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| mvo | hello | 16:00 |
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| jhunt | hi | 16:01 |
| barry | hi | 16:03 |
| doko | hi | 16:03 |
| Keybuk | hi | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | hi, sorry I'm late, was helping out support | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | is Robbie here? | 16:06 |
| jhunt | no sign in London :) | 16:07 |
| mvo | he is on vacation | 16:07 |
| mvo | I think | 16:07 |
| * mvo checks the calendar | 16:07 | |
| mvo | yep, all week | 16:07 |
| jhunt | Apologies for absence on behalf of ev - he's not allowed into the building (looks too much like a student clearly :) | 16:09 |
| mvo | sounds like a quick meeting then, half the team is on vac or strike :P | 16:09 |
| doko | strike? | 16:10 |
| mvo | (or preparing for a TV career) | 16:10 |
| mvo | doko: ev is out in millbank with the students | 16:10 |
| jhunt | he's back! | 16:10 |
| doko | milksop ... | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | ah, well in that case TBH the only thing I have to say is that we have alpha-1 next week and it would actually be kinda nice if the archive were vaguely installable | 16:11 |
| mvo | doko: haha - I learned a new word today | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | if people could look through the uninstallables list and try to poke things into workingness, that would be appreciated | 16:11 |
| barry | note: it's thanksgiving in the usa tomorrow so i'm out thu & fri | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | is anyone feeling stuck on anything? | 16:13 |
| doko | that's http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html | 16:13 |
| doko | barry: no thanks before giving me python3.2 | 16:14 |
| barry | doko: yeah, the --enable-shared bug is unrelated, so i'll commit that patch rsn | 16:14 |
| doko | barry: which bug number is this? | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | actually, here | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | #startmeeting | 16:15 |
| barry | doko: http://bugs.python.org/issue10520 | 16:15 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:15. The chair is cjwatson. | 16:15 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | since we're all here anyway | 16:15 |
| mvo | that list does not look too bad currently | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | can we have a quick lightning round? I want to make sure I'm ready to do a team report on Friday in case we end up having the release meeting after all | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | mvo: can you go first? | 16:16 |
| mvo | sure | 16:16 |
| mvo | slightly shorter week, friday off; apt: added apt-get changelogs and apt-get download, uploaded to natty; some merges; work on rnr-server (review, landed "make-lint" branch); software-center: bugfix, test-improvements, use native python-apt tagfile parser (quicker); synaptic: work on gtk3 branch; Vmbuilder: upload natty version (that can build natty and maverick VMs) and SRU maverick so that we can have maverick VMs on a maverick host (sic!) | 16:16 |
| mvo | ; Work on msttcorefonts SRU for #670629 | 16:16 |
| mvo | (done) | 16:16 |
| mvo | I would have liked to talked abut vmbuilder with robbie | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | about who's maintaining it, you mean? | 16:17 |
| mvo | yeah | 16:17 |
| mvo | that someone should maintian it enough so that on a new release a target for that is added | 16:17 |
| mvo | I'm happy to do that myself if I get access to trunk | 16:17 |
| mvo | need to have another word with soren I guess | 16:17 |
| mvo | but ideally it would be someone using it more | 16:17 |
| mvo | I just need it for my auto-upgrade base images | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | ok, I'll assume that's still on your to-do list - we ought to at least be able to do that level of maintenance routinely, perhaps put it on NewReleaseCycleProcess as a reminder? | 16:18 |
| mvo | sounds good | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | jhunt: ? | 16:18 |
| jhunt | Half day spent on lp:#674146 (put on hold for now), plymouth | 16:19 |
| jhunt | investigations (including reviewing cjwatsons plymouth-upstart-bridge | 16:19 |
| jhunt | upstart+plymouth branches+patches), wrote Plymouth wiki page after | 16:19 |
| jhunt | research (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth), Fixed bug in | 16:19 |
| jhunt | lp:ubuntu/plymouth only to find it was fixed in lp:plymouth :-(, lots of | 16:19 |
| jhunt | upstart code reading and investigations (creating debug env, testing, | 16:19 |
| jhunt | prepping a new upstart manual page ("init-examples"), wrote a | 16:19 |
| jhunt | bash-completion script for upstart (to be sent to Debian via cjwatson?) | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | s/ via cjwatson/ in a bug report/ I think, but our packaging is sufficiently independent of Debian's AIUI that it should go in there directly too | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | or else put it in the upstream source ... | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | (but you/Keybuk know better about that than I) | 16:20 |
| Keybuk | packaging of bash-completion? | 16:20 |
| * mvo added vmbuidler to NewReleaseCycleProcess? now | 16:20 | |
| cjwatson | I think it's usual to just have bashcompletiondir = $(sysconfdir)/bash_completion.d \n bashcompletion_DATA = upstart in a Makefile.am somewhere | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | or words to that effect | 16:21 |
| Keybuk | it seems that bash-completion supplies all of its completions | 16:22 |
| Keybuk | so it should go in there, no? | 16:22 |
