[13:10] morning [13:16] Good morning! [13:23] hey do you guys know what phones w/o being rooted can do wifi tethering? [13:23] I know my N1 can, but that's it [13:25] DammitJim: There's a pretty big difference from carrier sanctioned wireless tethering, and rooted tethering. [13:25] The later is free and without restrictions. [13:25] I understand [13:26] The Droid Incredible can tether without root. [13:26] so, the answer is... no to phones w/o being rooted that can do wifi tethering, correct? [13:26] oh ok, let me check [13:26] I need to buy a couple of phones that do tethering out of the box... I'm not messing with rooting [13:26] I think, most all the phones running Android Froyo can tether. [13:27] DammitJim: Have you tried rooting a phone yet? On my Incredible it was dead simple. No futzing about at all. [13:27] * DammitJim searches for phones that come with froyo [13:27] I have, but these will be company phones [13:27] I'm not getting into that mess [13:27] Gotcha. That makes sense. [13:27] LOL [13:27] but like I bought 3 N1's and we are good with those [13:27] The Moto Droid can tether as well. [13:29] droid... not droid x? [13:29] I got the droid x and can't find it [13:33] That's through Sprint? [13:35] Oh, Verizon, right? [13:36] Should be an app called 3G Mobil Hotspot with Verizon. [14:03] I guess you have to pay for that [14:06] No idea. It was just there when I upgraded to Froyo. [15:00] do you guys know where to look up wifi statistics in linux? [15:06] man iwconfig [15:06] I believe that has statistics. [15:06] Yeah, look under the DISPLAY section of the man. [15:08] hhhmmmmm [15:08] I'm looking for crc errors and such [15:11] If you look at the bottom of the man page, there are other wireless application, such as iwspy, that may get you the information you seek. [15:13] thanks [15:27] dantalizing, did you get boxee on yoru android? [16:32] Good morning Michelle [16:32] is there a way to upgrade a specific package without installing all of the other available upgrades? [16:33] ahh i figured it out [18:27] Anyone have any ideas why \b would not bring up my buffers in vi? [18:29] maxolasersquad: is that a custom binding? [18:29] if you're using do :echo mapleader to make sure it is \ [18:29] I'm not that good with vi, but my coworker who is pretty good at it says that \b should open the buffer. [18:30] E121: Undefined variable: mapleader [18:30] E15: Invalid expression: mapleader [18:31] Wait, are you using vi or vim? [18:31] I don't even know if vi has a leader [18:31] vi [18:32] Doesn't vi, in ubuntu, run vim? [18:32] maxolasersquad: not unless you install vim [18:32] by default it comes with just vi because it is much smaller.. [18:32] in any case, you could bind \b to open buffers [18:33] you would do map \b [command] [18:33] Well, I'm running vi from the CLI, and it comes up as vim. [18:34] I think the leader defaults to \ when not set [18:34] So you'll have to map the command for buffers to open [18:34] you can do map b :buffers [18:35] in your .vimrc [21:44] Happy Thanksgiving all === excid is now known as excid3|home