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Kilosmorning superfly nuvolari and you other fellas too04:29
superflymorning Kilos04:34
Kilosthats better04:35
nuvolarimorning oom Kilos04:55
nuvolaribah, need to get to work04:55
Kiloshard werk seun04:56
Kilosmaar geniet dit04:56
superflyKilos: oom, did you see I've been doing a little more work on my blog?05:04
Kilosnope superfly been trying to stretch data. but will go look now quick05:16
KilosMaaz, superfly.blog05:16
MaazKilos: superfly.blog is http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za05:16
superflyno, not that one05:16
Kilosoh05:16
superflyKilos: my latest blog entry was "Yay! It works! Need I say more?"05:16
Kilos365?05:16
superflyja05:17
Kiloscode 36505:17
Kilosyou got link please05:17
Kilosi bit sore to hunt05:17
Kiloshad a mild attacking of heart yest05:18
superflyKilos: don't worry about it, like I said, all I said in my last blog post was, "Yay! It works! Need I say more?"05:18
Kilosok. what works??05:18
superflyKilos: selecting an image to display05:19
Kilosah05:19
Kilosi was there last week05:19
superflyyou click on the insert image button, and then the browse button, and then it shows a nice little file browser where you can select your file05:19
Kilosi must have it book marked somewhere05:19
Kilosgreat05:20
Kilosi hate the picasa add to blogspot05:20
superflythe next part is to get file uploading working05:20
superflywhich shouldn't be too difficult05:20
Kilosah05:20
Kilosforget playing with the snake and get 365 back on track05:21
Kilosi dunno if you told what kind even05:21
Kilosjust saw a bit with you and wedwo about corn snakes05:22
superflyja, he's a corn snake05:22
superflyvery relaxed05:22
Kiloswhere you gonna get corn for him05:22
Kiloskellogs05:23
Kilos?05:23
Kilosvery healthy and not fattening05:23
Kiloshehe05:23
superflyhaha05:23
superflyno, they eat mice05:23
Kilosnow you gotta keep mice too05:24
Kilosthey stink05:24
Kilosyou will spend your 365 time cleaning cages05:24
superflyno, I buy frozen mice from a pet store05:25
Kiloslol05:25
Kilosrofl05:25
Kilosthats a new one05:25
superflyKilos: if I had more than about 3 snakes, I'd think about breeding mice myself05:25
Kilossnakes eat frozen foods too05:25
superflybut it's not worth it for only 1 snake05:26
Kilosok05:26
Kilosif you like i will catch you a nice big rinkhalls05:28
Kilosrinkals05:28
Kilosdaai dint\05:28
Kilosgrrr05:28
Kilosdaai ding05:28
superflyKilos: no thanks, I'm good with just a corn snake for now05:29
superfly"rinkhals"05:29
Kilosja daai ding wat spoeg05:29
Kilosen eiers eet en skape en honde en hoenders dood byt05:30
Kiloslo oomkoos 05:34
oomkoosgood morning Kilos05:34
oomkooshow you doing today?05:34
Kilosis the oom good this morning05:34
Kilosim alive still ty05:35
oomkooswell it's getting closer to Friday so i'm starting to get better and better every hour :)05:35
Kiloslol great05:36
* Kilos likes calling someone oom05:36
nuvolariwhut? today is wednesday??? already?05:36
* nuvolari gooi 'n vloermoer05:36
Kilosyou too busy nuvolari 05:36
oomkooslol05:36
Kilosnuvolari,  kry n appie05:37
Kilosyou mustnt overdo it05:37
nuvolariKilos: die probleem is ek *is* die appie05:37
Kiloseish. been there done that05:38
nlsthznhi all06:36
maiatodayhi nlsthzn06:37
Kiloshi nlsthzn 06:37
maiatodayhi Kilos06:37
Kiloshi maiatoday 06:37
nlsthznKilos: maiatoday hiya :)06:38
Kiloslol06:38
Kilosi used to say hiys first but the today spoiled the effect06:39
Kiloshiya06:39
nlsthznwhat today spoiled it?06:41
Kilosthe today at the end of maiai06:42
Kiloseish06:42
Kilosmaia06:42
maiatodayhehe06:42
maiatodaynothing is spoiled, just a bit different06:43
nlsthzn:)06:43
Kilosok then hiystoday maiatoday 06:43
Kiloseish06:43
Kiloshiyatoday maiatoday 06:43
Kilosmy internal torrents are working too good tween head and hands06:44
Kiloswas told about apt-offline. looks like it might be better than aptoncd06:46
Kilosaptoncd still needs to get updates06:46
Kiloslast aptoncd hit me 400m06:47
nlsthznKilos: looking to build an offline stash of all applications so you can save your cap?06:48
Kilosyip. this lucid not too happy since i messed up with chown  and tumbles had to do a repair for me06:49
maiatodayJust a reminder for everybody: the Geeknic is on Sunday. I'll figure out how to set the topic, when I get a chance. We meet at the main gates at kirstenbosch at 10. People can mail me if they need more info.06:49
