| czajkowski | aloha folks | 09:34 |
|---|---|---|
| lau1 | hello | 09:39 |
| tdr112 | morning | 10:04 |
| czajkowski | hows folks | 10:09 |
| czajkowski | bitter cold over here | 10:09 |
| slashtom | morning | 10:13 |
| slashtom | aye, get used to the cold | 10:13 |
| czajkowski | hows folks ? | 10:13 |
| slashtom | ime during the winter dublin is usually warmer and dryer than the UK | 10:14 |
| czajkowski | nods | 10:14 |
| slashtom | how are the teeth? | 10:14 |
| czajkowski | damn sore | 10:18 |
| czajkowski | need to get it removed soon | 10:18 |
| czajkowski | I just need to work up courage for this to happen | 10:18 |
| czajkowski | and swelling to go down so I can open my mouth | 10:18 |
| slashtom | failing that, pain can be a good motivator | 10:19 |
| czajkowski | aye.... | 10:19 |
| slashtom | ebel's off to get his sorted this evening | 10:21 |
| ebel | yarp | 10:21 |
| ebel | will be late to ubuntu hour at least | 10:21 |
| slashtom | now now ebel, she's not in the west-country | 10:22 |
| ebel | czajkowski: ☹ go to the dentist, you'll feel better | 10:22 |
| czajkowski | I did | 10:22 |
| czajkowski | I got an antibiotic and told I need it removed | 10:22 |
| ebel | Good luck! Hope you feel better soon | 10:25 |
| czajkowski | aye thanks | 10:26 |
| czajkowski | trying to decide now do I get uk health insurance | 10:26 |
| czajkowski | or pay vhi back home for worldwide insurnance | 10:26 |
| slashtom | you don't need uk health insurance | 10:27 |
| slashtom | you're paying for the NHS whether you like it or not, and it's not too bad | 10:27 |
| slashtom | but don't hold out for an NHS dentish, they are a rare find | 10:28 |
| slashtom | dentist* | 10:28 |
| ebel | czajkowski: some health insurance companies here might do a UK & Ireland cover | 10:28 |
| czajkowski | slashtom: see I'm kinda confused | 10:28 |
| czajkowski | I dont know if I get nhs cover or not | 10:28 |
| davisc | slashtom: Really? | 10:29 |
| davisc | slashtom: Took me a day or 2 | 10:29 |
| ebel | Also, you might have some form of international cover already with VHI. But some only cover for 90 days out of the country. | 10:29 |
| czajkowski | davisc: seems to depend on the area | 10:29 |
| slashtom | a day or 2 for what? | 10:29 |
| slashtom | czajkowski: even if you're not resident, there are reciprical agreements in place between britain and ireland | 10:30 |
| slashtom | (with the nhs) | 10:30 |
| slashtom | so you're treated as a regular british patient and are covered | 10:30 |
| czajkowski | ahhh | 10:31 |
| czajkowski | pl | 10:31 |
| czajkowski | ok | 10:31 |
| slashtom | so that's free GP visits, prescriptions for £7 (yes, you will have to pay), etc | 10:32 |
| slashtom | of course, you're paying for it with your tax | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | well went to dentist yesterday | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | it was 26 for visit | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | and 6.40 for prescription | 10:33 |
| czajkowski | so not bad | 10:33 |
| slashtom | and you may find that GPs tend to rush you out and fob you off with a simple prescription, you don't get the same service you would here | 10:34 |
| slashtom | oh, are you registered fora GP? | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | nope | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | went to a dentist | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | private one | 10:34 |
| slashtom | you must register for a GP ASAP | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | as that's what I could get ASAP | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | and within 1 hour | 10:34 |
| czajkowski | slashtom: why ? | 10:34 |
| slashtom | because everyone needs a GP | 10:34 |
| slashtom | this was the bit that confused me here, was that you don't need to register | 10:35 |
