[00:00] <gl1d3r> Does anyone know how to get a server working over wifi on a password protected network?
[00:00] <jiboumans> spamaps: actually, it looks like the *last* thing cloud-init does is set the hostname.. so it'll override whatever i do in runcmd =/
[00:03] <SpamapS> jiboumans: guess you'll have to create an upstart task ;)
[00:04] <jiboumans> spamaps: don't be silly
[00:04] <SpamapS> task\nscript\necho bah > /etc/hostname && hostname bah\nend script
[00:04] <SpamapS> start on startup
[00:04] <SpamapS> actually
[00:04] <SpamapS> start on filesystem
[00:05] <jiboumans> and how would i pass that through userdata?
[00:05] <SpamapS> cloud-init has a mime type for upstart jobs
[00:06] <jiboumans> oh hells no
[00:06] <jiboumans> i have some shiny plain text yaml to pass
[00:06] <jiboumans> we're not butchering that for somethign silly like this :)
[00:07] <SpamapS> jiboumans: write-mime-multipart can take your yaml and marry it with an upstart job. :)
[00:07] <jiboumans> spamaps: surely in our time together you know that 'can' and 'should' aren't always the same thing :)
[00:08] <SpamapS> jiboumans: the mime type thing is a little bit obtuse, but what else can you do to insert unrelated data of unknown type in a single location?
[00:08] <SpamapS> actually
[00:08] <SpamapS> oo
[00:08] <jiboumans> things that look more obvious right now: 1) disable cloud metadata service
[00:08] <jiboumans> 2) run-cmd + fork
[00:08] <jiboumans> 3) crontab entry
[00:08] <SpamapS> you can just add it to the cloud-config
[00:08] <SpamapS> #upstart-job\n
[00:08] <SpamapS> followed by the upstart job
[00:09] <jiboumans> where're you reading this?
[00:09] <SpamapS> docs/examples
[00:09] <SpamapS> hmm not lucid seems
[00:09] <SpamapS> 2010-06-17 "fix cloud-config.conf upstart job"
[00:10] <jiboumans> yeah, has to be lucid
[00:10] <jiboumans> although i keep telling smoser to spin new isos with backporting cloud-init
[00:10] <jiboumans> it's probably the single most awesome app shipped by default on an ami imho :)
[00:11] <SpamapS> jiboumans: actually #upstart-job should work in 0.5.10
[00:12] <SpamapS> jiboumans: and agreed on that point. There's not much reason to spend time perfecting an AMI if you can write 4 lines of cloud-config and have your app deployed and configured
[00:12] <jiboumans> spamaps, using: /usr/share/doc/cloud-init/examples/upstart-cloud-config.txt ?
[00:13] <scubes13> what is best method of getting bind9 9.7.2 installed on 10.04 server?
[00:14] <SpamapS> scubes13: you can try just building from the natty source package. If that works, submit it for backports.
[00:14]  * SpamapS wishes the launchpad/ubuntu/+source/$package pages showed backports
[00:15] <scubes13> SpamapS: would I just grab it from here? http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/i386/bind9/download
[00:15] <jiboumans> also: https://launchpad.net/~hauke/+archive/bind9/+build/1940598
[00:15] <jiboumans> scubes13: ^
[00:15] <SpamapS> scubes13: note that LaMont seems to be maintaining a backports PPA https://launchpad.net/~lamont/+archive/backports
[00:16] <lamont> SpamapS: maintain might be a bit overstretching it.
[00:16] <lamont> I tend to keep a current-ish bind9 package for hardy and lucid there
[00:16] <lamont> for really sloppy versions of "recent"
[00:16]  * lamont uploads his latest missives
[00:17]  * lamont tries to remember which of his packages he just broke for hardy
[00:18] <scubes13> jiboumans: maybe a stupid question, or obvious.. how do I proceed to install from the link you posted? ie, do I add this as a source (somehow) to sources.list?
[00:19] <jiboumans> scubes13: it links to: https://launchpad.net/~hauke/+archive/bind9
[00:19] <jiboumans> that explains how to add the ppa, basically:
[00:19] <jiboumans> add-apt-repository ppa:hauke/bind9
[00:19] <jiboumans> scubes13: no guarantee of the quality of course, but another ubuntu user has built it for lucid
[00:21] <scubes13> thanks - will give these a shot and see how far i get!
