be just too different to be compatible,... i'd keep returning to the website every now and then to see if they've updated for 10.10
[03:27] <whacked> my m-audio card hates pulse audio
[03:27] <whacked> where did workspace themes go ?
[03:28] <whacked> first time with kubuntu
[03:28] <whacked> going back to opensuse
[03:29] <collabra> whacked: just a sec, there, whacked...
[03:29] <whacked> since it is impossible to remove puls audio with destrying system
[03:29] <whacked> oh
[03:29] <whacked> ok i can wait
[03:30] <whacked> tghis will be 4 install of an OS today\
[03:30] <collabra> whacked: before you spit on the distro... try LTS 10.04,... it's audio is alsa
[03:30] <collabra> whacked: and, yeah,... i hate pulse,...
[03:30] <whacked> but i ma correct it practcally immpossible to disable pulse audio right
[03:31] <collabra> whacked: i dunno,... I had more problems with 10.10 than just audio....
[03:31] <whacked> oh
[03:32] <whacked> opensuse wasawesome but the made changes recently to update process the keep destroying QT on me
[03:32] <collabra> so i use 10.04 LTS until squeeze goes stable.... then i'm switchin for the life of the distro.
[03:32] <whacked> but you cannot disable pulse audio
[03:32] <whacked> so for that reason i am not going to convert
[03:32] <collabra> pulse audio isn't default in 10.04 LTS,... alsa is.
[03:33] <whacked> yes
[03:33] <whacked> but you mentioned squeeze go stable
[03:33] <whacked> right
[03:34] <collabra> besides,.. 10.10 isn't stable or friendly in alot of ways,... It just wasn't ready for publishing.... I'm afraid.
[03:34] <whacked> it can be stable as a rock but if pulse audio still going to part of it
[03:34] <whacked> then i cant do it
[03:35] <whacked> if you try removing pulse it want to take whole gui with t
[03:35] <collabra> whacked: like i've said... more than the sound system is at fault with 10.10,.. from my experience...
[03:35] <whacked> ok back to open suse
[03:35] <collabra> whacked: I do not know why kde is going to pulse,...
[03:36] <collabra> whacked: pulse isn't ready,... it's a framework for potential,.. that's it.
[03:37] <valorie> that is NOT my experience
[03:37] <valorie> PA is usually useful
[03:37] <valorie> and 10.10 has been very stable
[03:37] <collabra> whacked: which is why i mourn ubuntu with this latest release,... i'll never get excited about any other releases other than a long term supported release.
[03:38] <collabra> valorie: your experience is irrelevant to me and makes little difference,... piss on 10.10
[03:38] <valorie> collabra: this channel is for help
[03:38] <valorie> you aren't being helpful
[03:38] <valorie> !language
[03:38] <valorie> go to offtopic if you want to complain
[03:39] <collabra> valorie: helpful,... help whacked,... you cant ,... 10.10 isn't ready,.. wasn't ready,... and will never touch my harddrive ever again.
[03:39] <valorie> ....
[03:39] <whacked> hi valorie
[03:39] <whacked> sure we were talking ealier tonight
[03:39] <whacked> about amarok
[03:39] <valorie> indeed
[03:39] <collabra> valorie: just the facts as i've experience them valorie...
[03:40] <whacked> well like i thought m-audio cards hate pulse audio\
[03:40] <valorie> then let's stick to facts
[03:40] <collabra> valorie: don't take it so hard,.. distros need to be scrutinized and laid bare for what they are,...
[03:40] <collabra> valorie: don't take it personally
[03:40] <valorie> whacked: that is why I recommended 10.04 rather than 10.10
[03:40] <whacked> and honestly it difficult for me , to figure out how to suspend service
[03:41] <collabra> valorie: as do i
[03:41] <valorie> if you can't use PA, then 10.10 isn't for your system
[03:41] <collabra> valorie: PA....?
[03:41] <valorie> pulseaudio
[03:41] <collabra> oh,.. pules.
[03:41] <collabra> yeah...
[03:42] <whacked> where i am going to be in future
[03:44] <collabra> whacked: pulse isn't complete yet.. it will be,.. just not in this release
[03:45] <whacked> which sound systems was a choice
[03:45] <collabra> whacked: scuse' ,.. ?
[03:45] <whacked> like in windows you install correct driver and go
[03:45] <collabra> whacked: compatible with pulse,.. you mean?
[03:46] <whacked> maybe
[03:46] <whacked> god i am so confused
[03:46] <collabra> whacked: :)
[03:47] <whacked> confused why opensuse is failing me\
[03:47] <collabra> whacked: do you mean what audio hardware is compatible with pulse audio,.. or,... ?
[03:47] <whacked> they must have made changes to update process
[03:47] <collabra> to opensuse...?
[03:47] <collabra> i'm confused too.
[03:47] <collabra> :)
[03:48] <whacked> sure it was nvidia driver that corrupted my sound issues in opensuse]
[03:48] <whacked> this time going to install one app at time
[03:48] <whacked> then try amarok until it fails\
[03:48] <collabra> whacked: ok,.. I'm really confused at the moment,.. but that's okay,...
[03:48] <whacked> i do hate rpm's
[03:49] <whacked> maybe 10.04 kbuntu is the way
[03:49] <collabra> yeah,.. debs rule the package scene, in my opinion.
[03:49] <whacked> i find packages break up easier in rpm's
[03:49] <whacked> just my thought
[03:49] <whacked> not that i am linux guru
[03:49] <collabra> whacked: i would totally suggest you try 10.04,... please,... for me,.. lol :)
[03:49] <whacked> more like noob
[03:50] <whacked> just for you
[03:50] <collabra> whacked: i think you will like the distro,..
[03:50] <whacked> you buying dinner
[03:50] <valorie> I feel 10.04 would work better
[03:50] <collabra> lol,.. sure.
[03:51] <whacked> noticed there is no workspace thems with 10.10
[03:51] <collabra> whacked: it's stable, compatible, secure, long term updates,.. and will be current for quite a while.