Kilosand i have the maverick cd here burning holes in everything06:49
nlsthznpity ubuntu doesn't have the same set of DVD/CD's like Debian with just about everything on it06:50
superflyit has a DVD which has a lot more packages, but yeah, it doesn't have debian's CD set06:50
nlsthznUbuntu has a DVD?06:51
Kilosyou can get ubuntu dvds but i dunno if they also want to do updates06:51
Kiloslol im too slow06:51
superflynlsthzn: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd06:54
superflyhttp://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/10.10/release/06:55
nlsthznah, additional language packs06:56
KilosVhata, whats news with you eina's06:59
Kiloss/you/your06:59
Kiloshad my first heart attack yesterday and the nitro pills near took top of head off07:01
superflyKilos: eating too much red meat again?07:01
superfly:-P07:01
superflyjust kidding07:01
Kiloslol07:01
nlsthznoO07:01
Kilosrofl07:02
Kilossuperfly, im O blood group. we supposed to eat lotsa red meat. methinks its from not enough07:03
superflyKilos: yes, but red meat contains the most cholestrol, and it's cholestrol causes heart attacks07:04
superflycoupled with lots of salt07:04
Kiloseish07:04
Kiloseat lotsa salt to stop cramps07:04
Kiloswill be lost if there no salt in the happy hunting grounds07:05
Kilosmay be better to cyber braai and drink cyber coffee07:09
* nlsthzn thinks less cyber salt for Kilos 07:10
Kiloslol07:10
Kilosnlsthzn, whats the food like there07:12
Kilosboet complains in saudi07:12
nlsthznpretty good... can find most of the stuff you would find in SA (some shops here with lots of SA products)... so many expats you have lots of different food types to choose from (big american fast food influence in the big cities)07:15
Kilosah07:15
maiatodaywhat was the script one could run to make an iso from a mirror of the repos?09:14
maiatodayno worries, found it09:17
Kiloshee hee i am sure there must be someone from home affairs that lurks here and hears me winging11:12
Kilosmy unabridged birth certificate that was supposed to take from 6 to 8 weeks is available11:13
Kilosand im sure its less than 2 weeks11:13
Kilos\o/11:13
superflyeish, I must still phone them about zak_attack's11:19
superflybeen so busy :-(11:20
Kilosthey sent you an sms superfly 11:20
Kilossend11:20
superflyKilos: ja, I know... I made a mistake on the form, so I need to get that fix11:30
superfly*fixed11:30
Kiloseish11:32
Kilosthe fly doesnt make mistakes11:33
Kilosah it has to be done with a pen11:33
Kiloshehe11:33
corrie206superfly: what mistake? my dad registered me under the wrong name. so I had to have a name change done when I was 5weeks old or something.11:36
Kiloshi corrie206 11:36
corrie206hey Kilos you well?11:38
Kilosyes ty corrie206 and you?11:38
corrie206Kilos: busy busy11:39
corrie206gettting towards end of the year, so everyone, wants everything yesterday11:39
Kiloseish11:40
superflycorrie206: we need his unabridged birth certificate, and I swapped 2 digits in zak_attack's id number by mistake11:45
superflyso it's fine, no problem with his birth cert11:45
superflyI just need to phone in and give them the correct ID number11:46
corrie206superfly: ah ok11:47
Kiloslol11:48
Kiloscorrie206, did your dad register you as corrie20511:48
superflyhahaha11:48
corrie206bwhahaha!11:49
corrie206noooo11:49
Kilossorry. couldnt keep that in11:49
corrie206skerp11:50
maiatodayhehe like stitch in lilo and stitch= experiment20611:50
Kiloscorrie was an experiment that turned out larger than planned11:51
corrie206hahaha11:51
corrie206ok, thats putting some smiles on my face11:51
corrie206I was manufactured in a secrect CIA lab, build for World Domination....my only weakness was pancakes.11:52
Kiloshee hee hee11:52
maiatodayoh no now I wish I had some pancakes to eat11:53
* Kilos thinks we all have that weakness11:53
corrie206maiatoday: had the pancake-itch all bloody day11:53
Kilosmust be the climate11:53
Tonberrypancakes!!!!11:53
Kilossee11:54
Kilosits a virulent virus11:54
corrie206see? its a epidemic!11:54
Kiloslol11:54
maiatodayintercontinental pan-demic11:55
Kilosbut such a lekker one11:56
superflygolly, corrie206, now you're infecting me!11:58
corrie206I'll need to shop this afternoon, think some chicken livers.11:59
Kilosyum11:59
superflyok, not hungry any more... liver, ugh12:00