[00:21] <scubes13> really appreciate the help SpamapS jiboumans !
[00:21] <jiboumans> np scubes13, good luck
[00:28] <mathman54> need help locating resources
[00:31] <SpamapS> mathman54: you can find water with a divining rod
[00:35] <mathman54> hi pnunn
[00:36] <pnunn> hi mathman54
[00:36] <mathman54> what's up?
[00:36] <pnunn> not much... you?
[00:36] <mathman54> looking for info to set up postfix
[00:37] <pnunn> kkk.... what are you after?
[00:37] <mathman54> it is installed but I don't have any mailboxes setup and need to know how to do this
[00:38] <mathman54> i am hoping that there is a how=to someplace that I have not found yet
[00:41] <pnunn> OK... the default install is to have a mail box setup in each users home directory.  This can be configured though.
[00:41] <mathman54> how?
[00:41] <mathman54> where do I find my mailbox?
[00:42] <mathman54> there is no mailbox in my home directory
[00:43] <mathman54> hi cc
[00:47] <mathman54> hi
[00:47] <pnunn> Hmm... ok.. looks like the install maybe didn't go well... there are certainly howto's out there on postfix.
[00:48] <mathman54> do you know where?
[00:48] <pnunn> Sorry, not off the top of my head.. but look on the ubuntu forums.. there is lots of stuff there.
[00:48] <mathman54> hmmm
[00:48] <mathman54> ok i'll try that thanks
[00:49] <pnunn> Sorry I can't be more helpful... got to get a data centre sorted out for some visitors.
[01:23] <lamont> SpamapS: should the question come up, postfix is the one I broke wrt trivially backporting to hardy. debian bug 579668
[01:58] <mathman54> n
[01:59] <mathman54> quit
[02:08] <twb> Does kvm memory ballooning Just Work as at 10.04?
[03:48] <StrangeCharm> my freshly installed system isn't booting. my bios gets to 'verifying dmi pool', then nothing happens. things worked fine with this hardware configuration under the previous OS. there's no problem booting from removable media, just not when i try to boot from the hdd
[03:49] <twb> StrangeCharm: were you asking about this yesterday?
[03:51] <StrangeCharm> yep, twb. i ran file -s on sda, and it tells me that there's an x86 boot sector. looking at the alledged boot partition, there's a folder called grub. i'm not sure how to check that grub is installed right on that hdd, though.
[03:52] <twb> I still don't know :-(
[03:52] <twb> I think I'd be swapping hardware components in/out
[03:52] <demonspork> Chuck Norris keeps a photo of David Tennent under his pillow. Every night before bed, he strokes it, and sometimes, he cries.
[03:52] <twb> Also obviously you should unplug everything not needed to boot
[03:52] <demonspork> tennant*
[03:52] <StrangeCharm> it just doesn't make any sense to me. i'm going to keep asking periodically, until someone knows what broke.
[03:53] <twb> demonspork: you know what annoys me most?  He has a wicked Scottish accent, but didn't use it for Dr. Who
[03:53] <demonspork> lol
[03:53] <demonspork> yes
[03:53] <twb> StrangeCharm: most of us aren't mind readers and can't/won't break into your place to test your hardware
[03:54] <StrangeCharm> twb, i hope that someone will eventually go 'have you tried x' and be right
[03:54] <StrangeCharm> can i boot a hdd from the live cd?
[03:54] <twb> Theoretically, yes
[03:55] <twb> pass root=/dev/sda1 boot=local or so
[03:55] <twb> The kernel versions will need to match
[03:55] <StrangeCharm> which they should, if i'm using a live cd, after just trying to install
[03:56] <twb> Well TECHNICALLY it's a different build server vs. desktop, but probably not enough to piss it off
[03:56] <StrangeCharm> actually, i'm using the alt install disk and the desktop disk
[03:57] <StrangeCharm> root=/dev/sda1 boot=local doesn't seem to do anything
[03:58] <twb> StrangeCharm: you're passing those to the kernel at the boot: prompt?
[03:59] <StrangeCharm> twb, no, i was typing that into the kernet on the live disk
[04:00] <StrangeCharm> and when i say 'kernet', i mean command prompt
[04:00] <twb> StrangeCharm: that won't work
[04:00] <StrangeCharm> hmn, maybe i just need to mark the boot partition as bootable and try again ( the installer won't do that)
[04:00] <twb> StrangeCharm: no.