| slashtom | you cannot just turn up to a GPs clinic and expect an appointment | 10:37 |
| slashtom | you must be registered, there is a system! ;) | 10:37 |
| tdr112 | who is heading along tonight | 10:37 |
| * slashtom is | 10:38 | |
| slashtom | 7pm | 10:38 |
| slashtom | sorry, i'm not registered for the event on the loco | 10:38 |
| czajkowski | slashtom: oh how odd | 10:38 |
| ebel | czajkowski: i know it was strange when slashtom was asking how to register for a gp here. | 10:39 |
| ebel | czajkowski: the gp might not see you (?) if you're not on their list of patients. | 10:39 |
| czajkowski | you're kidding | 10:39 |
| czajkowski | odd | 10:39 |
| slashtom | and you only get one GP/surgery | 10:40 |
| tdr112 | slashtom: good stuff i will see you there at around 714 | 10:40 |
| slashtom | you cannot register at one near home and one near work | 10:40 |
| ebel | czajkowski: ergo, try to get on a list before you get sick and need to see one :P | 10:40 |
| slashtom | ok tdr112, ebel will be late and not drinking | 10:40 |
| czajkowski | slashtom: any idea how I find a list of local GPs so | 10:40 |
| slashtom | http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/1095.aspx?categoryID=68&subCategoryID=158 | 10:41 |
| ebel | czajkowski: in the UK GPs work out of a 'surgery' with many other GPs. | 10:41 |
| slashtom | my old GP was in a medical centre, which had several GPs surgeries, and things like blood testing on site (also had a car park, which was very handy) | 10:42 |
| ebel | Unlike here, it's not just an extension on the side of their house. | 10:42 |
| slashtom | aye, they tend to work 6-10 in one surgery | 10:42 |
| davisc | ebel: Our doc at home works out of a surgery - and always has | 10:45 |
| ebel | davisc: ah ok. i'm going on what slashtom says :P | 10:46 |
| czajkowski | aye my old gp had a surgey 3 of them there | 10:47 |
| czajkowski | also working in the health service showed me both sides of the coins | 10:47 |
| czajkowski | slashtom: thanks | 10:51 |
| slashtom | np, and don't forget my tips about car ownership if you get yourself one | 10:52 |
| czajkowski | will be a few months before I buy on e | 10:55 |
| czajkowski | one | 10:55 |
| jtoomey | lo | 10:56 |
| * czajkowski ebel you need to mail or pm huats re your contact info like name and address so stuff can be mailed to you | 11:02 | |
| ebel | czajkowski: for what? loco banner stuff? | 11:02 |
| czajkowski | yes | 11:03 |
| czajkowski | damn thought that was pm | 11:03 |
| czajkowski | sorry | 11:03 |
| ebel | sorted out the confusion for the banner | 11:24 |
| czajkowski | ebel: can you or someone post http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=823 | 11:57 |
| czajkowski | think it would be usefil | 11:57 |
| czajkowski | jtoomey: http://daniel.holba.ch/blog/?p=823 | 11:58 |
| jtoomey | czajkowski: hey - looks interesting! | 12:00 |
| czajkowski | yup | 12:04 |
| czajkowski | so they should be able to point you and others in the right direction | 12:04 |
| czajkowski | if yoiu follow them | 12:04 |
| ShaneM | Hi all | 12:59 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 12:59 |
| ShaneM | How's it going? :) | 13:00 |
| czajkowski | not too bad | 13:00 |
| czajkowski | pretty out | 13:00 |
| ShaneM | out? | 13:01 |
| czajkowski | outside | 13:01 |
| ShaneM | Ohhh | 13:01 |
| ShaneM | Yeah it's ok here | 13:01 |
| ShaneM | Kind of cold | 13:01 |
| czajkowski | oh tis cold | 13:01 |
| ShaneM | Or well cold inside my house :) | 13:01 |
| czajkowski | but it's crisp | 13:01 |
| czajkowski | no rain | 13:01 |
| ShaneM | Yeah same here | 13:02 |
| ShaneM | Surprising for Cork :P | 13:02 |
| ShaneM | czajkowski: Do you know what most Ubuntu devs user for development. Emacs, Vi, etc? | 13:05 |
| czajkowski | ShaneM: each has their own choice tbh | 13:07 |
| czajkowski | I've seen a lotta folks use Vi | 13:07 |
