=== bjf is now known as bjf[afk] === IdleOne is now known as irssione === irssione is now known as IdleOne === smb` is now known as smb === rodrigo__ is now known as rodrigo_ === apachelogger is now known as releaselogger [16:00] hello [16:01] hi [16:03] hi [16:03] hi [16:06] hi [16:06] hi, sorry I'm late, was helping out support [16:06] is Robbie here? [16:07] no sign in London :) [16:07] he is on vacation [16:07] I think [16:07] * mvo checks the calendar [16:07] yep, all week [16:09] Apologies for absence on behalf of ev - he's not allowed into the building (looks too much like a student clearly :) [16:09] sounds like a quick meeting then, half the team is on vac or strike :P [16:10] strike? [16:10] (or preparing for a TV career) [16:10] doko: ev is out in millbank with the students [16:10] he's back! [16:10] milksop ... [16:11] ah, well in that case TBH the only thing I have to say is that we have alpha-1 next week and it would actually be kinda nice if the archive were vaguely installable [16:11] doko: haha - I learned a new word today [16:11] if people could look through the uninstallables list and try to poke things into workingness, that would be appreciated [16:12] note: it's thanksgiving in the usa tomorrow so i'm out thu & fri [16:13] is anyone feeling stuck on anything? [16:13] that's http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing/natty_probs.html [16:14] barry: no thanks before giving me python3.2 [16:14] doko: yeah, the --enable-shared bug is unrelated, so i'll commit that patch rsn [16:15] barry: which bug number is this? [16:15] actually, here [16:15] #startmeeting [16:15] doko: http://bugs.python.org/issue10520 [16:15] Meeting started at 10:15. The chair is cjwatson. [16:15] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [16:15] since we're all here anyway [16:15] that list does not look too bad currently [16:16] can we have a quick lightning round? I want to make sure I'm ready to do a team report on Friday in case we end up having the release meeting after all [16:16] mvo: can you go first? [16:16] sure [16:16] slightly shorter week, friday off; apt: added apt-get changelogs and apt-get download, uploaded to natty; some merges; work on rnr-server (review, landed "make-lint" branch); software-center: bugfix, test-improvements, use native python-apt tagfile parser (quicker); synaptic: work on gtk3 branch; Vmbuilder: upload natty version (that can build natty and maverick VMs) and SRU maverick so that we can have maverick VMs on a maverick host (sic!) [16:16] ; Work on msttcorefonts SRU for #670629 [16:16] (done) [16:17] I would have liked to talked abut vmbuilder with robbie [16:17] about who's maintaining it, you mean? [16:17] yeah [16:17] that someone should maintian it enough so that on a new release a target for that is added [16:17] I'm happy to do that myself if I get access to trunk [16:17] need to have another word with soren I guess [16:17] but ideally it would be someone using it more [16:18] I just need it for my auto-upgrade base images [16:18] ok, I'll assume that's still on your to-do list - we ought to at least be able to do that level of maintenance routinely, perhaps put it on NewReleaseCycleProcess as a reminder? [16:18] sounds good [16:18] jhunt: ? [16:19] Half day spent on lp:#674146 (put on hold for now), plymouth [16:19] investigations (including reviewing cjwatsons plymouth-upstart-bridge [16:19] upstart+plymouth branches+patches), wrote Plymouth wiki page after [16:19] research (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth), Fixed bug in [16:19] lp:ubuntu/plymouth only to find it was fixed in lp:plymouth :-(, lots of [16:19] upstart code reading and investigations (creating debug env, testing, [16:19] prepping a new upstart manual page ("init-examples"), wrote a [16:19] bash-completion script for upstart (to be sent to Debian via cjwatson?) [16:19] s/ via cjwatson/ in a bug report/ I think, but our packaging is sufficiently independent of Debian's AIUI that it should go in there directly too [16:20] or else put it in the upstream source ... [16:20] (but you/Keybuk know better about that than I) [16:20] packaging of bash-completion? [16:20] * mvo added vmbuidler to NewReleaseCycleProcess? now [16:21] I think it's usual to just have bashcompletiondir = $(sysconfdir)/bash_completion.d \n bashcompletion_DATA = upstart in a Makefile.am somewhere [16:21] or words to that effect [16:22] it seems that bash-completion supplies all of its completions [16:22] so it should go in