[04:01] <twb> Either you can do what I tell you, or you can ignore me and just keep guessing.
[04:01] <StrangeCharm> so i should reboot and tell it to boot from /dev/sda under the other boot option ?
[04:02] <twb> You asked if you could boot the HDD from the live CD.  You can, by telling the CD's bootloader to tell the CD's kernel and ramdisk "boot from an HDD" (boot=local) and which HDD to use (root=/dev/sda1).
[04:03] <twb> Where sda1 is the appropriate partition for your root filesystem
[04:03] <twb> Oh: it won't work if your root filesystem is under md RAID or LVM, because the live CD doesn't include support for those in its initrd.
[04:04] <StrangeCharm> twb, i don't have an unencrypted root, only an unencrypted boot, is that ok?
[04:04] <twb> StrangeCharm: no, that won't work
[04:05] <twb> You can pick "rescue" in the server (or alternate) CD, which will eventually allow you to mount your root filesystem on /target and chroot into it.  That will work with mdadm/lvm -- I THINK it'll also work with an encrypted rootfs.
[04:06] <StrangeCharm> twb, how does that help me?
[04:06] <twb> StrangeCharm: I don't know; presumably you can then do <whatever> to fix it.
[04:06] <StrangeCharm> sadly, i still don't know what whatever is
[04:07] <twb> Right.
[04:07] <StrangeCharm> could it hurt to set the boot partition as flagged bootable?
[04:07] <twb> grub will ignore the boot flag.
[04:07] <StrangeCharm> but i never get to grub
[04:09] <twb> StrangeCharm: unplug all unnecessary components from the system
[04:10] <StrangeCharm> that hasn't done anything. it just updates the dmi pool after the change, then verifies it as usual, in every case, not doing anything else afterwards
[04:11] <StrangeCharm> at minimum, i have the hdd, video card, cpu, ram, psu, and fans
[04:26] <Shidash> Hello
[06:56] <twb> cjwatson: it looks like insserv/startpar is disabled on lucid by default (/etc/init.d/.legacy-bootordering).  Why?
[07:07] <twb> cjwatson: never mind, pere ("the insserv guy") confirmed it's because upstart and insserv aren't friends yet.
[08:38] <twb> I ran bonnie++ on a three-way RAID1 lucid box and on a three-way RAID5 hardy box.
[08:39] <twb> The lucid box was faster for most stuff, but per-chr is much lower.  Is that normal?
[08:50] <soren> twb: Are they otherwise identical?
[08:51] <twb> Unfortunately, no
[08:51] <twb> At a minimum, one's running a bunch of flipping vmware VMs and OpenVZ VEs, and the other is basically unused
[08:52] <twb> I just don't understand why the character rate specifically would be "backwards"
[08:52] <soren> That does seem odd.
[08:53] <soren> Are these RAID'ed at the disk level or partition level?
[08:53] <twb> partition
[08:53] <twb> And there's LVM on top
[08:53] <twb> (on both)
[08:54] <soren> I don't have a anything resembling a plausible explanation.
[08:54] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/100647/
[08:55] <twb> Maybe I'm just reading it wrong
[08:55] <soren> Oh, and different filesystems.
[08:56] <twb> Yeah, they're basically whatever the default is in d-i partman for that release (hardy / lucid)
[08:57] <twb> 3x1.5TB raid5/ext3/hardy and 3x2TB raid1/ext4/lucid
[08:58] <twb> ...which is interesting, because I just realized there's 500G unallocated on the RAID5 box at the partition level :-/
[08:58] <soren> I'm not sure what's going on there. I think you're reading it correctly, fwiw.
[08:58] <twb> Oh, because it's one 1.5TB and two 1TB
[09:52] <XeNoT> Anyone can help me with how to change the vlan on a VM? Currently the log gives me "...f9:57,vlan=0" as output when I start a machine, yet I want to use another vlan
[09:53] <twb> XeNoT: what virtualization technology?
[09:54] <XeNoT> KVM, machine build using vmbuilder
[09:59] <jfig> Server boot failure : i have a server (10.10) with softraid, wont boot, if I use rescue mode data on lvm appears ok in /target, booting from disk following messages appear "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2" / "/dev/mapper/lvm1-lv1: clean, ......."