[03:51] <whacked> thought that was a step back
[03:51] <whacked> themes
[03:53] <collabra> whacked: tiny, tiny, step back,... for example,.. kde in 10.04 is version 4.2,... in 10.10 it's what,... 4.5 i think... minor significance and little trade off for what you gain.
[03:53] <whacked> downloading 10.04
[03:53] <collabra> whacked: latest does not mean greatest.
[03:53] <whacked> true
[03:54] <valorie> I'm not sure what you mean by themes
[03:54] <collabra> whacked: right on,... lemmy know how it goes... i should at least be available for an instant message to my nick,... if i'
[03:54] <valorie> but you can create custom workspaces
[03:54] <collabra> if i'm not here.
[03:54] <valorie> that is the strength of plasma desktop
[03:54] <whacked> under style there was a tab for changing themes
[03:55] <whacked> style/icon/coor/font/\
[03:55] <collabra> but i've gotta go for now,.. glad you've decided to give us another chance for your desktop of choice.... bye for now.
[03:55] <whacked> netbook suck for typing\
[03:55] <whacked> ok bye
[03:56] <whacked> i read that packaes break easier on rpm based, only reason for change really to deb
[03:56] <whacked> bed time
[03:56] <valorie> sleep well
[03:57] <whacked> cant belive i formatted pc 5 time in porcess today
[03:57] <whacked> so exciting
[03:57] <valorie> lol
[03:57] <valorie> that's one way to think of it.....
[04:31] <milo> hello. anyone knows how to fix this in pidgin: "https://omega.contacts.msn.com/"
[04:44] <bigbrovar> milo: if its the ssl issue, I think that has been fixed in the latest pidgin update. you might want go to www.pidgin.im on how u can install that on ubuntu
[04:45] <milo> bigbrovar: aah thanks let me try that
[05:08] <ubuntu> hi
[05:09] <ubuntu> i have a problem here, with somes files, on kubuntu, some characters appears not normally, like that f you can see, �
[05:10] <ubuntu> and when i try to open such a files with these characters in their names, it is'nt possible to open them
[05:11] <ubuntu> it's like they does'nt exist, i can't open them, and can't move them, i can do nothing
[05:11] <ubuntu> but if i am under Ubuntu (with gnome), it works
[05:12] <valorie> hmmm, sounds like you are missing a necessary font file or something
[05:12] <ubuntu> sorry for my english...
[05:12] <ubuntu> thanks valorie for responding, in reality, i have this problem from the 3.x versions of kde
[05:12] <ubuntu> and it is still here in the 4.xx versions
[05:12] <valorie> your english is fine, I just don't know what to do to fix it
[05:13] <valorie> I suggest asking in the kubuntuforums, and include the actual names of the files you are unable to open
[05:13] <valorie> http://www.kubuntuforums.net
[05:14] <valorie> mention how long the problem has existed, and that everything is fine in gnome
[05:14] <ubuntu> ok, thank you very much :)
[05:14] <valorie> this seems to be a time when most tech experts in teh channel are asleep, busy or away
[05:14] <valorie> unfortunately
[05:15] <ubuntu> do you know when i can find them available?
[05:16] <ubuntu> anyway, i'm going to ask in the kubuntuforums, as you suggested
[05:23] <youlun> I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 10.10 with locale set to Chinese(Taiwan). When I press ctrl+space to type Chinese, I don't get a candidate list to select characters. There is no ibus icon in the tray. Does anyone have any idea what to do?
[05:24] <valorie> hmmm
[05:25] <valorie> I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that issue
[05:25] <valorie> however, I'll bet you can find someone in #ubuntu who is
[05:25] <youlun> I'll try there
[05:26] <valorie> good luck, youlun!
[05:26] <youlun> thanks! :)
[05:32] <youlun> No one answered me in #ubuntu. That channel is so spammy.
[05:34] <valorie> well, if you are willing to wait for an answer, the ubuntuforums are superb
[05:34] <valorie> !forum
[05:34] <valorie> be sure to search first, it is likely that an answer is already there for you
[05:34] <valorie> I've found answers there SO many times
[05:35] <valorie> even before I was using kubuntu, LOL
[05:35] <youlun> I've been searching for at least an hour already
[05:35] <valorie> :(
[05:35] <valorie> then be sure to post your question
[05:35] <youlun> Yeah, I will
[05:36] <frogonwheels> youlun: just going to try installing japanese on mine.
[05:36] <valorie> another excellent site is http://askubuntu.com/
[05:36] <youlun> frogonwheels: let me know how it goes :)
[05:37] <valorie> I don't see a way to search that one, however
[05:38] <youlun> valorie: looks like you can search by tags on askubuntu. I don't see much about ibus though
[05:39] <valorie> locales, perhaps?
[05:43] <zen> 10.04 + Nvidia. I changed to native resolution of 1152x864 in Nvidia X Server Settings and copy the xorg generated to /etc/X11. But iafter rebooting, it boots to terminal and the F8 terminal stuck at "Checking battery state .. [OK]". Now running in fail safe mode. Any idea what might be the exact problem?
[05:48] <zen_> The driver works perfectly fine with all effects, even works when the native resoltuion is applied, but when the settings are commited to xorg.conf and rebooted it just ends up to terminal
[05:48] <valorie> hmmm, I thought xorg.conf was deprecated?
[05:49] <zen_> What! I have no idea about this. deprected in favour of?
[05:49] <frogonwheels> zen_:  using xrandr  - and the xrandrtray or whatever it's called
[05:50] <frogonwheels> zen_: krandrtray
[05:50] <frogonwheels> zen_: if that's running on login, it should set your screen up how you want it.
[05:52] <zen_> frogonwheels: xrandr output shows max resolution of 024x768, but nvidia succefully applies 1152x864. Confused.
[05:52] <frogonwheels> zen_: oh. hmm.
[06:05] <youlun> I posted about my ibus problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=329
[06:16] <zen> frogonwheels:  resolution issue: When resolution settings aer not correct during boot, does it just end up in terminal or show appropriate message? Because I tried commiting the nvidia generated xorg.conf for 1024x768. Even then it just hangs  to terminal.
[06:35] <valorie> youlun: there is one answer waiting for you!