| czajkowski | but I also know it's a very split choice, folks like one or the other | 13:07 |
| ShaneM | So there's now like "Oh we use CMake for building, but you can use any editior you want"? | 13:08 |
| ShaneM | *no like | 13:08 |
| czajkowski | aye | 13:08 |
| ShaneM | Just wondering, since I'm coding in any text editor and using CMake. | 13:08 |
| ShaneM | Just wanted to know if that was normal or what. | 13:08 |
| czajkowski | ShaneM: you should idele in #ubuntu-devel and ask stuff | 13:12 |
| ShaneM | Good plan :) | 13:12 |
| czajkowski | :) | 13:14 |
| czajkowski | then you can learn more | 13:14 |
| czajkowski | and they offer mentoring | 13:14 |
| ShaneM | mentoring would be handy I think | 13:40 |
| czajkowski | yup | 13:41 |
| czajkowski | ShaneM: you can ask dhoblach he would know more | 13:41 |
| ShaneM | So I just message him in the IRC? | 13:42 |
| ShaneM | *should | 13:42 |
| czajkowski | ShaneM: well in main channel just ask him for advice or point you in the right direction | 13:43 |
| ShaneM | Alrighty :) | 13:43 |
| ShaneM | Should I say you pointed me toward him or is that not important? | 13:44 |
| czajkowski | nope not at all | 13:44 |
| czajkowski | say you're in ireland loco and looking to learn more | 13:44 |
| czajkowski | can he point you in the right direction | 13:45 |
| czajkowski | student ]looking for mentoring | 13:45 |
| ShaneM | Alrighty | 13:45 |
| ShaneM | Thanks | 13:45 |
| czajkowski | np | 13:46 |
| ShaneM | czajkowski: I just sent a message and I'm talking to him now | 13:54 |
| czajkowski | great | 13:57 |
| ShaneM | czajkowski: When does the heanet stream start? | 16:57 |
| czajkowski | it's over | 16:57 |
| ShaneM | Aww | 16:57 |
| czajkowski | was on earlier on | 16:57 |
| ShaneM | :( | 16:57 |
| ShaneM | I went off into a dreamworld there | 16:57 |
| ShaneM | czajkowski: Overview anywhere, rte or something? | 16:58 |
| czajkowski | The leaflet version of 4 yrplan? | 17:00 |
| czajkowski | http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1124/Leaflet.pdf | 17:00 |
| ShaneM | Reducing minimum wage, that's pretty rough. | 17:05 |
| czajkowski | not really | 17:05 |
| czajkowski | it's one of the highest out there | 17:05 |
| ShaneM | Yeah I know that | 17:05 |
| ShaneM | But I don't think things will get any cheaper here. | 17:05 |
| davisc | And meaning Irish business can't compete with the North | 17:05 |
| davisc | Things *have* got cheaper at home | 17:05 |
| czajkowski | they're still expensive but they have gotten cheaper | 17:06 |
| czajkowski | just means we were paying for things at a stupidly high price | 17:06 |
| lau1 | looks like I'll be joining you in UK (hopefully in very short time) | 17:08 |
| czajkowski | lau1: you leaving.. | 17:12 |
| lau1 | likely yes | 17:12 |
| czajkowski | wow | 17:13 |
| lau1 | well there is little hope of a job here at the moment | 17:13 |
| lau1 | a good few possibilities in UK or Mainland | 17:14 |
| czajkowski | back to france | 17:14 |
| lau1 | not that likely for france | 17:15 |
| slashtom | we're still hiring | 17:18 |
| czajkowski | davisc: http://www.dcleisurecentres.co.uk/Offers/Offers+Home | 17:18 |
| lau1 | slashtom I am not in standard IT most of the shops here have cut back | 17:19 |
| lau1 | the only ones hiring are UK and Ueurope | 17:19 |
| slashtom | what are you looking for? | 17:20 |
| davisc | Thank fuck! TOL is back | 17:20 |
| lau1 | localisation | 17:21 |
| davisc | czajkowski: None near me | 17:22 |
| ShaneM | Lol wtf student fees from 400 to 2000. Sure no one is going to be able to afford college now. | 17:22 |
| slashtom | i thought it was from €1500 to €2000? | 17:23 |
| czajkowski | davisc: TOL | 17:23 |
| ShaneM | slashtom: Just watching it from here http://www.rte.ie/news/player_newsnow.html | 17:23 |
| ShaneM | Either way still 2000 | 17:24 |