[10:05] <twb> jfig: AFAICT if you want a different VLAN tag, you just change vlan=0 to vlan=N
[10:05] <twb> Note that 0 and 1 are often "special" in 802.1q tagging
[10:08] <progre55> hi guys. I have set up exim4 on amazon, but because of the reverse DNS issue, the emails I send are getting flagged as spam. However, I have a hosting service, and I'd like to set up exim to send outgoing emails through that service. Is that possible?
[10:09] <jfig> twb: not a lan or vlan problem, server wont start boot
[10:10] <twb> Sorry, wrong person
[10:10] <twb> XeNoT: that was for you
[10:11] <XeNoT> I'll try it, thanks
[10:37] <jfig> how do i recover from a failed kernel upgrade ?
[10:38] <yann2> boot the previous kernel
[10:38] <jfig> no grub
[10:38] <soren> No grub?
[10:38] <soren> How do you boot?
[10:39] <twb> awful!
[10:39] <twb> Wait, wrong joke
[10:42] <icCode> who is the default owner of postfix's log files in /var/log (mail.info, mail.err, mail.warn)?
[10:42] <twb> probably postfix
[10:43] <twb> Nope, root:adm
[10:43] <twb> (as at 8.04)
[10:43] <icCode> thank you
[10:52] <jfig> how do i install grub from the rescue disk?
[14:12] <yann2> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/11/24/1346221/Ubuntu-May-Move-To-Rolling-Releases?from=rss while this is awesome for desktops it might be concerning for servers :)
[14:35] <smoser> SpamapS, upstart jobs should work in cloud-init
[14:35] <smoser> in lucid
[14:36] <smoser> i dont think you can add updstart jobs to cloud-config syntax anywhere.
[15:39] <HackeMate> hello
[15:40] <HackeMate> my /etc/sudoerrs is like this  www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server
[15:40] <HackeMate> it's just perfect, but how can I let www-data to modify the dhcpd.conf?
[15:40] <HackeMate> only the dhcpd.conf
[15:44] <qman__> I hope this isn't internet-facing
[15:44] <qman__> just adjust the permissions on dhcpd.conf to grant www-data permission
[15:44] <qman__> I'd change the group-owner to www-data
[15:46] <Brumle> HackeMate: you can add the user www-data to the ACL of the file: setfacl -m u:www-data:rw file
[15:47] <qman__> that's assuming he has acls at all
[15:47] <qman__> which he probably doesn't
[15:48] <HackeMate> setfacl -m u:www-data:rw /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[15:48] <Brumle> HackeMate: you can then see the ACL by using "getfacl", and remember never to use cmod on that file.
[15:48] <HackeMate> setfacl: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf: Operation not supported
[15:48] <Brumle> ad "vi /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf" as a command in the sudoers-file
[15:49] <HackeMate> but is a cgifile who modifies that file
[15:49] <qman__> chgrp www-data /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[15:49] <HackeMate> if another user modifies the file via ssh will the group change?
[15:50] <qman__> only if he changes it
[15:50] <qman__> editing a file does not change the owner
[15:52] <qman__> or any permissions, for that matter
[16:30] <SpamapS> smoser: what jiboumans wanted was an upstart job and other cloud-config syntax in one file
[16:30] <SpamapS> smoser: I said the way I knew to do that was with the mime multipart
[17:00] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: howdy!! You free to discuss PowerNap for a bit?
[17:21] <eagles0513875> hey guys im tyring to use apache benchmark
[17:21] <eagles0513875> whats the syntax to run 5000 page request to test how well apache handels all the requests
[17:23] <binBASH> ab -c 1 -n 5000 http://your-url.com/site.html
[17:24] <eagles0513875> whats the -c switch do
[17:25] <binBASH> concurrent clients
[17:25] <eagles0513875> and y 1
[17:25] <binBASH> because you asked for 5000 requests
[17:26] <binBASH> -c 10 = 10 x 5000 :)
[17:26] <eagles0513875> ahh
[17:26] <eagles0513875> ok
[17:28] <eagles0513875> binBASH: to improve performance im guess if it needs it i would need to go for a proxy server like squid?
[17:28] <binBASH> eagles0513875: you just have html sites there?