maiatodayag cinnamon and sugar is good enough for me, kameelsuiker12:00
Kilosyip12:00
maiatodayand maybe a drop of lemon juice12:01
confluencyFortunately I grew to like liver spread before I knew it was made from liver. :D12:04
Kilosha ha12:04
confluencyI don't like liver chunks, though.12:04
Kilosme tries something i think is new12:11
Kiloscurried scrambled eggs12:11
Kiloscurry needs frying and cooking a while so we frying onions with the curry and some garlic12:13
corrie206maiatoday: thats pudding12:14
Kilosthen when done will do the eggs in it12:14
sakhiI have an FTP server with .docx documents and when I download the files with Firefox I am able to read them but when I download using IE I get them as .zip and I cannot read the documents.12:27
superflysakhi: I only have one question: Why are you using IE? :-P12:28
sakhiother users refuse to use firefox...I have to make them happy too.12:29
Kilosgoogle how to open .docx files with windows12:47
Kiloseish12:47
KilosMaaz, google how to open .docx files with windows12:47
MaazKilos: "Ways to open Office .docx documents" http://www.ghacks.net/2007/12/10/ways-to-open-office-docx-documents/ :: "Download details: Microsoft Office Compatibility Pack for Word ..." http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=941b3470-3ae9-4aee-8f43-c6bb74cd1466 :: "I have windows 7 but I cannot open .docx documents" http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7files/thread/43ac5838-8243-495d-8471-628fc9d65d69 :: "How12:47
Kilosgood luck sakhi 12:47
Kiloswhen did we get a log bot on here?12:49
superflysakhi: also, you're asking a bunch of linux users a windows question12:49
Kiloswheres sakhi  now12:53
Kilossakhi, ^^^ others have had the same prob. maybe theres an answer in above links12:53
Tonberrysound more like a broken ftp client in IE than a problem with .docx12:56
Tonberry .docx is the default file format for ms office 2007 and probably onwards12:58
Kilosah maybe they using office 200313:00
TonberryI have an FTP server with .docx documents and when I download the files with Firefox I am able to read them but when I download using IE I get them as .zip and I cannot read the documents.13:01
Kilosdoes ubuntu open .docx files?13:01
Tonberrysounds like the tests were done on the same pc13:01
Tonberryso doubtful13:01
Tonberryi think open office can13:01
Kilosif so he can advise them to use openoffice13:02
Kilosmethinks you can get it on windows too?13:02
Tonberryyes but i doubt the version of office is the problem here13:03
confluencysakhi: what do you mean, you get them as .zip?  They're called something.zip, or they're called something.docx but they're zip files?  What happens if you unzip them?13:03
Tonberryare non .docx files also downloaded as .zip?13:05
superflyaren't docx files zipped like odt files?13:06
superflyin that case, no wonder IE is downloading them as zip files, they are zip files13:06
superflyit's just that IE is renaming the file to .zip13:06
Tonberryseems that they are13:07
Tonberrythen i stand by broken/stupid ftp client13:07
confluencyhttps://encrypted.google.com/search?q=docx+zip13:10
confluencysakhi: what FTP server?13:12
confluencySomehow IE is screwing up the mimetype.  I don't know how IE determines the mimetype of files downloaded through FTP.13:13
confluencysakhi: it probably guesses, or uses some kind of file association setting.  I suspect it has to be fixed on the user side.13:25
confluencyIn the meantime, your users should be able to save the files and rename them.13:25
confluencyIE --13:25
confluencyUnfortunately all the related problems I've found refer to files downloaded through HTTP, and you can set a mimetype on the server to fix that.  As far as I know, FTP doesn't do server-side mimetypes.13:26
sakhihi sorry... was with the client. I'm using vsftp.13:36
sakhiIE -- you right.13:37
sakhiFF ++13:38
nlsthznhi all17:24
superflyevening nlsthzn17:25
nlsthznsuperfly: how is it going?17:27
nlsthznso, who else saw the thread on the Ubuntu forum about the possibilty of Ubuntu becoming a rolling release?18:38
* drubin 18:39
nlsthznany thoughts? I can't see it happening...18:40
drubinI see it breaking some things and others being better18:43
nlsthznthere are pro's and con's... not sure the pro's outweight the cons tough...18:43
inetprogood evening21:12
nlsthzninetpro: hello21:13
inetpronlsthzn: howzit21:13