| czajkowski | register has gone us since my bf at the time paid 70 quid | 17:24 |
| czajkowski | to 1000 registeration fees | 17:24 |
| czajkowski | ShaneM: time some students got a job during the summer | 17:24 |
| czajkowski | bloody gob smacking the number of students not working during summer | 17:24 |
| davisc | czajkowski: Tomás O'Leary | 17:25 |
| ShaneM | From being a student, alot of people won't hire you during the summer because you're going to be there for a few months | 17:25 |
| czajkowski | ahh ok was wondering context | 17:25 |
| ShaneM | I had a job, for three of the four years. | 17:25 |
| ShaneM | But like wasn't that easy to find one. | 17:25 |
| czajkowski | ShaneM: been there and they do you just need to apply early | 17:25 |
| slashtom | €2000/year is still pretty cheap for university education ime | 17:25 |
| ShaneM | Not really so cheap when you're poor :P | 17:26 |
| czajkowski | ShaneM: aye but in ireladn they don't have the student loans the way they do in UK or USA | 17:26 |
| czajkowski | where you pay them back after college | 17:26 |
| * slashtom is still repaying his loan for university | 17:26 | |
| slashtom | i graduated in 2004, and will be repayibng it for another 10 years | 17:26 |
| ShaneM | slashtom: Where did you go to college? | 17:26 |
| czajkowski | slashtom: that option isn't here in ireland | 17:26 |
| slashtom | aberystwyth | 17:26 |
| slashtom | to get a loan? | 17:27 |
| czajkowski | to pay it off that long | 17:27 |
| slashtom | the length of time i'm paying it back over is due to the size of it | 17:27 |
| czajkowski | I took one out when I repated | 17:28 |
| czajkowski | 5K | 17:28 |
| czajkowski | paid it off while I was in college | 17:28 |
| terran | I am debt free | 17:28 |
| slashtom | are there any countries where you can go through college without incuring debt? | 17:28 |
| terran | Ireland | 17:28 |
| terran | I graduated with no debt | 17:29 |
| davisc | How did you support yourself during college? | 17:29 |
| terran | worked part time in Maplin | 17:29 |
| terran | and lived at home | 17:29 |
| slashtom | home was 200km from where i was studying :) | 17:30 |
| terran | ah | 17:30 |
| ShaneM | I don't think you can graduate without debt if you live away from home. | 17:30 |
| terran | see, mine was more like 3 :p | 17:30 |
| ShaneM | Unless you work a second job and sec stressed out like crazy. | 17:30 |
| czajkowski | I lived close to collegte | 17:31 |
| czajkowski | and had a part time job (ents) all the way through college | 17:31 |
| ebel | the uk loan thing is from the government | 17:34 |
| ebel | here you have to borrow from banks etx | 17:35 |
| czajkowski | aye | 17:35 |
| ebel | in .au it's based on a tax syste, | 17:36 |
| czajkowski | train time | 17:40 |
| czajkowski | toodles | 17:40 |
| ShaneM | Bye | 17:42 |
| Belserusk | Are non lts ubuntu releases supported for 18 months? | 20:36 |
| fagan | Belserusk: yep | 21:06 |
| fagan | but most move on as soon as the next release comes out | 21:06 |
| Belserusk | fagan, Thanks. Yes that is true in most cases. | 21:07 |
| czajkowski | fagan: no they dont | 21:07 |
| fagan | czajkowski: if they need to idle on a release they do on the LTS releases since they have less bugs | 21:07 |
| fagan | the normal releases never really keep the users for the entire supported period | 21:08 |
| Belserusk | fagan, Do you know what is this 'apt' for PCLinuxOS? http://i.imgur.com/JV0mP.gif | 21:13 |
| fagan | Belserusk: I dont have a clue about PCLinuxOS but id say they use apt as their package management system | 21:15 |
| Belserusk | fagan, ok. Ta. | 21:16 |
| fagan | Belserusk: I just looked at distrowatch and they use rpm but they call their development release apt for some reason | 21:17 |
| Belserusk | fagan, Yes. It is strange. | 21:19 |
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