[17:29] <eagles0513875> binBASH: wordpress sites
[17:29] <binBASH> or some php/python dynamic stuff?
[17:29] <eagles0513875> so php html css javascript
[17:29] <binBASH> ok
[17:29] <eagles0513875> would you recommend a proxy server
[17:29] <eagles0513875> such as squid in this case for dynamic content
[17:29] <binBASH> for wordpress there should be some plugins already to speed up site performance
[17:29] <eagles0513875> i have heard really good things about squid
[17:29] <eagles0513875> would that be overkill
[17:30] <binBASH> eagles0513875: I dunno how much users your site has etc.
[17:30] <eagles0513875> funnily enough im not sure how many hits a day im getting either
[17:30] <binBASH> :D
[17:32] <eagles0513875> but currently my business is on the rise and the site im benchmarking atm gets quite alot of hits as alot of people already know about it according to my client
[17:33] <eagles0513875> binBASH: is there a way i can benchmark my databases
[17:35] <binBASH> eagles0513875: I think you're using mysql?
[17:35] <eagles0513875> si senor
[17:35] <eagles0513875> lol dont bust out the !es from the bot lol
[17:36] <binBASH> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/mysql-benchmarks.html
[17:36] <binBASH> for example;)
[17:37] <eagles0513875> binBASH: does the ubuntu mysql package come with them
[17:37] <binBASH> eagles0513875: http://www.tutorial9.net/web-tutorials/wordpress-caching-whats-the-best-caching-plugin/
[17:37] <binBASH> btw. :)
[17:38] <binBASH> I dunno that sorry
[17:39] <binBASH> if those plugins are not helping to improve site performance then you should consider using a proxy like varnish or squid
[17:39] <eagles0513875> im doign about 8.95 pages per sec :-/
[17:39] <eagles0513875> thsts not very good
[17:39] <binBASH> and how much with -k ?
[17:39] <binBASH> and from where did you bench? localhost? network? internet?
[17:40] <eagles0513875> lan
[17:40] <eagles0513875> from my laptop
[17:40] <eagles0513875> wired
[17:40] <eagles0513875> i think my bottleneck is my wifi router
[17:40] <eagles0513875> its linksys 100mbps
[17:40] <eagles0513875> new one is a small business gigabit router
[17:40] <eagles0513875> abgn cisco one
[17:41] <binBASH> what you get if you add -k to ab command?
[17:41] <PatrickDK> heh?
[17:41] <PatrickDK> if your going that slow, I wonder about you :)
[17:42] <PatrickDK> I can easily go 140 rps on a 1.4ghz p3 machine
[17:42] <eagles0513875> it coudl be the db needs some optomization
[17:42] <eagles0513875> im running 3 sites from the same wordpessdb
[17:43] <eagles0513875> binBASH: running the benchmark
[17:43] <eagles0513875> PatrickDK: also thinking my router is the bottleneck
[17:43] <PatrickDK> doubt it
[17:43] <eagles0513875> 100mbps router
[17:43] <eagles0513875> which is giving me random internet drop outs
[17:43] <PatrickDK> unless your wordpress, db, or testing machine is on wifi
[17:43] <eagles0513875> well
[17:43] <eagles0513875> its using ethernet over power
[17:44] <eagles0513875> and those run at 200mbps
[17:44] <PatrickDK> so?
[17:44] <eagles0513875> not sure if that could be a problem as well but im doubting it cuz performance is suprisingly stellar
[17:44] <eagles0513875> dunno i still think the router is the bottle neck
[17:45] <binBASH> eagles0513875: so what does ab show you? ;)
[17:45] <eagles0513875> still running
[17:45] <eagles0513875> hold on
[17:45] <binBASH> omg ;)
[17:46] <eagles0513875> lol
[17:46] <binBASH> how many requests did you send?
[17:46] <eagles0513875> 5000
[17:46] <eagles0513875> i should probably drop it down to bout 2000
[17:46] <binBASH> and what at -c ?