[06:37] <youlun> thanks valorie! I just saw acid's post
[06:37] <valorie> hope that works for you -- it is a safe option, for sure
[06:37] <youlun> I think i'll relogin now since ibus still has two icons in the panel for the moment
[06:42] <youlun> So should I remove ibus before installing from the ppa?
[07:21] <olskolirc> hey how can i get html web page to load as desktop wallpaper on karmic please?
[07:51] <valorie> olskolirc: do you mean a homepage?
[07:51] <valorie> or do you want to copy the page and use that as a wallpaper?
[07:51] <valorie> if the latter, right-click and save the image
[07:52] <valorie> and then set that image as your wallpaper
[07:59] <wqapol_> I guess he meant setting a webpage in fullscreen mode stuck to desktop. Like active pages in windows.
[07:59] <wqapol_> *Active desktop
[08:05] <valorie> ah, it's been so many years since I used Windows
[09:49] <edferoci> hello everybody ! MY radeon 9250 is driving me crazy: it emits like a continuos beep !
[10:19] <davendizz> hi, just installed konversation. can anyone tell me how i access different channels please?
[10:25] <sresu> How can I crop an image? Image>Crop to selection option is not allowed here to be selected?
[10:26] <sresu> Got it
[10:33] <valorie> davendizz: type /join #newchannel
[10:33] <valorie> for each new chan you want to join
[10:34] <valorie> or you can search the server, by typing /list searchterm
[10:34] <valorie> then select and join those which sound interesting
[10:34] <valorie> using /j works too, for short
[10:35] <valorie> oops, you missed my reply to you, davendizz
[10:35] <valorie> davendizz: type /join #newchannel
[10:35] <valorie> [02:33] <valorie> for each new chan you want to join
[10:35] <valorie> [02:34] <valorie> or you can search the server, by typing /list searchterm
[10:35] <valorie> [02:34] <valorie> then select and join those which sound interesting
[10:35] <FloodBotK1> valorie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:35] <valorie> [02:34] <valorie> using /j works too, for short
[10:36] <valorie> you need to start each command line with the /
[10:36] <valorie> silly floodbot
[10:56] <rethus> have the old known bug with /var/lib/NetworkManager/networkstate on kubuntu... but since last update "NetworkEnable=true" didn't work anymore
[10:58] <rethus> only set eth0 to auto connect in /etc/network/interfaces works, but this break some of my applications, which seems to check for network-connection over network-manager ?! Any Idea, what i could do?
[10:58] <zzzxzzz> hi
[10:58] <zzzxzzz> santana
[11:00] <zzzxzzz> #ubuntu
[11:06] <Walzmyn> zzzxzzz: I installed wicd - its not a perfect solution but it works
[11:06] <zzzxzzz> r u sure?
[11:07] <Walzmyn> what's not to be sure about, I couldn't get on the internet, now I can
[11:07] <Walzmyn> but the thing is kind of a pain, you can't connect to a wired and wireless network at the same time
[11:20] <hazamonzo_> Why might the "Add" button on the VPN tab in Network Manager be greyed out? http://imagebin.org/124647
[11:28] <zzzxzzz> interesting
[12:11] <wqapol> How do I install plasma themes in Kubuntu 10.04. I dont see themes dialog anywhere.
[13:07] <biberao> hi
[13:08] <thomas___> hi
[13:08] <thomas___> bin zum erstenmal hier
[13:08] <biberao> isnt kiosktool on kubuntu?
[13:09] <crissi> hello
[13:09] <thomas___> hi crissi
[13:10] <crissi> after some while running (some days) i lost some text in kde status dialogs
[13:10] <crissi> like kopete 'user is online'
[13:10] <crissi> i'm running kde 4.5.3 on 10.10
[13:11] <crissi> whats going wrong there?
[13:11] <crissi> and how i can get it back?
[13:12] <thomas___> sorry
[13:13] <thomas___> i can not english
[13:13] <crissi> for the problem with freezing ssh connections i found a workaround (add some options to users ssh_config) but it should be also interesting when this will be fixed
[13:13] <biberao> how to enable kiosk features on kubuntu?
[13:15] <Riddell> biberao: there's no kiosktool for KDE 4
[13:16] <biberao> Riddell: then how to enable kiosk?
[13:19] <biberao> byebye
[13:19] <biberao> thanks
[13:24] <rtK> Hi, I installed Ubuntu with KDE but I don't have sound anymore
[13:25] <rtK> I precise, I'm on a french distribution
[13:48] <rtK> is there anybody ?
[14:02] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: hello
[14:08] <rtK> hi phoenix_firebrd
[14:08] <rtK> Have you any solution ?
[14:08] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: do you need help
[14:08] <Arran> Hello
[14:09] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd yes
[14:09] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what was your problem
[14:09] <rtK> I don't have sound anymore on Kubuntu 10.04
[14:10] <rtK> I installed Ubuntu and I wanted to try kde so I installed kde-desktop but there's no sound
[14:10] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what is your soundcard
[14:10] <rtK> It seems to be a "HDA Nvidia (ALC1200)
[14:12] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: i think ubuntu uses pulseaudio, you have to configure the kde applications to use pulseaudio
[14:12] <jussi> rtK: and youve checked in system settings -> multimedia?
[14:13] <Arran> I have a problem with my Printer: HP Photosmart D6160. All drivers are installed, I can see the HP Device Manager. When I click on Print Test Page, the printer reacts, but does produce just an empty sheet of paper. Has anybody any idea?
[14:13] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd What about phonon ?
[14:14] <Arran> This is my last issue for a complete changeover from Windows to Kubuntu. Under Unbuntu 09.10 the printer run successfully, as it does also under Windows XP.
[14:14] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: like jussi said did you check the multitmedia settings
[14:15] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: there you can find the phonon settings, see if your card is detected and test it
[14:15] <rtK> jussi, yeah I checked. In the french documentation is written to top "plaback/recording" in the list. I did it but without results
[14:16] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, I checked it but when I test it, there's no sound and no notification
[14:16] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: do you have vlc player?
[14:17] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd yes, why ?
[14:17] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: in that set the audio ouput device to pulseaudio and try playing something
[14:18] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, in multimedia settings ?