there, no? [16:22] otherwise upstart would grow files for every single possible shell [16:22] um, it's mixed [16:22] but either's valid [16:22] grub ships a bash-completion file of its own; sometimes what the completions should be is tied relatively closely to the version of the software being completed, IYSWIM [16:23] I'm sure the bash-completion maintainers would take a patch if you prefer that though [16:23] anyway, let's continue [16:23] barry: ? [16:23] I prefer that [16:23] was out sick a few days. subversion (fixed) and vte (inprogress) ftbfs. bug 662611 (virtualenv incompatibility). python issue 9807 to land and close today. sbuild/schroot backporting for session keeping on build failure. off thu & fri due to usa holiday. done. [16:23] Launchpad bug 662611 in python-virtualenv (Ubuntu) "Not compatible with python2.7" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/662611 [16:24] vte is bug 674175 [16:24] Launchpad bug 674175 in vte (Ubuntu) "rebuild python-vte for python2.7" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674175 [16:24] barry: thanks. (one of these days I must convert my shonky local chroot setup to sbuild/schroot.) [16:24] cjwatson: the version in natty is very cool [16:24] * mvo too [16:24] my updates: [16:24] done: new grub2 snapshot, lots of upstream build fixes since I haven't done new snapshots for three months so of course it all stopped working; fixed rsyslog so installer is debuggable again; SRU catchup [16:25] todo: assemble initial blacklist for grub2-boot-framebuffer and package it somewhere; patch pilot morning on Tuesday; apparently I'm driving archive admin stuff for alpha-1 [16:25] -- [16:25] (so this means I will be sweating over hot CD images next week, and grab me this week instead if you want me for anything non-trivial :-/) [16:25] doko: ? [16:25] * barry is patch piloting on monday [16:25] spent most time on an internal project, plus openjdk-6 security updates, merges, submit bug reports to debian, armel fix, upstream binutils and gcc fix, prepare python3.2 update (before thanksgiving) [16:25] -- [16:26] toolchain armel fixes are these [16:28] doko: thanks. are we targeting python3.2 as the only python3 version in natty? [16:28] +1 [16:29] cjwatson: I'm trying, yes. will make it the default when 3.2beta1 is release [16:29] d [16:29] doko: *nod* [16:29] Keybuk: ? [16:33] * cjwatson guesses the Millbank student mob has got hungry and eaten Keybuk [16:33] Keybuk is in the wrong os .... and doing a presentation [16:34] oh, the tech talk [16:34] of course [16:34] ok, aob? [16:36] I'll take that as a no [16:36] thanks all [16:36] #endmeeting [16:36] Meeting finished at 10:36. [16:36] thanks [16:37] thanks === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia === releaselogger is now known as apachelogger === apachelogger is now known as bloglogger [19:01] Anyone present for Edubuntu meeting? [19:25] * mhall119 is late [19:26] and I have nothing to report [19:27] * alkisg is too late :D [19:28] seems like most were :) [19:28] what the heck, I'll post a small summary anyway. [19:29] * Current daily builds are broken due to a broken dependency in sabayon (broke with sync from debian that has packaging differences) (should be fine tomorrow again) [19:29] * For alpha 1 things are kind of shakey since natty isn't really in a fantastic state atm but it's the first alpha so it's completely expected [19:30] (alpha 1 is scheduled for 2 December) [19:31] hmm, that's actually all that comes to mind :) [19:32] besides a blog post on ltsp fat clients that I'll post a bit later (just going to show it to stgraber to make sure that I don't say anything completely wrong in there) before posting it [19:32] it answers some of the same questions we get over and over on the edubuntu-users list :) [19:35] I haven't checked the daily lately, have they landed gnome 3 yet? [19:36] last time I checked, it wasn't even in the natty repos [19:37] mhall119: gnome-shell is currently broken, gnome3-session almost kind of works, there are big parts there but it's incomplete [19:37] there's also edubuntu-council renewal, [19:37] okay, I'll give it another try, as long as dconf/GSettings is there and the panels/desktop are using it, I should be able to get started [19:38] I'm not 100% sure what the exact outcome will be. the CC will re-elect current council (minus Richard who is stepping down), and we only had mgariepy being nominated so we'll wait on the CC for further instructions === bloglogger is now known as apachelogger