[17:47] <eagles0513875> 1
[17:47] <binBASH> really slow then ;)
[17:47] <eagles0513875> :-/
[17:48] <eagles0513875> well also i set a limit on the apache child processes
[17:48] <eagles0513875> forgot what its called
[17:48] <eagles0513875> max requests per child thread or something
[17:49] <eagles0513875> binBASH:  im not sure if the caching plugins would help
[17:49] <eagles0513875> if its this slow
[17:51] <eagles0513875> last 500 requests
[17:53] <eagles0513875> binBASH: thats the output http://pastebin.com/9XQ7HX26
[17:53] <binBASH> I'm pretty sure they'll help for most wordpress sites ;)
[17:53] <eagles0513875> wouldnt it be easier to setup squid then using a plugin for each individual site?
[17:54] <binBASH> so it looks like your keep-alive on the server is disabled ;)
[17:54] <eagles0513875> O_o
[17:54] <binBASH> eagles0513875: can you repeat tests with a static html file?
[17:54] <eagles0513875> what exactly does that do
[17:55] <eagles0513875> well i can repeate a test with my business site which isnt getting any traffic cept from me if ya like
[17:55] <binBASH> keep-alive doesn't close connections on every request
[17:55] <eagles0513875> should i enable it and run the benchmark again
[17:55] <binBASH> just test with a static html file now ;)
[17:56] <binBASH> then you can see what's the max speed of your server
[17:56] <eagles0513875> have a static php file if that counts for anything
[17:56] <binBASH> no
[17:56] <binBASH> html :D
[17:56] <eagles0513875> just a basic html file
[17:56] <binBASH> yup
[17:56] <eagles0513875> can it be a blank file with an html extension
[17:56] <binBASH> you can create a text file with Hello World in it :D
[17:56] <binBASH> same thing
[17:56] <eagles0513875> ok
[17:58] <binBASH> driving home will read your stuff in 30 mins or so
[17:58] <binBASH> cya
[17:58] <eagles0513875> binBASH: ok
[17:58] <eagles0513875> benchmarking now
[18:08] <eagles0513875> binBASH: apr_socket_recv: Connection timed out (110) Total of 30 requests completed
[18:12] <PrestonConnors> Hello, sometimes I see kernel log file messages with operation="profile_remove" in them. What does operation="profile_remove" mean? Where can I get more information on this topic?
[18:12] <PrestonConnors> Thie affects me because when I try to start some kvm VMs via virsh start this log file message is generated and virsh start just hangs.
[18:14] <ssureshot> where would the sendmail site.config.m4 file be placed in ubuntu? /?/?/devtools/site
[18:15] <SpamapS> ivoks: bug 681071 .. you should probably click the 'This affects me too' button. ;)
[18:15] <ivoks> SpamapS: :) thanks
[18:19] <PrestonConnors> Is apparmor a Ubuntu-only thing? Does it come included with Debian?
[18:20] <SpamapS> ivoks: no problem.. allowed me to get intimate with upstart's ptrace stuff. :)
[18:21] <ivoks> SpamapS: that problem is my nightmare for some time :)
[18:22] <ivoks> SpamapS: i have an upstart job that sends term in pre-stop to corosync and then waits for some time before exiting :)
[18:22] <SpamapS> ivoks: yeah, thats not supposed to happen. ;)
[18:22] <SpamapS> ivoks: I'm working on a patch to upstart to solve that bug btw..
[18:23] <SpamapS> It may be 3 lines
[18:23] <SpamapS> or, I may be incredibly naive
[18:24] <ivoks> SpamapS: i've learned that being too optimistic always backfires
[18:24] <zul> heh
[18:24] <zul> ivoks: you have been an ubuntu dev too long :)
[18:24] <ivoks> oh, that reminds me
[18:24] <ivoks> i nee to apply for ubuntu-motu :)
[18:27] <PrestonConnors> Does anyone know how apparmor and libvirt communicate with each other? Specifically under what conditions does libvirt trigger operation="profile_remove"?
[18:29] <eagles0513875> PrestonConnors: apparmor fyi comes on most distros
[18:29] <PrestonConnors> I'm trying to work with apparmor but I'm unclear on what operation="profile_remove" is and what triggers it in relation to libvirt and virsh start.
[18:32] <zul> ScottK: how does the backport process work?
[18:33] <ScottK> !backports | zul
[18:33] <ScottK> I think that explains it.
[18:33] <ScottK> Let me know if not.
[18:33] <jiboumans> summon smoser!
[18:36] <Daviey> lo jiboumans o/
[18:37] <Daviey> ScottK: I was under the impression -backports was changing somewhat this cycle?