| Keybuk | otherwise upstart would grow files for every single possible shell | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | um, it's mixed | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | but either's valid | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | grub ships a bash-completion file of its own; sometimes what the completions should be is tied relatively closely to the version of the software being completed, IYSWIM | 16:22 |
| cjwatson | I'm sure the bash-completion maintainers would take a patch if you prefer that though | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | anyway, let's continue | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | barry: ? | 16:23 |
| Keybuk | I prefer that | 16:23 |
| barry | was out sick a few days. subversion (fixed) and vte (inprogress) ftbfs. bug 662611 (virtualenv incompatibility). python issue 9807 to land and close today. sbuild/schroot backporting for session keeping on build failure. off thu & fri due to usa holiday. done. | 16:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 662611 in python-virtualenv (Ubuntu) "Not compatible with python2.7" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/662611 | 16:23 |
| barry | vte is bug 674175 | 16:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 674175 in vte (Ubuntu) "rebuild python-vte for python2.7" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674175 | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | barry: thanks. (one of these days I must convert my shonky local chroot setup to sbuild/schroot.) | 16:24 |
| barry | cjwatson: the version in natty is very cool | 16:24 |
| * mvo too | 16:24 | |
| cjwatson | my updates: | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | done: new grub2 snapshot, lots of upstream build fixes since I haven't done new snapshots for three months so of course it all stopped working; fixed rsyslog so installer is debuggable again; SRU catchup | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | todo: assemble initial blacklist for grub2-boot-framebuffer and package it somewhere; patch pilot morning on Tuesday; apparently I'm driving archive admin stuff for alpha-1 | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | -- | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | (so this means I will be sweating over hot CD images next week, and grab me this week instead if you want me for anything non-trivial :-/) | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | doko: ? | 16:25 |
| * barry is patch piloting on monday | 16:25 | |
| doko | spent most time on an internal project, plus openjdk-6 security updates, merges, submit bug reports to debian, armel fix, upstream binutils and gcc fix, prepare python3.2 update (before thanksgiving) | 16:25 |
| doko | -- | 16:25 |
| doko | toolchain armel fixes are these | 16:26 |
| cjwatson | doko: thanks. are we targeting python3.2 as the only python3 version in natty? | 16:28 |
| barry | +1 | 16:28 |
| doko | cjwatson: I'm trying, yes. will make it the default when 3.2beta1 is release | 16:29 |
| doko | d | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | doko: *nod* | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | Keybuk: ? | 16:29 |
| * cjwatson guesses the Millbank student mob has got hungry and eaten Keybuk | 16:33 | |
| apw | Keybuk is in the wrong os .... and doing a presentation | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | oh, the tech talk | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | of course | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | ok, aob? | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | I'll take that as a no | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | thanks all | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:36. | 16:36 |
| barry | thanks | 16:36 |
| mvo | thanks | 16:37 |
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| highvoltage | Anyone present for Edubuntu meeting? | 19:01 |
| * mhall119 is late | 19:25 | |
| mhall119 | and I have nothing to report | 19:26 |
| * alkisg is too late :D | 19:27 | |
| highvoltage | seems like most were :) | 19:28 |
| highvoltage | what the heck, I'll post a small summary anyway. | 19:28 |
| highvoltage | * Current daily builds are broken due to a broken dependency in sabayon (broke with sync from debian that has packaging differences) (should be fine tomorrow again) | 19:29 |
| highvoltage | * For alpha 1 things are kind of shakey since natty isn't really in a fantastic state atm but it's the first alpha so it's completely expected | 19:29 |
| highvoltage | (alpha 1 is scheduled for 2 December) | 19:30 |
| highvoltage | hmm, that's actually all that comes to mind :) | 19:31 |
| highvoltage | besides a blog post on ltsp fat clients that I'll post a bit later (just going to show it to stgraber to make sure that I don't say anything completely wrong in there) before posting it | 19:32 |
| highvoltage | it answers some of the same questions we get over and over on the edubuntu-users list :) | 19:32 |
| mhall119 | I haven't checked the daily lately, have they landed gnome 3 yet? | 19:35 |
| mhall119 | last time I checked, it wasn't even in the natty repos | 19:36 |
| highvoltage | mhall119: gnome-shell is currently broken, gnome3-session almost kind of works, there are big parts there but it's incomplete | 19:37 |
| highvoltage | there's also edubuntu-council renewal, | 19:37 |
| mhall119 | okay, I'll give it another try, as long as dconf/GSettings is there and the panels/desktop are using it, I should be able to get started | 19:37 |
| highvoltage | I'm not 100% sure what the exact outcome will be. the CC will re-elect current council (minus Richard who is stepping down), and we only had mgariepy being nominated so we'll wait on the CC for further instructions | 19:38 |
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