[14:18] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: vlc
[14:19] <rtK> sorry I don't understand
[14:19] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: open vlc
[14:19] <rtK> yes
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: in the menu
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: tools->preferences
[14:20] <rtK> yes
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: audio
[14:20] <rtK> yes
[14:20] <rtK> an then
[14:20] <rtK> and*
[14:20] <FloodBotK1> rtK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: output module. choose pulse audio
[14:21] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: save and restart vlc
[14:21] <rtK> ouch
[14:22] <rtK> it didn't change
[14:22] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: play some music file and see if you can hear any thing
[14:22] <rtK> I'm on KDE, do not forget it
[14:22] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: so?
[14:22] <rtK> I can't hear anything
[14:22] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can you open the system activity
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ctrl+esc
[14:23] <rtK> yes it open
[14:23] <rtK> it's
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can you see the pulseaudio there
[14:24] <rtK> I can see it
[14:24] <rtK> yes
[14:24] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: install the pulseaudio volume control
[14:25] <rtK> install ?
[14:26] <rtK> Where can i find it ?
[14:26] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: kpackagekit
[14:27] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: did you restart after the installation
[14:27] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, restart the OS ?
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ya
[14:28] <rtK> yeah
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ok
[14:28] <rtK> 2 weeks ago
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: oh
[14:29] <rtK> I can't find pulseaudio volume control on Kpackagedit
[14:29] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: search this in kpackagekit "pavucontrol". that is the pulseaudio volume control. install it
[14:30] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, it's installed
[14:30] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: then open the app
[14:31] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: are you new to linux?
[14:31] <rtK> vlc open
[14:31] <rtK> phoenixbrd, yes =S
[14:32] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd*
[14:32] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK:open terminal. press alt+f2 and type terminal
[14:32] <rtK> Konsole ?
[14:32] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ya
[14:33] <rtK> terminal opened
[14:33] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: type pavucontrol and press enter
[14:33] <rtK> yeah
[14:34] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: is the volumecontrol app opened?
[14:34] <rtK> yes it's open
[14:34] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: goto configurations tab
[14:34] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what is the profile selected?
[14:35] <hfc> hello
[14:35] <hfc> [  445.452051] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2
[14:35] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, what to you call a profile ?
[14:36] <hfc> broadcom BLUETOOTH stick
[14:36] <rtK> mute ?
[14:36] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: i couldnt get you?
[14:36] <hfc> kubuntu 10.04
[14:37] <hfc> tried every suggestion about disabling EHCI_HCD and so on
[14:37] <hfc> any ideas?
[14:37] <hfc> please.. thanks
[14:38] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd soory I don't understand
[14:38] <rtK> sorry*
[14:38] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: wait
[14:39] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can i remotely operate your desktop to try solving your problem?
[14:40] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: any problem?
[14:40] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, no problem
[14:41] <rtK> but how'll you proceed
[14:41] <rtK> ?
[14:41] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can you install the teamviewer software. http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx
[14:42] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx?os=linux
[14:43] <jussi> rtK: phoenix_firebrd - we generally discourage this behaviour, (remote desktop) as its potentially very dangerous.
[14:43] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: he is a newbie, how can i do it , its very hard in normal way
[14:44] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: he is a newbie, how can i do it , its very hard in normal way
[14:44] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: its one of the restrictions we have here on irc, you just have to keep asking questions and asking him to provide answers.
[14:45] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: where can i see the list of restictions in this irc
[14:45] <jussi> !guidelines | phoenix_firebrd
[14:46] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: thats the guidelines. however, operators are expected to also use common sense in giving advice to the users.
[14:46] <rtK> Do not get excited. There's no problem, if he can resolve my pb would it be wonderful.
[14:47] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: are you an operator?
[14:47] <jussi> rtK: just realise you are giving someone you dont know, full access to your computer and all the info on it.
[14:47] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: yes
[14:47] <rtK> hmmm
[14:48] <rtK> that' true
[14:48] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: thank you for pointing out the guidline.i will leave the decision to rtK
[14:48] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what jussi thinks is right.
[14:49] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: but if you trust a person, there is nothing to worry about
[14:49] <rtK> no problem. You would not do anything that damages the computer, wouldn't you ?
[14:49] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: i promise
[14:50] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd I installed teamviewer
[14:50] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ok
[14:50] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: also, vnc is installed by default iirc ;)
[14:51] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: ya, i didnt try that, i will surly try that, after this one
[14:51] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: please dont mistake me, i am trying to help rtK
[14:52] <jussi> phoenix_firebrd: I understand, but its my job to make sure that people understand the risks before taking them.
[14:52] <phoenix_firebrd> jussi: ya. i appreciate it
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: start teamviewer.3
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: start teamviewer
[14:53] <rtK> ok
[14:53] <rtK> it's running
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: dont say anything here
[14:54] <rtK> sorry ?
[14:54] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: you have to mail me the id and password. my mail id is phoenix_firebrd@yahoo.com
[14:57] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: did you send it?
[14:58] <rtK> I sent it
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ok, i am checking now
[15:14] <smartman> Всем привет, кто поможет из сорцев собрать deb пакет?
[15:21] <howlymowly> hi poeple..  short question. is it possible to turn off font smoothing in kate?
[15:21] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[15:32] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, I'm here
[15:32] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: hi
[15:32] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: what happened?
[15:33] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd, unfortunately ther's still no sound
[15:34] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ok wait
[15:35] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: open kmix
[15:35] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: its the volume control
[15:36] <rtK> phoenix_brd it's open
[15:37] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: big dialog with menu?
[15:38] <rtK> ?? the window with big menu ? no
[15:38] <rtK> it's Kmix, it's not a gnome app
[15:39] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: press the mixer button
[15:40] <rtK> volum icon in the bottom right of the screen ?
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ya
[15:41] <rtK> mixer ?
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> ya
[15:41] <rtK> yes it's open
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: in the menu select configure master channel
[15:42] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd yeah it's done
[15:43] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: are you using laptop?
[15:43] <rtK> no
[15:44] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: in the mixer dialog menu  goto settings ->select channels
[15:45] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: there can you find any things named pcm?