[18:37] <jiboumans> hi daviey
[18:37] <ScottK> Depends on if I get to it or not.
[18:37] <ScottK> That's the intent.
[18:38] <Daviey> ScottK: The wiki page is what you /want/, or what it is currently?
[18:38] <SpamapS> ScottK: is there a spec somewhere that maybe one of us could pick up if you don't get to it?
[18:38] <ScottK> Daviey: ~current.
[18:39] <Daviey> ScottK: If what you want is spec'd out, it could be split up - if you are concerned you don't have enough time.
[18:39] <ScottK> SpamapS: There is, but it won't help much.  The work item is something like "[kitterman] Write up a proposal for what we want to change for the Tech Board"
[18:39] <draven_sol> is encrypted raid possible using the server install 10.04 disk?
[18:40] <Daviey> ScottK: Ah, ok - that is kinda a blocker
[18:40] <draven_sol> i've managed to successfully install what appears to be  an encrypted raid system but if i power down and pull one drive i can't boot degraded like i can if i don't have the encryption on the raid
[18:48] <zul> smoser is on holiday apparently
[18:50] <jiboumans> d'oh
[18:50] <SpamapS> ScottK: but if we wrote a draft for you, you could just edit/stamp it and present it for the TB?
[18:50] <ScottK> Well it's the sort of thing that would take me about as long to explain as to write.
[18:50] <ScottK> I have this theory it will get done over Thanksgiving break.
[18:51] <SpamapS> jiboumans: its this crazy tradition we have where we eat an insane amount of food and fight with relatives.
[18:51] <jiboumans> spamaps: i'm keenly aware
[18:51] <jiboumans> i'm also aware that's tomorrow ;)
[18:51] <SpamapS> ScottK: alright, I'll cross my fingers
[18:51] <SpamapS> jiboumans: will you be partaking in the engorgement?
[18:52] <jiboumans> spamaps: we're having some family over and there'll be turkey
[18:52] <jiboumans> so in a traditional sense 'yes'
[18:52] <SpamapS> I will be the only person with "only" US citizenship at my thanksgiving dinner tomorrow. ;)
[18:53] <SpamapS> one czech, one italian, one spaniard, and one half czech/half american.
[18:53] <SpamapS> oh and two 1/3 italian, 1/3 spaniard, 1/3 americans. :)
[18:53] <ScottK> 1/3 is tough to get right.
[18:54] <SpamapS> agreed.. you have to cust just below the armpits and hips
[18:54] <SpamapS> s/cust/cut/
[19:12] <hallyn> SpamapS: ivoks: nice (681071)
[19:14] <SpamapS> hallyn: booting a vm right now to try out a patched upstart ;)
[20:28] <SpamapS> kirkland: was looking at your puppet change that just popped up on the blueprints. I've been using approx now for a few days, and I'm not sure its scalable enough for large scale deployments.
[20:29] <SpamapS> kirkland: execing curl works great for a couple of debootstraps on the local machine, but I think it might bog down and/or fail with say 100 machines all trying to fetch stuff at once.
[20:36] <binBASH> re
[20:36] <binBASH> eagles0513875?
[20:37] <_Techie_> what you want him for?
[20:38] <binBASH> he wanted to know about his webserver probs ;)
[20:38] <_Techie_> which were
[20:38] <_Techie_> im in need of some humour this morning
[20:39] <binBASH> Slow wordpress site;)
[20:40] <binBASH> _Techie_: why humour? Did he ask stupid questions before? :D
[20:40] <_Techie_> im in another channel with him
[20:41] <_Techie_> anyway, im gonna have to get back to you, gotta install some graphics drivers
[20:46] <binBASH> wb _Techie_
[20:46] <_Techie_> ty
[20:46] <_Techie_> still not totaly done though
[20:47] <_Techie_> okay, restarting
[20:50] <_Techie_> omg, so much better now that i have all 3 creens running
[20:50] <_Techie_> screens*
[20:59] <SpamapS> Interesting...
[20:59] <SpamapS> Important Change: Replication: The LOAD DATA INFILE statement is now considered unsafe for statement-based replication. When using statement-based logging mode, the statement now produces a warning; when using mixed-format logging, the statement is made using the row-based format. (Bug#34283)
[20:59] <SpamapS> as of mysql 5.1.50
[21:21] <fuho> Hi everyone
[22:05] <clayd> i am running a small web server on 10.04 and noticing that the memory useage is almost completely masxed out.  any hints at what i could go look at to figure out what is causing this?