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. catcha again morrow time21:14
inetproKilos: heh21:14
inetprojy moeg?21:14
inetprogone21:15
inetproprobably afraid that I will keep him up longer :-)21:15
nlsthznall good...21:16
nlsthznand in ZA land?21:16
inetprohow do I work out the power capacity needed to run a few computers, photostat machines and other office space basics?21:16
* inetpro looking into acquiring a small generator for the school21:17
nlsthznI have heard of people using some sort of calculator to work out the max requirements etc. but haven't done it myself and not sure where to get something like that...21:18
inetproeish, everyone else sleeping already?21:22
inetpronlsthzn: this place is way to quiet these days21:22
inetprotime to shake things up again :-)21:23
nlsthznTell me how and I am in :)21:27
drubininetpro: School still having power outs?21:28
inetprodrubin: yep, and it's the time of year when big stress is painted on everyones faces21:29
nlsthznbut schools about done... why not let everyone go home already21:30
inetpronlsthzn: that's one of the good points raised by some members21:30
inetprofact is that if you keep postponing the issue it will never be acquired21:31
nlsthznwell, my daughter was only going to come and visit from the 11th due to school closing the 10th, but they heard now from the 1st nothing happining at school so she coming almost two weeks EARLY!!! so I am chuffed21:32
inetprothe other fact is that a power failure is very disruptive21:32
inetproespecially when teachers are busy marking stuffs and using spreadsheets to consolidate...21:34
nlsthznall teachers should get laptops with extra long life batteries (i am sure they will aprove)21:35
inetpronlsthzn: schools don't have a lot of money to work with21:41
nlsthznI know... wife is a (ex) teacher form a small school in Mpumalanga... 21:41
inetpronlsthzn: you should include the nick of the user that you're talking with in your posting21:42
inetprothat way I will get a ping alert when you talk to me21:43
inetprowhile I'm busy on something else21:43
nlsthzninetpro: ok... sorry... (almost did it again) :D21:44
inetpronlsthzn: you do know about tab completion?21:45
nlsthzninetpro: yup, first thing I learnt (and it was from this channel)21:46
inetpronlsthzn: ahh, just thought I'll point it out21:46
* inetpro is trying to multitask even though it's not possible to do that21:47
nlsthzninetpro: Cause your a guy... will stop bugging you then :p21:47
inetpronlsthzn: hehe :-)21:48
inetpronlsthzn: you're welcome to bug me21:49
inetprowould have logged off if I didn't want to be disturbed21:50
drubinfp22:00
nlsthzndrubin: fp?22:01
wedwo-inetpro, look at the rating of the appliance (computer, printer w/e), add them all up and the generator must be able to produce about 500 to 1000 wats more than the total22:01
inetprowedwo-: great, that helps. Thanks22:02
wedwo-inetpro, the extra wattage requirements are for resistance (in the wiring circuits) and startup surge from appliances22:02
wedwo-inetpro, if the computer case doesen't have the wattage printed there you can search the web for specs and find the wattage of the PSU (power supply unit).22:03
nlsthznwedwo-: but even if I have a 850w psu does it mean it will pull that much (or it has the potential to pull that much)?22:05
wedwo-inetpro, it has the potential22:05
wedwo-nlsthzn, sorry, ^^ was for you22:07
nlsthznwedwo-: np, just asking... seeing as it is for a school I doubt any of them will have any PSU that are to much over the limit needed for the machine (inlike a lot of gaming rigs out there)22:08
wedwo-nlsthzn, I believe, being a school, that the greatest potential resistance will be from red tape22:12
inetprowedwo-: red tape?22:18
inetproeish, look at the time22:19
* inetpro needs sleep22:19
inetprobye22:19
nlsthznwedwo-: always paparwork22:21
nlsthzn*paperwork22:21
wedwo-inetpro, hehe red tape = rompslomp22:29
drubinnlsthzn: http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/11/ubuntu-is-not-moving-to-rolling-release.html 23:18
drubinMaaz: tell tonberry http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2010/11/ubuntu-is-not-moving-to-rolling-release.html23:18
Maazdrubin: Yessir23:18
nlsthzndrubin: Thanks, already saw and even posted the link on the forum thread :)23:53

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