[15:45] <rtK> yes then ?
[15:45] <rtK> I found it
[15:45] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: select it and press ok
[15:45] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can you see the pcm control now?
[15:46] <rtK> yes it's display
[15:46] <rtK> ed
[15:46] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: increase the pcm control fully
[15:47] <rtK> phoenix_brd it has always been inscresed fully
[15:48] <rtK> sorry I'm not very good at English
[15:48] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: run the command aplay in konsole and tell me what you get
[15:49] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: so what, i am not good at your language :)
[15:50] <rtK> sudo apt-get aplay ?
[15:50] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: ya do it
[15:51] <rtK> it's displayed "The operation aplay is not valid"
[15:52] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: are you getting the error when you run aplay?
[15:53] <rtK> I type "sudo apt-get aplay" and this message is displayed
[15:55] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: the command is sudo apt-get install aplay
[15:55] <rtK> ouch
[15:56] <rtK> it's displayed "impossible to find the package aplay"
[16:00] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: try sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[16:01] <rtK> it was already installed
[16:05] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: sorry for the delay
[16:05] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: can we use the teamviewer again
[16:06] <rtK> phoenix_brd yes
[16:07] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: run the teamviewer and main me the id and pasword
[16:09] <rtK> I sent it
[16:22] <xHomicide``> I want to share a directory so windows PCs can access them.
[16:23] <xHomicide``> from within dolphin, looking at a directories properties, nothing happens when I click the "Configure File Sharing..." button
[17:17] <olskolirc> no valorie I meant using an actual web page as desktop wallpaper like the earlier linux version.
[17:48] <phoenix_firebrd> rtK: are you there
[17:49] <rtK> phoenix_firebrd yes
[18:43] <Fuzznut> I seem to be having a problem with hearing audio from my headset with kubuntu 10.10. Any suggestions?
[18:51] <ashley_> hello all. I recently had my laptop switched from windows vista to kubuntu. I am totally unfamiliar with almost everything on my laptop. My concern is... is there built in virus/spyware protection? Or do I have to install something to my laptop?
[18:51] <marxjohnson> Fuzznut: try running pulseaudio device chooser, and making sure your headset is selected as the output device for the stream your listening to (or set as the fallback device)
[18:51] <marxjohnson> apt-get install padevchooser
[18:53] <marxjohnson> ashley_: There aren't really viruses or spyware for Kubuntu. If you want to be extra careful, or are going to be sending/sharing files with Windows machines, you can install KlamAV and do a regular scan
[18:56] <ashley_> thank you
[18:57] <marxjohnson> np
[19:08] <bernardo> hi
[19:08] <bernardo> I'm testing kubuntu 10.10. I was a Fedora and Arch user before.
[19:09] <bernardo> I noticed that kubuntu use *a lot* of memory, propably because it has more underlining processes and daemons
[19:09] <bernardo> is there a guide somewhere to strp off unwanted daemons from kunbuntu 10.10?
[19:10] <bernardo> or to optimize performance?
[19:14] <greenmang0> bernardo: http://guvnr.com/pc/ubuntu-disable-services/
[19:14] <bernardo> thanks
[19:25] <bernardo> not very useful...
[19:25] <bernardo> sorry
[19:51] <prosper__> does anyone know how to get the file manager to show hidden partition
[19:52] <moetunes> normally ctrl+h  does the trick
[19:53] <prosper__> i guess not for me
[19:53] <moetunes> check in the view menu for the key combo
[19:56] <prosper__> well it work for hidden file but not for the partition in the side panel
[19:58] <nerdy_kid> I just had a thought:  I wonder if akonadi could allow access of ubuntu one from kde....would be pretty cool imo
[20:16] <yoost> I read that you can use a KDE Theme Manager for kubuntu themes, is that installed by default?
[20:16] <moetunes> !themes
[20:17] <yoost> moetunes: ?
[20:18] <moetunes> I thought the bot link would have something more useful
[20:18] <moetunes> I don't know about a theme manager
[20:19] <yoost> moetunes: ok it doesn't seem to work I just saw the !themes command
[20:19] <moetunes> yoost:  you didn't see what ubottu said about where to get themes?
[20:20] <moetunes> not that it helps you
[20:20] <nerdy_kid> yoost: kgethotstuff?
[20:22] <nerdy_kid> go to systemsettings, workspace appearence, and hit "get new themes"
[20:22] <yoost> moetunes: nope I use chatzilla  on firefox since I'm on kubuntu and are barely finding my way around as it is
[20:24] <yoost> nerdy_kid: aah that's were it is :)
[20:25] <nerdy_kid> yoost: glad you found it :)  a whole big bunch of apps in KDE have "get new blahblah" integrated
[20:25] <nerdy_kid> window decorations, icons, plasma themes, game themes, etc
[20:26] <yoost> nerdy_kid: ok so you get everything in when you need in that one file when you download the theme?
[20:28] <yoost> nerdy_kid: everything you need  when you download the theme?
[20:28] <nerdy_kid> yoost: currently there is no way to download a complete theme with one download.  That will probably change, but in the mean time you have to download everything seperately.  Everything means:  icons, kdm theme (login theme), mouse cursors, plasma (desktop) theme, color scheme and window decoration.
[20:28] <nerdy_kid> sucks, but no easy way around it currently
[20:30] <nerdy_kid> does that answer your question?
[20:30] <yoost> nerdy_kid: ok , yeah that sucks, but I guess you just have to do it. So you have to go to application appearence and install colours and icons for the theme?
[20:30] <nerdy_kid> yoost: ^^
[20:30] <nerdy_kid> yeah
[20:31] <yoost> nerdy_kid: ok at least I know how to do it then :)
[20:31] <nerdy_kid> many themes on the sites (and in the get hot new stuff) are not actually complete anyway.
[20:32] <yoost> nerdy_kid: btw do you know how to get a mac-inspired menu, you know the fish-eye look where the icons becomes bigger when you hoover them, I think I have seen themes like that, but I'm not sure if that is some special effect you have to do separately
[20:34] <nerdy_kid> yoost: sry man, I gtg maybe someone else can help you
[20:34] <yoost> ok
[20:35] <moetunes> you'll need a dock for that yoost
[20:35] <moetunes> !dock
[20:35] <moetunes> something like awn or docky
[20:35] <yoost> moetunes: ok thanks, I'll check it out :)
[20:44] <m477> what commend i can see hardware information ?