[22:15] <Datz> clayd: see what is using memory with program "top"
[22:16] <clayd> i ust found that.  apache is using quite a bit but i dont understand why.  will have to look more into that.  thank though
[22:17] <RoyK> clayd: set swappiness to 100
[22:17] <RoyK> it helps a bit
[22:17] <clayd> what is swappiness?  is that in the apache conf file?
[22:17] <RoyK> swapping out pages not used much
[22:18] <RoyK> clayd: sysctl vm.swappiness
[22:18] <RoyK> normally it's at 60, set it to 100 and linux will swap out earler
[22:19] <RoyK> meaning more memory will be used for usual stuff even if some process allocates a bunch
[22:20] <clayd> i am starting to think my biggest issue is running a wordpress site on a 512 cloud server :(
[22:20] <clayd> I figured it wouldn't be that big of an issue/.   I will try swappiness though.  anything can help from what i can see
[22:21] <RoyK> are you administrating the server yourself?
[22:21] <clayd> yes
[22:21] <RoyK> how many VMs? how much memory?
[22:22] <JanC> I think clayd means he has a virtual server
[22:22] <clayd> oh the server is on the Rackspace system.  I am not admin on that side of things.  I only have admin on the VM
[22:23] <_Techie_> if it is possible, convert the wordpress site to static pages nad host it that way rather than using a modular setup
[22:23] <_Techie_> that should make things run faster
[22:24] <JanC> it should run fine in a VM with 512 MiB, unless it has a huge number of visitors
[22:24] <RoyK> _Techie_: I think you should ask the #wordpress people about that, but afaik, no, I don't think that's possible
[22:24] <Pici> There are worpdress plugins that will do that.
[22:25] <clayd> actually you can.  there is a plug in for it that does it for you but i am not a huge fan of it for everything.  You can still set up completely static pages.
[22:26] <JanC> if the site doesn't have a lot of traffic it might help to limit the number of apache child processes, and/or recycle them more often
[22:26] <clayd> also a big factor to the load is the requirments and all the massive content (images and such)
[23:06] <IdleOne> _Techie_: not cool.
[23:21] <_Techie_> IdleOne, is there any particular reason i havent been banned from here, being that its the only channel where nobody has complained, ive had people complain over in #xubuntu where its far more dead tahn it is here
[23:21] <clayd> made off topic comments :)
[23:22] <_Techie_> clayd, the ban is about my away nick
[23:23] <_Techie_> which i use because not all clients show different colours on nicks in the userlist
[23:23] <_Techie_> the freenode qwebirc client being included in the group of clients that dont
[23:24] <_Techie_> and apparantly one line for when i leave and one line for when i join is considered a spammy away
[23:25] <_Techie_> wow, thats spam... that deserves a ban
[23:28] <_Techie_> IdleOne, dont ignore me, i know your there
[23:28] <IdleOne> _Techie_: channel ops here are free to ban you or not.
[23:29] <_Techie_> any channel ops preset?
[23:29] <IdleOne> it is up to them but normally the same rules apply to all Ubuntu channels
[23:29] <_Techie_> present*
[23:29] <IdleOne> Also, don't speak to me like I owe you anything.
[23:31] <IdleOne> I have been very polite and tried to help you out concerning the ban in #ubuntu, you chose to not resolve the ban and you chose to ban evade.
[23:31] <IdleOne> if you want to discuss it further you know where to join
[23:32] <_Techie_> i wish to speak with an op of #ubuntu-server to see whether they deem my away nicks to be of a neusance so i can decide if i wish to leav this channel as i did #xubuntu
[23:33] <clayd> is it common to have apache running 10 times on a server with no traffic?
[23:33] <_Techie_> yes
[23:33] <_Techie_> it can be very common
[23:33] <clayd> thanks
[23:55] <veovis1> In Ubuntu Server 10.04, I have a banner that tells me basic resource usage whenever I log in through SSH.  On one server, we requested an install of 10.04, but they installed 10.10 instead, and it doesn't have that.  What is that called so I can enable it again
[23:55] <veovis1> ?
[23:56] <_Techie_> its a MOTD, although its enabled somewhere els