[20:45] <moetunes> sudo lshw should work
[20:46] <m477> moetunes: without sudo loggin is it possible ?
[20:46] <m477> it is preatty to much specific
[20:47] <moetunes> m477:  I am pretty sure you need sudo for lshw - you can try lspci and lsusb etc without sudo
[20:47] <m477> i need just roughly
[20:48] <moetunes> type  ls  and hit the tab button twice to see the diff ls options
[20:48] <m477> thx
[20:49] <m477> moetunes: but there isnt such commends on server where im logged
[20:49] <m477> via ssh
[20:50] <moetunes> what sort of server? ubuntu server?
[20:50] <m477> dunno rly
[20:51] <moetunes> I have those commands here through ssh
[20:51] <m477> but there isnt such
[20:52] <moetunes> you'll need to find out what the server is then
[20:53] <m477> doesnt exist any universal commend ? i just need to know basic
[20:54] <moetunes> those commands are universal for linux systems - if it is a windows server I would have no idea
[20:55] <m477> how check what typ server is it
[20:56] <moetunes> what does the   whoami   command return?
[20:56] <moetunes> if nothing then it is not a linux system
[20:59] <m477> returns my loggin name
[21:02] <moetunes> that's fine, does   cat /etc/issue   return anything?
[21:03] <m477> yea
[21:03] <m477> it is Scientific Linux
[21:04] <moetunes> you'll need to see if it has a chat channel or forum then
[21:04] <maco> there's also the generic "linux forums"
[21:04] <maco> or ##linux
[21:05] <maco> and lshw can be used without sudo
[21:05] <maco> it wont get quite as detailed, but itll give a bunch of ino
[21:05] <maco> *info
[21:05] <moetunes> not if it isn't installed... :)
[21:05] <m477> there isnt lshw
[21:05] <maco> oh
[21:10] <Fuzznut> is there any way to repair pulseaudio. I was messing around with a bunch of settings trying to get my headset and jacked it up
[21:11] <moetunes> you could try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure pulseaudio
[21:12] <Fuzznut> man getting this headset jack to work is going to take a miracle d:P
[21:13] <moetunes> I would check in alsamixer to make sure it isn't muted
[21:13] <Fuzznut> all it is displaying is dummy output as my audio source
[21:14] <moetunes> what does   amixer   return?
[21:14] <Fuzznut> mixer attach default error: no such file or directory
[21:14] <moetunes> heh
[21:14] <Fuzznut> d:P
[21:14] <moetunes> sounds like the card isn't found - do you know what it is?
[21:15] <moetunes> lspci | grep -i audio   will tell
[21:16] <Fuzznut> intel 82801I
[21:18] <moetunes> this link might help
[21:18] <moetunes> !intelhda
[21:18] <Fuzznut> cool will check it out
[21:29] <Fuzznut> guess I will have to resort to a reinstall then try messing with it again until I find a fix for the headset jack
[21:29] <Fuzznut> this has truely been a challenge
[21:30] <moetunes> Fuzznut:  you'll need to make sure alsa sees the card before trying too much
[21:30] <Fuzznut> what confuses the me is if I put the jack half way in the port while it was working the sound would come out of both speakers but I inserted fully the speakers go mute and no sound out of the jack
[21:31] <Fuzznut> my brain is tired hehe I hope you got that last statement
[21:31] <moetunes> yeah I understood it :)
[21:32] <atx> ok i got a weird question.. i need to back up my kubuntu system, with the current drivers intact, so i can do a reinstall of it -- have to use the wl driver for my wifi card and also have a different display driver
[21:33] <Fuzznut> I was using gnome forever and now kde uses pulseaudio by default and can't seem to switch to alsa
[21:33] <atx> How would i go about doing that?
[21:33] <Fuzznut> atx: to make a image of your install?
[21:34] <atx> yes Fuzznut a exact image of my install
[21:34] <Fuzznut> atx: you can use acronis true image
[21:34] <moetunes> !backup
[21:35] <moetunes> I use the dd command for that
[21:35] <atx> i basically need ot make an install image of my current system with its drivers.
[21:59] <Roey> Riddell:  hola.  https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257522  <-- when will this update hit Kubuntu?
[21:59] <Roey> Riddell:  oh and thanks so much for keeping kubuntu running smoothly
[22:02] <sam__> hey, i need help
[22:02] <sam__> kde won't start
[22:03] <sam__> http://pastebin.com/PwtUSD9z is startkde's output
[22:03]  * Roey wish he could help
[22:04] <sam__> is anyone here?
[22:04] <Roey> no sure.  WHy don't you lurk with us and you'll get a response eventually?
[22:05]  * Roey is lurking himself
[22:05] <sam__> i kinda want to play with plasma and i have limited time on the interwebs
[22:05] <Roey> ahh
[22:05] <Roey> is it a kubuntu-specific thing?
[22:05] <sam__> yep
[22:05] <Roey> oh
[22:05] <Roey> ??shrug??
[22:05] <sam__> http://pastebin.com/PwtUSD9z
[22:05] <Roey> like I said before, wish I could help
[22:06] <sam__> kded commits seppuku instatntly
[22:06] <sam__> what packages does kde require to start up?
[22:06] <Roey> ah
[22:06] <Roey> see that kind of stuff is why I am migrating my home pc to windows
[22:06] <sam__> its the first problem i've had in three years >_>
[22:07] <Roey> and this bug[1] which has been fixed and backported but hasn't hit kubuntu debs yet
[22:07] <Roey> 1. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257522
[22:07] <sam__> @jwboles http://pastebin.com/PwtUSD9z
[22:07] <sam__> @jwboles can you hel me out?
[22:07] <sam__> help*
[22:07] <sam__> @roey no cigar
[22:07] <Roey> aye
[22:12] <sam__> found out how to fix it
[22:13] <sam__> i had to nuke /var/tmp/kdecache-sam
[22:15] <ashley_> If someone could PM me that would be greatly appreciated. I just had Kubuntu put on my laptop today so I am fresh with many questions. Please & TY
[22:16] <Roey> ashley_:  what kind of issues did you encounter? I'm not a dev but I can help out with some things
[22:20] <naickname> hi
[22:20] <xport> hi
[22:20] <xport> hi all
[22:21] <xport> what thing does exists for recovering Kubuntu 10.10 after installong Windows7....  Because Kubuntu booter was destroyed
[22:35] <shamimzaki> Hi, can I expect a minimal kde if I install kdebase-apps and kdebase-bin only ?
[22:48] <jmichaelx> it looks to me like the maintainners of the kubuntu ppa have effed up again
[22:49] <Roey> why?
[22:49] <Roey> dude, the maintainers of kubuntu lurk here, please show some modicum of respect
[22:50] <jmichaelx> i said the kubuntu ppa, 'dude'
[22:50] <jmichaelx> and a screwup is a screwup
[22:51] <jmichaelx> has anyone else here installed the most recent updated from the kubuntu ppa?
[22:51] <Roey> you also said 'maintainners', but who's counting ;)
[22:51] <Roey> sure
[22:51] <Roey> which part of it
[22:52] <Roey> what's the issue?
[22:52] <jmichaelx> Roey: the maintainers of the kubuntu ppa.... which is not entirely synonymous with the the maintainers of kubuntu.
[22:53] <Roey> who knows, why leave it to chance :) anyway, what's the issue?
[22:54] <jmichaelx> Roey: i do not know what you are talking about, and i don't think you do either
[22:54] <Roey> sorry, it looked to me like you were about to ask for help with something
[22:54] <Roey> jmichaelx:  cheer up ;)
[22:54] <Riddell> Roey: 4.5.4 is due to be released next week
[22:55] <Roey> Riddell:  YES, thanks
[22:55] <Roey> Riddell:  seriously, this stupid bug has been debilitating my experience for months now
[22:55] <Roey> Riddell:  check out the attached video there
[22:56] <jmichaelx> upon installed the most recent updates from the kubuntu ppa, desktop effects no longer work, and in system settings>desktop effects>all effects, there is nothing there
[22:56] <jmichaelx> upon installing*
[22:56] <Roey> aye
[22:56] <Roey> is the package installed?
[22:57] <Roey> as in, check to see if it is still installed or if it was held back
[22:57] <Roey> brb
[22:57] <jmichaelx> Roey: i will check. although nothing was mentioned as having been held back when i upgraded
[22:58] <Roey> also,
[22:58] <Roey> are you running with composite enabled?
[22:58] <jmichaelx> initially, i had been blaming the nvidia driver
[22:58] <Roey> what's your video card, and do your drivers for it work
[22:58] <Roey> ahh ok
[22:59] <Roey> but you did glxgears and saw it running fine?
[22:59] <Roey> or glxinfo rather
[23:00] <Roey> Riddell:  also, where's is there a fixed-bug list for the coming 4.5.4 release?
[23:00] <jmichaelx> Roey: glxgears / glxinfo are fine
[23:00] <jmichaelx> Roey: and even if they were not fine, i do not think it would explain the 'all effects' menu being absent
[23:01] <jmichaelx> Roey: unless some functionality there has changed
[23:02] <Roey> hrm ok, are there any bugs currently filed against desktop effects
[23:03] <Roey> I am searching but so far didn't find anything;
[23:03] <jmichaelx> Roey: no idea. desktop effected worked here without issue until i installed these updates a few minutes ago
[23:03] <Roey> brb... gotta eat
[23:03] <yofel> jmichaelx: can you check if there's something possibly related to it in ~/.xsession-errors?
[23:03] <jmichaelx> yofel: yes, i can check
[23:04] <Riddell> Roey: dunno, you'd need to ask upstream
[23:04] <Roey> aye
[23:05] <Roey> also, as a Scottish citizen, what do you think of this TSA kilt idea
[23:05] <maco> hahaha
[23:05] <maco> i think its not on topic here ;-)
[23:06] <Roey> ooh! cool way to get KDE on the news:  make a KDE-themed kilt and sing the American national anthem as you get frisked at the airport.
[23:06] <jmichaelx> yofel: this is what i have in .xsession-errors
[23:06] <jmichaelx> http://pastebin.com/0Dwtd0Ay
[23:06] <Roey> maco:  acknowledged
[23:06] <saprohyte> i am havign a problem getting the sources for aircrack-ng using apt-get.  I get the message E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_source_Sources - open (2: No such file or directory)
[23:06] <jmichaelx> Roey: hit a high not as junk gets grabbed
[23:06] <jmichaelx> note*
[23:07] <jmichaelx> btw, the TSA kilt idea is awesome... sorry for the OT
[23:07] <maco> not terribly appropriate...
[23:07] <maco> saprohyte: run an apt-get update first?
[23:07] <jmichaelx> terribly inappropriate
[23:07] <saprohyte> will try that now
[23:07] <yofel> "KWin has detected that your OpenGL library is unsafe to use, falling back to XRender" with nvidia, huh o.O?
[23:08] <saprohyte> : A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY DB141E2302FDF932
[23:08] <yofel> jmichaelx: what's your exact graphics card? 'lspci | grep VGA' in konsole
[23:08] <saprohyte> I need to update the key?
[23:09] <maco> you need to add it to your keyring
[23:09] <Roey> jmichaelx:  haha :)
[23:09] <yofel> erm, shouldn't ubuntu-extras-keyring take care of the GPG key?
[23:09] <saprohyte> ok I'll search on how to do this. thanks
[23:09] <yofel> saprohyte: I'll give you a command, sec
[23:10] <Roey> btw, what exactly is the relationship between the PPA KDE maintainers and Kubuntu
[23:10] <jmichaelx> yofel: if it detects that, will 'all effects' likely be empty then?
[23:10] <maco> i think it should be:  sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 02FDF932
[23:10] <Roey> who exactly maintains PPA
[23:10] <yofel> saprohyte: maco was faster
[23:10] <jmichaelx> yofel: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)
[23:11] <saprohyte> completely worked
[23:11] <saprohyte> thanks yofel and maco
[23:11] <jmichaelx> Roey: if you were right , and i was wrong, i will be incensed
[23:12] <jmichaelx> ok, maybe not incensed
[23:12] <yofel> Roey: the kubuntu ppa is maintained by the kubuntu devs
[23:12] <Roey> got it
[23:12] <yofel> revcieves a bit less Q/A though
[23:12] <jmichaelx> yofel: i'd have slipped you a 20 to keep you from saying that
[23:13] <Roey> DAMN THIS PPA MAINTAINERS, WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE!!
[23:13] <Roey> ;)
[23:13] <maco> humans?
[23:13]  * jmichaelx concedes to Roey
[23:13]  * Roey gives jmichaelx a beer
[23:13]  * jmichaelx GLADLY drinks beer with gratitude
[23:13] <Roey> :) what do you drink.. I like local brews
[23:14] <jmichaelx> same here... we have some good one here in indiana
[23:14] <yofel> jmichaelx: just to make sure everythings alright there, please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:15] <jmichaelx> yofel: http://pastebin.com/5Z1Swsg8
[23:18] <yofel> ok, want a sledgehammer to hit kwin? I would do it. Now let's see...
[23:18] <yofel> can you go to desktop effects -> advanced and try to switch the compositing type? maybe check 'disable functionality checks'
[23:19] <jmichaelx> yofel: it will not let me disable functionality checks, i will try changing compositing type
[23:20] <jmichaelx> yofel: i did just successfully change to Xrender
[23:20] <yofel> and what happens if you change back?
[23:20] <jmichaelx> yofel: apparently a number or effects will not work under Xrender?
[23:21] <yofel> indeed, most effects need opengl
[23:21] <jmichaelx> yofel: upon trying to change back, i get "failed to activate desktop effects....."
[23:21] <yofel> duh..
[23:22] <jmichaelx> yofel: duh?
[23:22] <yofel> just me getting annoyed, since this doesn't make sense..
[23:23] <yofel> the nvidia driver is obviously working fine as the xorg.log shows o.O
[23:23] <jmichaelx> yofel: not that it makes any difference, but under Xrender i am now able to select 'disable functionality checks'. woth opengl, it would not let me do that
[23:23] <jmichaelx> with*
[23:24] <yofel> odd
[23:24] <jmichaelx> yofel: i think maybe you caught that i did not have this problem until i installed some packages from the kubuntu ppa a few minutes ago
[23:25] <jmichaelx> yofel: also, the 'all effects' menu is still empty
[23:26] <yofel> what I don't get is 'KWin has detected that your OpenGL library is unsafe to use, falling back to XRender. '
[23:26] <jmichaelx> yea
[23:27] <jmichaelx> yofel: there was also a kernel upgrade today, and the issue may be there.... but the empty 'all effects' menu lead me to thinking this was a KDE problem
[23:27] <jmichaelx> yofel: i should have upgraded the kernel first, then the KDE packages :-)
[23:27] <Roey> uh-oh, you see, now I'm glad I did not reboot
[23:28] <jmichaelx> Roey: you installed these same packages, perhaps, but have not rebooted?
[23:28] <Roey> lemme check my deb lines one sec
[23:28] <Roey> # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu maverick main # disabled on upgrade to maverick disabled on upgrade to maverick
[23:28] <Roey> # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu maverick main # disabled on upgrade to maverick disabled on upgrade to maverick
[23:28] <Roey> oh thank fucking god
[23:28] <FloodBotK1> Roey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:29] <Roey> my bad
[23:29] <Roey> (thank god I had left it commented out)
[23:29] <jmichaelx> Roey: have a modicum of respect, who knows what deities lurk in these channels!
[23:29] <jmichaelx> Roey: yea
[23:30] <jmichaelx> well, the is my workstation at my place of employment. i did the same upgrade at home on one machine, and not the other.... glad i didn't do both
[23:31] <Roey> heh
[23:31] <jmichaelx> although using Xrender, things are functional enough
[23:31] <Roey> wouldn't it be nice to have a 'roll way the f*** back' feature to recover a system from a bad upgrade?
[23:32] <jmichaelx> sudo apt-get roll-teh-back -F
[23:32] <yofel> I'm a bit out of ideas here, you could try the newer nvidia driver from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ maybe if that's the issues (but why would it...)
[23:33] <yofel> Roey: I think that's actually planned once btrfs get's stable, since it has internal snapshot support
[23:33] <jmichaelx> yofel: yeah, i thought about doing that, but i have my doubts that the problem lies there
[23:33] <Roey> yofel:  oh wonderful!
[23:33]  * jmichaelx is so looking forward to btrfs
[23:33] <yofel> for now you would have to use LVM to use snapshots
[23:35] <jmichaelx> we have a backup server here that is already running ubuntu+btrfs
[23:36] <Roey> is btrfs ready for the desktop?
[23:36] <Roey> performance-wise?
[23:36] <Roey> and stability-wise?
[23:36] <Roey> I keep seeing chanign statistics on Phoronix test
[23:36] <Roey> *tests
[23:36] <jmichaelx> ok, i may check back in after i get home.... i think i only upgraded the kernel on the one desktop, but i think it is still using KDE4.5.2, so maybe the situation will be different
[23:37] <yofel> Roey: from the other ubuntu testers that tried it in maverick I heard that it's rather slow, but that should probably improve in natty with 2.6.37/38
[23:37] <jmichaelx> Roey: it is not recommended for production.... but as test environment/backup environment, it's very usable
[23:38] <jmichaelx> thanks all for all the help
[23:41] <enzosat> buona sera a tutti
[23:43] <enzo_ch> sera
[23:43] <enzo_ch> ci sono italiani ?
[23:44] <Walzmyn> !it | enzo_ch
[23:57] <jmichaelx> yofel: ok, i am at home on a
[23:57] <jmichaelx> oops
[23:58] <jmichaelx> yofel: i am at home on a PC running kubuntu 10.10, kde 4.5.2, with the nvidia driver and all the latest updates, and things are fine